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i totally agree ... I totally agree that the twin have a too thick tip and 2 hard, if you have a little practice you can make art yourself with these sh*t markers hahaha
I say neither. If I had to choose on threat of death, I guess the cheap ones. Though I'd recommend spending just a touch more and going with Ohuhu. The colors for the cheap are really pretty, and you make it work like always.
If buying them myself was factored into this decision, then yeah, the cheap ones. I just left a rant comment about how overrated Copic is. And I totally agree, I much prefer Ohuhu, despite the few things Copic actually manages to outshine them on.
That moment where I censored myself swearing, I was on the Third marker in a row that didn't work and thought I'd have to scrap the entire video I had just recorded haha. I was super angry lol
Lol I was literally thinking this. I've was about to say he must feel mad about wasting time on a video and probably shouldn't have put this out, but then felt that would be seen as rude and an attack on adc for putting out an inferior video, when I was aiming my comment more at the markers. I dunno I feel the time and effort he put into making this video could've been used on a better (or more interesting ) product.
No hate please but I don’t think EITHER marker brand is worth it; the Twin markers had too many that didn’t work and Copic is WAY too expensive when you can get Ohuhus for way cheaper and (in many people’s opinion) are about as good or even just as good as Copic…
@@ADCArtAttack maybe try wellokb markers next? They are cheap Amazon alcohol markers, I would love to see them on one of these videos. Admittedly I have some, so that may be part of why, but still...also I love your videos, they're very helpful in terms of finding the most worth it markers for the price.
You can't beat Promarkers. It's just they don't have the brush tip, even though they do brush tip versions but everyone always forgets that when the conversation is had
True, there are also a lot of other cheap alternative brands if you want to buy some for like a 12-year-old little sister. I recommend Shuttle Art. I got it for my little sister before I bought her Ohuhu a year later for her 15th birthday. Since she doesn't use it anymore I'm currently using the Shuttles Art for a color book I got for Christmas. I'm a color pencil artist so I don't know how to blend markers (which doesn't work the same as pencils) but the base colors are good.
Sadly I think either he got a very bad batch or I was very lucky with mine. I got a smaller set gifted to me, they were all juicy, they all layered well, no empties, and they lasted longer than many of my other sets of markers. But 15 duds is taking the mick 🤯 I have a feeling after this video he may get a free replacement and gift haha
I truly enjoy your marker art videos and your style never ceases to amaze me. You inspire me to want to pick up my poor forgotten Copics and art supplies that I haven't used in a very long time!
If you’re willing to experiment, you can remove the broad nib and add some isopropyl alcohol into the chamber of the twin marker. The ink itself is dried which is expected due to how they were stored.
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II would recommend it to everyone to start with the cheap ones afterwards you can still buy the expensive ones :) the twin markers are worth it Great Video i was waiting for this VS ^^
Hmm. But if they're not enjoyable to use, won't you lose people along the way (when they quit out of frustration)? That might have stuck with it and flourished, if the pens had been fun to use? I'd say neither. Get a different brand entirely. One that's fun to use AND look good on the paper
@@ChrisRiArt Possibly. Different pens=different technique, no? More to the point though: why would you want to spend the time mastering these, if you already know you'll switch to something else later? Now if people like using the officeline, then I'm all for it. My intention is not to bash them because they're cheap. There are tons of examples, however, of people buying cheap materials - only to hate working with them. They then toss them out or give them to a kid they know or something, and go buy new materials. That costs more money and wastes more material, than if you get something decent to start with
The twins were probably marked down because they were old stock, find a fresh set and they will make a damn good practice set. I was surprised how much more vibrant their colors were and aside from being wetter they blended well.
My boy Luigi! I’m the youngest so I was always relegated to 2 player, felt a kinship with him. 😂 Those cheap markers are not worth the suffering for art that’s for sure! I admit, I use copics and I haven’t had issues with colour separation but it really does depend on paper (no not that copic marker paper, that’s over priced). For people who want to get into markers…. Skip both, get Ohuhu 😅
Gotta say... I'm impressed by the picture you did with the cheap, bad markers... It still looks really, really good. Which, given the poor quality markers, is entirely attributable to your skills.
I have to say that the left side looks considerably more appealing to me. I understand you struggled with using them but the vibrancy clearly looked better. And that has nothing to do with the price, if you throw that in it's the clear winner. You always do such good work.
I remember when I used to watch you in 2020 when I was ten now I’m turning 13 tomorrow and reminiscing on how much I liked drawing I even drew one of my favorite anime characters to. Thank for all you did for me as a child even though I’m still young
Great vid! Loved it. I think the cheap markers are better bc for me, the results are what I enjoy and look for the most when I draw so I’m going with the office line. ❤
I originally thought Officeline would have the advantage, but as soon as the problems kicked in, I changed sides to Copic. True that Copic Ciao has color separation but they do have better quality, better colors, better blends, and better results. And I hope that ADCArtAttack did destroy those horrible things they call Alcohol Markers
Hi! I was expecting this comparison! I bought the officeline just because how cheap they were and it happened the same to me: 24!! Were dry. But I went to the store and they apologized very surprised, got me another pack and this one work well. I don't think they are terrible (I have spectrum noir, ohuhu and some copics too), they blend well and are juicy. Maybe too much, because I see my paper for markers bend a little, and the patches of colour more like water based markers, but they blend well and have quite a good range of colours (even though some are too similar). For start using alcohol markers or in small surfaces (I mostly paint mandalas with them in order to don't waste my good markers) I recommend them, because how cheap they are and the variety of colours.
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Awesome. Have Seen those markers in a local Dollar store here in west germany and always thought about your Cheap vs. Expencive Serien. So happy to see them today
Bro, thanks for calling out the Copics on their number 1 issue. I have a blue, and I forget what it is, but I love it. It suffers from color separation so bad, and I didn't know what that was, like, when you mentioned it, and I saw it happening, I understood, like you opened my eyes. Thank you. Now I have a word to combat my frustrations with.
Generally when they're dry like that, it's the alcohol in the solution that's dried. There is still plenty of pigment. I utilize two options: I have a tin of denatured alcohol and syringe to refresh the marker (get the pigment flowing again). I also have a bottle of generic alcohol marker clear blending refill which can be used to similar effect.
Ahem... where's Peach? teehee! Love the video, fun as always!...can also vouch for the gamer rage. haha You made me jump out of my skin the other day when you shouted! There I was, quietly watching whilst chating away on the Discord and I get rage in my ears but it made me laugh so hard! haha
I wish you’d try Blick Studio alcohol markers (*not* the Illustrator markers which are horrible.) I’ve heard the Studio markers are just as good as Copic, with refillable ink and brush replacements which are the foam rubber, not fiber like Ohuhu. I’m sure shipping for you will be expensive though. Still, I’d love to see you do a head to head with Copic.
I’ve had dried out markers happen with yeakoo alcohol markers, I just spray the nib with rubbing alcohol or dip it in alcohol. The nib fabric soaks up the alcohol and brings more pigment from the inside to the outside. I never had problems with doing that to rehydrate alcohol markers.
That's suffering, I mean fifteen duds? Thank you for doing cheap vs expensive even though there are obvious losers at times. Previously I held off on coloring my art because the belief quality supplies meant ridiculously expensive. However, then my uncle introduced me to your videos.
Great video! I will say this about Copic, if you don't have the right paper, and I don't mean Copic paper because some reason their paper actually doesn't work well with their makers, they look like crap at the finish line. Combine that and their pricing and I totally understand why some people prefer other markers. You getting 15 dead markers in the cheapy pack is ridiculous though, that to me sounds like the store had them forever and couldn't sell them until they went on sale, guessing clearance, and the ink dried up in them while they say on the shelf.
Ooh don't mention copic and using the right paper to adc. There was a whole comment war and multiple videos made about this topic and they still came out inferior to cheaper markers. (I was on the wrong side of said war)
@@cnsmooth I'm speaking as someone who found the right paper. But the fact that you have to search, search, try, try, with such an expensive and usually highly recommended alcohol marker is BS. For their price they should work with a wider range of paper. With more affordable markers with just as wide range of colors, that do work with multiple kinds of paper, and now that some of the cheaper brands are starting to offer refillable options..... Copic is going to have to do something to stay in this race lol. I wasn't coming at him for it, if anything I was siding with him lol
I have used Copic, Ohuhu and Shuttle, I have to say Ohuhu still wins out in my opinion and I don't think i'm going to try Twin Markers anytime soon after this video lol Shuttle is good for what it is, Copic is still just too expensive and I find Ohuhu to be of higher quality. At this point I only keep my Copics because i'm not trashing such expensive markers, and there are colors I have with them that I don't have with Ohuhu. I'm just glad I can use all three brands on the same piece and it's not noticeable.
I got these pens for Christmas and I was really hoping that you would make a video on them. However, the ones I got were brush and bullet, and the colours were so.much better than you experienced in this video.
Oh man... The markers not working is giving me flashbacks! I bought my first markers about when I was 15. Back then, the only markers available were copics, or cheap knockoffs offs on eBay so guess which the skint teenager got? I think two of them had any ink in them! Took me 20 years to give markers another go - in part because of your videos showing they weren't all God awful!
no haters pls.. My daughter got one of those officeline markers on christmas as a present to her. I was curious so I tested today after watching your video and they were all working fine. Each marker has ink (good) but blending was 👎. Maybe its the paper. But it's good for kids like mine to start. for me... i am inlove with ohuhu markers!! ohuhu 4evah!!
It is a shame that the expensive set of markers did have color serpentine but applied the colors more evenly...so based on this demonstration of the 2 marker sets I agree with ur decision...hoping u have better luck with the next demonstration of cheap vs expensive marker sets considering the failed beginning of 15 markers of 1 set wouldn't work!! Keep the videos, opinions & tips coming!! Til next tyme...keep those cre8ive juices abrewing!!!
Hi Anthony, I see as a case of the right tool for the right job. Copic works better with certain papers like Bristol board etc yes there is definitely an argument to say they are the more expensive marker and should always outperform cheaper ones but that's like saying a formula 1 car should always outperform regular cars. On a race track an F1 car would hands down but put it on a pothole-riddled narrow road with speed bumps and I bet a VW Golf would beat it. So I would say to users new to markers use a cheaper marker to learn, practise and do your day-to-day sketches with and if you are doing a display piece or selling an art piece using the best materials you can afford and by best I don't mean blindly pick the most expensive as certain mediums and materials work better together than others. For example if you are layering pencils on top of markers you may need a paper with more tooth for the pencil. If you want to do a watercolour background for the effect or to save your maker ink you will need paper that can handle the water without getting damaged. I dont know what you think about this as you are more experienced with markers than myself. I primarily do colour pencil and graphite art I have only just started doing marker art but I know paper can make a huge difference from my playing around so far.
I get what your saying but for me the price point doesn’t match up, in a lot of way your right but then for any non professional artist it mean that you need to buy the most expensive set possible and buy a practice second set as well, where w&n, ohuhu etc you don’t need to and can still get the grade A results you desire. on the other hand for professionals as long as the markers have the colour fast rating it really doesn’t matter what they use and it only comes down to a user preference choice because they make it look amazing regardless what brand they use ie our man ADC
@Adam Callaway Yeah, I agree the price point doesn't make sense for me or most. You also mentioned a good point light-fast Copic markers are not light-fast and fade within weeks/months of direct sunlight as far as I am aware no alcohol markers on the market have a light-fast rating so for me they are well overpriced in my opinion. The point I was making before is why buy £300 markers then cheap out on the paper doesn't make sense. Again I'm a pencil person but the light fast colour pencils I use are about £250 for 100 to 120 pencil set (caran d'ache luminance, polychromos) and I have cheaper pencils I use in my sketchbook (prisma,derwent) so I don't waste my good ones on concepts or rough sketches. It just makes sense to me but maybe it is not for everyone 🤔.
So good to see the first video of the year. :-) I can't promise that I will always stay up to the day that you post a new video but I promise I will eventually catch up as the year goes on. but for today it is nice to be on track. I have to admit I like the look of the left side more than the right side which is the cheaper brand how sad that they make all of those colors and 15 of them don't work. Obviously they taught themselves as a bargain brand because they put themselves on sale but to buy something that doesn't work is that really a sale? Copics even the cheap version will always be out of my price range. but perhaps someday I might be able to splurge for some of ohuhu. I hope I spelled that right. I'm always amazed at how you can find a way to blend everything in a way that makes it look good . thanks for sharing your talent with the rest of us . I wish you well on your gaming channel. Blessings.
Its amusing how the marker brand that looks similar to that twin marker casing is better like those were the first marker set i bought because you reviewed it and honestly don’t regret it I made one of my favorite art pieces with those markers
The office line markers weren’t $20 for 60 markers, they were $20 for 45 working ones. Some people might be luckier, but it’s impossible to recommend a product when a full 25% are defective.
I have maybe 2/3 of the sketch pens, a bunch of copic multiliners (the metal ones are more expensive than the sketch markers), and odd wide and regular copics. I am poor AF. I bought aa few at a time over several years, it can be done. Some colors separate more than others. Layer more colors to fix that. You need many colors to pull that off.
Your videos are so fun to watch. I got my first set of Ohuhu Markers and absolutely love them for coloring. Any suggestions for how to transfer images from a coloring book to a piece of marker paper without a light pad and killing your shoulders from using a window?
there's a very good water based maker in Brazil, i believe it's not too hard to find, it's bic intensity, they come in lots of shapes and nibs, i would love to see your opinion on them
Very curious what paper you're using as it can have a huge impact on how the markers dry. I have never had issues like this with my Copics but I use Copic paper. I'd love to see you do a comparison of the same tool on different papers some time
That's another negative about Copic for a hobbyist. They are so expensive and they need to be used on special paper to work well. My opinion is that is why they are marked Professional, not an amateur. When you are selling artwork you need to create it on high quaint paper for it to display for a long time. So you already have to buy high-end paper. Well for hobbyists, it doesn't matter. So a market that can work on more types of paper is usually a better investment.
I really loved this video. I have 12 Copic Sketch markers. Brush/Chisel nip. One, I HATE chisel too!! Two, I noticed some color separation as well and I thought, maybe, it was my markers. It was only slight but definitely noticeable. COMPLETELY agree with you though, the point is for our art/craft/coloring to be enjoyable. Lastly, have you heard of the OLO markers? Those things are crazy expensive! I am curious to find out if they are MORE expensive than copic.
Should try doing a hybrid....use Copic for base layer and cheap for the rest and see if they are compatible and work together. Would be interesting to see
Personally, I was inspired by Jazza to buy Alcohol Markers, and of course went for Copics because they were super popular. I was super grateful to get them as a Christmas Present and now I have a large collection that I love, however, watching your videos is almost making me start to regret the choice of Copics. I probably should have gone for Ohuhu or perhaps the Promarker brush series instead! However, for me, the Copics still perform well enough, I do think though the next time I want to spend some money on art supplies, specifically markers, I'm going to be looking away from the Copics in favor of other brands like Ohuhu now!
To get the most of your copics, I suggest investing in smooth papers such as Bristol Board and Marker paper. They'll produce MUCH higher quality results than I displayed here :) It's absolutely not a regret you should have. They are merely a less versatile marker. :)
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, if blending is your one and only goal, use either Ohuhu or W&N alcohol markers, they blend better than copics and (especially the Ohuhu) significantly cheaper
For 20$ they are perfect, not everyone has 300+ USD to get some markers that they use from time to time, as a hobby. As a beginner I would definitely pick a cheaper option which would allow me to learn the disadvantages of using them and help me understand what I need to get better and get better results.
You should try Stylefile. The stylefile ones also have brush nibs and they have refills. They have the price range like ohuhus. In my opinion they feel like a mixture between copics and ohuhus
I'm gonna be real honest, it would be nice to get a light pad, but I did have one in the past for tracing, but I decided to not use it and start drawing and find ways to clean my artwork with fineliners and digital art.
Typically when I watch this series I look at the less effective marker and think "that's not bad it just has a skill gap" I think this is the first time I have actually thought "nope, not touching those." That $20 side, that was unpleasant -XD
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i totally agree ... I totally agree that the twin have a too thick tip and 2 hard, if you have a little practice you can make art yourself with these sh*t markers hahaha
Top 3: 1# Copic Ciao 2# Winsor Newton promarkers 3# Ohuhu ♥
@@ChrisRiArt I would love to try the Ohuhu brush markers.
Hi I'm an artist who wishes to buy markers but I can't afford please do a giveaway
I say neither. If I had to choose on threat of death, I guess the cheap ones. Though I'd recommend spending just a touch more and going with Ohuhu. The colors for the cheap are really pretty, and you make it work like always.
If buying them myself was factored into this decision, then yeah, the cheap ones. I just left a rant comment about how overrated Copic is. And I totally agree, I much prefer Ohuhu, despite the few things Copic actually manages to outshine them on.
I like Ohuhu too but i prefer bianyo then Ohuhu Bianyo is also affordable as well
Respect to you for not just scrapping the video. 😂 I would’ve thrown everything away and rage quit whenever the markers didn’t work 😅
That moment where I censored myself swearing, I was on the Third marker in a row that didn't work and thought I'd have to scrap the entire video I had just recorded haha.
I was super angry lol
@@ADCArtAttack haha I support it.
Make an upload where it’s just you destroying the markers 👀😂
Lol I was literally thinking this. I've was about to say he must feel mad about wasting time on a video and probably shouldn't have put this out, but then felt that would be seen as rude and an attack on adc for putting out an inferior video, when I was aiming my comment more at the markers.
I dunno I feel the time and effort he put into making this video could've been used on a better (or more interesting ) product.
No hate please but I don’t think EITHER marker brand is worth it; the Twin markers had too many that didn’t work and Copic is WAY too expensive when you can get Ohuhus for way cheaper and (in many people’s opinion) are about as good or even just as good as Copic…
Nah you are right...
I just have to make a choice over the two, but i would refuse both if offered lol
@@ADCArtAttack maybe try wellokb markers next? They are cheap Amazon alcohol markers, I would love to see them on one of these videos. Admittedly I have some, so that may be part of why, but still...also I love your videos, they're very helpful in terms of finding the most worth it markers for the price.
You can't beat Promarkers. It's just they don't have the brush tip, even though they do brush tip versions but everyone always forgets that when the conversation is had
@R I have brushpens in my promarkers... I mean I never knew they didn't had brushnips.
True, there are also a lot of other cheap alternative brands if you want to buy some for like a 12-year-old little sister. I recommend Shuttle Art. I got it for my little sister before I bought her Ohuhu a year later for her 15th birthday. Since she doesn't use it anymore I'm currently using the Shuttles Art for a color book I got for Christmas. I'm a color pencil artist so I don't know how to blend markers (which doesn't work the same as pencils) but the base colors are good.
Sadly I think either he got a very bad batch or I was very lucky with mine. I got a smaller set gifted to me, they were all juicy, they all layered well, no empties, and they lasted longer than many of my other sets of markers.
But 15 duds is taking the mick 🤯
I have a feeling after this video he may get a free replacement and gift haha
I truly enjoy your marker art videos and your style never ceases to amaze me. You inspire me to want to pick up my poor forgotten Copics and art supplies that I haven't used in a very long time!
Your art never cease to inspire me. Amazing skills and also very entertaining video😁 well done my guy💯😎💪🏼
If you’re willing to experiment, you can remove the broad nib and add some isopropyl alcohol into the chamber of the twin marker. The ink itself is dried which is expected due to how they were stored.
you literally my favorite artist on youtube. and when I'm having a bad day, I just watch your videos to brighten my day. Im also a young artist myself and you inspire me so much
Even though the office line were dreadful you still made an awesome work of art. That is just proof of your talent! Great video as always.
II would recommend it to everyone to start with the cheap ones afterwards you can still buy the expensive ones :) the twin markers are worth it Great Video i was waiting for this VS ^^
They're worth it, if, you like pain haha ;)
@@ADCArtAttack No pain no gain hehehe :P
Hmm. But if they're not enjoyable to use, won't you lose people along the way (when they quit out of frustration)? That might have stuck with it and flourished, if the pens had been fun to use?
I'd say neither. Get a different brand entirely. One that's fun to use AND look good on the paper
@@shadowheartart3898 thats true, but if you mastered this Brand you can almoast use every other alcohol marker hahaha
@@ChrisRiArt Possibly. Different pens=different technique, no?
More to the point though: why would you want to spend the time mastering these, if you already know you'll switch to something else later?
Now if people like using the officeline, then I'm all for it. My intention is not to bash them because they're cheap.
There are tons of examples, however, of people buying cheap materials - only to hate working with them. They then toss them out or give them to a kid they know or something, and go buy new materials.
That costs more money and wastes more material, than if you get something decent to start with
The twins were probably marked down because they were old stock, find a fresh set and they will make a damn good practice set. I was surprised how much more vibrant their colors were and aside from being wetter they blended well.
I love these budget marker videos 👍🏽🔥🔥
My boy Luigi! I’m the youngest so I was always relegated to 2 player, felt a kinship with him. 😂
Those cheap markers are not worth the suffering for art that’s for sure!
I admit, I use copics and I haven’t had issues with colour separation but it really does depend on paper (no not that copic marker paper, that’s over priced).
For people who want to get into markers…. Skip both, get Ohuhu 😅
Gotta say... I'm impressed by the picture you did with the cheap, bad markers...
It still looks really, really good. Which, given the poor quality markers, is entirely attributable to your skills.
I have to say that the left side looks considerably more appealing to me. I understand you struggled with using them but the vibrancy clearly looked better. And that has nothing to do with the price, if you throw that in it's the clear winner.
You always do such good work.
When the markers are so unenjoyable that you put *Copics* as the winner
HAHAHA right!!!!
I remember when I used to watch you in 2020 when I was ten now I’m turning 13 tomorrow and reminiscing on how much I liked drawing I even drew one of my favorite anime characters to. Thank for all you did for me as a child even though I’m still young
Wow. Never thought of water-based markers as virgin markers, like the non-alcoholic version of a cocktail, but that's what I'm calling them now.
The most savage takedown of a Secret Santa since that episode of The Office.
I’ve been waiting for this video for so long 😭 glad it’s finally out!!!
Great vid! Loved it. I think the cheap markers are better bc for me, the results are what I enjoy and look for the most when I draw so I’m going with the office line. ❤
You're my favorite, because you always do artwork, even if you're unboxing, or reviewing products. Happy new year 🎉 ✨
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I originally thought Officeline would have the advantage, but as soon as the problems kicked in, I changed sides to Copic.
True that Copic Ciao has color separation but they do have better quality, better colors, better blends, and better results.
And I hope that ADCArtAttack did destroy those horrible things they call Alcohol Markers
Hi! I was expecting this comparison! I bought the officeline just because how cheap they were and it happened the same to me: 24!! Were dry. But I went to the store and they apologized very surprised, got me another pack and this one work well. I don't think they are terrible (I have spectrum noir, ohuhu and some copics too), they blend well and are juicy. Maybe too much, because I see my paper for markers bend a little, and the patches of colour more like water based markers, but they blend well and have quite a good range of colours (even though some are too similar). For start using alcohol markers or in small surfaces (I mostly paint mandalas with them in order to don't waste my good markers) I recommend them, because how cheap they are and the variety of colours.
As an artist who uses a variety of markers including copic, you have mention things like light-fastness and how paper effects things.
The first time ADC ever said "These Markers Slap" XD
(The Slap Quote Is Never Gonna Stop lol)
Thank you for making all these great videos you are such an inspiration
Hi Adc, I have been subscribe your channel almost 3 years and I really love what you doing in your channel, keep it up the good work and stay healthy adc. You are my number one top artists that I really love to meet.Take care Adc.
Awesome. Have Seen those markers in a local Dollar store here in west germany and always thought about your Cheap vs. Expencive Serien. So happy to see them today
you have amazing skills ADc
Good to see you back.. Love your videos!
Bro, thanks for calling out the Copics on their number 1 issue. I have a blue, and I forget what it is, but I love it. It suffers from color separation so bad, and I didn't know what that was, like, when you mentioned it, and I saw it happening, I understood, like you opened my eyes. Thank you. Now I have a word to combat my frustrations with.
I've been waiting for you to do a video on garbage markers. Not disappointed. Awesome video as always. I look forward to you new stuff. Thanks.
Generally when they're dry like that, it's the alcohol in the solution that's dried. There is still plenty of pigment. I utilize two options: I have a tin of denatured alcohol and syringe to refresh the marker (get the pigment flowing again). I also have a bottle of generic alcohol marker clear blending refill which can be used to similar effect.
I think the artist can make any marker look good.
Ahem... where's Peach? teehee! Love the video, fun as always!...can also vouch for the gamer rage. haha You made me jump out of my skin the other day when you shouted! There I was, quietly watching whilst chating away on the Discord and I get rage in my ears but it made me laugh so hard! haha
I wish you’d try Blick Studio alcohol markers (*not* the Illustrator markers which are horrible.) I’ve heard the Studio markers are just as good as Copic, with refillable ink and brush replacements which are the foam rubber, not fiber like Ohuhu. I’m sure shipping for you will be expensive though. Still, I’d love to see you do a head to head with Copic.
CRAZY how he did a Luigi draw right after a bowser piece. Tiktok fire is being fueled again
I love how mad he got with the cheap markers
It’s been awhile since buying markers, but I still have the last of the original Trias. That’s my personal favorite.
I’ve had dried out markers happen with yeakoo alcohol markers, I just spray the nib with rubbing alcohol or dip it in alcohol.
The nib fabric soaks up the alcohol and brings more pigment from the inside to the outside.
I never had problems with doing that to rehydrate alcohol markers.
That's suffering, I mean fifteen duds? Thank you for doing cheap vs expensive even though there are obvious losers at times. Previously I held off on coloring my art because the belief quality supplies meant ridiculously expensive. However, then my uncle introduced me to your videos.
Luigi is adorable 💚
Great video! I will say this about Copic, if you don't have the right paper, and I don't mean Copic paper because some reason their paper actually doesn't work well with their makers, they look like crap at the finish line. Combine that and their pricing and I totally understand why some people prefer other markers. You getting 15 dead markers in the cheapy pack is ridiculous though, that to me sounds like the store had them forever and couldn't sell them until they went on sale, guessing clearance, and the ink dried up in them while they say on the shelf.
Ooh don't mention copic and using the right paper to adc. There was a whole comment war and multiple videos made about this topic and they still came out inferior to cheaper markers. (I was on the wrong side of said war)
@@cnsmooth I'm speaking as someone who found the right paper. But the fact that you have to search, search, try, try, with such an expensive and usually highly recommended alcohol marker is BS. For their price they should work with a wider range of paper. With more affordable markers with just as wide range of colors, that do work with multiple kinds of paper, and now that some of the cheaper brands are starting to offer refillable options..... Copic is going to have to do something to stay in this race lol. I wasn't coming at him for it, if anything I was siding with him lol
@BoneYardGrim just watch his videos on it please
Edit not that I don't agree with all you have said
I have used Copic, Ohuhu and Shuttle, I have to say Ohuhu still wins out in my opinion and I don't think i'm going to try Twin Markers anytime soon after this video lol
Shuttle is good for what it is, Copic is still just too expensive and I find Ohuhu to be of higher quality. At this point I only keep my Copics because i'm not trashing such expensive markers, and there are colors I have with them that I don't have with Ohuhu. I'm just glad I can use all three brands on the same piece and it's not noticeable.
Copic is better for the long run when it comes to storing. But I love ohuhu too and brought those for my nephew who's really getting into drawing.
Okay I have to be honest, I came for Luigi. But the marker stuff was interesting too :))
I got these pens for Christmas and I was really hoping that you would make a video on them. However, the ones I got were brush and bullet, and the colours were so.much better than you experienced in this video.
Maybe a stupid question but could you add a few of drops of alcohol to the dried markers & rehydrate them?
Oh man... The markers not working is giving me flashbacks!
I bought my first markers about when I was 15. Back then, the only markers available were copics, or cheap knockoffs offs on eBay so guess which the skint teenager got? I think two of them had any ink in them! Took me 20 years to give markers another go - in part because of your videos showing they weren't all God awful!
Too you are back !!
no haters pls..
My daughter got one of those officeline markers on christmas as a present to her. I was curious so I tested today after watching your video and they were all working fine. Each marker has ink (good) but blending was 👎. Maybe its the paper. But it's good for kids like mine to start.
for me... i am inlove with ohuhu markers!! ohuhu 4evah!!
Once again, the cheap side easily wins. Great job.
Happy New Year=) I hope it brings us something good=) Love your videos=3 You always make any material look nice =)
I hope I'm not the only one asking but How did you learn to draw this good its pure amazing
It is a shame that the expensive set of markers did have color serpentine but applied the colors more evenly...so based on this demonstration of the 2 marker sets I agree with ur decision...hoping u have better luck with the next demonstration of cheap vs expensive marker sets considering the failed beginning of 15 markers of 1 set wouldn't work!! Keep the videos, opinions & tips coming!! Til next tyme...keep those cre8ive juices abrewing!!!
Ur art is amazing and I really would like for tutorials on RUclips I wish your art skills could be like yours one day
Hi Anthony,
I see as a case of the right tool for the right job. Copic works better with certain papers like Bristol board etc yes there is definitely an argument to say they are the more expensive marker and should always outperform cheaper ones but that's like saying a formula 1 car should always outperform regular cars. On a race track an F1 car would hands down but put it on a pothole-riddled narrow road with speed bumps and I bet a VW Golf would beat it.
So I would say to users new to markers use a cheaper marker to learn, practise and do your day-to-day sketches with and if you are doing a display piece or selling an art piece using the best materials you can afford and by best I don't mean blindly pick the most expensive as certain mediums and materials work better together than others. For example if you are layering pencils on top of markers you may need a paper with more tooth for the pencil. If you want to do a watercolour background for the effect or to save your maker ink you will need paper that can handle the water without getting damaged.
I dont know what you think about this as you are more experienced with markers than myself. I primarily do colour pencil and graphite art I have only just started doing marker art but I know paper can make a huge difference from my playing around so far.
I get what your saying but for me the price point doesn’t match up, in a lot of way your right but then for any non professional artist it mean that you need to buy the most expensive set possible and buy a practice second set as well, where w&n, ohuhu etc you don’t need to and can still get the grade A results you desire. on the other hand for professionals as long as the markers have the colour fast rating it really doesn’t matter what they use and it only comes down to a user preference choice because they make it look amazing regardless what brand they use ie our man ADC
@Adam Callaway
Yeah, I agree the price point doesn't make sense for me or most. You also mentioned a good point light-fast Copic markers are not light-fast and fade within weeks/months of direct sunlight as far as I am aware no alcohol markers on the market have a light-fast rating so for me they are well overpriced in my opinion. The point I was making before is why buy £300 markers then cheap out on the paper doesn't make sense.
Again I'm a pencil person but the light fast colour pencils I use are about £250 for 100 to 120 pencil set (caran d'ache luminance, polychromos) and I have cheaper pencils I use in my sketchbook (prisma,derwent) so I don't waste my good ones on concepts or rough sketches. It just makes sense to me but maybe it is not for everyone 🤔.
Set B of the copics has such the oddest selection of colours
Bob!!! 😍😍
Wonderful job as always. Very entertaining video.
So good to see the first video of the year. :-) I can't promise that I will always stay up to the day that you post a new video but I promise I will eventually catch up as the year goes on. but for today it is nice to be on track. I have to admit I like the look of the left side more than the right side which is the cheaper brand how sad that they make all of those colors and 15 of them don't work. Obviously they taught themselves as a bargain brand because they put themselves on sale but to buy something that doesn't work is that really a sale? Copics even the cheap version will always be out of my price range. but perhaps someday I might be able to splurge for some of ohuhu. I hope I spelled that right. I'm always amazed at how you can find a way to blend everything in a way that makes it look good . thanks for sharing your talent with the rest of us . I wish you well on your gaming channel. Blessings.
I mostly do pencil drawings but when I do use marker I use the arteza ever blend alcohol markers and they work pretty well honestly
I like the one on the left 😀✌️
Love your videos, hope you are well!
Love your art
Its amusing how the marker brand that looks similar to that twin marker casing is better like those were the first marker set i bought because you reviewed it and honestly don’t regret it I made one of my favorite art pieces with those markers
wow, very good 😍👍👏
good work friend
Out of copics I actually like the Copic Ciao better, only because they feel better in my hand :D
Cool
The office line markers weren’t $20 for 60 markers, they were $20 for 45 working ones. Some people might be luckier, but it’s impossible to recommend a product when a full 25% are defective.
I love coloring/blending but am not great and sketching. If you released a coloring book i would buy it in a heartbeat
I have maybe 2/3 of the sketch pens, a bunch of copic multiliners (the metal ones are more expensive than the sketch markers), and odd wide and regular copics. I am poor AF. I bought aa few at a time over several years, it can be done.
Some colors separate more than others. Layer more colors to fix that. You need many colors to pull that off.
You should add alcohol into the marker itself.. lol
Can you PLEASE MAKE a Sonic gouache video?
The twin markers do work 😅 you just have to push the tip down for the ink to come 😅🎉
Bro got a whole set of twinmarker in back
Tbh, even with 1/4 not working because they're on discount the cheapest marker look more like Luigi than the comics saturation and color wise
I love your channel I subbed to it I only just started watching you I love your channel ❤❤❤❤❤
Your videos are so fun to watch. I got my first set of Ohuhu Markers and absolutely love them for coloring. Any suggestions for how to transfer images from a coloring book to a piece of marker paper without a light pad and killing your shoulders from using a window?
there's a very good water based maker in Brazil, i believe it's not too hard to find, it's bic intensity, they come in lots of shapes and nibs, i would love to see your opinion on them
I miss you 10 style, u should do Superman and maybe Freiza
Very curious what paper you're using as it can have a huge impact on how the markers dry. I have never had issues like this with my Copics but I use Copic paper. I'd love to see you do a comparison of the same tool on different papers some time
That's another negative about Copic for a hobbyist. They are so expensive and they need to be used on special paper to work well. My opinion is that is why they are marked Professional, not an amateur. When you are selling artwork you need to create it on high quaint paper for it to display for a long time. So you already have to buy high-end paper. Well for hobbyists, it doesn't matter. So a market that can work on more types of paper is usually a better investment.
I really loved this video. I have 12 Copic Sketch markers. Brush/Chisel nip. One, I HATE chisel too!! Two, I noticed some color separation as well and I thought, maybe, it was my markers. It was only slight but definitely noticeable. COMPLETELY agree with you though, the point is for our art/craft/coloring to be enjoyable. Lastly, have you heard of the OLO markers? Those things are crazy expensive! I am curious to find out if they are MORE expensive than copic.
Should try doing a hybrid....use Copic for base layer and cheap for the rest and see if they are compatible and work together. Would be interesting to see
I guess it's time for a cheap vs cheapest marker shootout.
Yas!! HIS NAME IS BOB!!
Personally, I was inspired by Jazza to buy Alcohol Markers, and of course went for Copics because they were super popular. I was super grateful to get them as a Christmas Present and now I have a large collection that I love, however, watching your videos is almost making me start to regret the choice of Copics. I probably should have gone for Ohuhu or perhaps the Promarker brush series instead! However, for me, the Copics still perform well enough, I do think though the next time I want to spend some money on art supplies, specifically markers, I'm going to be looking away from the Copics in favor of other brands like Ohuhu now!
To get the most of your copics, I suggest investing in smooth papers such as Bristol Board and Marker paper. They'll produce MUCH higher quality results than I displayed here :)
It's absolutely not a regret you should have. They are merely a less versatile marker. :)
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, if blending is your one and only goal, use either Ohuhu or W&N alcohol markers, they blend better than copics and (especially the Ohuhu) significantly cheaper
For 20$ they are perfect, not everyone has 300+ USD to get some markers that they use from time to time, as a hobby. As a beginner I would definitely pick a cheaper option which would allow me to learn the disadvantages of using them and help me understand what I need to get better and get better results.
You should try Stylefile. The stylefile ones also have brush nibs and they have refills. They have the price range like ohuhus. In my opinion they feel like a mixture between copics and ohuhus
Whatever side you said slaps😅
Please review 5 belows set of markers. They have 2 sets of 24 markers. Each pk is 5$ and they are actually really good. 💜
I have two sets of ohuhus pastel and regular and kingart brush pens and zebra fineliners and they are amazing
Just gonna stick to my Windsor and Newtons
I'm gonna be real honest, it would be nice to get a light pad, but I did have one in the past for tracing, but I decided to not use it and start drawing and find ways to clean my artwork with fineliners and digital art.
Typically when I watch this series I look at the less effective marker and think "that's not bad it just has a skill gap" I think this is the first time I have actually thought "nope, not touching those." That $20 side, that was unpleasant -XD
The co marker or whatever it is called is made in Japan!?
I love Japan!
The cheap ones blended very decent can’t argue with that at all