MODIFIED CHURCH ORGAN TALKS LIKE A HUMAN - I Bought A Church Organ Part 6
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0:42 Your impression of internet "experts" is always so funny 🤣
I think he's actually mimicking some old folks he met in real life that thought he was insane for trying this. I have met people that sound like that. They think they are looking out for you, warning you how complicated it is. They just didn't realize exactly who they were talking to.... You don't go about tackling a big organ like this unless you've already got a big organ.... somewhere...
@@johnsmithe4656 A pair of them, actually.
Sounds a bit like a channel now lost to time called 'youtube pedant'
@@VanWinger found that channel earlier by chance actually
he seems to have switched over to the Techmoan channel
When the organ said “I am feeling alive” I got a chill down my spine. GLaDOS has been brought to life in the real world
I AM AN ORGAN
Heh. It does have a certain GLaDOSsy tone, doesn't it? =:o}
He needs to make it sing that song...
The way how the organ talks about its origins is very GLaDOS esque. Especially when it was talking about being destroyed
@@ablancer3582 Now Sam has to make it (her?) sing "Still Alive". That would be something!
You certainly don't mess about... The talking organ ending was quite genius. It's alive 😱
Posy!
Ofc you are here! Love your videos!
I think it could have been done in a different way, but I don't know if it's possible to do this automatically... at the part where the organ is put together, around 9:17 you can see the pipes having different timbres. Without the upper part, a tone similar to an "uh" is generated at 9:17, and then, when the upper part gets stuck in, the sound generated shifts towards an "o"... I thought the speech would be generated this way, but instead, it was generated by playing multiple notes at once. And then there doesn't seem to be a way to properly do the unvoiced parts... the "s" and "t" and so on.
I think now you're officially the only RUclipsr who has his own church organ.
👍
Love your videos and interesting beautiful music!
So, for those of us who love organs, started with Zeppelin, and then an old radio show on NPR where they would go to old churches and play and record them. To someone who never had much electrical training or work but was always fascinating by it. I began watching your channel for the electronics but the seeing what you can do at your museum, you are probably one of the only humans alive who could bring this old church organ back to life!!! It is amazing and you are amazing!!!
You said zeppelin and "your time is gonna come" immediately popped into my head. Absolutely one of their best tracks and the organ intro is awesome. I can totally see why organs would inspire you
I think the "talking" actually sounds better than the piano versions I've heard
I agree; it's more intelligible without the attack of the hammers from the piano adding extra unneeded transients; this gives cleaner sine-like waves to build the overtones with.
@@Brok3nC4rrot ah, so this is additive synthesis?
Absolutely! It's like we humans speak with a column of air moving over the vibrating surface rather than a felt hammer striking a couple of wires! It sounds better than Stephen Hawking as well. I guess it was a bit impractical for him, though.
@@professornuke7562 it’s not really voice synthesis though. This process starts with a recording of someone speaking the sentence. It does not synthesise anything, it just plays it back in a really convoluted way. It doesn’t really have anything to do with the kind of voice synthesis used by Stephen Hawking.
It's mildly disturbing how close it sounds to Sam's voice ;)
You're resurrecting a physical representation of love, my dude. Very appropriate. Dang story makes me tear up a bit every time I think about it. Even if 'Joan's Organ' has a bit of a funny ring.
yeah, no
Looong ago, I saw a large church organ at Goodwill Industries' " Bargain Barn" ( the last stop for items that didn't sell in their retail stores ). It was Baldwin model 5 electronic organ with a large separate speaker cabinet (someone had removed the 8 12" drivers, dang'em! ). When I asked how much time I had to decide to buy it, the warehouseman looked at his watch and answered " oh, about 25 minutes, because it's scheduled for the dump tomorrow!"I bought it for $50 U.S., took it home and hooked it up to an old console stereo and the whole family used it for years. I then moved to another location that hadn't enough space for it ( neither did the moving van ), and an older sister took it for HER family to use. Several years after that, her local church was starting a organ fundraiser for their new "sattelite" church. My sister invited the pastor to dinner. Sly one that she is, she'd already got her family to agree to donate the organ to their church if the pastor accepted it. When the pastor arrived for dinner, there was a giant red satin bow tied around the organ and a note stating " God does indeed work in mysterious ways!". Upon reading the card, the pastor shed a few tears as he tested the organ. He stood, and accepted the gift for his church.
The moral of the story: NEVER treat a working thing like trash! It may have taken 6 YEARS for the organ to find it's proper home, but by GOD it finally did.
@@bobgarske9579 and then the church was saddled with having to get yet another appliance when that one died.
I was not expecting to recognise Sam's voice through the Organ-coder, that's pretty amazing how it retains the character of the original voice
You could definitely tell it was him and he was trying to speak clearly so it would sound as good as possible
@@amfoy5919 Yeah lol.. he was doing his best "speaking to an old person on the phone" voice, enunciating very carefuly
I'm not that good at hearing those things but your comment gave me joy to know it was Sam's voice.
Same! Astonishing
The Piano-coders I've listened to don't sound nearly this good and coherent
I dont think this organ couldve had a better new owner. Amazing job!
That ending made me smile from ear to ear 😁This project is amazing, congratulations.
We all knew the instrument had a soul, and it was happy, never thought I would actually hear the organ talk, what a project.
"Look around you, I have never been more alive!"
Almost had me laughing, pretty cool, eh?
I for one bow down to our sentient organ overlord.
absolutely second that 🙂
As a software dev and pipe organ nerd, your series about giving "an old lady" a new home and breath of life (yeah, literally...) is one of the most valuable ones for me.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for saving it from the scrapyard and providing access to it to anyone at your museum!
And, if you're curious how current music (VGM, to be exact) can still benefit from its beauty, please feel free to join my next weekend's play-along live stream -- Witcher III + organ awaits! :)
Oh my god, hearing you pull those reeds into tune;
You NEED to make a THX deep note cover with the full organ 😂
Love the progress fellow Sam!
You do our namesake proud.
The THX Deep Note is actually pretty difficult to reproduce, the organ would probably need to be specifically tuned for it.
@@ryankrage77 I get that, but a best attempt would still sound pretty intense I bet.
An alternative would be J.S. Bach - Toccata and Fugue in D minor's Opening Resolution 😅 once all the pipes are in of course
@@ryankrage77 it's pretty reasonable to synthesize but you need an instrument capable of portamento, you start at a couple dozen random tones and then slowly slide them all into the big chord at the end
Wow, you literally made it talk. Any chance of museum attendees being able to get it to say things, or perhaps talk to it? Could be a lot of fun to hook up an "Eliza" style chat bot to a text-to-speech engine so the pipe organ could have conversations with people.
Sam would create the most amazing interactive museum of art
Wait... You're telling me that's what this is?!? That's so fucking cool omg
BRILLIANT idea! This would combine two of the most fascinating inventions from different eras and disciplines (mechanical vs. electronic). I'd love to see/hear that in action.
What I love about this series is seeing in practice that a 'lost art' can be re-discovered. There's hope that with good hard work, keen understanding, and a penchant for experimentation and you can re-acquire a skills lost to time. The lights are a fantastic addition. It really helps show how the machine works.
Dude you are keeping history ALIVE! Your channel has really evolved into something greater than yourself and I love your energy. Great job.
"I'm glad I'm being reused instead of being recycled." No joke, that almost made me cry. I love that you were able to rescue this amazing instrument and get it going again. It's unquestionably a massive undertaking, and to see you push with determination through the tedious parts, and then exult in the fun parts, it really brings me joy.
Ha! Imagine if the organ started talking like this when it was first installed. I bet there were a ton of people back then who would obey its commands without question!
"I am god" lol
@@TheInsultInvestor When someone asks you if you're a *God*, you say "YES"!
I love what you are doing, I play the pipe organ but never imagined it could be made to talk, hearing it tell its story, is quite emotional 🙂
very its like KITT
play one with a Vox Humana rank of pipes
Heck yes it was for the best. Amazing that the organ bested the church it came out of by nearly half a century. Would have been a pity for it to get ripped apart and tossed. BTW, I'm pretty sure lead is a major component of those pipes, so do take care to clean your hands. 👍
he put his mouth on a few of them, there is no turning back 👀
Loving this. In case you don't know, this is called an extension chest, as it extends the Trumpet 8' rank so it can be played an octave lower on the pedal; I would expect a stop on the console called Trombone 16. It was probably available an octave above as well, called Clarion 4'.
This is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen! This beautiful old, talking organ definitely ended up with the right owner! 🤘🎹🤘
That combined reed and pipe sound is just glorious! That's the sound of a church organ right there
Well, fancy meeting *you* here! =:o]
Just brilliant Sam, i like it and really like the LEDs lighting up when a note is played. For a guy that everyone said " you don't know what your doing" you sure seem to know what you are doing! Well done, Again.
hah! the secret is of course that you don't give up and do it anyway! nobody knows what they're doing really. it's how you cope with that that makes the difference, and Sam has the perfect qualities in that regard: persistent, relaxed, and most importantly, a good sense of humor!
"They came and ripped me apart."
Your words cut deep, deeper than any blade ever could. 😭
Really loving this series, it's a long series but it's emotionally beautiful
That's brilliant!!! 😂
To be honest, I'm loving RUclips like I never thought I would. In the past few months I've watched people rebuild a church organ, dig tunnels under their home, try to make dry pasta from scratch, and all sorts of things you would never get to see otherwise!
Yes, RUclips has a light side and a dark side. If you can find the light side then you are in for a real treat and some great education! If you find the dark side.... god rest your soul.
Do we subscribe to the same channels? 'Look mom no computer', 'Collin Furze' and 'Alex' or 'French guy cooking'. There's so much fun stuff to see/listen/experience.
Fugue in G minor! One of my faves!!😊
“Sam, you don’t know what you are doing!!!!!!”😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😝😜🤪
Good on you mate! I’m going to have to visit the museum one of these days.
I really loved how when tuning that first pipe, you could hear the resonance click into place :) reminds me of partials on a brass instrument, you could bend the pitch with your face, but the instrument doesnt let you go far out of those resonant open tones!
I always love when he mocks the concern trolls.
At this rate the Organ will need its own channel! Coming soon: “Look Mom No Composer”
It will start own podcast 😅
@@loco-motiiv2460 or start rapping
Subbed.
Shut up and take my money
he really could, just upload modern songs taken from midi, with the different camera angles of the pipes with the lighting. its just spectacular. I want that to happen so badly. He'd get so many views I dont know why he wouldn't. He could employ a team to do it easily and his revenue would be through the roof.
Impressive! Very cool that you were able to make the organ "talk". Also, it's very cool that there is someone, such as yourself, who holds an interest in purchasing and repairing an old pipe organ. Your creativity and craftsmanship is extraordinary. Thank you for sharing these videos.
With each update I'm more impressed of all the work you managed to to get the thing operational again.
The lights make it extra fancy, I cant wait to see what other improvements you intend to add.
I love it, what an insane project! If you want to go deeper into voice simulation, or any sound for this matter, you could try to take into acount the timbre of each pipe. That would mean having an audio recording of each individual pipe to get the frequency spectrum of them (or of each grouping of pipe and then pitch shift), and then process audio signal -such as voice- in order to compute a midi file that, once played on your organ, would match even better human voice. Since the organ has such a wide array of timbre across the pipes, this method may produce a more refined speech-like result. Anyway, i really love your work :)
id love to see that happen.
I'm sure there's at least one creator out there that has the skills and interest for this. In terms of the integration, maybe Mark Rober knows someone? Could also go with CodeBullet if it gets computationally expensive, a neural network may help here. I've got no idea as for the audio processing though, any ideas?
@@darthstatic it's not that big of a project, straigthforward audio processing and the crafting of a simple algorithm won't require extreme software engineering
@@darthstatic a neural net would definitely do it
I made an attempt at this a couple years ago but the results were not amazing. Does anyone have pointers on implementation? I did it in Supercollider but a general overview with any tools would be helpful.
Wow, tuning each of those was intense. That's a truly massive project you've taken on, man.
The work that you've done with this project is amazing! There's a lot going on in that grey matter of yours.
The more I learn about this thing the more blown away I am with the technology involved
They used to build contraptions like this back in the 1500s.... of course without the tech. Back in the day you had to have someone pump the bellows for you. What a job.
Your amount of energy for these projects is always so stunning to see!
there's something particularly satifying in the tuning when you get the right tone for the reeds.
Yes it is always is satisfying to hear a pipe come into tune
My hands are itching to touch that thing! Wonderful job!
Edit: I'm originaly a pianist, but I was allowed to play the organ at the local church whenever I liked. So my first day was all about trying the registers. Those trumpets are loud! First time playing them actually spooked me, they were so loud. But when you get used to it they are really cool.
"But I knew it was for the best."
... Honestly, it really was; not much else like this on the planet.
MIDI Organ? Sure. One with this history that's been installed in 2 places that aren't a church or cathedral?
Kinda-a-thing.
It's nothing but the most extreme version of "buying a used piano", combined with the most extreme version of buying a vintage synth, and the most extreme version of buying an old electro-mechanical keyboard, all in one.
there is a video of a big church with MIDI organ. they actually didn't realize the organ had the ablity to connect to a computer. they then got it hooked up and realized how much future proofing that the organ had.
ruclips.net/video/SQHdFAm7g7E/видео.html
@@Kafj302 That's Rob Scallon's video, I think. IIRC they played necrophagist through it.
That Bach with the bass reeds sounded glorious! Nice balance of sound as well, I was expecting the reed to dominate the rest of the instrument. Nice touch with the hymn board as well.
Are you planning on going back and retrofitting LEDs to the first pipes? Would be so cool if you did.
It sounds more like a real organist at work than any of the other MIDI recordings so far! (I think the file itself is better too, pretty good technique as far as those go.)
Sam, I don't know you personally, but I am as proud of you as if you were my own kid.
Great work, man. I appreciate that you have worked so hard and so long to conserve this piece of history.
11:28 makes me think back to all the hate you got touring the old keyboard museum when you were mashing the hell out of the keys on those beautiful relics. Look at you now. Mash those keys my friend, you know they can handle it, you've built beyond a beautiful machine here. Props and thank you for everything you've shown us
And I typed this before making it to the end. What an amazing thing to see this piece be able to speak it's history. It's sentient now Sam. Take well care of it!!
Always tune against a 4' principal and always use that same rank as reference. That's what organ tuners do - you'll find it easier and get better results.
Yeah but it works. Right now since the console is not plugged in I tune it to as it comes. In the end of the day anything that isn’t life threatening is all up for debate :D
You dont need a 4' principal when you've got a whole museum full of electronic oscillators including hand held keyboards.
@@jmcarp0 Well, no, you do, or it's better. As a matter of physical fact, you can never tune a pipe perfectly against a reference - there will always be some deviation. Let's say you can get it within 1 Hz. If you tune two pipes of the same pitch against an electronic reference, and each pipe is up to 1 Hz out, then the two pipes can be 2 Hz out with respect to each other. If instead you take one pipe as reference and tune another pipe against it, the two pipes will be up to 1 Hz out with respect to each other. It is less important whether each note is in tune according to some mathematically perfect reference; it's far more important that all the pipes at the same pitch internally agree.
Also, pitch changes with temperature, and all the flue pipes drift more or less together. If you tune everything against an electronic reference, then by the time you finish tuning the last rank, it is likely that the temperature has changed, so that the last rank does not agree with the first rank.
The organ building world is super backwards in general and is ripe for modernisation. But certain things are grounded in physics and won't change with improved technology. Replacing antiquated pneumatic parts with solenoid valves - great. Tuning everything against a digital tuner - bad. Basically, need to understand things properly and make informed changes.
Absolutely fantastic! Is there any chance we could see a rendition of Rush E when it's all done?
The mocking of the nay saying comments are some of my favorites. Maybe a series of shorts with just mocking nay saying comments.
The talking organ was really good. Every word was loud and clear, even without reading the subtitles.
Sam, been a subscriber for years now, love your work. Imagine the look on the original installers of the organ in the church if they were able to see that last segment of the video. What a fantastic application, I enjoyed that very much.
A cool idea would be if you put some transparent sheets in front of the pipes' air chambers instead of the wood. Then we would be able to watch those beautiful bellow and solenoid valves in action!
+1
I think that the least the bellows are exposed to light, the better
@@bacicinvatteneaca Keep them out of direct sunlight, if course, but I don't think the light from a few LEDs is going to harm them at all.
@@johnm2012 Over time it can absolutely cause damage. That's a big part of why museums are constantly changing which items are on display and regularly restoring items, so no one item is exposed to light continuously for decades.
the sound would change lol
I'm pretty certain that this is the spirit of the computer from the 80s film Electric Dreams. Great to see he's back with us, warms my heart! This is just outstanding...
Man, that reed at 7:10 is perfectly in tune with the guy running his chainsaw next door! haha
I think the spirit of the previous owner is watching over you while you put this together, in absolute fascination and appreciation for restoring and making great use of such elite vintage technology. this is soooooo good to watch
That is cool!!! I always love the pipe organ ever since i heard J. S. Bach's 'Tocatta and Fugue in D minor'! My wife doesnt like Bach, but i blasted it over my Marshall double stack amp and it was awesome(till my wife tried to yell to me and unplugged it).
Cant wait to see it all assembled!
Why does your wife not like Bach?
I said "What the fuck" loud into the room... as the organ stopped talking...
This is so absurdly beautiful i cant find words... watching the whole series from start to finish and im flabbergasted again and again by the work you have put into this. Plain awesome!
I’m so glad you rescued this organ, it’s such a noble endeavour.
Just WOW! I am loving this project, it just goes to show what can be achieved with ward work mixed with genius and madness.
I've been watching your channel for some time and came to the conclusion that you are not only a bit mad you're also a seriously talented young man, the work you do is really special.
Watching this Organ series now tells me you are completely bat sh*t crazy. (in a nice way)
Brilliant video, you Sir deserve a medal for this work. I love watching this crazy restoration and rescue of an incredible instrument.
I will most certainly make my way to the museum to see you and your crazy world in the near future.
The videos you produce are very special to see and the work you do is remarkable. xx
Wouldn't have thought a series on an old church organ could be so interesting and captivating. I agree with Joan's Organ - very glad you are reusing this old beast and didn't let it go to the scrap yard!
Watching this series feels like being on another planet, in a good way.
I love this project so much. What a sound, what incredible effort!
This is such a fantastic series. I'm so excited for you and jealous that you have your very on huge pipe organ. It's an incredible instrument. Thanks for documenting the process! The talking piano thing is insane.
The combination of old and new technologies is really stunning. There's no way anyone involved with the building of the organ originally had any idea you could get it to ....talk 🤩
Never thought I'd hear an organ speak like a Dr. Who character.
This channel is always full of surprises.
The voice reminds me of Glados from portal, especialy the song 'still alive'.
I love the series keep going !
Funny, it reminds me of someone else 😉
That was AMAZING, I'm so happy for the organ and that it's feeling alive
The talking organ is trippy. At first I couldn't understand anything and then suddenly something clicked in my brain and I was able to understand the words. Brilliant! 😁
Hearing the pipes coming alive sent me back to my childhood and remembering the Ivor the Engine theme.
So they’re pneumatic amplifiers. 🤯 I can see how people would have stepped from there to valves and then transistors. Very cool.
Yeah, getting real transistor vibes from these.
This is also how player pianos and orchestrions work, but usually using suction rather than air pressure (except for pipe chests with instruments with organ pipes), and also those are usually totally tubular pneumatic (the only electrical part would be the motor turning the bellows to create suction and/or air pressure and turning the roll mechanism, and maybe the lights inside the cabinet).
I think these reed pipes are from the “Oboe” rank. Good to see them getting installed, they make a nice sound.
Nope - trumpets. Oboes often have capped resonators and look different.
@@TrentHamilton the organ I play has an unenclosed trumpet rank and an enclosed oboe rank. Neither have capped resonators.
Ah man, I am so much waiting for this to be running in concert with all the synths from one .mid sequencer...
That could be awesome!
Something about the organ saying "came and ripped me apart" is going to give me night terrors. Much love, fantastic work.
Best series on channel, so much work, mad respect !
brlliant!!!! they sound so cool, i didnt know how all the different tones an organ could make happened before
Starting off with the Hymn Board installation was perfect! Hymn 8007 has always been my favorite.
Every time you tune and it harmonizes it just fills me with joy
Once the entire thing is built Id love to hear a cool arrangement of the davy jones theme
Simply WOW. Sam... You really know what you're doiiiiiingggggg. Hahahaha. The last part... With the organ telling his story... That hit hard. Keep it up man! You're awesome!!!!
It takes “the pipes speak” to another level
SO i heard a couple of different instruments doing that voice thing you did at the end and I DO HAVE TO SAY that YOUR ORGAN SOUNDED THE BEST!!! I could understand EVERY SINGLE WORD!!!! I have NEVER heard it sound THAT MUCH LIKE A REAL VOICE before!!! Are you sure it's to just you talking with a medium size drink cup sealed over your lips and and jaw? Because I REALLY DO HEAR A VOICE under all those notes... that is ASTONISHING!!!!! HOLY MOLY BATMAN!!!!!!!
I really adore this project! I am looking forward to everyone episode. I love the church organ since I was a little kid and still dream of having one of my own. Keep up the awesome work!
Very cool, especially the talking part, never realised such a thing would actually be possible on an organ!
BTW: those pipes look like trumpets to me, apparently a 16' and 8' extended rank. I'm curious to see how good it works when all pipes are there.
If RUclips allowed more than one thumbs up per video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Sam would get alllllll ov’em! I BLOODY LOVE his videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm glued to this series, dude. I keep waiting for these videos to get boring, and they just keep getting more fascinating instead
Filming was interrupted during this video by RSPCA officers who had received reports of dying cows on the premises.
Woohoo, another organ update! EDIT: Holy shit, that ending. (No spoilers, watch it yourselves)
I can't believe I watched all the way to the end for that... well and truly sucked me in 😆
It’s in the title mate……
@@thesnitch7 I'm not 100% sure it was in the title when I watched it (saw it right as it was posted), but anyway, the ending is awesome.
when you stumble across another mad genius at work... WOW!!! : )
Just been to the museum...mind blowing!
Had a little play on the pipe organ, and Sam even played a bass drone while I played Enola Gay, but he was playing from BEHIND the keyboard, as he was in with the organ.
Lovely brilliant man he is, and the work gone into the 'other worldly' museum is absolutely staggering. Totally worth travelling 130 miles. Just bear in mind, it's quite noisy (you'd expect that) and it is nerd heaven!
Something for most I'd say.
Sam's level of trolling is legendary. Destroying haters with a single breath.
Are they haters though? Or just annoying knowitalls
organs are such cool instruments.. too bad they are mostly hidden in churches doing church stuff... so I appreciate Sam and Hans Zimmer for getting organs out of their church prisons :)
They’re not cool, they’re marvellous
@@BritishEngineer yes
Or.....you could just go to a church and stop being a weirdo.
@@BritishEngineer Awe-some, if you will.
@@hoseja I saw what you did there lmao. Best Sunday dadjoke!
Woah! That talking clip was amazing! You can really get an idea for how frequency-domain codecs, like MP3, work by watching that.
I love this so much, ❤️Joan’s organ being able to speak again x
Laughing my ass off at the list of hymn numbers being silly things, but subtracted 1 from each.
I only missed 1336, and there was space for it :)
Those first pipes sound like boat horns, amazing. Could you actually get some boat or train horns to make music?
No previous interest in church organs but here I am watching your progress on this and also watching Richard restore an 1800's church organ on his UK fm cb radio servicing channel , think the fact these came from a time when we actually made things peaked my interest , he's a time served organ restorer and electrical technician your a maverick electronics and mechanical genius with unnatural talent for getting stuff working , both are fascinating in their own right and both are top viewing .
Ok, the ending was like something out of a 1980s movie. Whoa.
In all seriousness, these your creativity and imagination are a pleasure to experience. Surely there is some sort of fellowship/endowment that awards money in order to allow people like yourself to pursue these fantastic endeavors unabated. I won’t use the word genius, but brilliant comes to mind and maybe that is not adequate enough to describe your work. Love it all.
I know I do not understand a whole lot of what you are doing , But You are a Music Prodigy ! keep up the genius work .
LOVE THIS!!!!!! Man has ability to synthesized every sound frequency of an organ in one small box but proceeds to build one massive organ. I love this soooo much its brilliant!!!!!!
As a Mega Man Legends fan, hearing "Little Fugue in G Minor" played on a real set of pipes was a real treat haha. Thank you, so cool!
Those clarinet flutes sound so freaking fantastic.