The structure of the scene shows the tremendous pressure he was under. At the beginning of the movie it states that the King reigns over a quarter of the world's people. That fact got lost because of the intimacy of the film. But at the end we are reminded of it. This scene conveys all his subjects in some fashion. First is his wife. She is seen anxiously awaiting him to start, knowing the far reaching implications of his success or failure. Then come the dignitaries in the palace, followed by a scan of the equipment that transmitted the speech to the various countries of the kingdom. (25% of the entire planet!) We see the average Englishman at the local pub, the radio workers, Logue's wife and children, factory workers, maids and butlers, rich men in a gentleman's club, his brother who abdicated, the gathered crowd outside the palace, his mother who's obviously impressed, then English soldiers who will do the fighting, and back to the dignitaries. Finally, we again see his wife who now knows he's made it through. Every class is represented, high and low, royal and commoner, young and old; the rich, the middle class, and the poor; foreign and domestic. He's talking to them all. At 4:28 we see that even Logue briefly sheds his role as teacher and listens solemnly as a subject of the realm. Having lived through the first world war he knows what's coming. The King's audience was so vast it's hard to imagine.
That's what I would do if I cocked up using my words for a podcast speech or a presentation speech. Prior to seeing Darkest Hour which is about Churchill, I never really knew George had that much of a stuttering problem to deal with.
It's five minutes of a guy talking into a microphone. And yet it's one of the most intense edge-of-my-seat movies scenes I've ever seen. How is this more exciting than any number of battles and fights and explosions? Because by the time it happens you are fully invested in the characters!
Beethoven's 7th Symphony was used in so many Hollywood productions. For the most part I hated it, because they didn't represent the whole triumphant sadness and profound alienation, that Beethoven's music expresses. But in this movie, I absolutely loved it. The actors, the circumstances, the story the cinematography.. Brilliant. Thank you.
I'm not very educated when it comes to classical music (sure I know several Beethoven works, but not this one, I don't know why), and while watching the movie, I focused on the speech and the visual parts more. Then many years later I heard this symphony on radio and I was like "Omg! It's that song! It was in a very strong scene in the end of a movie, some movie about war!" - that was all I recalled first. It took me one more year to finally have the lightbulb turn on during a Beethoven concert seen on TV, and then I was like "OMG! It was in the King's Speech!!". Sorry if this story sounded dumb as hell, but I almost started to cry when I finally found this scene and put the pieces together.
In this grave hour, perhaps the most fateful in our history I send to every household of my peoples both at home and overseas this message. Spoken with the same depth of feeling for each one of you as if I were able to cross your threshold and speak to you myself. For the second time in the lives of most of us we are at war. Over and over again we have tried to find a peaceful way out of the differences between ourselves and those who are now our enemies, but it has been in vain. We have been forced into a conflict for we are called to meet the challenge of a principle which if it were to prevail would be fatal to any civilized order in the world. Such a principle stripped of all disguise is surely the mere primitive doctrine that might is right. For the sake of all that we ourselves hold dear it is unthinkable that we should refuse to meet the challenge. It is to this high purpose that I now call my people at home and my peoples across the seas who will make our cause their own. I ask them to stand calm and firm and united in this time of trial. The task will be hard. There may be dark days ahead and war can no longer be confined to the battlefield. But we can only do the right as we see the right and reverently commit our cause to God. If one and all we keep resolutely faithful to it then, with God's help, we shall prevail.
I would suggest looking at George VI in footage, and you will not see anything that remotely looks like Colin Firth. There is NO resemblance whatsoever. The director obviously didn't even try to get Firth's hair right, much less his voice.
4:32 I just love that moment from Logue. For the first time, he wasn't supporting Bertie as a therapist but had a moment as a citizen in the UK to take in not only Bertie's inspirational words but his own achievement to help him.
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 Seriously. The completely unnecessary and petty points that people make on RUclips is ridiculous. I was only talking from a character perspective about Logue's emotion while listening to him, not making it an immigration debate...
Yes! I noticed that too! He knew Bertie found his rhythm..."his voice" and began to back off. Listening to the speech rather than trying to coach him. So good!
He could've won the Oscar anyway without this scene, but this...just made it a landslide. Unreal performance. Colin Firth is just a fine fine actor overall and in this movie he really shined.
This scene still brings me to tears. But tears of triumph. I too stutter and although not as severely as he I know the feeling of being powerless to your own body. With help from an amazing man he was able to overcome his disability and lead. Definitely a great movie and worth watching over and over again.
I have a friend who is a stutter. Yes he struggled a lot since his childhood. And yet we both have our differences in our looks, tastes. But not our way of speech. Everyone is special and my friend is my my friend whomever he is.
I've stammered all my life, or at least since I was very young (I have vague memories from when I was 3-4 and I don't think I stammered then). I love this film because it shows that stammerers really can talk. I've literally had people assume I'm unintelligent or slow because sometimes it can take me a while to get through a sentence. This film really brought awareness to the condition and showed how it affects people from all walks of life. The King's Speech was the first blockbuster movie I ever saw where the protagonist had a stammer, and I really identified with that scene at Wembley because it reminded me of having to read aloud in class at school and simply not being able to do it. I've now learned to live with it without it bothering me and now just see it (somewhat ironically) as a conversation topic. However there are so many people who struggle with it, are bullied for it and aren't able to manage it effectively who often suffer in silence, literally. The King's Speech as a movie is a rallying cry to people who stammer and for that reason I couldn't love it more.
Theocook1 i totally understand ur feeling..im a stammerer too myself..i did most of what was shown in this movie before i even watchd it..having to watch it in a movie, i feel proud of myself cz i found myself out..when i practice this infront my friends, they laughed at me n they said 'a stupid way of overcoming stammer, what is so hard abt talk..just talk n dun stammer' if only it was that easy..i do stammer sometime every here n then but i will fall back to the basics that i learn..the most important thing is confidence, u have that u can have anything..i 1st started not caring what other people will think what i say n how i said it..after a year of shitless words i said, i start to think before i talk..n now i dun get stammer very often, only when asked difficult questions
can i ask you a question? I always get annoyed when others try to complete the sentences of stammerers. Because if i we re a stammerer i wouldnt want it. It would make me feel so little. When talking to someone who stammers do you let them 'struggle' or is that a bad thing? See i know you aren't stupid you just take a while longer to speak sentences, sometimes, and i couldn't care less.
Honestly, finishing a stammerer's sentence for them is probably the least helpful thing you could do. All but the very worst stammerers will get through the sentence eventually and particularly if someone is actively trying to get over it they will want to finish the sentence themselves. Once I was playing Brutus in a school production of Julius Caesar, and although once I knew the lines by heart I didn't stammer over them, whilst I was still learning them I stammered terribly trying to say them. The teacher in charge was very understanding but several of the other actors kept finishing my lines for me and it made me feel awful.
This scene gives me chills. At 3:52, his mother couldn't decide whether to grimace at the gravity of the announcement, or smile with pride at her son's timely redemption as King. No accident that it was marked by the climax of the 2nd movement in Beethoven's 7th, methinks. Well-done.
My favorite part is seeing his mother's face as she takes in his perfect speech. She was so distant, not just physically but emotionally, yet she knows how hard this must be for her son. And the music that rises as it zooms in on her face - she looks proud. Wonderful movie!
Holywood might be in the lead in terms of film quantity and maybe quality but when it comes to actors, man do you guys not let up. What the hell do you teach them in drama school to make so many of them so good.
George VI was a remarkable man. Thrust into a role he was never expected to take, he overcame immense obstacles and personal challenge to become one of the most beloved and honored monarchs in British history. Whereas Winston Churchill embodied the fierce, proud fighting spirit of the British people and the peoples of the Empire drew inspiration from that, they likewise drew inspiration from the quiet, rock steady constancy of their King who refused to back down in the face of Nazi aggression. This movie was a beautiful testament to his life and one of the most critical periods of his reign.
There are some actors who become their characters with their masterful performances. You'd think Helen Mirren was Queen Elizabeth, Daniel Day-Lewis was Lincoln, and Colin Furth was King George. What greatness.
It's Helena Bonham Carter in this scene but the actress Helen Mirren is known for playing Queen Elizabeth II in the television serial Elizabeth I, for Channel 4.
I don't stutter, but I have social anxiety, and it can give the same symptoms. This is so relatable I actually get a physical reaction watching it, the amount of courage on display here...wow! To be the King of a people faced with total oblivion, knowing you can barely utter a sentence without making everyone embarrassed, knowing everyone is now looking to you for guidance, knowing the very spirit of your nation hinges on your inspirational words, and then you step up and you do this! The courage demonstrated here rivals that of any battlefield if you ask me!
This film is among my top 100....of all time. How ironic that during his speech the most beautiful 2nd movement of Beethoven's 7th is played in the background. Afterward the allegretto movement from Ludwig's "Emperor's Concerto" is played. What a fabulous cast and Tom Hooper is among THE best. This is one of those films that brings me to tears, as it addresses the human condition in a most sensitive way.
@ sattfield...Ah... the irony? Ludwig composed this as a tribute to the soldiers during the Napoleonic war. He believed Bonaparte would be the great liberator...instead, he watched him become a dictator and endured personally, the horrors, first hand. Beethoven became so angry, he wanted to destroy the Emperor Concerto. I thank God he did not do so. It is still a magnificent work of art, putting aside politics. Please forgive my English. Vive les ARTS!
Thank you! Genuinely fascinating, and your English is perfect, don't worry. I was looking up this track to add to what I think are the most beautiful pieces of music ever written. My other choices (because you took the time to explain to me) were: The Fountain OST (Clint Mansell) - Death Is The Road To Awe Isis - Weight Mogwai - I'm Jim Morrison, I'm Dead Interstellar OST (Hans ZImmer) - No Time For Caution Arcade Fire - Intervention Radiohead - Weird FIshes / Arpeggi Underworld - Jumbo Thanks again!
Okay, time for some historical trivia: 1. George's nickname really was "Bertie", but only his family ever called him that. While he and Lionel were close friends, Logue always used proper decorum when speaking to him--he was NEVER casual. 2. The treatment was an arduous process that lasted over a decade, maybe two. 3. The false concept that smoking helps you speak better was preached by doctors in those days, sadly. It's actually what led to George's death: he smoked like a chimney until he died. 4. George was a strong supporter of Chamberlain's appeasement policy, and he didn't care much for Churchill on a personal level or a political one. It was only after the war that he began to regard Churchill in a more positive manner.
To expand on 2 and 4. After he bombed a speech in 1925, the future King sought the help of Lionel in 1926 and by 1927 Albert was confident and could get through a speech with little to no missteps. But they continued to work together through the 30's and 40's to keep him sharp. Also I read that Churchill was put into this movie because he is probably the most recognizable figure in UK political history especially to those outside the UK.
A funny thing about No, 4 tell me who said this? "Appeasement through fear and weakness and alike both futile and fatal, appeasement through strength is both magumass and nobel. Then Chamberlain was very more vocal against Hitler after and recent research was it was all for buying time... I'd do that being a ruthless bastard.
The "piece of paper" brought back from Berlin probably bought us some time to rearm. Germany had been arming itself for years before that and this activity had been swept under the carpet. We really weren't ready for war so the first year of it (from 1939) was a great piece of luck. The real ordeal started around 1940, with us being bombed etc. The blitz was dreadful for ordinary working class people. It was us that lived close to the targets - East End of London surrounding the Docks. The Windsor family were suspicious of Winston Churchill. He was a grandson of the 7th Duke of Marlborough and part of the Aristocracy, in turn natural decendants of the Barons who made King John sign the Magna Carta, thus tempering the power of an absolute monarch. Had we had an opportunity to elect a President and had Churchill stood - he would have gotten elected such was his popularity. He was grudgingly given what amounted to a State funeral in 1965 - something of an anathema to ruling monarchs. It is said that when one of the heads of the British Military said to the King, "Your Majesty, I thought Churchill was after my job" the King was rumoured to have retorted, "Really, I thought he was after mine!" Or words to that effect. We were saved from the Nazi jackboot by the bravery and hard work of millions of people here in GB and throughout the Commonwealth and our allies in Europe. I often listen to General de Gaulle's speech to rally the French troops. It's a tearjerker and a half
It's pretty awesome that he's able to use his stammering to enhance the drama of his speech. It's always a gift to be able to turn a disadvantage into an advantage.
Amazing. A man who couldn't read a paragraph to an ordinary bloke one morning. Would go on to be a King who would rally a nation, an Empire and even the world, to fight against the greatest threat to freedom the world has ever known. God Save the King. Rule Britannia.
No, the real confusion is that Great Britain only fought the United States once, and that was long before the US became the greatest threat to freedom the world has ever known.
I don't know when I have ever heard music in the background so perfectly married to the action in the scene itself... ...and the idea that it was composed as "absolute music," with no particular "programme" in mind, almost 200 years before the production of this film, makes the perfection of its use here all the more astonishing.
And so many years lather...the "For we are called to meet the challenge of a principle which, if it were to prevail, would be fatal to any civilized order in the world. Such a principle, stripped of all disguise, is surely the mere primitive doctrine that "might is right". For Ukraine we say an to ALL EUROPE: "But we can only do the right as we see the right, and reverently commit our cause to God. If one and all we keep resolutely faithful to it, then, with God's help, we shall prevail". THANK YOU YOUR MAJESTY KING GEORGE THE VI for these words that light up our path in 2022!!!
+Desirée Rodríguez Well for King George VI, he was intimidated by his father (King George V) and made him nervous and seemed like a confidence issue with him. The King's Speech is a great movie covering his battle with his stammer.
+Desirée Rodríguez People stammer because of their breathing pattern is not flowing in proper manner as compared to people who speak fluently..People stammer more when they are in stress or nervousness in their mind.
Whilst it's true this is a great Hollywood piece this I found was an incredible film, a story of struggle and triumph- being a historian this scene makes me feel simply awed at what King George VI had to overcome as a person and as a leader of sorts- having a disability of sorts myself I find it brilliant that there are films such as this to show that many can succeed despite their many doubts
This shows Britain for what it really is. In the face of adversity, we stand strong. We are a proud nation! We will never waiver, we will never give in and we will prevail! We are a Great Britain!
Silly Slim 1)America as a country started out as English colonies 2) The only reason America became the world leading super power is because the British had been bled dry by two subsequent world wars, two wars that paved the way for the American industrial complex to become the powerhouse it did. 3)With the British bled dry, someone also had to step in and take of the pax Britannica to police and guard the sea lanes, which America did so. This led to America becoming the world police they are today, which makes the American armed forces the strongest armed forces in the world right now. So you can thank the good English people for letting America become great.
The first time I saw this scene, I heard the first note at 0:02 and immediately realized it was Beethovens 7th symphony, I had shivers going through my entire body which remaind for the entire speach. And I still get them today.
Half a rasher tierney Mental for wanting sovereignty? Is it mental to not want to be governed by the fourth reich? The EU is showing it's true colours in the face of our request to leave, they have made three counties vote twice on their independence because they didn't like the outcome. Am I mad because I want our laws to come from our parliament, not some political union which has repeatedly shown it's utter disregard for democracy? Because I want my nation to decide who it lets in? We are the 5th biggest economy in the world and you think we're going to crumble to nothing because we leave a union which offers tax deals?
A small island with only a relatively small channel separating them from their enemy. Sheer willpower kept those isles safe. God bless you, you brits! From America
It's interesting because Logue starts to see Bertie transform from one of his students to a strong and noble king as the speech progressed. Terrific performances from both Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush!
Robert Lee Churchills speech was by far the best and eeriest though. Saying that Britain shall fight till the end and alone if necessary. Which it kinda did for some years.
My grandmother is English. My American grandpa married a women he met there during the war. The bond between our two countries is really amazing if you think about our history.
There is a important lesson to be learnt from this movie: if you have fear inside of you that prevents you from fullfilling your potential, you better confront it head on before it manages to ruin your life. This is very powerfull stuff.
I love the acting/directing choice they make there, as the speech starts to talk directly about war, of having Lionel stop his "conducting" and just listen. Not only is he confident of Bertie's ability to land the speech without further assistance... Lionel also knows the toll of war, having treated Australian veterans for shell shock-induced speech impediments.
I also have a stuttering problem and this film is really inspirational to me, what this king did, was beyond courageous and says to me that just because someone has a stuttering problems, that they dont have to amount to nothing
love this film. watch it whenever it comes on T.V. even brings a lump to my throat thinking about what the Man went through in real life trying to be a King by default and then you throw a world war on his lap.of course this film is for intelligent people who don't need car chases, cops (yawn) endless explosions etc..this is just pure history with great acting. a lot of popcorn eating kids at the cinema wouldn't get it, but each to their own. i get it..everytime.
@@electronwave4551 As a child, my grandfather watched his father march away to fight the First World War. He himself fought in the Second, enduring the loss of a beloved younger brother and brother in law to war, as well as a sister back home to illness. Whatever he saw in that war was so horrific, he would never talk about it. My grandmother cared for two children and a handful of elderly relatives through the Blitz, not knowing from moment to moment whether her husband was alive or not - she didn't see him for years. And yes, on top of all that, the Depression. And yet I never remember either of them complaining, though they'd have been more than justified. Their strength, and this scene, moves me to tears.
@@Silver_Owl Yeah, they were a tough times for the greatest generation. Someone once remarked that the young men returned from the second world war looking far older than their years. In the mid-1980's I was on a bus tour and was on friendly terms with a gent who served in WWII. We were walking through a Japanese garden in Townsville Australia and after a while he said "Let's get the hell out of here!" He thought he might have said something politically incorrect, but I let him know I understood. A little later I was in the middle of outback Queensland on a cattle property after landing on a dirt airstrip in the middle of no where and having a chat to the station owner's wife, who asked me to excuse her husband who was an ex-RAAF and who said nothing; but you could observe that the sight of the small plane brought back a lot of silent memories, or as they say, the 10 thousand mile stare. Same year, in Perth at a museum is a Lancaster bomber, and one poor guy just wandered around inside the building all day whenever his mates had their weekly get together, and never spoke to the public. In 2014, I was arranging to speak to a rear gunner of a Lancaster who was near his time, but he got the wrong idea that I would publish his recollections, and cancelled. He passed away a few months later. Actor John Mills captured that indomitable British spirit and the cost war imposes, and the sheer lunacy of it all, in "Ice Cold in Alex". On a lighter note, one guy drove the government roadwork utility vehicle in the '70s and '80s like the Spitfires of his youth, and no one would willingly sit in the passenger seat for fear of their life. My old man had to take that seat one day, and said you had to hold onto the sides of the car or else be thrown out the open windows on corners. The same guy used to do pranks on other drivers. Not recommended! :)
@@electronwave4551 Thanks, those are great stories! That's what gets me, so many people had a story, and sometimes you could know them for ages before they'd even mention it. Like the teacher I once had, who casually mentioned one day that he'd never had the chance to meet his grandparents, uncles etc. His parents were German Jews who'd emigrated in the mid 30s. They'd been the only survivors from both families. And another teacher who mentioned after years of knowing her that she occasionally still had nightmares of being buried in rubble....she'd lost everyone but her father. They went through a lot. But thanks for the lighter note too, I laughed at the Hell on Wheels ex Spitfire guy!
@@Silver_Owl I might add something ... (hopefully others reading this will obey the road rules please) ... Vehicles were dutifully waiting for the lights to change, and perhaps a little inattentive. "Watch this, Paul!" says the ex-Spit. He bolts into the intersection and a number of other vehicles in adjacent lanes commence to do the same, without noticing the traffic lights are still red. The ex-Spit promptly stops and reverses back out of the intersection as the lane is empty behind him. Others are not so fortunate, as when they notice the red light and stop, they can't reverse as other traffic has followed behind them in their lanes, leaving them stranded in the middle of the intersection. Dad said the ex-Spit just laughed his head off! I can only guess there was no traffic on the crossing lanes! It was common knowledge anyone unlucky enough to have been in the passenger seat lacked color in their face stepping out of the vehicle. It was great to chat! Cheers!
sublime scene. The greatest victory was Bertie's fight against his stammering. He also rise his self steem as king. He understood in the moment that he is the king's the empires needs. Awesome! It chills my spine everytime I see this.
At 5:00, Churchill (who had a tongue-tied speech defect) gives his verdict to the Prime Minister -- "Perfect!" -- then leans forward and glances in the direction of the Archbishop as if to say, 'You still want to make something of it?' These little background scenes made a great movie greater.
Logue's reward came in 1944 when George VI appointed him a a Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (CVO), elevating him from Member of the Order. He died in London in 1953 at the age of 73.
My favourite King of England, became the King when he didn't want to and had a stutter but had to give out speeches for the war, and still managed which made him inspirational.
the ironic thing is that his pauses to control his stutter gave his speech more gravity and weight.
Lionel Logue: Pauses are fine, it shows solemnity
King George VI: Then I'm the solemnest king in the world!
Love that line, haha
He also did it to make sure the listeners knew it was really him speaking.
The structure of the scene shows the tremendous pressure he was under. At the beginning of the movie it states that the King reigns over a quarter of the world's people. That fact got lost because of the intimacy of the film. But at the end we are reminded of it. This scene conveys all his subjects in some fashion. First is his wife. She is seen anxiously awaiting him to start, knowing the far reaching implications of his success or failure. Then come the dignitaries in the palace, followed by a scan of the equipment that transmitted the speech to the various countries of the kingdom. (25% of the entire planet!) We see the average Englishman at the local pub, the radio workers, Logue's wife and children, factory workers, maids and butlers, rich men in a gentleman's club, his brother who abdicated, the gathered crowd outside the palace, his mother who's obviously impressed, then English soldiers who will do the fighting, and back to the dignitaries. Finally, we again see his wife who now knows he's made it through. Every class is represented, high and low, royal and commoner, young and old; the rich, the middle class, and the poor; foreign and domestic. He's talking to them all. At 4:28 we see that even Logue briefly sheds his role as teacher and listens solemnly as a subject of the realm. Having lived through the first world war he knows what's coming.
The King's audience was so vast it's hard to imagine.
That's what I would do if I cocked up using my words for a podcast speech or a presentation speech. Prior to seeing Darkest Hour which is about Churchill, I never really knew George had that much of a stuttering problem to deal with.
I stutter too. My speech therapy programme teaches breathing and pausing. It seems to work.
This film brought Queen Elizabeth the second too tears while she watched. The director said it was the greatest review and comment he ever had.
Oh, how beautiful She really loved her father and he, her.
God save the Queen🇬🇧
She and Margaret always described him as being a loving and devoted father, and it was played out well in the movie.
@@snowleopard3470 You disappoint history, and the world. Well done in your grand failure.
@@snowleopard3470 fuck off mate
It's five minutes of a guy talking into a microphone. And yet it's one of the most intense edge-of-my-seat movies scenes I've ever seen. How is this more exciting than any number of battles and fights and explosions? Because by the time it happens you are fully invested in the characters!
yeah. for shure
Exactly. We have to be invested in the characters in one way or another; otherwise, there's no movie, novel, play.
this is due to the properly built dramaturgy
Some of the finest actors Britain has to offer.
***** Forgive me :)
feioxx he's Australian actually
1142-EAT-MY-ASS he's actually Australian
Australia is technically part of the Empire still.
True, an the queen is head of state - an who's in this movie !
Beethoven's 7th Symphony was used in so many Hollywood productions. For the most part I hated it, because they didn't represent the whole triumphant sadness and profound alienation, that Beethoven's music expresses. But in this movie, I absolutely loved it. The actors, the circumstances, the story the cinematography.. Brilliant. Thank you.
Manol Momchilov well said
It was also used in the actual speech itself when it was originally broadcasted, but I like your comment nonetheless.
Absolutely right, this is a song of triumph
I'm not very educated when it comes to classical music (sure I know several Beethoven works, but not this one, I don't know why), and while watching the movie, I focused on the speech and the visual parts more. Then many years later I heard this symphony on radio and I was like "Omg! It's that song! It was in a very strong scene in the end of a movie, some movie about war!" - that was all I recalled first. It took me one more year to finally have the lightbulb turn on during a Beethoven concert seen on TV, and then I was like "OMG! It was in the King's Speech!!". Sorry if this story sounded dumb as hell, but I almost started to cry when I finally found this scene and put the pieces together.
My band is playing this for a tour later in the year
In this grave hour, perhaps the most fateful in our history I send to every household of my peoples both at home and overseas this message. Spoken with the same depth of feeling for each one of you as if I were able to cross your threshold and speak to you myself. For the second time in the lives of most of us we are at war. Over and over again we have tried to find a peaceful way out of the differences between ourselves and those who are now our enemies, but it has been in vain. We have been forced into a conflict for we are called to meet the challenge of a principle which if it were to prevail would be fatal to any civilized order in the world. Such a principle stripped of all disguise is surely the mere primitive doctrine that might is right. For the sake of all that we ourselves hold dear it is unthinkable that we should refuse to meet the challenge. It is to this high purpose that I now call my people at home and my peoples across the seas who will make our cause their own. I ask them to stand calm and firm and united in this time of trial. The task will be hard. There may be dark days ahead and war can no longer be confined to the battlefield. But we can only do the right as we see the right and reverently commit our cause to God. If one and all we keep resolutely faithful to it then, with God's help, we shall prevail.
Thank you.
Thank you 🤝
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Thank you, he spoke too fast for me to keep up.
Oh hey you just saved me from having to listen to it over and over for homework. Thanks!
British actors like Colin Firth -PURE CLASS and TALENT.
I would suggest looking at George VI in footage, and you will not see anything that remotely looks like Colin Firth. There is NO resemblance whatsoever. The director obviously didn't even try to get Firth's hair right, much less his voice.
Our Colin has dual nationality now - British-Italian.
What an amazing testimony to the power of the human spirit.
4:32 I just love that moment from Logue. For the first time, he wasn't supporting Bertie as a therapist but had a moment as a citizen in the UK to take in not only Bertie's inspirational words but his own achievement to help him.
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 Regardless, he was still living in the UK.
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 Seriously. The completely unnecessary and petty points that people make on RUclips is ridiculous. I was only talking from a character perspective about Logue's emotion while listening to him, not making it an immigration debate...
Yes! I noticed that too! He knew Bertie found his rhythm..."his voice" and began to back off. Listening to the speech rather than trying to coach him. So good!
He could've won the Oscar anyway without this scene, but this...just made it a landslide.
Unreal performance. Colin Firth is just a fine fine actor overall and in this movie he really shined.
yeah and edgelords still think eisenberg deserved the award for his potrayal of zuckerburg
This scene still brings me to tears. But tears of triumph. I too stutter and although not as severely as he I know the feeling of being powerless to your own body. With help from an amazing man he was able to overcome his disability and lead. Definitely a great movie and worth watching over and over again.
Lionel says that he stammers on the W, but where does he do that exactly?
victorrain I sure didn't catch it
victorrain I think when he said "we are at...war" and that may be considered stammer on the W, I suppose.
+Cali Redd please see my comments...assuming they even posted! Best Wishes to you!
I have a friend who is a stutter. Yes he struggled a lot since his childhood. And yet we both have our differences in our looks, tastes. But not our way of speech. Everyone is special and my friend is my my friend whomever he is.
I've stammered all my life, or at least since I was very young (I have vague memories from when I was 3-4 and I don't think I stammered then). I love this film because it shows that stammerers really can talk. I've literally had people assume I'm unintelligent or slow because sometimes it can take me a while to get through a sentence. This film really brought awareness to the condition and showed how it affects people from all walks of life. The King's Speech was the first blockbuster movie I ever saw where the protagonist had a stammer, and I really identified with that scene at Wembley because it reminded me of having to read aloud in class at school and simply not being able to do it. I've now learned to live with it without it bothering me and now just see it (somewhat ironically) as a conversation topic. However there are so many people who struggle with it, are bullied for it and aren't able to manage it effectively who often suffer in silence, literally. The King's Speech as a movie is a rallying cry to people who stammer and for that reason I couldn't love it more.
Theocook1 i totally understand ur feeling..im a stammerer too myself..i did most of what was shown in this movie before i even watchd it..having to watch it in a movie, i feel proud of myself cz i found myself out..when i practice this infront my friends, they laughed at me n they said 'a stupid way of overcoming stammer, what is so hard abt talk..just talk n dun stammer' if only it was that easy..i do stammer sometime every here n then but i will fall back to the basics that i learn..the most important thing is confidence, u have that u can have anything..i 1st started not caring what other people will think what i say n how i said it..after a year of shitless words i said, i start to think before i talk..n now i dun get stammer very often, only when asked difficult questions
Thanks for sharing Theocook1. It's amazing the places where we can find inspiration.
I know right? It's so frustrating when you know what you want to say but can't say it, with people looking at you like you're an idiot.
can i ask you a question? I always get annoyed when others try to complete the sentences of stammerers. Because if i we re a stammerer i wouldnt want it. It would make me feel so little. When talking to someone who stammers do you let them 'struggle' or is that a bad thing? See i know you aren't stupid you just take a while longer to speak sentences, sometimes, and i couldn't care less.
Honestly, finishing a stammerer's sentence for them is probably the least helpful thing you could do. All but the very worst stammerers will get through the sentence eventually and particularly if someone is actively trying to get over it they will want to finish the sentence themselves. Once I was playing Brutus in a school production of Julius Caesar, and although once I knew the lines by heart I didn't stammer over them, whilst I was still learning them I stammered terribly trying to say them. The teacher in charge was very understanding but several of the other actors kept finishing my lines for me and it made me feel awful.
This scene gives me chills. At 3:52, his mother couldn't decide whether to grimace at the gravity of the announcement, or smile with pride at her son's timely redemption as King.
No accident that it was marked by the climax of the 2nd movement in Beethoven's 7th, methinks. Well-done.
Flawlessly executed moviemaking. You very eloquently put my thoughts into words.
I've always enjoyed her facial expressions. You explained them well.
My favorite part is seeing his mother's face as she takes in his perfect speech. She was so distant, not just physically but emotionally, yet she knows how hard this must be for her son. And the music that rises as it zooms in on her face - she looks proud. Wonderful movie!
Holywood might be in the lead in terms of film quantity and maybe quality but when it comes to actors, man do you guys not let up. What the hell do you teach them in drama school to make so many of them so good.
Peter Regan That's kinda what i did. Who do you think i was asking?
I'm not gonna argue wording with you man. Eleven other people understood what i meant. I was reffering to hollywood movies not actors.
It's all good man. No hard feelings. Im sorry if i came across bitter or something, not my intention. Just trying to clarify.
Ангел василев did I just see a internet comment thread that ended with niceties and respect?! I found it guys! I fucking found the ark of the covenant
Maybe both of them are canadians hahaha
One of the best speeches in film history.
George VI was a remarkable man. Thrust into a role he was never expected to take, he overcame immense obstacles and personal challenge to become one of the most beloved and honored monarchs in British history. Whereas Winston Churchill embodied the fierce, proud fighting spirit of the British people and the peoples of the Empire drew inspiration from that, they likewise drew inspiration from the quiet, rock steady constancy of their King who refused to back down in the face of Nazi aggression. This movie was a beautiful testament to his life and one of the most critical periods of his reign.
captain barbosa is the best
rakki realm what has becoming of my ships
Bellatrix too XD
Bellatrix was great!
Rush is a master actor as far as im concerned
One of the finest actors ever
There are some actors who become their characters with their masterful performances. You'd think Helen Mirren was Queen Elizabeth, Daniel Day-Lewis was Lincoln, and Colin Furth was King George. What greatness.
Dunno. Daniel Day-Lewis will always be the dude who said, "I will drink your milkshake" to me.
That's not Helen Mirren. it's Helena Bonham- Carter
It's Helena Bonham Carter in this scene but the actress Helen Mirren is known for playing Queen Elizabeth II in the television serial Elizabeth I, for Channel 4.
I don't stutter, but I have social anxiety, and it can give the same symptoms. This is so relatable I actually get a physical reaction watching it, the amount of courage on display here...wow!
To be the King of a people faced with total oblivion, knowing you can barely utter a sentence without making everyone embarrassed, knowing everyone is now looking to you for guidance, knowing the very spirit of your nation hinges on your inspirational words, and then you step up and you do this!
The courage demonstrated here rivals that of any battlefield if you ask me!
Salty Admiral just know that the social anxiety eventually does go away
And know that regardless of whether or not you know this, believe that someone out there loves you
propranolol is a blood pressure medication that might help with this. Ask your doctor.
ITS BEEN 5 YEARS BUT STILL NO ONE ASKED
This means so much today.
This film is among my top 100....of all time. How ironic that during his speech the most beautiful 2nd movement of Beethoven's 7th is played in the background. Afterward the allegretto movement from Ludwig's "Emperor's Concerto" is played. What a fabulous cast and Tom Hooper is among THE best. This is one of those films that brings me to tears, as it addresses the human condition in a most sensitive way.
Could you explain the irony, please?
@ sattfield...Ah... the irony? Ludwig composed this as a tribute to the soldiers during the Napoleonic war. He believed Bonaparte would be the great liberator...instead, he watched him become a dictator and endured personally, the horrors, first hand. Beethoven became so angry, he wanted to destroy the Emperor Concerto. I thank God he did not do so. It is still a magnificent work of art, putting aside politics. Please forgive my English. Vive les ARTS!
Thank you! Genuinely fascinating, and your English is perfect, don't worry.
I was looking up this track to add to what I think are the most beautiful pieces of music ever written. My other choices (because you took the time to explain to me) were:
The Fountain OST (Clint Mansell) - Death Is The Road To Awe
Isis - Weight
Mogwai - I'm Jim Morrison, I'm Dead
Interstellar OST (Hans ZImmer) - No Time For Caution
Arcade Fire - Intervention
Radiohead - Weird FIshes / Arpeggi
Underworld - Jumbo
Thanks again!
sattfield ....you have good taste. You appear to be unusual. Always remember.... Unusual....is good!
This is the perfect scene for Beethoven's 7th symphony. Simply perfect.
Okay, time for some historical trivia:
1. George's nickname really was "Bertie", but only his family ever called him that. While he and Lionel were close friends, Logue always used proper decorum when speaking to him--he was NEVER casual.
2. The treatment was an arduous process that lasted over a decade, maybe two.
3. The false concept that smoking helps you speak better was preached by doctors in those days, sadly. It's actually what led to George's death: he smoked like a chimney until he died.
4. George was a strong supporter of Chamberlain's appeasement policy, and he didn't care much for Churchill on a personal level or a political one. It was only after the war that he began to regard Churchill in a more positive manner.
To expand on 2 and 4. After he bombed a speech in 1925, the future King sought the help of Lionel in 1926 and by 1927 Albert was confident and could get through a speech with little to no missteps. But they continued to work together through the 30's and 40's to keep him sharp.
Also I read that Churchill was put into this movie because he is probably the most recognizable figure in UK political history especially to those outside the UK.
A funny thing about No, 4 tell me who said this? "Appeasement through fear and weakness and alike both futile and fatal, appeasement through strength is both magumass and nobel. Then Chamberlain was very more vocal against Hitler after and recent research was it was all for buying time... I'd do that being a ruthless bastard.
The real damage from appeasement came not under Chamberlain but Stanley Baldwin.
Gopr311 Let me guess, he did it from a stance of fear and weakness?
The "piece of paper" brought back from Berlin probably bought us some time to rearm. Germany had been arming itself for years before that and this activity had been swept under the carpet. We really weren't ready for war so the first year of it (from 1939) was a great piece of luck. The real ordeal started around 1940, with us being bombed etc. The blitz was dreadful for ordinary working class people. It was us that lived close to the targets - East End of London surrounding the Docks. The Windsor family were suspicious of Winston Churchill. He was a grandson of the 7th Duke of Marlborough and part of the Aristocracy, in turn natural decendants of the Barons who made King John sign the Magna Carta, thus tempering the power of an absolute monarch. Had we had an opportunity to elect a President and had Churchill stood - he would have gotten elected such was his popularity. He was grudgingly given what amounted to a State funeral in 1965 - something of an anathema to ruling monarchs. It is said that when one of the heads of the British Military said to the King, "Your Majesty, I thought Churchill was after my job" the King was rumoured to have retorted, "Really, I thought he was after mine!" Or words to that effect. We were saved from the Nazi jackboot by the bravery and hard work of millions of people here in GB and throughout the Commonwealth and our allies in Europe. I often listen to General de Gaulle's speech to rally the French troops. It's a tearjerker and a half
It's pretty awesome that he's able to use his stammering to enhance the drama of his speech. It's always a gift to be able to turn a disadvantage into an advantage.
This scene brings tears to my eyes every time. Great performance in a great film!
As a person who used to stutter severely, this film was/is /will be a great inspiration for me.
As of September 8, 2022, Queen Elizabeth II passed away. George, Elizabeth I, Margaret, and Elizabeth II are together now.
such an inspiration, when one thinks about the teacher/student relationship this speech represented.
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Jessy Robyn he just uploaded king speech part 2!
Lmao here because even this week we got a Kings speech reference 😂😂
Amazing. A man who couldn't read a paragraph to an ordinary bloke one morning. Would go on to be a King who would rally a nation, an Empire and even the world, to fight against the greatest threat to freedom the world has ever known.
God Save the King. Rule Britannia.
No, the real confusion is that Great Britain only fought the United States once, and that was long before the US became the greatest threat to freedom the world has ever known.
one of the greatest moments in history...
As if I wasn't in love with Colin Firth enough.
I don't know when I have ever heard music in the background so perfectly married to the action in the scene itself...
...and the idea that it was composed as "absolute music," with no particular "programme" in mind, almost 200 years before the production of this film, makes the perfection of its use here all the more astonishing.
I have a really bad stutter, I'm 20 years old. This scene made me cry harder than any movie scene ever has.
@Not Another Minute My stutter had gotten better, and I’m finally getting a speech therapist!
@Not Another Minute Thanks, and have a great day! Bless your kind soul!
And so many years lather...the "For we are called to meet the challenge of a principle which, if it were to prevail, would be fatal to any civilized order in the world. Such a principle, stripped of all disguise, is surely the mere primitive doctrine that "might is right". For Ukraine we say an to ALL EUROPE: "But we can only do the right as we see the right, and reverently commit our cause to God.
If one and all we keep resolutely faithful to it, then, with God's help, we shall prevail".
THANK YOU YOUR MAJESTY KING GEORGE THE VI for these words that light up our path in 2022!!!
INSPIRATIONAL MOVIE......WORTH WATCHING AGAIN AND AGAIN
I DO STAMMER AND LEARN FROM LOT FROM IT
Why do people stammer?? : s
+Desirée Rodríguez Well for King George VI, he was intimidated by his father (King George V) and made him nervous and seemed like a confidence issue with him. The King's Speech is a great movie covering his battle with his stammer.
+Akshay kharwa I like Winston Churchill's comment to him before his speech.
yeah,... well : ) Im curious about it...
+Desirée Rodríguez People stammer because of their breathing pattern is not flowing in proper manner as compared to people who speak fluently..People stammer more when they are in stress or nervousness in their mind.
Whilst it's true this is a great Hollywood piece this I found was an incredible film, a story of struggle and triumph- being a historian this scene makes me feel simply awed at what King George VI had to overcome as a person and as a leader of sorts- having a disability of sorts myself I find it brilliant that there are films such as this to show that many can succeed despite their many doubts
This represents possibly the single most British trait of all, sheer bloody mindedness.
Chris D'elia announcing his Netflix special.
Such a good movie! And let's hear it for Beethoven!
God Save the King.
RIP King George VI
My fav movie. Colin Firth did a great job.
This shows Britain for what it really is. In the face of adversity, we stand strong. We are a proud nation! We will never waiver, we will never give in and we will prevail! We are a Great Britain!
+ExoJedi13 Good for you, as long as you keep your hands to yourself and stop stealing from others
Karthik V That's what WW1 was all about, i.e. Britain trying to take over all of Europe.
Dan tobad you are just a downgrade to America except for your castles which are kinda cool.
Silly Slim buddy we made America
Silly Slim 1)America as a country started out as English colonies 2) The only reason America became the world leading super power is because the British had been bled dry by two subsequent world wars, two wars that paved the way for the American industrial complex to become the powerhouse it did. 3)With the British bled dry, someone also had to step in and take of the pax Britannica to police and guard the sea lanes, which America did so. This led to America becoming the world police they are today, which makes the American armed forces the strongest armed forces in the world right now.
So you can thank the good English people for letting America become great.
The first time I saw this scene, I heard the first note at 0:02 and immediately realized it was Beethovens 7th symphony, I had shivers going through my entire body which remaind for the entire speach. And I still get them today.
Colin firth is such an extrordinary actor
Rush is such an elegant actor.
According to IMDb, this piece of music had been used in 34 movies and TV shows _before_ the King's Speech got to it. Nice work, Beethoven.
When it comes to triumph over personal anguish and terrible tragedy that is Beethoven's speciality.
What an emotional movie, respect the mental of British .
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Half a rasher tierney
Mental for wanting sovereignty? Is it mental to not want to be governed by the fourth reich? The EU is showing it's true colours in the face of our request to leave, they have made three counties vote twice on their independence because they didn't like the outcome.
Am I mad because I want our laws to come from our parliament, not some political union which has repeatedly shown it's utter disregard for democracy? Because I want my nation to decide who it lets in? We are the 5th biggest economy in the world and you think we're going to crumble to nothing because we leave a union which offers tax deals?
Fabulous, wonderful film and acting. This is a pleasure to see.
It ends on "prevail." A clever writing choice--the king has also prevailed in his own way here.
I love this movie
Oh the joy we felt in the cinema as we clapped and cheered after the speech. No words can describe it.
Learn the secret of nature her secret is patience.thanks.
A small island with only a relatively small channel separating them from their enemy. Sheer willpower kept those isles safe. God bless you, you brits! From America
What an amazing scene! The music is PERFECT and the acting amazing. So great
It's interesting because Logue starts to see Bertie transform from one of his students to a strong and noble king as the speech progressed. Terrific performances from both Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush!
I started tearing up.
a good actor transmits without saying a word.... Geoffrey Rush
Colin Firth as always.
I have watched this a few times, it still gives me goose bumps
Colin Firth truly deserved the Academy Award for Best Actor. So pleased he did as this scene truly showed his great acting and above all speech.
This speech stumped Hitler's.
No it didn't.
nah that will have be the
""we shall fight them on the beaches" by Churchill
Robert Lee yeah but the @#$/st still lost innit
Robert Lee Churchills speech was by far the best and eeriest though. Saying that Britain shall fight till the end and alone if necessary. Which it kinda did for some years.
"I will conquer the world with my vampire army!" -Adolf Hitler
this scene deserve 5 oscars
this amazing speech is conducted in the same flow as the slow movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony
I always get so emotional watching this oh my god
My grandmother is English. My American grandpa married a women he met there during the war. The bond between our two countries is really amazing if you think about our history.
They played this to introduce the Best Picture nominations of 2010. Simply sensational.
Absolutely first class film and acting. Seen this many times and enjoy it every time.
Great movie and wonderful actor
There is a important lesson to be learnt from this movie: if you have fear inside of you that prevents you from fullfilling your potential, you better confront it head on before it manages to ruin your life. This is very powerfull stuff.
I love the acting/directing choice they make there, as the speech starts to talk directly about war, of having Lionel stop his "conducting" and just listen. Not only is he confident of Bertie's ability to land the speech without further assistance... Lionel also knows the toll of war, having treated Australian veterans for shell shock-induced speech impediments.
I also have a stuttering problem and this film is really inspirational to me, what this king did, was beyond courageous and says to me that just because someone has a stuttering problems, that they dont have to amount to nothing
love this film. watch it whenever it comes on T.V. even brings a lump to my throat thinking about what the Man went through in real life trying to be a King by default and then you throw a world war on his lap.of course this film is for intelligent people who don't need car chases, cops (yawn) endless explosions etc..this is just pure history with great acting. a lot of popcorn eating kids at the cinema wouldn't get it, but each to their own. i get it..everytime.
Original sound track in this part is Beethoven's symphony No. 7 of II ( Allegretto).
It's wonderful & well matched with sound track.!
They deserved all the awards and recognitions they got! Colin Firth astonished me as always
I wish our leaders spoke like this today.
Perfect timing with the music.
Fantastic.....Speech and ESPECIALLY That music.....
"For the second time in the lives of most of us, we are at war." My god, what that generation endured.
They also had the Great Depression during the 1930s.
@@electronwave4551 As a child, my grandfather watched his father march away to fight the First World War. He himself fought in the Second, enduring the loss of a beloved younger brother and brother in law to war, as well as a sister back home to illness. Whatever he saw in that war was so horrific, he would never talk about it. My grandmother cared for two children and a handful of elderly relatives through the Blitz, not knowing from moment to moment whether her husband was alive or not - she didn't see him for years. And yes, on top of all that, the Depression. And yet I never remember either of them complaining, though they'd have been more than justified. Their strength, and this scene, moves me to tears.
@@Silver_Owl Yeah, they were a tough times for the greatest generation. Someone once remarked that the young men returned from the second world war looking far older than their years.
In the mid-1980's I was on a bus tour and was on friendly terms with a gent who served in WWII. We were walking through a Japanese garden in Townsville Australia and after a while he said "Let's get the hell out of here!" He thought he might have said something politically incorrect, but I let him know I understood.
A little later I was in the middle of outback Queensland on a cattle property after landing on a dirt airstrip in the middle of no where and having a chat to the station owner's wife, who asked me to excuse her husband who was an ex-RAAF and who said nothing; but you could observe that the sight of the small plane brought back a lot of silent memories, or as they say, the 10 thousand mile stare.
Same year, in Perth at a museum is a Lancaster bomber, and one poor guy just wandered around inside the building all day whenever his mates had their weekly get together, and never spoke to the public.
In 2014, I was arranging to speak to a rear gunner of a Lancaster who was near his time, but he got the wrong idea that I would publish his recollections, and cancelled. He passed away a few months later.
Actor John Mills captured that indomitable British spirit and the cost war imposes, and the sheer lunacy of it all, in "Ice Cold in Alex".
On a lighter note, one guy drove the government roadwork utility vehicle in the '70s and '80s like the Spitfires of his youth, and no one would willingly sit in the passenger seat for fear of their life. My old man had to take that seat one day, and said you had to hold onto the sides of the car or else be thrown out the open windows on corners. The same guy used to do pranks on other drivers. Not recommended! :)
@@electronwave4551 Thanks, those are great stories! That's what gets me, so many people had a story, and sometimes you could know them for ages before they'd even mention it. Like the teacher I once had, who casually mentioned one day that he'd never had the chance to meet his grandparents, uncles etc. His parents were German Jews who'd emigrated in the mid 30s. They'd been the only survivors from both families. And another teacher who mentioned after years of knowing her that she occasionally still had nightmares of being buried in rubble....she'd lost everyone but her father. They went through a lot. But thanks for the lighter note too, I laughed at the Hell on Wheels ex Spitfire guy!
@@Silver_Owl I might add something ... (hopefully others reading this will obey the road rules please) ...
Vehicles were dutifully waiting for the lights to change, and perhaps a little inattentive. "Watch this, Paul!" says the ex-Spit. He bolts into the intersection and a number of other vehicles in adjacent lanes commence to do the same, without noticing the traffic lights are still red. The ex-Spit promptly stops and reverses back out of the intersection as the lane is empty behind him. Others are not so fortunate, as when they notice the red light and stop, they can't reverse as other traffic has followed behind them in their lanes, leaving them stranded in the middle of the intersection. Dad said the ex-Spit just laughed his head off! I can only guess there was no traffic on the crossing lanes! It was common knowledge anyone unlucky enough to have been in the passenger seat lacked color in their face stepping out of the vehicle.
It was great to chat! Cheers!
This scene gives me goosebumps every time. Piece of art.
I got goosebumps from watching every second of this video. This is the best film of 2010 an complete masterpiece.
take a bow Colin firth!
sublime scene. The greatest victory was Bertie's fight against his stammering. He also rise his self steem as king. He understood in the moment that he is the king's the empires needs. Awesome! It chills my spine everytime I see this.
Bravo to all connected with this inspirational film
At 5:00, Churchill (who had a tongue-tied speech defect) gives his verdict to the Prime Minister -- "Perfect!" -- then leans forward and glances in the direction of the Archbishop as if to say, 'You still want to make something of it?'
These little background scenes made a great movie greater.
Logue's reward came in 1944 when George VI appointed him a a Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (CVO), elevating him from Member of the Order. He died in London in 1953 at the age of 73.
such a good film!!
Watching this for inspiration just before my job interview by videoconference
Best scene and best music
Nothing more inspiring than seeing a man fight two battles at once: one against an external enemy (the Nazis) and one against himself.
Everythings good when Beethoven's music is in place
My favourite King of England, became the King when he didn't want to and had a stutter but had to give out speeches for the war, and still managed which made him inspirational.
He is just a phenomenal actor
A true testament to the survival and triumph of the human spirit!
Firth's performance paired with Beethoven's 7th is one of the most brilliant scenes in movie history.
Such a beautiful speech!
Thank you so much for posting!
I have learnt a lot from this movie from being a stutter to confident speaker...Thos days of bullying still give me chills..
Does anyone else see the irony in using German music in this scene?
This was before Germany
But after the WWI
The British Radio used more Beethoven than any other composer during the war, specifically the Fifth Symphony, V for Victory.
Beethoven was German
A point well raised.