When are you actually an adult? - Shannon Odell
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Explore how scientists define adulthood, and find out if there’s a specific age at which we reach maturity.
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Most countries recognize 18 as the start of adulthood by granting various freedoms and privileges. Yet there’s no exact age or moment in development that we can point to as having reached full maturity. If there’s no consensus on exactly when we reach maturity, when do we actually become adults? Shannon Odell shares how scientists define adulthood using stages of brain development.
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As someone who just turned 30, I definitely feel that adulthood isn't something that can be easily marked down by a single number. I certainly feel more confident and sure of who I am now that I did when I was 20, but I still feel like I'm continuing to learn and grow (and make mistakes) even now. Crazy to think what I might feel about my own "adultness" when I turn 40.
well im still a teenager, but I think learning and growing and making mistakes is just life as a whole, not just childhood
@@jk-gb4et You hit the nail on the head. As a kid I thought that adults had it all figured out. Turns out we don't! We have some things figured out, the rest is well... not
I'm 60 and I'm still waiting for most of my generation to grow up.
@@falcychead8198
Well! At least modern medicine and health literacy is making age less. I bet you still look 40 in your 90s, able to drift the 110 FWY.
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When your back starts to ache after doing yard work
When you have to go to the doctor yourself 😔
When you list yardwork as a hobby
@@TheDramacist when doing taxes feels freeing
When your back aches after waking up*
I'm 17 but it hurts since 15
Whatever the voting age is, there will always be people that will be just short of it at the time of a vote
😂 thats when its good to live in a country where some voting is done 4 times a year....
@@JustMe-12345 That can't make for very stable Government!
Precisely why voting should not depend on age in the first place. It's wildly undemocratic.
TheFinalChapters Well, I think it makes sense to still have some form of age based restriction, otherwise newborn babies would be eligible to vote! Put it this way, there's bound to be an age it's safe to say that no one below it is going to be aware enough for it to be worth them having a vote
@@TheFinalChapters Well then what should it be based on? Its not like we can have a voting test to determine eligibility of voting, because that marginalises the poverty-ridden / less educated / less privileged communities who need to vote to get their needs met. But if you're looking at a very unethical, realistic and inhuman perspective, a test to determine voting eligibility is the best choice. But why inhuman? Well because, those who are uneducated will simply get their rights to vote stripped, that could be debatable as a good thing as well. It prevents misled uneducated population numbers from voting corrupt leaders with good marketting, but it marginalises their rights. Personally i support having a test to determine voting eligibility based on intellect or general knowledge of the country. I mean, no offense, as an analogy : I dont think people who aren't aware of the existence of microbes should choose a health minister/chief in a country etc etc.
For me the age was 25. I was always embarrassed of who I was the previous year until age 26 (meaning I was fine with age 25 me). I still had more maturing to do, but I'm 31 now and I still wouldn't mind hanging with 25 year old me. I could give 25 year old me advice and he would listen. 24 and prior I was hopeless lol.
pre frontal cortex finishes development roughly around age 25
I understand u bro
I agree, too
Perhaps I'm in the same process as your lol
this comment lowkey made me feel better as a 19yr old rn
Maybe it isn't about age, but intelligence, experiences, and exposure to the world. Since we all experience life differently, is it really fair to judge two people on age alone?
Yes, I agree but that is a hard metric to measure and placed into policies. Hence, a very concrete number is most often referred to.
@@procrastinatingpotato6749 like responsibility?
I literally just had the thought about how much of a child I was just 3 years earlier. I'm 25.
and you're still is, we all are to some degree
I literally had the thought about how much of a child I was just 5 years earlier. I'm 34.
I'm 27 and same haha. Well it's probably a good sign, we're getting wiser over time :)
Ignorance is a curse
Being young is awesome
meanwhile i am still baby boy lol, i am 30
A large part also depends on circumstances of ones life, and how much agency they take in it. There's a lot of people who are forced to grow up quickly after traumatic events or because they didn't have adults to rely on. On the opposite end there's people like me who were socially and financially pressured into letting my parents make decisions about my grad school experience even after graduating college.
I would argue that traumatic events make you grow up more quickly in certain areas but more slowly in other areas
True, and makes me theorize that the whole 18=adult thing is because a lot of previous generations went through a lot of traumatic events that aged them (like with the Civil War, the Great Depression, WWI and II, etc), and people mistook traumas back then for maturity.
Before then, the concept of a teenager didn't exist, and a lot of people that we would now consider teens either went into apprenticeships, or worked on a farm with their family (people also often forget that the average citizen back then we're farmers).
When you realise that going to sleep is a reward not a punishment
I realized this when I reached middle school tho
I realized about it too late in my quarter life!?🥺😭
Not kidding here, Ted-Ed should make a TV show one day. One that can be streamed or watched on television because of how educational it is. And with the different art styles and different hosts. It sounds like a great idea!
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Im 22 and I can definitely say I am not the same person I was when I was 18. I bet I Won't be the same when I turn 26... Hope I am better too!
I'm surprised there wasn't more of a talk about sociology and society's expectations on children because "adulthood" is a social thing more than a physical thing.
There are a lot of societal markers that influence biological development, most notably when girls starts taking birth control. Cognition and physical development are heavily influenced by environmental factors. Given that teenagers are often sleep deprived, we don't know if the lack of impulse control is due to a lack of sleep, their stage in development, or both. We also don't know how much of it is a construct of our current educational system, such in middle school begins to place heavy emphasis on conformity, position in social hierarchy, and obedience to authority.
There may also be a problem with how parents communicate their emotions to children at different stages of development. Concern and anger tend to go together when expressed to teenagers because parents tend to be angry at teenagers for putting themselves in danger, but also concerned for their wellbeing.
This makes a lot of sense. As a high school science teacher in my early twenties there is an overlay for students who think of me more like their friend rather than their teacher based on how I am socially and emotionally. Society totally has a influence on "adulthood".
Girls taking birth control is a terrible example as it's not a major event or one that happens in majority of girl's lives. Except in America though
Oh, and birth control doesn't have anything to do with maturity. For one thing, hormonal birth control is used to treat medical conditions. For another, using hormonal birth control doesn't influence your personality or maturity.
@@Ikajoi mean… doesnt it?
Your comment is quite US-centric. I'm sure that you could answer some of these questions, just by comparing cultures.
For me it was 19. By then I’d fallen into a deep state of depression, and dropped out of my studies and got myself a job. Whereas a year or two before I still felt young and happy. Then when I was 21 I started studying again and got over my depression. Because I started my studies again at 21, most of my classmates were 18 and I felt really old when I compared my maturity to theirs. All of them had never even gone out, because of the pandemic and that really made me feel old
omg same i thought i was alone lol
Oh I am in the same boat as you with me being 18 and finishing my last years of Highschool right now.
I don't regret my gap year at all now cuz before I was in such a bad spot mentally, physically and even academically but after a year of self evaluation and taking care of myself by working out and doing skin care, I feel younger than ever 😁
I turn 18 tomorrow... In a way it's comforting to think that I still have more growing to do and that my brain hasn't fully developed yet...
You’re right .
You don’t know nothing .
Don’t even think of an serious relationship until you’re 25
Happy 18th Birthday!
@@SadfoxGuyver okay dad 😔
@@jinjunliu2401 I could be
@@SadfoxGuyver i turned 19 this year. i'm just going to say. i don't think i want a relationship even when i get there
It’s quite easy for humans to become adults, but to always have a child-like heart that makes everything joyful isn’t such an easy task.
I’m about to turn 27 and I still feel like a child. I have even been in a Management position for a few years, so my responsibility is quite high, and somehow I still feel/see myself as a kid.
Same.. I prefer watching cartoons, do my homework, sleep until 11a.m. on holidays and I'm 22.. (using these specific words instead of anime, weekend, college assignments cz Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 😂😭😀)
Do not use them slangs or acronyms!?🧐🤔
People used to say the definition of manhood was raising a family. They were probably the smart ones.
Same
I am in my early 50’s but I feel like a teenager 😅
Like my mother, I always tell her that I’m going to be older than her 😂😂😂
I'm almost 50, and I feel like I got ran over by a teenager driving their parents' Yukon Denali. 😆
😂😂
What I cant belive u l...really girl😂😂
This is a very good question because once I got into high school, my "childhood" pretty much ended because of all the homework, assignments, and clubs that I'm in. I was practically doing a 9-5 job as a high school student and as an honors student I had to get ahead, which means doing homework during lunch at the computer lab just so I would have less to do at home. When I was in grade school and in middle school I had homework, but not as much compared to high school. At the same time, my sisters and I didn't exactly have a typical childhood since we would wake up early on Saturdays to go bowling for the league and on Sundays we would go to church and every week we had choir practice. So in spite of how busy our lives were back then, I at least had more time for myself and my family compared to my high school years. The point is, I was forced to become a "workaholic" just so I could be part of the National Honors Society and I'm happy about it but at the same time I also had a lot of homework even in the 9th Grade. I didn't complain about it because I thought that it's exactly what adults do in the real world and if I can't handle the load of homework at school, how can I handle the work load in the office space?
Needed this, since I don't know what being an adult's supposed to be like, beyond more responsibilities
essentially, but there's also accumulated wisdom on certain aspects of life, i think.
@@Echo81Rumple83 I don't want wisdom, ignorance is bliss
When you realise there are no adults, just people looking for one.
Daddy and Mommy Issues?
@@Yusa_Beach attention issues?
So true
When you start taking responsibility for your actions
True words sir
Makes sense. 90% of Twitter were never really adults
That would eliminate a LOT of people in all age groups.
Bruh you just knocked out 50% of so called " adults"
Well, we all can grow up in 13-25.
But someone can be still a child in 30+ years old.
Very nice video, I personally think maturity has been a joking point around the whole human history.
I do know from experience that some people never reach maturity, no matter their age.
Yep
Correct
At 31 (current age), I feel awkward dating anyone younger than 23 and sometimes even 23-25. There seems to be a huge developmental gap more often than not.
damn that's weird man because 21-25 are fully grown adults
@@iiCounted-op5jx 25 is when you brain stops maturing, you can google it in fact. 21 is an arbitrary age for drinking and has little to do with human development. I was married between 21-26 in an abusive relationship and got divorced. The amount of life experience is VERY different between me at 31, and some 21 year old who has yet to experience many things.
I can't fathom how people like Leonardo Di Caprio can date someone half their age, and be happy about it. It must have to do with extreme shallowness... because your partner should be your equal. Equal means life experience.
My girlfriend is 25, for the record. Similar life experience in a shorter time frame.
@@iiCounted-op5jx No. 25 is a lower limit. Most people are fully grown around 28, 29
I feel my personality really crystalized at 17. I really became "me" at this age. I don't know if adulthood is the right word, but it's something.
For me, I started to experience adulting when I got my first job in 2021. It was also the year I lost my Dad, which I think pushed me to be more responsible.
Following the logic of different brain regions fully developing at different ages, would it be more beneficial to have other age requirements to gain certain rights in society? For example, you can drive at 16 and buy alcohol at 21.
In the UK you can drive at 17 and buy alcohol at 18
Lighter alcohol (beer, wine) 16, rest 18
Voting 18, driving 18
Thats how its where im from. So it doesnt have a lot to do with what age is appropriate
In Italy you can vote, drive and drink at 18.
@@alessandrodelogu7931 at the same time?
Honestly, 16 year olds shouldn't drive either.
Idk why but listening to this narration and hearing her voice and her eloquent vocabulary makes me tear up inside
One of the reasons why I like to watch TED-Ed videos is that usually it doesn't give exact answer to the questions🙂most of all I like those videos about solving different riddles
As an official old person (44), I was a hormonal psycho until I was about 25. I've heard that is when the brain is done developing. I don't think it's a coincidence.
As you get older maturity gets less correlated with age.
Wow, no wonder my parents fight like little children over the littlest things. 🙄
When you start to get excited over things like getting a new vacuum
I'm just 14 currently and it doesn't feel like I am often partially when I compare myself with others my age but I seem to get along with adults quite well. I know I'm still growing and people older than me will have likely learnt things I haven't but I do feel like I matured too quickly and this has been both a good and bad thing for me but overall I'm happy to be who I am now.
To anyone who read this thanks and know that there's always a chance of a better future, I hope you have a good day/night and life.
Some great changes come in life after 35 I think this is the time of maturity to come in next few years
I am nearly 19, I don't drive (even though I took driver's license) and don't vote because aren't things that interest me. I think that especially voting is essential, yes of course, but it can be easily influenced as we saw in history and continue to see in modern one
The answer, as always, is: it depends. However, there is a fairly clear range with a set minimum.
A part of me is 17, another part is 25, another one is 30, and one is about 70. None of that is my real age. 🙃
Insurance actuarial tables show the majority of people finish mental development at 25. A cutoff based on practical data is the best way to measure it.
When you assume your actions have consequences be it good or bad.Great video aswell✌🏽
but good and bad is different among cultures
@@Pfyzer on some stuff yes,in general no.If you see your drunk,all cultures say:dont drive.Some things are common sense
That happens at like age 5
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Getting old is compulsory, growing up is optional 😱
Really like the intro, debates are fun to watch.
Great video!! Amazing production and theme, as always. But I really missed the debate about Minimum Age of Detention and Criminal Responsability on this one.
All of the brain research is subject to bias from the conditioning of social expectations. Some people develop in contrarian manners throughout, and some of these are trauma conditions(borderline personality disorder).
Maturity comes with the acceptance of responsibility.
My mom told me when I was out of her house lol. I left for college at 19 and I’m a freshman currently.
Amazing content as always... thank you so much 🤗
Some ted ed topics are really lame but we still watch it coz we trust it would still be informative
I think that true maturity comes at the moment when a person realizes his responsibility. With a driver's license, we are responsible for others on the road. With voting - for political consequences (to an extent of course). ✋
The argument in the beginning is ridiculously broken: "I was born several minutes later than my brother therefore the voting age should be lowered to 16".
Lolwut? Whoever makes such an argument clearly isn't fit for voting regardless of the biological age.
Chillax. It was a script - not a real person sincerely making that argument. 😆
@@loki2240 You don't say!
The script presented a perfect example of someone who wants to vote but shouldn't, while trying to ponder the idea of lowering the voting age in a balanced way.
@@SergTTL Why shouldn't they be allowed to vote?
And because you give some personal anecdote about how you weren't ready to vote at their age, remember that not everyone is like you.
I’m almost 29 and if I think about the decisions I made even at the age of 26, I cringe at myself. *WHAT* was I thinking? How was that a normal thing to do?
Good question to ask yourself 🤣
Well I'm 30 and don't really feel like I'm there yet haha
I really understand now at 16 their brains are not quite fully matured but at 18 their brains as fully control over their own actions 😮
Great video!! Amazing production and theme, as always!
I'll share this video with my teen students. Hoping for a nice discussion! 😉
A beautiful evasion of the question thats has sparked my curiosity for so long.
Countries: 18, 20, 21.
Mother Nature: when you hit puberty.
Wouldint it be when puberty ends? Since thats when you are at your peak physique...
Men don't get a full beard or thick chest hair until their mid 20s, meaning that mother nature doesn't consider you a fully developed individual until your mid 20s.
Even if they lowered the voting age to 16, she'd still be complaining because her brother would still be eligible to vote a year before her, he'll always be eligible a year earlier because he was born before midnight on election-day and she was born after. 😒
I think we should focus on knowledge about political parties and their proposals, not on how old we are.
I remember having a lot of "ah-ha!" moments at 26. And I became way more patient in my 30s.
In the US, you are treated like a child until you are 21.
Well if you're in Asian countries, you're a child as long as your parents are still there.
In East Asia, you are treated like a child until you're married
@@GreenFoxLuama That would explain all the adults at the kids table.
It’s actually 25 . Most policies are for 25 year olds . You’ll see
except when they need soldiers
I was 19 when I moved out but still endure the’so when you moving back home’?
I’m a Toys-R-Us kid. I have been on this earth for over 40 years but still appear to be about 17.
It’s a Neverland thing.
The girl in this video demonstrated her immaturity by arguing that age 18 is arbitrary but saying voting should be at 16 years old. 16 is just another arbitrary number!! True maturity would understand this and make a different proposal than something based on what they are arguing against!
I saw the age of 18 as a deadline, to get my act together.
then to solve this issue of "Voting competentcy", just give to test for each category of competency of a set minimum so that we have "a license" to vote instead of having to rely on an arbitrary number that doesn't prove our adulthood.
The problem with establishing voting tests is that they tend to discourage voting for a sizable amount of people, and depending on how hard they are a politician could try to weed out groups that they think will vote against them
There used to be similar tests in the US, except what they mainly did was keep minorities unable to vote despite new laws allowing them to do so. The same thing would likely happen if implemented again
You don't seem to know very much about testing (general limitations or the history of abuse with voting tests in particular).
@@bobbyferg9173 This is easily solved by having everyone be allowed to vote after a certain age, and those before it being allowed to vote if they can pass a basic civics test.
Well, this video just dropped on my 18th birthday
happy birthday
happy birthday man
Happy birthday!
When you sleep wrong for 5min and get neck pain for rest of the week ಠ︵ಠ
Well i think it starts somewhere around 25-30 yo.
lady: makes good points
guy: ingnores
narrator: you both make good arguements
Love the effort❤
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I am 12 and I still hope I am still in my childhood and while most evidence from even google shows that childhood ends at 18 , some also say that it ends at 13 I hope that is not true
Around 25 and living on your own it´s a good start for official adulthood, good time to start voting, and being aware how bad politicians can hurt you.
0:49 that could be useful when she turns 18 and is eligible to vote. The age of voting in the past wasn’t always 18 but 21. What we don’t do is completely rewrite law to accommodate for a select group of people. Because she wants the voting age to be 16, 13 year olds are gonna want to vote at their age
Some 18 years old are like 25 years old
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My Parents started to getting along well, well!
I’ve a love hate relationship with lowering the voting age. I agree teenagers should have a say considering whatever gets chosen when they’re 16 will affect them when they’re adults. However, what I believed at 16 drastically chnaged at 18 and even more so in my mid 20s to the point where my ideas of politics were quite dangerous at 16 and would not have liked for someone like me to be allowed to vote then! At 16 you’re rebellious and you’re exploring so many things including your identity and you’re so easily influenced by peers or parents.
To be honest, I don't think that a lot of the arguments people keep giving for lowering the voting age to 16 stack up:
"They can get married." Not without parental consent they can't.
"They can join the army." They still can't take part in frontline combat though.
"They can pay taxes." But how many of them are actually earning enough to? Because you'd almost certainly have to be working full time in order to reach the threshold for paying tax and I very much doubt that many 16 year olds are!
"It's their future." Then why should it be 16 specifically? Don't under 16s have a future as well? You have to draw the line somewhere!
So, I'm 17, gonna be 18 in 19 days (b. June 29th, 2005, comment posted on June 10th, 2023). My opinion on that bit at the beginning about 16-year-olds being old enough to vote if they're old enough to drive, is that they're not. Most consequences of poor driving are personal (like hitting a lamp post & having to pay a fine for it). There are consequences of poor driving like wrecking someone's else's car & killing them, but these can be avoided if one remains attentive & sober.
Voting has national consequences, and there are developmental differences between the brains of 16- & 18-year-olds. An 18-year-old is more likely than a 16-year-old to consider the full implications of voting for a certain candidate. So let's keep the status quo in this regard.
I was also born in June 29th!
my body is 25, my mind is still 16
Facts
I’m 16 and I act either act like I’m 5 or I’m 24
@@Aaa-vp6ugthat’s what being 16 kind of is
Means you're behind in development
Seems like the answer to a lot of videos where the title is a question is "we don't know, it depends."
When you walk uphill both ways to school in 22 feet of snow barefoot.
while fighting off a pack of wolves..
@@AtlanticPicture - ...ridden by Orcs.
@@loki2240 😂 didn't see that one coming
Where does ted ed get their music from? It makes my brain happy.
This is like my brother and sister were born in September, and had to wait a year to start kindergarten.
This would be an early age discrimination.
When i act like a 11 yo at 18 🗿
you're not alone, i see it happen in tiktok a lot, heck look at Logan Paul
How funny that we want to push the age of responsibility as late as possible but the age for participating in society's decisions earlier.
That doesnt make sense
You can legally vote at 17 if your 17 and 10 months , in America
"I was born five minutes later, so I can't vote!"
"I was born fifteen minutes earlier, so I can!"
"The voting age should be changed to 16!"
...That doesn't solve the problem. You'd just be making this argument earlier.
What is the age of maturity? Last two digits of fractional part of the "π"
0:36 If it were lowered to 16, or any other age, or for that matter raised to any age, you’d still have people who would just miss the cut. (By the way, I missed voting in the 2002 midterm elections by just under a day and a half: 33 hours and 33 minutes to be precise, though I suppose I can appreciate the symmetry of that number.)
When you say dad jokes unironically
In my country, many crimes or dangerous actions are done by teens or 20s. Some of them spend their lifetime in the prison. So 16 or 18 or 20 is no matter here, none is maturity enough
The minimum voting age should be 25 when at least, ppl would have a glimpse of the consequence their actions
the conversation💀
What makes people grow and become adults
2:00 "a brain that is... fine tuned to their environment" So what youre sayin is that our brains are fine tuned when we are too young to be allowed any kind of autonomy of self; thus assurin our brains are fine tuned accordin to the wills of those in charge of our care.
Which is 100% why trauma brain is as bad as it is. Our brains have literally been wired from the start to respond very differently to normal stimuli which becomes embedded in the very gray matter of our brains and what we lack.
My own brain opted to cull all memories of my childhood bcuz memories and thinkin back on them and havin happy memories just wasnt a thing for me growin up. I had happy moments, but none that cud rly become memories bcuz of bein surrounded by trauma and abuse otherwise. Parental divorce early in childhood, followed by bein left with a p°°°, then the p°°° goin to prison, which meant movin to be with new and differently abusive ppl and on and on and on. I didnt get a semblance of stability and safety til i was around 23 and had a complete stranger take me in cuz they didnt want me havin to slp on the street. Twice more that wud happen to me in my 20s. Both times givin me time and space to recover but not rly to feel truly safe and distanced enuf from trauma til the third time... Which is when i finally came out and found my true self thatd been hidden so long.
Its still, five yrs later, all too hard to give into what i rly want without worry of everyones judgment and so much rlse. I do it, and i do it louder than most, but it still stings so hard otherwise and i struggle; just at home, with my partner(s), in relative peace, away from what the public can see bcuz i want the gen public to know that stiflin our humanity is wrong and we shud be allowed to exist fully and truly in all the ways that we exist.
Im super safe now tho and even moved thousands of ways and truly cut off from the ppl who hurt me... But their words and actions stay etched in my brain for i was forced to endure such in its formative yrs. I cant even remember their voices usually, but the dmg they did to my brain can nvr be undone as much as it is good at makin me forget what the actual pains were and how that felt
Funny thing, im lucky. Im lucky i cant remember, i feel so bad for those who go thru similar traumas and cant help but remember. Thats so much worse. Im glad i dont have to relive it, but i still wish i had some memory to at least know what childhood me was like before they bound and caged my inner self away with their abuse thrust on me
My sister turned 18 on November 6th 😁
When you put your responsibilities above your rights
Everyone reaches maturity at different ages technically 🤷♂️
love the animation and voice acting in this one