Marine Corps Aviation pipeline explained and what to expect as a contract pilot in the USMC.
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2020
- The Aviation component is one of the few choices that can be guaranteed to you from your OSO (as long as you meet the criteria). In this video, special guest and CH-53E pilot, Captain Sewell explains what the pipeline looks like. Typically speaking, an aviation contract is approximately 10 years since the training pipeline takes around 4 years. The aviation contract is available for both the PLC and OCC options. Like always, let me know if you have any questions or if you need me to connect you with Magic or any other aviator for that matter.
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Could you do a video on preparing for the ASTB? Thanks
The US is so blessed to have men like you looking out for our best interests!!!
Thank you Captain Dubon for presenting this topic! I've been following this channel for about six months now and this is exactly what I wanted to know as far as aviation is concerned. Thank you Captain Sewell for sharing this information!
Extremely informative. Thanks.
Great video, super helpful.
Best video out at the moment!!! Thanks for this invaluable upload!!!!
This looks awesome
Thank you for the information! I've been watching your videos for a while now and feel prepared because of the content you've produced. I recently got selected as an aviation contract for PLC and look forward to OCS this summer.
how did it go? I'd love to get your experience on it, I'm currently researching for a project
thanks
How did it work out? I graduate in a month and plan to fly in the Navy or Marine Corp.
How is the marine pilot life treating you?
Educative and informative
What is the completion rate from start to finish? And if not significantly high, where do most candidates fail or come up short?
Anyone interested in becoming a Marine Corps aviator should get an Air Contract up front. You are then assured of attending flight school (as long as you graduate OCS and TBS, which are accomplishments in their own right).
If you don't have an Air Contract, it's still possible to choose flight school during MOS selection at The Basic School, but the number of aviation slots will depend on the "needs of the service." In my son's TBS class, so many second lieutenants were in the aviation pipeline that only one or two second lieutenants were chosen to join them at flight school. The remaining aviation-qualified second lieutenants (who did not have an Air Contract) had to select another MOS.
Can you please do one on the PLC Law program?
Excellent info. Thank you gentlemen.
how well do you have to know how to swim to pass the 6 month course? I struggle at swimming but I will get better and practice if thats what it takes, I was just asking because I was just curious, thanks.
What is the age requirement for the pilot training after commissioning ?
I asked this on a reply to another video, but since my question is directly related to the aviation path; is the maximum age of 27 1/2 non waiverable? I have 4 years active duty prior service in the Marine Corps, but I'm 30 now, coming up on 31. Got out as an E5 because I didn't feel my MOS suited me, went to college with no real direction in life, feeling pretty lost, and I've always been interested/somewhat obsessed in flying helos. I hate myself for not figuring out what I really wanted to do sooner. Am I too late?
Leiðulfr Link aviation is also waiverable. Talk to the OSO
Can we get a video like this for ground I want to be a infantry officer or ground intelligence officer
I’m interested in intel, too- it’s fun to see people online with common interests
Silly Saman yep I like intell but I still want a infantry life also
Hello gentlemen PFC here. I was wondering if I could get into further contact with Magic about being a pilot. I am at NAS Pensacola and now want to become a piet in the Marine corps. But would like to get my ducks in a row before putting all my time and effort into something that wont pan out.
Is there anything else that gets tested on physically besides the PFT
CFT at OCS. Expect annual qualification tests for both the PFT and CFT (CFT every 6 months)
I'm going to go fill out an OCS package, and I would love nothing more to be a pilot. Unfortunately I don't have 20/20 vision.
You don’t need 2020 vision. Just 2020 corrected even then you could get a pass
Talk to your OSO. In my son's case, he had vision correction surgery first, waited 6 months before getting his NAMI physical at NAS Pensacola, then attended OCS and TBS. He's now in flight school at NAS Pensacola.
Great video. Does prior service and civilian pilot training help your chances in getting a slot?
From what I've heard, flight experience really helps your application. I didn't have any but did well enough on the ASTB to get selected.
My son just left for MEPS today. He did the PiCat ASVAB and scored 93%. He wants avionics. He has some college behind him but not a Bachelor's yet. Can someone share with me if & how he would get to pilot from enlisted avionics? I'm assuming one cannot choose a pilot path without going to OCS? I'm just wondering in case he decides on this after bootcamp.
He would have to get a bachelors degree and go to OCS at some point. An Avionics degree does not give him an advantage or disadvantage to become a Marine pilot.
I really wanna become a pilot, but in all honesty I can’t decide between the marines and Air Force, I want to be able to travel, don’t want to sit at a desk. I also want to go enlisted for a bit before I try to be an officer that way I have some experience. Anyone have any advice?
What do I do for preparation academically for this? Or do I just have to absorb the information taught then and there?
Barnes and Nobles has study guides for the ASTB-E
Can you change from an Infantry officer to a pilot in the Marines? If not, is there a chance to fight in the infantry as a Pilot?
Also do Marine pilots deploy to Aircraft Carriers or to Afghanistan,Iraq,etc.?
If I’m not mistaken, Marine aviation squadrons are typically assigned to amphibious assault ships, not carriers. And that in normally in a MEU capacity. They also deploy to land as well, (I.E. Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, that sort of thing). Their whole point is to provide support to boots on the ground, so they will follow wherever the infantry goes. Once you are already in, it would be pretty much impossible to switch to a pilot route, but if you haven’t gone through any formal training yet, you should be able to switch your contract if you’re good enough to make the cut.
What exam is needed to be a Marine Pilot in 2022..?
I know this is late, OSO’s can guarantee a flight contract if you qualify? Is this still valid information?
Bro I’m interested in doing this in the Marines then going in to the Air Force I wanna be WSO or Osprey pilot….
@william nguyen because i want to do both i want 2 join 2 branches
So once in your fleet you don’t have to move your family anymore ? Just deployments ?
Once your in the fleet, you can expect to change duty stations every three years, this is not including deployments.
Hello there, it’s a really interesting and helpful video. Thank for sharing.
How can I get the PowerPoint, I’m looking for your email but I don’t find it.
Thanks for the help.
Thank you sir
Since the pilot pipeline is very long. Can your spouse come with you to pilot training?
Sure can
Hello Capt-
Do I select the aircraft that I want to fly?
For example, if I wanted to fly f-18s would I pick that or do I get assigned to an aircraft
No.. You get your specific aircraft at flight school based upon the needs of the Marine Corps and class standing.
@@warriorspath9511 oh ok so it is based on how good I do in flight school and what the Corps needs. Do I still choose between rotaries, fixed and heavy?
Good Afternoon,
A little introduction about me is I’m currently enlisted in the Marine Corps E - 3 LCpl. I aspire to be an officer and I would love an aviation contract so that I may have a chance at flying a jet. I’m currently taking online college and at the rate I’m going I should be able to get my B.A. before I EAS. I also want to retake the ASVAB. I want to become an aviation officer, after reading my introduction what is it you think I should be doing in order to reach my goal? I also wear glasses is this a disqualifier?
I'll bite. If you just want to fly, go to another branch. If you want to be a Marine Officer, go ask for an air contract and take it from there.
You can get a waiver for the glasses
How can we contact you?
Question. Do you choose what type of helicopter you want to fly?
I’m not him but I can answer no you don’t but you put in order of what you want to fly. Ultimately it’s what they need but if you score high in flight school you have a better chance getting a aircraft you would like. Also no gaurtee that you would get helicopter
@@nolanpianalto4733 thanks
Are reserve marines eligible for occ air?
Bobby Liu they are
Thank you sir, I graduated college already and decided to enlist in the reserves before going Officer.
Do Naval Academy graduates still need to go through OCS?
They do not
@@warriorspath9511 lucky
Condors carryin the weight as usual. Ruh
I already enlist into the marines I ship out in February 2021 I scored an 61 in the asvab. With that score can I still become an officer?
Captain Rocko13 you’ll need a 74 on your asvab or take the SAT/ACT to qualify.
Warriors Path Am I still able to take the ASVAB during my career in the marines if I really wanted to become an officer? Also don’t you have to take both asvab and sat/act to qualify?
Well are there still ways or a chance for me to become an officer throughout my career while I enlist?
Captain Rocko13 yes you can still become an officer. You need to obtain a college degree from an accredited university or college and improve your ASVAB score those are the two big things. But yes You still have plenty of time to pursue that goal too. And thank you for your service!
DarkwingDumb 1 thank you so much! I already chose my MOS.
The recruiter is telling me that I can't get aviation signed into my contract? Is this something new? Has it changed since you made the video?
Officer recruiter? It's still a guarantee.
@@warriorspath9511 no, maybe that's why. He was going to put me in touch with the officer recruiter on Monday.
@@warriorspath9511 what are the height requirements for fighter pilots and pilots in general? I'm 6'3 so I've been worried about this
@@buckleuputile2395 Email Magic but I'm pretty confident that 6'3 is fine. I've put in pilots taller than 6'3. I've had one person denied but it was because they were too short. 4'11.
I would like to get more information on becomi an aviator. Could I get your email to contact you? Thanks.
How can I contact you, I can't find your email
Question, do you pick a track or are you assigned a track based off of scores in pilot training?
Your chosen aviation platform is based on your performance during flight training.
@@warriorspath9511 did you attend? I'm working on a script for a production company on this and would love to get insider stories.
@@Dreammovieofficial I still lurk around. Feel free to reach out 6193689965
Where were you 20 years ago 😫
As a LCpl somewhere getting slayed. lol
When do you take the OCS? During college or do you have to enlist first? Also, how would I apply for OCS?
During college you can apply for the PLC program. Google your local OSO (Officer Selection Officer) and give them a call. I did PLC 10 week because I had one semester left. If you’re a sophomore/jr, you’ll end up doing 2 six week sessions for a total of 12 weeks. (6 weeks one summer then 6 weeks another summer). You don’t need to enlist first.
@@GotPoopWeScoop Thanks, I actually found this out a few days ago, but thanks for taking time to respond
@@Retro-mr8dc yup let me know if you got any questions, I’m an air contract at tbs rn
did you attend? I'm working on a script for a production company on this and would love to get insider stories.
@gotpoopwescoop1000
Do you think having a degree in something like Mechanical Engineering makes you a better pilot
Certainly will give you an edge on academics and study habits.
It would be interesting to learn what marines think about the Osprey and what officers who drive the Osprey think about the platform. I don't know specific statistics without digging some up, but in the news media it I have the impression there is a significantly higher rate of crashes and associated fatalities with respect to those unusual looking transport aircraft. Of course the impression I have can be completely unfounded, and mostly due to misleading information pumped out by the not-too-forthcoming mainstream media we're all stuck with until drastic changes take place.
If you don't mind having a retired Air Force officer (we in the AF have V-22 Osprey's serving with our AFSOC units btw) helping to answer your question. Your assumption is correct, however it is based on very old (nowadays) (and maybe somewhat biased published info in the main media, as you already have said). It is very true that the Osprey program did have a lot of teething issues as the aircraft was being developed from a clean - sheet design. So much so in-fact that the development program was halted for a number of years due to major safety concerns, if I remember correctly, with the wing gearbox design, which required substantial re-design. And yes, most certainly, there were a number of fatal Osprey crashes during the aircrafts research & development, flight testing, and initial fielding years. This aircraft did kill a (inordinate ??) number of people. But again those crashes all occurred during it's very early years during the R&D and flt. testing phases of development. Sadly, that is why someone has to flight test new aircraft, esp. with ones coming from clean sheet designs----though truth be told, the Osprey was not entirely a clean sheet as the AF and US Army had been kicking around the vertical to horizontal flight thing since the mid 1950's I believe. The technology just was not mature enough back then to do a lot with it except for govt. contractors producing prototype demonstration aircraft of various configurations.
I served in suburban Wash DC in the later 90's and lived in Southern Maryland, which gave me the occasion every once and awhile to skip on down to nearby NAS PAX River and watch the test pilots work with this aircraft. However, by then, most of the previous Osprey "bugs" had already been worked out. Moving forward since at least the early 2000's when this aircraft was now at full-rate production and was beginning to be fully fielded and subsequently deployed to the Iraqi conflict, the Osprey has proved it self to be a very good, stable, efficient, and well performing aircraft. It has speed capabilities that no heavy-lift helicopter can match. The Osprey has performed very well in desert conditions, and it continues to do so. The Osprey is performing all over the world now very well. Japan is flying the Osprey now. The USN will be fielding a version of the Osprey to replace their ageing Greyhound COD aircraft fleet in the years to come
Now that the Osprey is fully fielded, like with any other operational aircraft, there have been other more recent Osprey aircraft incidents/accidents that have come along with the passage of time. However these mishaps are not occurring at any greater rate than any other mishap military aircraft that is in the inventory. Overall today, the Osprey has proven itself to be a very good & capable aircraft for the USAF and USMC. It just had terrible teething problems. That all being said, I'll stick with my old, reliable, and trusty C-130 thank you very much. I prefer having 4 engines, and the whole concept of having to rely on just 2 gearbox's to transfer the aircraft (one that I do not believe can autorotate in an emergency ??) from controlled vertical to mid-air horizontal flight is still something I am not ready for yet.
helo pilot? bottom of the class
You give it a try.
What are you flying?