I've never really thought about the difference in sound in concert pianos, even of the same brand. Interesting to hear, the difference is really obvious!
The sound of historic pianoforte's contained a lot of character and almost vocal like tonal-properties which would be much easier to hear the difference. Modern concert grands are so neutral they can certainly seem void of soul (it gets real old hearing the same boring personality on every concert grand, I suspect this is partially why Gould spent so long looking for a piano). In my experience Steinway has a particular sound and they're very good at copy/pasting that. Now they just need to fix the inconsistent quality of their actions. For some reason piano manufacturers fantasize over heavy actions despite that pianists are usually small and decrepit. Etudes come with repetitive strain-disorder on those pianos I guess. The two pianos in this video come from different factories, that's mainly why they sound so different. But every instrument piano or otherwise sounds different just due to tiny differences in the manufacturing process.
@@BH-2 If my goal was tone-colour, I would not be purchasing a modern concert grand. Probably something much older. Beethoven's pathetique on historic pianoforte sounds much more colourful than today's pianos.
@@MegaMech I kind of agree and disagree with you on that. :P I think historic pianos has a different tone rather than 'more' tone colours (if that make sense). The way older pianos were constructed, the technologies back then limited how sound is produced. Saying that, that 'sound' from ancient instruments is very nostalgic and is very attractive. I had the chance to play and perform on fortepianos when I was a student at music college, and I think playing Beethoven on older instruments do seem a lot more 'authentic'.
I really love that mindset of yours! I used to be so sad that I don't own an acoustic piano, and people kept telling me that with a digital I wouldn't be able to make it as a pianist. But, I just learned to adapt to the sometimes very weird key action of my digital piano and even though this is no 'real' sound coming out of the piano's speakers, I realised that I can change colours and present a piece in different ways. I mean, playing on it still is different from a real piano. But, the result, the way your interpretation sounds is all that matters. So don't blame the piano (unless it's broken and really useless😅). You can grow with any instrument as a musician. Even with digital ones!🎶 Never give up❤👍 Peace out🍀
I started with a terrible electric piano. Having a good piano is important to success. But if you don't have a good teacher that properly teaches piano it doesn't matter if you had a Steinway concert grand. Don't be sad. Just work your way up to a better instrument. Unless you live in a small town, it's usually not too hard to access a decent piano once or twice a week. Church, piano in a public place, etc.
You have a great attitude and spirit! Keep it up! Some digital instruments are reasonably useable for practice up to a point. I have a Yamaha P125 which gives a fair range of colors and the perceived feel of the action can be altered by changing the touch sensitivity and volume. I find that setting the touch to hard and turnnig the volume to just below the middle I can simulate an action with a touch-response similar to a typical grand piano. You bring out a very good point, however, and that is that a pianist must adapt to the instrument "at hand" to bring out the best musical rendition possible. Every piano is different, which obviously requires adaptation such as we're seeing with Tiffany. (I'm a;lso an organist, and if you think pianos are different, wait til you go from one organ to another one ... !)
I play almost exclusively on my digital Kawai CA48. It's great for starting out, but it's night and day when I get the rare opportunity to play on my friend's acoustic Yamaha. I yearn for my own acoustic piano, but I don't have the space at the moment. I personally think people who are passionate about piano but only have access to a digital version would benefit from playing on acoustic pianos when they can - the aliveness, the reverb, the sound, the touch, all very different from digital. I want to compose and record one day, I wouldn't record from my digital piano, it just doesn't sound as good.
@@kalilavalezina As an academic pianist. Whether you purchase an electric piano, an upright piano, or a baby grand piano, all of them have downsides. Electric piano actions can be pretty bad. But the sound is usually decent and you never have to tune them. Baby grand pianos usually have good actions, but can sound pretty bad because the strings are so short. Upright pianos can't play very fast works. If the action of your electric piano works fast enough to do what you need it to do, then be happy with what you have or trade it in for a different model if you find one better for around the same price. Depending how picky you are, you'll never be happy. So find something you can be mostly happy with.
I'm a gospel pianist, at the mercy of the churches across the country I play in. I've played everything from a New York D to some pretty bad uprights, so hearing a classical pianist talking about challenging herself to find the tones in a piano is fascinating because you get to pick from the best and well regulated instruments, but still you love the challenge that we church musicians hate, but it's part of our jobs. You do some amazing work!
I absolutely adore the depth of explanation you give in describing this process and all your insights in these videos. You articulate your thoughts so well, that it really completes the picture of what you’re trying to accomplish and how. Thank you for letting us live vicariously in your beautiful 🌎 ! ❤️
Thanks to you and Steinway/S.F., for giving us a sit-in & listen-in on your playing and selection process! It's always great to hear someone in the stratosphere of ability, testing out some music that is also in the stratosphere of composition, on a stratospheric instrument! It just doesn't get any better. Except the actual concerts, of course! Fred PS. Thanks for the attributions for all the pieces. I for one, really appreciate that!
So fascinating to watch you test the pianos Tiffany - and thank you for taking us with you!!!! Oh and hearing you play beloved Scarlatti reminds me to thank you for getting me into Scarlatti too!!!! 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎵🎹🙂🙂🙂🤗😍
The position of the pianos makes for a slightly slanted comparison. But that's inconsequential when dealing with fabulous instruments like these, prepped by a skilled dealer. The Hamburg piano is reflecting off the brick wall, while the NY has another piano mostly in the way, maybe even creating some sympathetic resonance. Also, really enjoyed the playing and interpretations!
I LOVED CLASSICAL MUSIC AS A YOUTH ESPECIALLY THE PIANO BUT AS I GREW OLDER ROCK MUSIC TOOK MY FANCY AND NOW KPOP (YES!). BUT FINDING YOUR CHANNEL I RENEWED MY INTEREST IN CLASSICAL MUSIC. I ESPECIALLY LOVE YOUR TRANSPARENCY REGARDING THE EMOTIONAL JOURNEY YOU ARE TAKING, AN EXPLANATION OF YOUR TAKE ON THE PIECES YOU PLAY AND A PEEK INTO THE DYNAMICS OF THE INSTRUMENT ITSELF. YOU HELPED SAVE MY LIFE DURING A VIRTUAL LOCKDOWN DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. I KNOW YOU GET EMBROILED IN CONTROVERSY BUT I IGNORE IT. YOU HAVE DONE YOUR PART TO RENEW OR CREATE A NEW INTEREST IN CLASSICAL MUSIC. IN THIS DAY AND AGE EVERYONE FROM PRESIDENTS TO MUSICIANS MUST MAINTAIN A POSITION IN SOCIAL MEDIA IF THEY ARE TO BE RELEVANT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN REACH. IT HAS IT'S PITFALLS AND PROBLEMS BUT I LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH RUclips. PLEASE DON'T STOP; IGNORE THE NAYSAYERS. I AM ONE THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO THE FOLD FOR WHICH I AM GRATEFUL.
Thank you, kind Miss Poon. As you often say, you are privileged for doing what you love. In return, we are privileged for viewing from the wings. Cannot emphasize enough the clarity of *what* you are expressing in these intimate vlogs and *how* you are doing it -- great editing, that is. Wishing all safe, all well for tomorrow and always. Waving from Istanbul.
I love when you do these piano "comparison" videos! I remember you did this for the Mozart concertos and it really made me think about what I do/need to listen to when I play...
Your mind set on picking the piano is like an organist like myself. I accept that each pipe organ is different and so I have to adjust on what I’m dealing with and making the best sound I could on that organ. I love your video contents and your musical style. Wishing you the best on your concert tomorrow!
I must admit I have not heard of the Hamburg pianos but being as knowledgeable as you are I think you made the right choice, considering the technical things you would like to use it for and the size of the concert area. I look forward to seeing your videos as I just discovered you as a performing artist just now! You are so talented and I know it has come from lots of hard work on you part. Best of luck and continued success!
I could listen to Tiffany play on an old Wurlitzer upright and be happy. Incredible Talent and Grace. And she is BEAUTIFUL IN & OUT! God Bless Her.. 👍✊✌️❤️
I really like the adjectives and words you use to describe the sound/tones, it makes it easier to fully grasp the differences. Toi toi toi for the concert!
i really like your videos. you are well spoken, do interesting musician things, are very talented and not a stereotypical cringe artist. as someone that has always loved classical piano, but just started playing as an adult, these videos are definitely motivating to keep getting better.
You seem so animated and happy out there! Getting back into the routine that you thrive in!! Have a wonderful time and a great concert! Beautiful post by the way... the colors, the editing, the quality of the recording. Stunning!
Really fun and interesting video. Hope you tell us after the concert how you felt about the relationship of hall acoustics and piano. FWIW I’m not a musician but even on YT I thought the sound difference was obvious.
How wonderful to have a choice! You couldn't go wrong with either. Giving yourself a challenge is brave and exciting and should keep you focused during the concert. Best of luck!
Well, there is my answer. I am glad you like making these types of videos because they are my favorite too. I think it was you picking out your new Model B friend that convinced me to subscribe here. Your excitement for the opportunity and process was, and still is, very apparent.
From the first explorations, I felt sure you would choose the New York piano, I think it is more like your home piano. Not that it matters too much and the greater clarity of the Hamburg could have dividends in the concert hall.
Thakks, Tiffany Wosh I had run into you there at my local Steinway store! It was great to hear those NY and Hamburg side by side as I have been looking for an older Hamburg.. I appreciate how you wanted to learn to use the Hamburg's qualities to hone your skills. Sounded amazing. I wish I had been able to go to the Herbst to hear you live.
Fantastic video! Loved hearing the Hamburg and the New York compared side by side like this. Also loved hearing your thought process. Hearing you reach for expression on those keys and seeing you process the differences was amazing. Feel free to share a longer version of this video if you're of a mind to do so, as it would be even more fascinating. You're a gift to us all!
Hearing your rationale for the decision is so beautiful! I think I just got a new dream to see you perform live in person. Am I fan girling right now?!? 🤩
i always love watching your thought processes in choosing pianos. i hope i'll get to see you live one day and hopefully meet you too. also would love to be able to play on a steinway one day. it's the dream
What a coincidence. On Tiffany's March Patreon Q&A I asked her a question about piano selection for each venue she plays. I assumed the venue provided the piano, but in this instance it's Steinway that steps up and gives her a choice of two of their excellent pianos. She hasn't posted her answers to the Q&A yet, but now I have a clue. Way to go, Steinway! 👏👏
That's not always the case, some venues have multiple instruments that are theirs and you can choose from, less big venues just have 1 piano and some artists even bring their own instrument along.
@@nikkivanzanen Tiffany answered my question on Patreon. If you are not aware of it, she has a working relationship with Steinway & Sons, and if the venue has a Steinway that is what she would play. She said they usually let her know the Model type, including serial number, so she will have an idea what to expect (whether it's a New York, or Hamburg model). If all they have is another brand, they will give her the information on it.
Yeah for me it's the Hamburg without question. I get the difficulties and advantages that come with both options though. Also my option would be based on home usage, not concert
The Hamburg one just sounds so much more special. A lot more body. The New York one sounds "less Steinway" and closer to a generic brand like Yamaha (in comparison).
A great window into the ever-morphing creative process. Ms. Poon indeed takes the truer artist path of wanting to rise to the challenge of having a wilder horse to ride that, if she can tame, will give her so much more reward than the staid, pleasant one that is predicted, yet has less to say. An artist is restless by nature and will choose the path of exploration and discovery. Otherwise, the artist’s soul will become stagnant, restless, and dissatisfied. The artist’s process only ends when one gives up the ghost. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I cannot BELIEVE I have to work tomorrow night after waiting so long for you to come to San Francisco, Tiffany. 😩 Alas, some of us musicians have to go when called, even if it's in Folsom! (Look it up!) But I just want to welcome you to the Bay Area and I sincerely hope you'll have a great concert tomorrow. Wishing you all the best. ❤💐
In the Chopin Competition (Warsaw, 2021), each competitor gets 15 minutes to choose one of the five pianos to play for their rounds. Once decided, they have to stick with their choice through the competition. The eventual winner, Bruce Liu, chose the Fazioli and reportedly knew right away that was the piano he wanted to play on for the competition. The five pianos to choose from were: a Yamaha, a Kawai, a Fazioli and two Steinways. Most of the competitors (64 or about 75%) chose to play on one of the Steinways. 9 people selected the Yamaha, 8 the Fazioli piano, and 6 the Kawai piano. Interestingly, all three "Fazioli pianists" admitted to the final round were prize winners, Bruce Liu, the first prize; Martin Garcia Garcia, the third prize; Leonora Armellini, the fifth prize. The second prize winner Alexander Gadjiev, played a Kawai, as well as JJ Jun Li Bui the sixth prize winner. As some people have commented, the age of Steinway is almost over.
very interesting! Thanks for sharing that. I'm also wondering when pianos with alternate-sized (narrower) keyboards will become avaialable as choices (already available in some competitions)
Fazioli piano's are wonderful instruments. My piano tuner is the Fazioli dealer for Belgium. The amount of detail in both the finishing and regulation is astonishing. And I'm proud to say that the chief technician who regulated and maintained the Fazioli grand at the Chopin competition was Ortwin Moreau.
Awesome video, worth to watch and recommend. And yes, you made the correct choice (given the fact that you had 2 days to get used to it)- that Hamburg has wider color range and better sound projection, good for the venue which, (from what I saw), might have dry-ish acoustics. So cool that you could choose a piano for your concert. Most young pianists have to work with what they got. Best wishes for a successful recital!!
I learn so much both from the self-directing annotation/comments as well as the nonjudgmental way in which they're offered. Just seeing you do approach the instrument and little insights like "not together enough" or "need to be closer to the keys" feels like a private lesson.
To compare these pianos to the two great violin makers, Stradivari and Guarneri Del Gesu: I would say the the New York (left) piano is more like a Strad, in that it is warm with a full sound, isn't too harsh, still speaks clearly. It's very colourful. The Hamburg (right) piano is more like a Guarneri del Gesu: it speaks and says "I'm HERE!" haha. It has a brilliance in tone, is very responsive, bright, (seemingly) louder than the other piano and seems to be a piano made for encores rather than deeper repertoire. I could be wrong, but this is just the way I see and hear it!
The biggest difference (on this video) is due to one piano being closer to the microphone. There seem to be other obvious differences but is very hard to judge from unequal micing.
Interesting video. I prefer a piano with warm tones and exquisite, deep base. It's my job, as a pianist, to make the piano "talk/speak" with emotion, happy, sad, calm, excited. Aren't pianos WONDERFUL!
Was it Rachmaninoff looking so interestedly from the painting when you explained your choice? So cool. And also good to see you in such excellent spirits before your concert. Best of luck!
First impressions (a few mins in), the piano on the right is brighter, they're both beautiful, but I think I prefer the left side, It's very slightly thicker, but the margin of preference is tiny, either in isolation are 'perfect', you need to hear them call an respond to hear the difference.
Good choice. It would be tough for me as well to pick. Both are beautiful. I would have made the same choice as you and got the German one. I like a brighter piano with more clarity. Enjoy having a sensitive action.
I think you made a great choice. The seating and the people in the concert hall will take the edge off the piano tone so I think you made the right choice. I feel that the Hamburg piano will respond better to accuracy and precision. It will be a hard taskmaster.
I love these kind of videos!!! For my taste, I prefer the Hamburg Steinway; I feel you can get more of a variety of tone colors out of this piano over the New York Piano
I hear u n ur the professional much success with ur concert but for me ( n wish I could play 1000th as great as u ) I play for my own enjoyment when no one’s around or with my headphones when I moved in with my daughter n family I treated myself to a Roland didgital in the case looks just like a piano n 3 pedals n I’m very happy with it I miss my Wurlitzer console tho n if I could have I would have tried to find a used one anyway my only in my dreams I would like the cozy NY model when I finally go to my heavenly Home maybe there will be one waiting for me n I can play to my hearts content for my Grandmother who is already there she’s the one me my 2 pianos years ago Tiffany I love watching u play especially anything Chopin ur a lovely young woman who is a credit to the classical concert world luv from Pamela NC Merry Xmas 🙋🏼♀️🎅🏻🎄🎼🎹❤️
Fun fact, if you like: You can tell the difference between a New York and Hamburg Steinway model D at a glance. Easy to see from 1:55 to 6:53 if you look closely on full screen 1080p. Spoiler below. The arms at the ends of the keyboard are square (NY) or rounded (Hamburg). The inside of the rim is black (NY) or Rosewood (Hamburg). It seems this doesn't apply to recent model Bs. Tiffany's is from New York but has the case features of a Hamburg model. The Julliard model Bs in Tiffany's early videos have the New York features.
Well I didn't have a chance to test a Hamburg but I can tell instantly from your video why people love them so much. I've played a few D's at dealers and they were all missing something you can hear from the Hamburg one. The salespeople will tell you over and over again "it'll sound better over time!" Pretty disappointing that they aren't more easily available in the US. Luckily there are rebuilders out there who can get that Hamburg quality out of an NY Steinway...
I've never really thought about the difference in sound in concert pianos, even of the same brand. Interesting to hear, the difference is really obvious!
The sound of historic pianoforte's contained a lot of character and almost vocal like tonal-properties which would be much easier to hear the difference. Modern concert grands are so neutral they can certainly seem void of soul (it gets real old hearing the same boring personality on every concert grand, I suspect this is partially why Gould spent so long looking for a piano). In my experience Steinway has a particular sound and they're very good at copy/pasting that. Now they just need to fix the inconsistent quality of their actions. For some reason piano manufacturers fantasize over heavy actions despite that pianists are usually small and decrepit. Etudes come with repetitive strain-disorder on those pianos I guess.
The two pianos in this video come from different factories, that's mainly why they sound so different. But every instrument piano or otherwise sounds different just due to tiny differences in the manufacturing process.
And you showed up.
Hamburg Steinway has clearly got subtle varieties in tone. It is definitely harder to control because it gives you more colours
@@BH-2 If my goal was tone-colour, I would not be purchasing a modern concert grand. Probably something much older. Beethoven's pathetique on historic pianoforte sounds much more colourful than today's pianos.
@@MegaMech I kind of agree and disagree with you on that. :P
I think historic pianos has a different tone rather than 'more' tone colours (if that make sense). The way older pianos were constructed, the technologies back then limited how sound is produced. Saying that, that 'sound' from ancient instruments is very nostalgic and is very attractive.
I had the chance to play and perform on fortepianos when I was a student at music college, and I think playing Beethoven on older instruments do seem a lot more 'authentic'.
I really love that mindset of yours! I used to be so sad that I don't own an acoustic piano, and people kept telling me that with a digital I wouldn't be able to make it as a pianist. But, I just learned to adapt to the sometimes very weird key action of my digital piano and even though this is no 'real' sound coming out of the piano's speakers, I realised that I can change colours and present a piece in different ways. I mean, playing on it still is different from a real piano. But, the result, the way your interpretation sounds is all that matters. So don't blame the piano (unless it's broken and really useless😅). You can grow with any instrument as a musician. Even with digital ones!🎶
Never give up❤👍
Peace out🍀
I started with a terrible electric piano. Having a good piano is important to success. But if you don't have a good teacher that properly teaches piano it doesn't matter if you had a Steinway concert grand. Don't be sad. Just work your way up to a better instrument. Unless you live in a small town, it's usually not too hard to access a decent piano once or twice a week. Church, piano in a public place, etc.
You have a great attitude and spirit! Keep it up! Some digital instruments are reasonably useable for practice up to a point. I have a Yamaha P125 which gives a fair range of colors and the perceived feel of the action can be altered by changing the touch sensitivity and volume. I find that setting the touch to hard and turnnig the volume to just below the middle I can simulate an action with a touch-response similar to a typical grand piano.
You bring out a very good point, however, and that is that a pianist must adapt to the instrument "at hand" to bring out the best musical rendition possible. Every piano is different, which obviously requires adaptation such as we're seeing with Tiffany.
(I'm a;lso an organist, and if you think pianos are different, wait til you go from one organ to another one ... !)
I play almost exclusively on my digital Kawai CA48. It's great for starting out, but it's night and day when I get the rare opportunity to play on my friend's acoustic Yamaha. I yearn for my own acoustic piano, but I don't have the space at the moment. I personally think people who are passionate about piano but only have access to a digital version would benefit from playing on acoustic pianos when they can - the aliveness, the reverb, the sound, the touch, all very different from digital. I want to compose and record one day, I wouldn't record from my digital piano, it just doesn't sound as good.
@@kalilavalezina As an academic pianist. Whether you purchase an electric piano, an upright piano, or a baby grand piano, all of them have downsides. Electric piano actions can be pretty bad. But the sound is usually decent and you never have to tune them. Baby grand pianos usually have good actions, but can sound pretty bad because the strings are so short. Upright pianos can't play very fast works.
If the action of your electric piano works fast enough to do what you need it to do, then be happy with what you have or trade it in for a different model if you find one better for around the same price. Depending how picky you are, you'll never be happy. So find something you can be mostly happy with.
I'm a gospel pianist, at the mercy of the churches across the country I play in. I've played everything from a New York D to some pretty bad uprights, so hearing a classical pianist talking about challenging herself to find the tones in a piano is fascinating because you get to pick from the best and well regulated instruments, but still you love the challenge that we church musicians hate, but it's part of our jobs. You do some amazing work!
Your recital was one of two recitals that I was able to attend that day. I enjoyed your program. Thank you for coming out here.
Tiffany, your concert Sunday was stellar! Thank you for sharing your exquisite talent with us iin San Francisco. Looking forward to your next visit!
I absolutely adore the depth of explanation you give in describing this process and all your insights in these videos. You articulate your thoughts so well, that it really completes the picture of what you’re trying to accomplish and how. Thank you for letting us live vicariously in your beautiful 🌎 ! ❤️
Welcome to SF and thanks for sharing your process. I hope you have a great first visit. Can’t wait to hear you with the Hamburg in two days! 🎹🎼
It’s so interesting to see how each piano can bring out different qualities.
Very true…
No it isn't
@@sarcastaball ???
@@andymilstenmusic8520 it is not interesting
@@sarcastaball Nobody asked for your opinion!!
Your videos remind me of a rainy day with a warm cup of tea, in a good way. Theyre so calming
Thanks to you and Steinway/S.F., for giving us a sit-in & listen-in on your playing and selection process!
It's always great to hear someone in the stratosphere of ability, testing out some music that is also in the stratosphere of composition, on a stratospheric instrument!
It just doesn't get any better. Except the actual concerts, of course!
Fred
PS. Thanks for the attributions for all the pieces. I for one, really appreciate that!
So fascinating to watch you test the pianos Tiffany - and thank you for taking us with you!!!! Oh and hearing you play beloved Scarlatti reminds me to thank you for getting me into Scarlatti too!!!! 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎵🎹🙂🙂🙂🤗😍
The position of the pianos makes for a slightly slanted comparison. But that's inconsequential when dealing with fabulous instruments like these, prepped by a skilled dealer. The Hamburg piano is reflecting off the brick wall, while the NY has another piano mostly in the way, maybe even creating some sympathetic resonance. Also, really enjoyed the playing and interpretations!
I LOVED CLASSICAL MUSIC AS A YOUTH ESPECIALLY THE PIANO BUT AS I GREW OLDER ROCK MUSIC TOOK MY FANCY AND NOW KPOP (YES!). BUT FINDING YOUR CHANNEL I RENEWED MY INTEREST IN CLASSICAL MUSIC. I ESPECIALLY LOVE YOUR TRANSPARENCY REGARDING THE EMOTIONAL JOURNEY YOU ARE TAKING, AN EXPLANATION OF YOUR TAKE ON THE PIECES YOU PLAY AND A PEEK INTO THE DYNAMICS OF THE INSTRUMENT ITSELF. YOU HELPED SAVE MY LIFE DURING A VIRTUAL LOCKDOWN DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. I KNOW YOU GET EMBROILED IN CONTROVERSY BUT I IGNORE IT. YOU HAVE DONE YOUR PART TO RENEW OR CREATE A NEW INTEREST IN CLASSICAL MUSIC. IN THIS DAY AND AGE EVERYONE FROM PRESIDENTS TO MUSICIANS MUST MAINTAIN A POSITION IN SOCIAL MEDIA IF THEY ARE TO BE RELEVANT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN REACH. IT HAS IT'S PITFALLS AND PROBLEMS BUT I LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH RUclips. PLEASE DON'T STOP; IGNORE THE NAYSAYERS. I AM ONE THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO THE FOLD FOR WHICH I AM GRATEFUL.
Beautyful editing! Once piece, two instruments, one video, perfect transitions.
Thank you, kind Miss Poon.
As you often say, you are privileged for doing what you love. In return, we are privileged for viewing from the wings.
Cannot emphasize enough the clarity of *what* you are expressing in these intimate vlogs and *how* you are doing it -- great editing, that is.
Wishing all safe, all well for tomorrow and always. Waving from Istanbul.
I love when you do these piano "comparison" videos! I remember you did this for the Mozart concertos and it really made me think about what I do/need to listen to when I play...
Your mind set on picking the piano is like an organist like myself. I accept that each pipe organ is different and so I have to adjust on what I’m dealing with and making the best sound I could on that organ. I love your video contents and your musical style. Wishing you the best on your concert tomorrow!
I must admit I have not heard of the Hamburg pianos but being as knowledgeable as you are I think you made the right choice, considering the technical things you would like to use it for and the size of the concert area. I look forward to seeing your videos as I just discovered you as a performing artist just now! You are so talented and I know it has come from lots of hard work on you part. Best of luck and continued success!
Such a great peek into what a professional pianist does to prepare for a concert. So cool to see this!
I could listen to Tiffany play on an old Wurlitzer upright and be happy. Incredible Talent and Grace. And she is BEAUTIFUL IN & OUT! God Bless Her.. 👍✊✌️❤️
Hi Tiffany, Interesting and fun; thank you for taking us along!
I really like the adjectives and words you use to describe the sound/tones, it makes it easier to fully grasp the differences. Toi toi toi for the concert!
So happy to see your vlog and your smile again.... Makes my day.....
Christina is so cool!!
i really like your videos. you are well spoken, do interesting musician things, are very talented and not a stereotypical cringe artist. as someone that has always loved classical piano, but just started playing as an adult, these videos are definitely motivating to keep getting better.
Bought some tickets to Tiffany’s concert and we’re so excited! Her playing is nothing short of exquisite and her vlogs are absolutely delightful
You seem so animated and happy out there! Getting back into the routine that you thrive in!! Have a wonderful time and a great concert!
Beautiful post by the way... the colors, the editing, the quality of the recording. Stunning!
This is my favorite type of content on this channel as well! In fact my first video was another Steinway selection vlog lol
Really fun and interesting video. Hope you tell us after the concert how you felt about the relationship of hall acoustics and piano. FWIW I’m not a musician but even on YT I thought the sound difference was obvious.
Beethoven said: "Playing with wrong notes is not important, playing with no passion is inexcusable". So don't worry for a couple of slips 😁
I have that quote in my piano room!!
@@andymilstenmusic8520 😃😎
Good thing he’s deaf
How wonderful to have a choice! You couldn't go wrong with either. Giving yourself a challenge is brave and exciting and should keep you focused during the concert. Best of luck!
Love the video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and playing both pianos.
I really appreciate your ability to compare the pianos in such a way that I can hear exactly what you are talking about! Thank you!!
Such a fun visit and a pleasure to hear your thoughts.......and I've never played a piano, hhhhmmm. Thanks so much!
Well, there is my answer. I am glad you like making these types of videos because they are my favorite too. I think it was you picking out your new Model B friend that convinced me to subscribe here. Your excitement for the opportunity and process was, and still is, very apparent.
These video's are compelling viewing. I wish I could go to one of her concerts.
From the first explorations, I felt sure you would choose the New York piano, I think it is more like your home piano. Not that it matters too much and the greater clarity of the Hamburg could have dividends in the concert hall.
Gosh, I haven't been back to piano music in a while. Thanks for introducing them with the titles!
Thakks, Tiffany Wosh I had run into you there at my local Steinway store! It was great to hear those NY and Hamburg side by side as I have been looking for an older Hamburg.. I appreciate how you wanted to learn to use the Hamburg's qualities to hone your skills. Sounded amazing. I wish I had been able to go to the Herbst to hear you live.
oh man, I'm here in SF and I'm just seeing this..I could have seen you play!! D'oh!
I love Steinway pianos so much
No doubt. You chose the right one. Not only more interesting to play but also to listen. We're not listening in order to be put to sleep (-;
Fantastic video! Loved hearing the Hamburg and the New York compared side by side like this. Also loved hearing your thought process. Hearing you reach for expression on those keys and seeing you process the differences was amazing. Feel free to share a longer version of this video if you're of a mind to do so, as it would be even more fascinating. You're a gift to us all!
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Great channel Tiffany.
So many memories coming back through the trips you invite us 🙏🏻
Looking forward to your Sunday concert.
Thanks you so much for showing us your world and thought process. I enjoyed this so much.
All the best! Hope someday I will have the privilege of seeing you in live performance. With lots of love.
So happy to see real life concert content again. Keep striving Tiffany. Wish you to fulfill every goal you have
That was a fun “speed-dating” event! Loved the Scarlatti conversation between the Hamburg and NewYork.
Hearing your rationale for the decision is so beautiful! I think I just got a new dream to see you perform live in person. Am I fan girling right now?!? 🤩
How beautiful!! Thank you for the vlog, I know it must be busy rn :)
i always love watching your thought processes in choosing pianos. i hope i'll get to see you live one day and hopefully meet you too. also would love to be able to play on a steinway one day. it's the dream
What a coincidence. On Tiffany's March Patreon Q&A I asked her a question about piano selection for each venue she plays. I assumed the venue provided the piano, but in this instance it's Steinway that steps up and gives her a choice of two of their excellent pianos. She hasn't posted her answers to the Q&A yet, but now I have a clue.
Way to go, Steinway! 👏👏
That's not always the case, some venues have multiple instruments that are theirs and you can choose from, less big venues just have 1 piano and some artists even bring their own instrument along.
@@nikkivanzanen Tiffany answered my question on Patreon. If you are not aware of it, she has a working relationship with Steinway & Sons, and if the venue has a Steinway that is what she would play. She said they usually let her know the Model type, including serial number, so she will have an idea what to expect (whether it's a New York, or Hamburg model). If all they have is another brand, they will give her the information on it.
The right one sound so cristal clear, the touch must be very sensible. I'm kinda glad you choose it ^^
Already bought the tickets to the recital!
That was cool. Have fun and good luck on Sunday!!!
Tiffany apologizing to the picture of Beethoven is exactly the type of content I'm here for.
Yeah for me it's the Hamburg without question. I get the difficulties and advantages that come with both options though. Also my option would be based on home usage, not concert
If your heart says this is what you want, just follow it. Your performance and emotions is the most important in the audience. 🔥❤️😊
The Hamburg one just sounds so much more special. A lot more body.
The New York one sounds "less Steinway" and closer to a generic brand like Yamaha (in comparison).
Hope you have a wonderful concert!!
A great window into the ever-morphing creative process. Ms. Poon indeed takes the truer artist path of wanting to rise to the challenge of having a wilder horse to ride that, if she can tame, will give her so much more reward than the staid, pleasant one that is predicted, yet has less to say. An artist is restless by nature and will choose the path of exploration and discovery. Otherwise, the artist’s soul will become stagnant, restless, and dissatisfied. The artist’s process only ends when one gives up the ghost. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you for sharing with us your experience choosing a Steinway for the concert. I think you made the right decision 🎶😉
I cannot BELIEVE I have to work tomorrow night after waiting so long for you to come to San Francisco, Tiffany. 😩 Alas, some of us musicians have to go when called, even if it's in Folsom! (Look it up!) But I just want to welcome you to the Bay Area and I sincerely hope you'll have a great concert tomorrow. Wishing you all the best. ❤💐
In the Chopin Competition (Warsaw, 2021), each competitor gets 15 minutes to choose one of the five pianos to play for their rounds. Once decided, they have to stick with their choice through the competition. The eventual winner, Bruce Liu, chose the Fazioli and reportedly knew right away that was the piano he wanted to play on for the competition. The five pianos to choose from were: a Yamaha, a Kawai, a Fazioli and two Steinways. Most of the competitors (64 or about 75%) chose to play on one of the Steinways. 9 people selected the Yamaha, 8 the Fazioli piano, and 6 the Kawai piano. Interestingly, all three "Fazioli pianists" admitted to the final round were prize winners, Bruce Liu, the first prize; Martin Garcia Garcia, the third prize; Leonora Armellini, the fifth prize. The second prize winner Alexander Gadjiev, played a Kawai, as well as JJ Jun Li Bui the sixth prize winner. As some people have commented, the age of Steinway is almost over.
very interesting! Thanks for sharing that. I'm also wondering when pianos with alternate-sized (narrower) keyboards will become avaialable as choices (already available in some competitions)
Fazioli piano's are wonderful instruments. My piano tuner is the Fazioli dealer for Belgium. The amount of detail in both the finishing and regulation is astonishing. And I'm proud to say that the chief technician who regulated and maintained the Fazioli grand at the Chopin competition was Ortwin Moreau.
Both pianos sound gorgeous but it's surprising how different they can be! Fascinating!
Awesome video, worth to watch and recommend. And yes, you made the correct choice (given the fact that you had 2 days to get used to it)- that Hamburg has wider color range and better sound projection, good for the venue which, (from what I saw), might have dry-ish acoustics. So cool that you could choose a piano for your concert. Most young pianists have to work with what they got. Best wishes for a successful recital!!
love the way you play such a an amazing style!
like you said: its all about setting and repertoire, and you absolutely right about combination of New Yorker and Chopin.
Apart from anything else, I love the edits in this. I agree with your final choice. In bocca al lupo !
great Video! your playing is so relaxing.
Interesting that an instrument will challenge you to get the best out of it. Never thought of a Piano like that before. Fascinating.
these are my fav type of vids from your channel!
I learn so much both from the self-directing annotation/comments as well as the nonjudgmental way in which they're offered. Just seeing you do approach the instrument and little insights like "not together enough" or "need to be closer to the keys" feels like a private lesson.
I love when you do piano picks, truly fascinating to me.
I can definitely hear the difference, the Hamburg is the great choice! So much brighter and fitting for your repertoire. :-) Good luck, Tiffany! ♫
To compare these pianos to the two great violin makers, Stradivari and Guarneri Del Gesu: I would say the the New York (left) piano is more like a Strad, in that it is warm with a full sound, isn't too harsh, still speaks clearly. It's very colourful. The Hamburg (right) piano is more like a Guarneri del Gesu: it speaks and says "I'm HERE!" haha. It has a brilliance in tone, is very responsive, bright, (seemingly) louder than the other piano and seems to be a piano made for encores rather than deeper repertoire.
I could be wrong, but this is just the way I see and hear it!
The biggest difference (on this video) is due to one piano being closer to the microphone. There seem to be other obvious differences but is very hard to judge from unequal micing.
Disagree
2 feet isn’t enough to space to warrant that argument
Interesting video. I prefer a piano with warm tones and exquisite, deep base. It's my job, as a pianist, to make the piano "talk/speak" with emotion, happy, sad, calm, excited. Aren't pianos WONDERFUL!
Was it Rachmaninoff looking so interestedly from the painting when you explained your choice? So cool. And also good to see you in such excellent spirits before your concert. Best of luck!
Yes, it was!
First impressions (a few mins in), the piano on the right is brighter, they're both beautiful, but I think I prefer the left side, It's very slightly thicker, but the margin of preference is tiny, either in isolation are 'perfect', you need to hear them call an respond to hear the difference.
Never knew that picking out a piano could be so much fun. Have more fun on Sunday!
I love the clear melody of Hamburg. Ich mag ihn sehr ;) Thx for sharing your experience.
I wish I could hear the difference in the concert hall so bad
Good choice. It would be tough for me as well to pick. Both are beautiful. I would have made the same choice as you and got the German one. I like a brighter piano with more clarity. Enjoy having a sensitive action.
Love watching your videos. I couldn't tell any difference though 🤣🤣 as I'm a beginner
I think you made a great choice. The seating and the people in the concert hall will take the edge off the piano tone so I think you made the right choice. I feel that the Hamburg piano will respond better to accuracy and precision. It will be a hard taskmaster.
I love these kind of videos!!! For my taste, I prefer the Hamburg Steinway; I feel you can get more of a variety of tone colors out of this piano over the New York Piano
Agree.
I hear u n ur the professional much success with ur concert but for me ( n wish I could play 1000th as great as u ) I play for my own enjoyment when no one’s around or with my headphones when I moved in with my daughter n family I treated myself to a Roland didgital in the case looks just like a piano n 3 pedals n I’m very happy with it I miss my Wurlitzer console tho n if I could have I would have tried to find a used one anyway my only in my dreams I would like the cozy NY model when I finally go to my heavenly Home maybe there will be one waiting for me n I can play to my hearts content for my Grandmother who is already there she’s the one me my 2 pianos years ago Tiffany I love watching u play especially anything Chopin ur a lovely young woman who is a credit to the classical concert world luv from Pamela NC Merry Xmas 🙋🏼♀️🎅🏻🎄🎼🎹❤️
They both sound Incredible !
Very interesting video. I liked it that the Hamburg model spoke German. 😂
Ja, das war sehr Cool hahahaha😂😂🤣🤣
Fun fact, if you like: You can tell the difference between a New York and Hamburg Steinway model D at a glance. Easy to see from 1:55 to 6:53 if you look closely on full screen 1080p. Spoiler below.
The arms at the ends of the keyboard are square (NY) or rounded (Hamburg).
The inside of the rim is black (NY) or Rosewood (Hamburg).
It seems this doesn't apply to recent model Bs. Tiffany's is from New York but has the case features of a Hamburg model. The Julliard model Bs in Tiffany's early videos have the New York features.
Tiffany, it the ‘New York.’ It has a flat timber across the keyboard, while maintaining musicality!🎹
flat timbre across the keyboard, while retaining musicality.
Well I didn't have a chance to test a Hamburg but I can tell instantly from your video why people love them so much. I've played a few D's at dealers and they were all missing something you can hear from the Hamburg one. The salespeople will tell you over and over again "it'll sound better over time!" Pretty disappointing that they aren't more easily available in the US.
Luckily there are rebuilders out there who can get that Hamburg quality out of an NY Steinway...
It’s cool that you are choosing the challenging Piano with more „Risk and Reward“ ;)
It sorely needed regulation... and should have been properly prepped for such a gifted and accomplished pianist...
@@ShirleyKirsten I agree ...
definitely the Hamburg one, it sounds absoltely amazing in a concert hall.
Very excited. Thanks 😁
It’s interesting to see how the pianos differentiate from each other.
yeah, like each one has its own personality!
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I was rooting for you to pick the bright piano. And when you did
I was jumping on my bed.