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Outsourcing your photography retouching
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2021
- Here I talk a bit about why I rarely retouch my work and the difference between retouching and editing.
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outsourcing your photography retouching
I’ve been doing retouching professionally for over 10 years and I can tell you the majority of photographers don’t like retouching or their skills are limited. My clients prefer to pass it on to me, it helps them to focus on other things. Retouching is a very tedious and time consuming job specially in the commercial world where the deadlines are tight and the expectations are high. There’s a comment below saying retouching is cheating, that’s utter bullshit. Photographers have been retouching their images since the early days of photography, just because they didn’t use photoshop doesn’t mean retouching didn’t exist. Retouching or post production is just part of the creative process just like recording music at a studio for example.
Hey Erwin, do you have a website or Instagram I can visit? Potential client here
I do it myself, but I really don't enjoy it, so I'm looking into outsourcing retouching to free up my time for what I enjoy most - photography.
I am strictly a hobbyist. For my personal growth and skill set I touch up my pictures. I can spend a lot of time tweaking levels and end up with something real close to what I started with. I will take away blemishes, wrinkles (if requested), fly away hair, but in the end I am just looking for a slight better picture as the end result. Most of the stuff I adjust will probably only be noticed by me.
I recently took some pictures at a wedding and I realized that retouching is a lot harder than I had imagine! And it is specially harder when the original image is not exposed 100% correctly. I don't feel as bad now that I see that even a professional portrait photographer like you will consider outsourcing the retouching when and if it is needed. Thanks.
I think the professionals who came up in film have a little different ethos than those who have only worked digitally.
Glad you talked about this Daniel Norton! Yes, with commercial clients they have their own Colors Separation and retoucher Team. Funny I remember a friend who worked asa retoucher and one time when I visited him at work he had pieces of clothing on his work area, turns out that at the time of the shoot the sample they had was not the right color so they provided the piece in the actual color and fabric so it could be modified. Also, the "filters" phone cameras offer now are not helping as so many people expect to be smoothed out!
I would send out for any major retouching too, small stuff I am fine with. Thanks Daniel and have a good weekend. 👍😀🇨🇦
Like you said, I try as best as I can to get the lighting right in camera so there's very little, if any, retouching I do. The actors I shoot understand I'm still in the learning process, but the tools in programs like Lightroom and Luminar AI have been extremely useful for me to tweak a headshot, if necessary, with a tiny bit of skin smoothing or brightening up the face a bit more from the background and then I see how I can improve in camera each time after that with the equipment I have. That being said, your videos involving a single flash have been incredibly helpful and I'm thankful for that.
My assistant loves retouching our weddings and family portraits. Our commercial work is 50/50 sent out.
Cool!
Agree with your reasoning. Compared to retouching an 8" x 10" negative, Photoshop is a lot easier, though, especially when you discover it has a "photography" workspace setup (which I discovered yesterday). It boils down to how you value your own time, both in terms of learning and other shoots you could do. To me, having hands on experience with Ps means I have a notion of what is possible, how much work it is, and how to communicate about it. Which helps a lot in outsourcing.
Retouching is a delicate balance - it requires great restraint to avoid delivering fantasy work. And once you start doing it, the subject often wants you to take it too far. Still, I love it when you can see joy in their face by reducing crows feet by 50%. If you can charge more by using additional lights (per Daniel) then similarly, your tips are bigger by reducing (not eliminating) a forehead furrow here and there. 🤣 Yes, I don't get the same kind of models Daniel gets. That is a very important factor in this topic! 😁
I do both things. Clearly, it is easier to have the final result direct from the camera, that makes the post production work much easier, especially when we are talking about a large number of photos. But, generally speaking, I like the post-production work as much as the creative process of the image.
I try to minimize retouching and get it close in camera. I will remove pimples/spots and a minor skin smooth, but try to keep it looking natural. I don't tend to remove wrinkles, moles or scars - unless requested. I'm no retouch expert and like to spend time doing other things :)
I do my own retouching and my rule of thumb is to remove anything that won't be there in a week or two. Blemishes, cuts, scabs, eye makeup fragments, etc.
There was interview with Dan Winters where they asked if he did processing & retouching and he said he does not. That’s seems understandable if you have reached that top tier elite status as a photographer it seems to make more sense to concentrate on maintaining the quality of the captures your known for and then pass the images from your session to a top tier post processor. Each side of the business has its own unique acquired skills. You photographers who have acquired that kind of reputation in the business why not take advantage of the best post processing you can get.
I edit in Lightroom and very seldom use photoshop unless I'm making a designed composite. I also try to get as much correct in camera so I don't have to spend a lot of time editing. I shoot raw with a flat profile so I do some small adjustments to make it a little more vibrant. Obviously I'll remove pimples and other distracting blemishes but leave natural/permanent features alone. The best edits are ones you can't tell they're edited.
I love to edit as much as I love looking into the sun with the correct eye gear. But taking the images are much more enjoyable, not saying I don’t edit or not but I rather leave it as out of camera as I can.
I edit locally in C1, for the most part that's all that's needed. The majority of our client's are digital. Anything that goes to print, is out sourced.
I like retouching more and have more or less stopped shooting as I find I don't have the personal eye for it. Any way to let people know that I do, this but not jump into something as heavily saturated as fiverr?
Thank you for sharing.
Question: If you were to pass the whole "session" file to the client, is there a need to do any tweaking to the files on your side at all since the client may be able to adjust them again?
Can you explain more on what you mean by "colour separation"?
Thanks!
I retouch as little as possible........I try to get it right in camera
I edit photos would only retouch if it was required or I thought it would improve the photo
if I take a almost perfect picture, but there a power line running across the background that can be removed in ps, is this making the picture better or retouching?
Does it matter which one is it? Besides photo journalism, I feel you can edit as much as you feel confortableI, although I would say that the important part is not to lie about it.
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I'd rather hire a professional retoucher - I try to get as much as possible in the camera, do one picture as reference for the retoucher, to give them an idea about what look I'm after and let them do what they do best... I prefer spending time behind the camera rather than in front of the computer...