The one thing that didn't make sense to me in the story was the one guy who said that people were being 'duped' into eating these alternatives because of false labelling. I would think that clarity of labelling would be pretty much essential for the markets that these products are catering to, and it feels to me that there's no need to cast negative aspersions on the producers unless he actually has some numbers to back up what he's saying. Of course I should probably resign myself that what these products get called in the end will be more down to marketing and lobbying than anything.
The best solution? Call it "plant based meat altternative." Accurate, and clear. Of course, people will abbreviate the name in conversation and call it "plant based meat."
@@chrisgartenn Firstly, Im not a boy. Secondly, I own my choices and know full well what I have done and why and when I choose to eat an animal it is not because I think I own it.
Real meat heals. Changing my diet saved me from debilitating back pain, nerve pain, joint pain, muscle pain, digestive issues, raised blood pressure, 20kg over weight. It took around 8 months for all these problems to resolve. Since 2020 I've been completely pain free and never felt and looked healthier. I'm only eating fatty meats, seafood, eggs and dairy. Prior to that I was eating the mainstream version of a healthy diet (lots of veggies, fruit, whole grains, low fat, eating the rainbow etc) for decades and watching my health slowly decline. I learnt lots watching videos by Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Gary Fettke, Dr Benjamin Bikman, Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Dr Paul Mason etc. And these authors videos Diana Rodgers, Robb Wolf, Lierre Keith. I am concerned for the future health of our society.
Yeah the ruling elite don't want us healthy. This lab grown meat will not be a suitable substitute and will likely just another few health issues to the list. And their climate hysteria and shutting down the Dutch farmers is them showing their hand, will likely be how they try to scare us into this move, getting us off real meat just as it's benefits are becoming widely known.
Same. No restless legs, no depression, no arthritis pain, no pharmaceuticals in my diet, never go to a doctor, have lost weight and feel the best I've felt in my entire life.
My experience is the opposite to the OP. I used to eat meat and dairy but thought I was eating a healthy diet. I did drink soy milk, but got scared of soy so I quit. I then started using whey protein powder to try to gain muscle. I developed a lump in my chest. Breast cancer in men is rare, but possible. I went to my doctor, and he put me through a series of tests for cancer. I researched what I could eat to help my chances. The documentary "Forks Over Knives" convinced me. I dumped the whey and switched to a mostly Whole Food Plant Based vegan diet. By the time I was supposed to have a biopsy, they weren't able to get a sample, because my lump had shrunk so much. I felt so much more energy on my new diet, so I kept it. I then learned the facts about why others have gone fully vegan. I went 100% around the age of 60. I am now in my mid 60's, and never felt better. I get glowing reports from my doctor and need no prescriptions. Both my siblings have had heart disease, gall bladder removal, type 2 diabetes, cancer, or a combination. One is older than me, and one is younger.
The people you listed are taking advantage of the public's tendency to want to hear good news about their bad habits. Science tells a different story. "Eating just one serving of red meat can substantially increase risk of cardiovascular disease, a new study found. A serving of red meat that is eaten and digested in the intestinal tract results in gut microbes producing chemicals that increase the risk for cardiovascular disease by 22 percent, according to a study published in the medical journal Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology. The study, led by researchers at the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University and Cleveland Clinic Lerner Research Institute, aimed to quantify the risk of cardiovascular disease associated with meat intake and identify the underlying biologic reasons that may help explain the risk. The study involved almost 4,000 American men and women over age 65, with an average age of 73, and showed that higher meat consumption is linked to higher risk of cardiovascular disease-22 percent higher risk for approximately every 1.1 serving per day. About 10 percent of this elevated risk is explained by increased levels of three metabolites produced by gut bacteria from nutrients abundant in meat. In the study, higher risk and the link to gut bacterial metabolites were found for red meat specifically."- VegNews Title follows-"Red meat increases risk of cardiovascular disease by 22 percent" Subtitle and author follow- "A study of nearly 4,000 Americans shows that higher red meat consumption is linked to a higher risk of heart disease." by NICOLE AXWORTHY AUGUST 8, 2022
I still don't understand why Aussies don't just switch to sustainable wild game sources like roo and deer. No breeding required, low-fat and killed as mercifully as possible with headshots in the wild with exceptions only when necessary. And it helps the constantly-over-populating, starving roo's at the same time. It feels like a win-win for society but I'm sure some "animal right"s group would have some garbage to tell me about how bad it supposedly is. Either way, hoefully we'll see some luck with artificial meat technology in the future so we're all happy.
Spoiler alert if you haven't seen the movie "Soylent Green." Soylent is people. People are a type of animal. Eating a plant based diet is farther away from Soylent than a diet which includes meat made from dead animals.
12 years next month ethical Vegan Not extremely interested in most alternative meats tho... typically I eat some tofu products tho usually whole plant diet legumes grains
@bubbajones6907 i beg your pardon? What ethics are you suggesting I lesrn more about than chosing Veganism over murdering and exploiting the body parts and byproducts of animals? Are you an ethics expert on being an ethical Vegan? Or are you simply an ignorant troll?
It's incredible that two minutes there is talk of taste, texture, experience, flavour. Enjoyment. What about the nutrition? Kind of explains why everytime I pick up a meat alternative product up off the supermarket shelf, there is more things I cannot pronounce than I can. So yeah, remove the numbers lol
Look up what the chemical composition of meat is and you'll be presented with a similar list of unpronounceables. Not to mention hormones and the fact that the meat people eat is well into decomposition when consumed as well as the overuse of antibiotics. Just because the plant based option has to disclose all the components doesn't mean meat isn't similarly "unhealthy".
@@titovalasquesrass fed organic in moderation there is no replacement and it's genetic, humans evolved to thrive off meat, it is beyond emotions thoughts or feelings unfortunately, if you want to be malnourished and suboptimal go for it I commend you
@@jayr6637 Those who don't eat meat are significantly less likely to develop type 2 diabetes than meat eaters according to the Adventist Health Studies. Only one of several of the most common chronic diseases that we are less likely to develop. The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. *Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.* Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health
I'm here for the tribal wars in the comment section, You are all wrong for eating highly processed foods from the industrial complex of Woolworths and Coles. The only way to eat a clean and healthy diet is to become a breatharian or hold a single farmer you trust responsible for the health of your food, not the for-profit supply chain. P.S. The dog from the mushroom section at 11:52 looks like it really wants some meat.
The farmer you buy from is not motivated to give you the best advice about nutrition, nor does he have the knowledge. The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. *Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.* Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health
The dog looks hungry. Please tell us how you learned to read minds. Dogs are omnivores, and can thrive on a properly planned plant based diet. The longest living dog on record ate a plant based diet.
@@someguy2135 While the paper from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics presents a strong argument in favour of "appropriately planned vegetarian and vegan diets", it is essential to acknowledge potential counterarguments to maintain a balanced perspective on holistic diets. Individual Variation: The paper highlights the potential health benefits of plant-based diets, it is crucial to consider that nutrition is not a one-size-fits-all approach. People have different physiological needs, genetic makeup, and lifestyle factors that can influence how their bodies respond to different dietary patterns. What may be beneficial for one individual might not work as effectively for another. Genetic differences can impact how efficiently our bodies process and metabolize various nutrients, such as carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. Some people may be more prone to digest and absorb certain nutrients, while others may experience challenges in doing so. Yes people should eat more veg and have more varieties available, but going cold turkey in a single generation might not be the ideal way Nutrient Deficiencies: While plant-based diets can be nutritionally adequate (with careful planning), they can also pose challenges in obtaining certain essential nutrients like vitamin B12, iron, zinc, and omega-3 fatty acids. Conveniently these can be produced using industrial processing. Vitamin B12, in particular, is primarily found in animal products, and vegans might need to rely on fortified foods or supplements to meet their requirements. Vitamin B12 supplements are commonly produced through two main methods: 1. Microbial Fermentation: Many vitamin B12 supplements are derived through microbial fermentation. Bacteria are cultured in large-scale (industrial) fermentation tanks. These bacteria produce vitamin B12, which is then extracted and processed to create the supplement. 2. Animal-Derived Sources: Some B12 supplements are derived from animal sources, particularly the liver of certain animals. However, due to the popularity of vegetarian and vegan diets, the majority of commercially available B12 supplements are produced using the microbial fermentation method to cater to those with dietary restrictions. Why not have some liver occasionally rather than letting it go to waste. Failure to adequately address potential nutrient deficiencies could lead to adverse health effects over time and may not be noticed as an effect of diet change. Environmental Impact: While it is true that plant-based diets are generally more environmentally sustainable, completely eliminating animal products from the food system could have unintended consequences. When integrated into well-managed agricultural systems, certain livestock, such as grass-fed cattle, can contribute to ecosystem preservation, carbon sequestration, and nutrient cycling. Raising awareness of sustainable animal farming practices and encouraging responsible consumption of animal products might be a more balanced approach. Cultural and Social Considerations: Nutrition is not solely scientific; it is intertwined with cultural, social, and economic factors. For many communities around the world, certain animal products are essential components of traditional diets and have cultural significance. Advocating for a complete shift to plant-based diets without considering these cultural factors could lead to resistance and cultural disconnect between both tribes. Industry Influence: While your initial claim suggests that farmers might not be motivated to provide the best nutrition advice, it is also essential to recognize that the food industry, including the plant-based industry, can influence research and policy decisions. Bias can exist in research funding and presentation, potentially impacting the credibility of some nutrition studies. Don't worry I've seen MLA propaganda too, Goats seemed to only become trendy once the rural supplies products were produced for retail. (Goat pellets™, goat medicine™, goat fencing™, etc) In conclusion, while the paper from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics makes a strong case for the health and environmental benefits of plant-based diets, it is vital to recognize the complexity of nutrition and consider potential individual variations, nutrient deficiencies, environmental impact, cultural aspects, and industry influence when evaluating dietary choices. Beware of tribal propaganda and hearing only what you want to hear.
@@someguy2135 Cooking meat evolved my brain and these mushrooms told me how to interpret expressions of wants and intent. -"The stoned ape theory" by ethnobotanist and mystic Terence McKenna in his 1992 book Food of the Gods Bobi the oldest dog on record to ever live to the age of 30 was not plant-based. Leonel Costa his owner attributed Bobi's longevity to a "calm, peaceful environment" and consumption of fresh food rather than conventional kibble{highly processed dog food ™}. In honor of Bobi's 31st birthday, 100 guests were invited to celebrate the occasion which was marked by eating meat and fish with a performance by a troupe of dancers. The sad beginning is worth a thought, his brothers were all buried alive after birth due to Costa's father not wanting to take care of more animals. Since Bobi blended in with the wood at birth, Costa's father did not see him when he was collecting the puppies to bury.
@@titovalasques Swapping a high carb diet for a high protein diet will actually help with weight loss, will reduce your chances of heart disease and improve overall health!
Most vegans stop eating meat not because they dislike the taste or even the texture but because they're animal lovers and don't want to be part of the obscene cruelty that is animal agriculture.
I wonder why people are investing big money in this when there is no demand whatsoever. I guess they know something we don't. Too bad for the children.
Pretty simple if you take a moment to think about it. Eating meat at the scale we currently do is not sustainable, it's destroying the environment. People love meat, it's delicious, but not everyone wants to be part of the horrible animal suffering and the environmental damage that it causes.
Going vegan is the single most effective way for each of us to minimize our environmental footprint. "According to the most comprehensive analysis of farming’s impact on the planet, plant-based food is most effective at combatting climate change. Oxford University researcher Joseph Poore, who led the study, said adopting a vegan diet is “the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth.” “A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use. It is far bigger than cutting down on your flights or buying an electric car,” he explained, which would only reduce greenhouse gas“Avoiding consumption of animal products delivers far better environmental benefits than trying to purchase sustainable meat and dairy,” he added.”. -Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford. Joseph Poore switched to a plant based diet after seeing the results of the study. Links at my channel under "About.
@@LyndaHill and if animal agriculture was ceased ⅓ of all crop land could be returned to nature providing much needed habitat for endangered species. On the other hand if animal agriculture increases more and more land clearing will be needed. I grow my own vegetables, how many animals do you breed and slaughter yourself?
A person who follows a plant based diet uses 60% less CO2, uses 1/11 the fossil fuels, 1/13th the water, and 1/18th the land. (Source: Stanford edu) The most comprehensive meta-analysis conducted to date with 119 countries and 40,000 farms, shows avoiding animal products is the "SINGLE BIGGEST WAY" to reduce our environmental impact on Earth. -Oxford University
For me, that is incorrect. I no longer buy tomatoes, potatoes, onions, zucchinis, bricolli, pumpkin, bread, grains of any kind. I eat one small steak and two eggs a day. No nuts, no chocolate. Can you say that you consume so little? I no longer have arthritis, restless legs, itchy skin, digestive problems, I sleep really well and I'm slim again. I never go to the doctor, take no pharmaceuticals. How much of a burden is your diet on the planet compared to mine?
@@LyndaHill The variety of your diet is not important for your environmental footprint. The animals you eat consume a lot of crops, and use a lot of water and land.
@@LyndaHill An all meat diet gives you some temporary benefits since you stopped eating ultra processed foods. As with smoking, it takes decades for the chronic diseases to develop and for your lifespan to be shortened. As with some smokers, there are genetic outliers who get away with a lifetime of an unhealthy lifestyle.
@@babylon6847 The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. *Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.* Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health
@@babylon6847 Those who don't eat meat also live longer than those who do according to the peer reviewed Adventist Mortality Studies, which have a very large sample size over many years. The healthiest, most vibrant, longest living populations on Earth eat little or no meat. Blue Zone populations are the populations that National Geographic found to have the largest number of centenarians, and who had the most vitality in later years. The Blue Zone with the longest lifespan are the Seventh Day Adventists of Loma Linda California. They are taught that their bodies are temples and are encouraged to not eat meat. The vegans among them are the healthiest. They have the lowest chance among the SDA's of ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, and multiple types of cancer. Only the vegan dietary group among them had an average BMI in the recommended range. "SEE THAT YOUR DIET IS 95-100 PERCENT PLANT-BASED People in the blue zones eat an impressive variety of garden vegetables when they are in season, and then they pickle or dry the surplus to enjoy during the off-season. The best-of-the-best longevity foods are leafy greens such as spinach, kale, beet and turnip tops, chard, and collards. Combined with seasonal fruits and vegetables, whole grains, and beans dominate blue zones meals all year long. People in four of the five blue zones consume meat, but they do so sparingly, using it as a celebratory food, a small side, or a way to flavor dishes. *Research suggests that 30-year-old vegetarian Adventists will likely outlive their meat-eating counterparts by as many as eight years.* "-Blue Zones web site
Meat grown in a lab. Gee what could go wrong. I'd rather eat dirt. Interesting that it's come along at a time we are learning how fantastic carnivore diets are for ppl and how poisonous processed foods and carbs are.
@vegandawn Carbs are not essential to life, but protein is! Eating a small amount of carbs like in green leaf salads or the like is fine, but if you're eating mostly carbs, especially processed carbs & have a modern sedentry lifestyle, then they are the enemy... and will lead to diabetes and other terrible health outcomes!
@@jayr6637 Meanwhile protein and fats give us extremely even energy levels, clarity of mind, reversal of a laundry list of different auto immune ailments, gut issues and over the long term I would guess a huge number of life threatening diseases like diabetes, cancers, dementia etc...not exactly something the ruling elite wants, they make too much money from the food and pharmaceutical industries. We are worth more when we're sick. I'll bet everything I own that artificially grown meat will come with another host of ailments and probably an extra ingredient or two without our knowledge. There's already concerns about pharma pushing mRNA vaccines into the veterinary fields and it getting into the animals/meat we already eat. Then the climate hysteria and shutting down the Dutch farmers would be a good way to force this processed meat on the masses.
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The one thing that didn't make sense to me in the story was the one guy who said that people were being 'duped' into eating these alternatives because of false labelling. I would think that clarity of labelling would be pretty much essential for the markets that these products are catering to, and it feels to me that there's no need to cast negative aspersions on the producers unless he actually has some numbers to back up what he's saying.
Of course I should probably resign myself that what these products get called in the end will be more down to marketing and lobbying than anything.
The best solution? Call it "plant based meat altternative." Accurate, and clear. Of course, people will abbreviate the name in conversation and call it "plant based meat."
Found this absolutely fascinating and informative. As a meat eater who is looking for alternatives this was is a 'good to know' video to watch.
@@chrisgartenn Firstly, Im not a boy. Secondly, I own my choices and know full well what I have done and why and when I choose to eat an animal it is not because I think I own it.
Real meat heals.
Changing my diet saved me from debilitating back pain, nerve pain, joint pain, muscle pain, digestive issues, raised blood pressure, 20kg over weight. It took around 8 months for all these problems to resolve. Since 2020 I've been completely pain free and never felt and looked healthier.
I'm only eating fatty meats, seafood, eggs and dairy.
Prior to that I was eating the mainstream version of a healthy diet (lots of veggies, fruit, whole grains, low fat, eating the rainbow etc) for decades and watching my health slowly decline.
I learnt lots watching videos by Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Gary Fettke, Dr Benjamin Bikman, Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Dr Paul Mason etc.
And these authors videos Diana Rodgers, Robb Wolf, Lierre Keith.
I am concerned for the future health of our society.
Yeah the ruling elite don't want us healthy. This lab grown meat will not be a suitable substitute and will likely just another few health issues to the list. And their climate hysteria and shutting down the Dutch farmers is them showing their hand, will likely be how they try to scare us into this move, getting us off real meat just as it's benefits are becoming widely known.
Same. No restless legs, no depression, no arthritis pain, no pharmaceuticals in my diet, never go to a doctor, have lost weight and feel the best I've felt in my entire life.
Look at the list of ingredients on the majority of items in a supermarket, then research those ingredients......guarantee you won't touch it again.
My experience is the opposite to the OP. I used to eat meat and dairy but thought I was eating a healthy diet. I did drink soy milk, but got scared of soy so I quit. I then started using whey protein powder to try to gain muscle. I developed a lump in my chest. Breast cancer in men is rare, but possible. I went to my doctor, and he put me through a series of tests for cancer. I researched what I could eat to help my chances. The documentary "Forks Over Knives" convinced me. I dumped the whey and switched to a mostly Whole Food Plant Based vegan diet. By the time I was supposed to have a biopsy, they weren't able to get a sample, because my lump had shrunk so much. I felt so much more energy on my new diet, so I kept it. I then learned the facts about why others have gone fully vegan. I went 100% around the age of 60. I am now in my mid 60's, and never felt better. I get glowing reports from my doctor and need no prescriptions. Both my siblings have had heart disease, gall bladder removal, type 2 diabetes, cancer, or a combination. One is older than me, and one is younger.
The people you listed are taking advantage of the public's tendency to want to hear good news about their bad habits. Science tells a different story.
"Eating just one serving of red meat can substantially increase risk of cardiovascular disease, a new study found. A serving of red meat that is eaten and digested in the intestinal tract results in gut microbes producing chemicals that increase the risk for cardiovascular disease by 22 percent, according to a study published in the medical journal Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology.
The study, led by researchers at the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University and Cleveland Clinic Lerner Research Institute, aimed to quantify the risk of cardiovascular disease associated with meat intake and identify the underlying biologic reasons that may help explain the risk.
The study involved almost 4,000 American men and women over age 65, with an average age of 73, and showed that higher meat consumption is linked to higher risk of cardiovascular disease-22 percent higher risk for approximately every 1.1 serving per day. About 10 percent of this elevated risk is explained by increased levels of three metabolites produced by gut bacteria from nutrients abundant in meat. In the study, higher risk and the link to gut bacterial metabolites were found for red meat specifically."- VegNews
Title follows-"Red meat increases risk of cardiovascular disease by 22 percent"
Subtitle and author follow-
"A study of nearly 4,000 Americans shows that higher red meat consumption is linked to a higher risk of heart disease."
by NICOLE AXWORTHY
AUGUST 8, 2022
Too much industrial oils in fake meat
I still don't understand why Aussies don't just switch to sustainable wild game sources like roo and deer. No breeding required, low-fat and killed as mercifully as possible with headshots in the wild with exceptions only when necessary. And it helps the constantly-over-populating, starving roo's at the same time. It feels like a win-win for society but I'm sure some "animal right"s group would have some garbage to tell me about how bad it supposedly is. Either way, hoefully we'll see some luck with artificial meat technology in the future so we're all happy.
Green Soylent.
Spoiler alert if you haven't seen the movie "Soylent Green."
Soylent is people. People are a type of animal. Eating a plant based diet is farther away from Soylent than a diet which includes meat made from dead animals.
12 years next month ethical
Vegan
Not extremely interested in most alternative meats tho... typically I eat some tofu products tho usually whole plant diet legumes grains
Maybe you should learn about ethics.
@bubbajones6907 i beg your pardon?
What ethics are you suggesting I lesrn more about than chosing Veganism over murdering and exploiting the body parts and byproducts of animals? Are you an ethics expert on being an ethical Vegan? Or are you simply an ignorant troll?
Large numbers of animals are killed in the practice of plant agriculture. Do you ignore that?
@@LyndaHill You mean the cow I ate was dead? You must be a genius.
@bubbajones6907 It seems that you have no idea what my comment said. I'll make it clearer for you.
It's incredible that two minutes there is talk of taste, texture, experience, flavour. Enjoyment. What about the nutrition? Kind of explains why everytime I pick up a meat alternative product up off the supermarket shelf, there is more things I cannot pronounce than I can. So yeah, remove the numbers lol
Look up what the chemical composition of meat is and you'll be presented with a similar list of unpronounceables. Not to mention hormones and the fact that the meat people eat is well into decomposition when consumed as well as the overuse of antibiotics. Just because the plant based option has to disclose all the components doesn't mean meat isn't similarly "unhealthy".
@@titovalasquesrass fed organic in moderation there is no replacement and it's genetic, humans evolved to thrive off meat, it is beyond emotions thoughts or feelings unfortunately, if you want to be malnourished and suboptimal go for it I commend you
Those plant based things are just another way to bring on that beast diabeetus earlier in life!
@@jayr6637 Those who don't eat meat are significantly less likely to develop type 2 diabetes than meat eaters according to the Adventist Health Studies. Only one of several of the most common chronic diseases that we are less likely to develop. The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage.
*Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.*
Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health
@@atb12312 See my reply to jayr6637
Poison ☠️
I'm here for the tribal wars in the comment section, You are all wrong for eating highly processed foods from the industrial complex of Woolworths and Coles. The only way to eat a clean and healthy diet is to become a breatharian or hold a single farmer you trust responsible for the health of your food, not the for-profit supply chain.
P.S. The dog from the mushroom section at 11:52 looks like it really wants some meat.
Breatharian... sounds like a plan to help avoid overpopulation of the planet!
The farmer you buy from is not motivated to give you the best advice about nutrition, nor does he have the knowledge. The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage.
*Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.*
Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health
The dog looks hungry. Please tell us how you learned to read minds. Dogs are omnivores, and can thrive on a properly planned plant based diet. The longest living dog on record ate a plant based diet.
@@someguy2135 While the paper from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics presents a strong argument in favour of "appropriately planned vegetarian and vegan diets", it is essential to acknowledge potential counterarguments to maintain a balanced perspective on holistic diets.
Individual Variation: The paper highlights the potential health benefits of plant-based diets, it is crucial to consider that nutrition is not a one-size-fits-all approach. People have different physiological needs, genetic makeup, and lifestyle factors that can influence how their bodies respond to different dietary patterns. What may be beneficial for one individual might not work as effectively for another. Genetic differences can impact how efficiently our bodies process and metabolize various nutrients, such as carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. Some people may be more prone to digest and absorb certain nutrients, while others may experience challenges in doing so. Yes people should eat more veg and have more varieties available, but going cold turkey in a single generation might not be the ideal way
Nutrient Deficiencies: While plant-based diets can be nutritionally adequate (with careful planning), they can also pose challenges in obtaining certain essential nutrients like vitamin B12, iron, zinc, and omega-3 fatty acids. Conveniently these can be produced using industrial processing. Vitamin B12, in particular, is primarily found in animal products, and vegans might need to rely on fortified foods or supplements to meet their requirements. Vitamin B12 supplements are commonly produced through two main methods: 1. Microbial Fermentation: Many vitamin B12 supplements are derived through microbial fermentation. Bacteria are cultured in large-scale (industrial) fermentation tanks. These bacteria produce vitamin B12, which is then extracted and processed to create the supplement. 2. Animal-Derived Sources: Some B12 supplements are derived from animal sources, particularly the liver of certain animals. However, due to the popularity of vegetarian and vegan diets, the majority of commercially available B12 supplements are produced using the microbial fermentation method to cater to those with dietary restrictions. Why not have some liver occasionally rather than letting it go to waste. Failure to adequately address potential nutrient deficiencies could lead to adverse health effects over time and may not be noticed as an effect of diet change.
Environmental Impact: While it is true that plant-based diets are generally more environmentally sustainable, completely eliminating animal products from the food system could have unintended consequences. When integrated into well-managed agricultural systems, certain livestock, such as grass-fed cattle, can contribute to ecosystem preservation, carbon sequestration, and nutrient cycling. Raising awareness of sustainable animal farming practices and encouraging responsible consumption of animal products might be a more balanced approach.
Cultural and Social Considerations: Nutrition is not solely scientific; it is intertwined with cultural, social, and economic factors. For many communities around the world, certain animal products are essential components of traditional diets and have cultural significance. Advocating for a complete shift to plant-based diets without considering these cultural factors could lead to resistance and cultural disconnect between both tribes.
Industry Influence: While your initial claim suggests that farmers might not be motivated to provide the best nutrition advice, it is also essential to recognize that the food industry, including the plant-based industry, can influence research and policy decisions. Bias can exist in research funding and presentation, potentially impacting the credibility of some nutrition studies. Don't worry I've seen MLA propaganda too, Goats seemed to only become trendy once the rural supplies products were produced for retail. (Goat pellets™, goat medicine™, goat fencing™, etc)
In conclusion, while the paper from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics makes a strong case for the health and environmental benefits of plant-based diets, it is vital to recognize the complexity of nutrition and consider potential individual variations, nutrient deficiencies, environmental impact, cultural aspects, and industry influence when evaluating dietary choices. Beware of tribal propaganda and hearing only what you want to hear.
@@someguy2135 Cooking meat evolved my brain and these mushrooms told me how to interpret expressions of wants and intent. -"The stoned ape theory" by ethnobotanist and mystic Terence McKenna in his 1992 book Food of the Gods
Bobi the oldest dog on record to ever live to the age of 30 was not plant-based. Leonel Costa his owner attributed Bobi's longevity to a "calm, peaceful environment" and consumption of fresh food rather than conventional kibble{highly processed dog food ™}. In honor of Bobi's 31st birthday, 100 guests were invited to celebrate the occasion which was marked by eating meat and fish with a performance by a troupe of dancers.
The sad beginning is worth a thought, his brothers were all buried alive after birth due to Costa's father not wanting to take care of more animals. Since Bobi blended in with the wood at birth, Costa's father did not see him when he was collecting the puppies to bury.
First, stop marketing meat products like it is done for smoking advertising to help reduce the demand for the addictions!
I see they're still lying about the quality of their product.
You can't replicate the juicy fattie pieces in beef and pork. Coconut fat doesn't taste the same at all
I’m going to double my meat consumption
And with it you'll double your chances of heart disease, cancer and erectile dysfunction. Have a nice DAY!! ☺
@@titovalasques what makes you think I have a penis
doubling down on denial
weird response to other people's food choices
@@titovalasques Swapping a high carb diet for a high protein diet will actually help with weight loss, will reduce your chances of heart disease and improve overall health!
I don’t get it. Why do vegans want to eat ‘meat’?
Because it gives the flavour and texture without the killing.
@@zennydooSo they do want to eat meat.
@vegandawn So why eat fake meat that's made out of mushrooms? Why not just eat mushrooms?
They don't want to eat meat (dead animals), what a strange comment.
Most vegans stop eating meat not because they dislike the taste or even the texture but because they're animal lovers and don't want to be part of the obscene cruelty that is animal agriculture.
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I wonder why people are investing big money in this when there is no demand whatsoever. I guess they know something we don't. Too bad for the children.
Because animal agriculture for nearly 8 billion people isn't sustainable.
Pretty simple if you take a moment to think about it. Eating meat at the scale we currently do is not sustainable, it's destroying the environment. People love meat, it's delicious, but not everyone wants to be part of the horrible animal suffering and the environmental damage that it causes.
@@JC-pn2ur You ignored the obvious fact that there is no demand for fake meat. How do these creeps know they're going to make money out of it?
@@bubbajones6907 a small and growing market share, even while the products aren't yet as good as they will be, is not "no demand".
Going vegan is the single most effective way for each of us to minimize our environmental footprint.
"According to the most comprehensive analysis of farming’s impact on the planet, plant-based food is most effective at combatting climate change. Oxford University researcher Joseph Poore, who led the study, said adopting a vegan diet is “the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth.”
“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use. It is far bigger than cutting down on your flights or buying an electric car,” he explained, which would only reduce greenhouse gas“Avoiding consumption of animal products delivers far better environmental benefits than trying to purchase sustainable meat and dairy,” he added.”. -Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford.
Joseph Poore switched to a plant based diet after seeing the results of the study.
Links at my channel under "About.
How about we just get meat from the original source? Less adverse effects on humanity
What about the adverse effects on innocent animals?
@@Michelle_Emm What about the animals killed by agriculture?
@@LyndaHill you mean the animals killed harvesting all the grain that is fed to animals that are then slaughtered?
@Michelle_Emm Ah, yes, but, way more monoculture crops are grown to feed *you*.
@@LyndaHill and if animal agriculture was ceased ⅓ of all crop land could be returned to nature providing much needed habitat for endangered species. On the other hand if animal agriculture increases more and more land clearing will be needed. I grow my own vegetables, how many animals do you breed and slaughter yourself?
This obviously isn't suitable for children. Hopefully we can convince the blacks to eat this.
Convince the what now 🤨
@@ReddRubble coloureds?
@@bubbajones6907 Are you from the 1800s brother 🤨
Time for your nap I think gramps.
Soylent green.
Hardly. Soylent Green is meat.
Soylent green is actually human meat
@@terasmith2317 And humans are one species of animal.
@@someguy2135 what's your point? Your comment makes no sense in context to my comment
A person who follows a plant based diet uses 60% less CO2, uses 1/11 the fossil fuels, 1/13th the water, and 1/18th the land. (Source: Stanford edu)
The most comprehensive meta-analysis conducted to date with 119 countries and 40,000 farms, shows avoiding animal products is the "SINGLE BIGGEST WAY" to reduce our environmental impact on Earth.
-Oxford University
For me, that is incorrect. I no longer buy tomatoes, potatoes, onions, zucchinis, bricolli, pumpkin, bread, grains of any kind. I eat one small steak and two eggs a day. No nuts, no chocolate. Can you say that you consume so little? I no longer have arthritis, restless legs, itchy skin, digestive problems, I sleep really well and I'm slim again. I never go to the doctor, take no pharmaceuticals. How much of a burden is your diet on the planet compared to mine?
@@LyndaHill That is awesome. Keep it up & you'll keep diabeetus and dementia at bay well into old age!
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@@LyndaHill The variety of your diet is not important for your environmental footprint. The animals you eat consume a lot of crops, and use a lot of water and land.
@@LyndaHill An all meat diet gives you some temporary benefits since you stopped eating ultra processed foods. As with smoking, it takes decades for the chronic diseases to develop and for your lifespan to be shortened. As with some smokers, there are genetic outliers who get away with a lifetime of an unhealthy lifestyle.
No....just...no.
Yes...just...yes.
@@someguy2135 How's that malnutrition diet going?
@@babylon6847 The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.
These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage.
*Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.*
Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health
@@babylon6847 Those who don't eat meat also live longer than those who do according to the peer reviewed Adventist Mortality Studies, which have a very large sample size over many years. The healthiest, most vibrant, longest living populations on Earth eat little or no meat. Blue Zone populations are the populations that National Geographic found to have the largest number of centenarians, and who had the most vitality in later years. The Blue Zone with the longest lifespan are the Seventh Day Adventists of Loma Linda California. They are taught that their bodies are temples and are encouraged to not eat meat. The vegans among them are the healthiest. They have the lowest chance among the SDA's of ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, and multiple types of cancer. Only the vegan dietary group among them had an average BMI in the recommended range.
"SEE THAT YOUR DIET IS 95-100 PERCENT PLANT-BASED
People in the blue zones eat an impressive variety of garden vegetables when they are in season, and then they pickle or dry the surplus to enjoy during the off-season. The best-of-the-best longevity foods are leafy greens such as spinach, kale, beet and turnip tops, chard, and collards. Combined with seasonal fruits and vegetables, whole grains, and beans dominate blue zones meals all year long.
People in four of the five blue zones consume meat, but they do so sparingly, using it as a celebratory food, a small side, or a way to flavor dishes.
*Research suggests that 30-year-old vegetarian Adventists will likely outlive their meat-eating counterparts by as many as eight years.*
"-Blue Zones web site
Meat grown in a lab. Gee what could go wrong. I'd rather eat dirt. Interesting that it's come along at a time we are learning how fantastic carnivore diets are for ppl and how poisonous processed foods and carbs are.
Exactly.
@vegandawn Carbs are not essential to life, but protein is! Eating a small amount of carbs like in green leaf salads or the like is fine, but if you're eating mostly carbs, especially processed carbs & have a modern sedentry lifestyle, then they are the enemy... and will lead to diabetes and other terrible health outcomes!
@@jayr6637 Meanwhile protein and fats give us extremely even energy levels, clarity of mind, reversal of a laundry list of different auto immune ailments, gut issues and over the long term I would guess a huge number of life threatening diseases like diabetes, cancers, dementia etc...not exactly something the ruling elite wants, they make too much money from the food and pharmaceutical industries. We are worth more when we're sick. I'll bet everything I own that artificially grown meat will come with another host of ailments and probably an extra ingredient or two without our knowledge. There's already concerns about pharma pushing mRNA vaccines into the veterinary fields and it getting into the animals/meat we already eat. Then the climate hysteria and shutting down the Dutch farmers would be a good way to force this processed meat on the masses.