Is MIni LED Better than OLED!?
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2021
- What's the future of TVs - and will Mini LED and Micro LED TVs make OLED a thing of the past? I walkthrough everything you need to know about next-gen 4K, 8K, LED & OLED TVs coming in 2021!
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Hey Chaps! Reckon you'll upgrade your TV this year?? (and if so.. to what?)
I am thinking of upgrading to a 65 inch 4K TV
If everything goes smoothly
Sony XH90, or newer alternative
I really don't think I will. The CX is great, so it'll have to be something special (either that, or you convince me again 😂)
Eyeing up the 48” LG CX oled, you saying I should hold off and wait for this year’s releases?
I’ve upgraded to Sony xh90 (ps5 ready) so far so good.
Using LG 55" oled for about 4,5 years for watching and gaming... Still can't get used to its gorgeous image quality.
Same here I've owned a 65 b7 oled for over 3 years now and the picture still wows me..playing some games the hdr is awesome at times.
love it to play on my 65" c9 on series x. the picture quality is amazing af.
Same guys, I've just got the LG CX 65" and will be keeping it for another 7 years! We don't need upgrading anytime soon!! 🙌👌🔥
@Bobby Rubarb just check any content on 4k version of the TV in a store. It's best way to define if u want to upgrade 😉
@Bobby Rubarb you could accidentally spill water into your tvs air vents.. That should do it.. Oops time for an upgrade.
You give the best explanations about the different TVs, Oled, Qled, Mini and what not. Hard to really understand the technology, but I got the general idea. Thanks so much from HK.
1 million subscribers! Congrats! I always end up watching your videos even if I'm not subscribed. I will subscribe now!
Love your videos!! Also, it doesn’t hurt that you re pretty easy on the eyes as well. 😎😊🥰
MiniLED is definitely something to get excited about until microLED becomes affordable. LCDs can also suffer from image retention which can be similar to OLED burn-in but is much more rare and usually fixable. That said, this is the 1st gen of miniLED TVs coming from big brands (apart from TCL which you rarely find in Europe) so I'm a bit cautious. Usually things are significantly improved when 2nd gen hits and I know too well how it feels to be an early adopter. Even so, it is exciting to see how things are evolving.
Ayyy! 1 million! Congrats. 😁
good
He deserve it
Hey dawid
Great show! When you start getting some of these new models in for review, could you please cover using the TVs as monitors. Mainly, show examples of TEXT. This is an area often just briefly touched on by reviewers. Showing a full page of text would be great, so we can see what it looks like.
I just got a c1 48" as a monitor, I sit about 60cm away. Text looks great, like a normal monitor. It really is the best monitor (leaving aside burn in risk)
@@Tom--Ace I picked up the same one about a month ago. I currently have a 4k monitor but the picture quality on the OLED and the contrast are pretty noticeable improvements. Are there any particular precautions you take while using it as a monitor? I'm leaning toward just sticking to my 4k monitor for most desktop usage, and then the TV for gaming / movies. I will definitely not be able to afford an upgrade for 4-5 years, so I want to be super careful about how I use it. However, the convenience of being able to use it for a desktop is tempting.
Excellent run down on the technologies. We spent a ton of money on a 75" 8k QLED in 2019, which we absolutely love. Great picture, and with our sound bar, excellent cinematic sound. Undoubtedly some of these are now better, but by the time we change TV again, which might be 5 years or more, who knows what technology we'll be talking about then! P.S. Congrats on the million subs...well deserved 👏
Just purchased (still waiting for delivery) LG C9. Chose C9 over CX for brighter panel (and less aggressive ABL), DTS support, and true HDMI 2.1. the only thing I miss from CX is 120 hz BFI, but according to end users it is apparently not that necessary due to the near instant pixel response time of OLEDs. This will be the first TV I ever own/purchase (only had parents' TV before)
Next TV will be MicroLED for sure. But that is some significant time in the future. 😅
Already got the CX a few days back and I'm loving it. Expect/hope for it to last me until MicroLED becomes viable and affordable in the mass market as that would almost certainly be worth buying a new set for.
Not going be for 10 years min
LOOOOL your oled will burn in in 2 years, talking about waitint till MICROLED 😂😂😂 you will change 3 OLEd TV's by then
Congrats on 1M subs.
Love ur content
Congrats Chap! 1 MILL!!! :D WOO!
Times have changed a little this year. I managed to get the 48" C1, for just under $1000. The pricing is definitely heading in the right direction and I definitely think its kind of in the mainstream price range now. It was a black "Friday" (was actually the whole of November) deal but still, it's one of the best deals on TVs I have ever gotten. I had a 2020 TU7000 ($450) before as my main monitor temporarily after building my PC because of budget constraints (Don't worry it's not wasted - it's in a different room now) and the OLED is definitely more than twice as good, especially for gaming! It's one of those rare times when I felt like I robbed the store!
Whoa it was $999? Got one for $1100 on the last day of December. It's back up to $1300 for now.
@@overnightdelivery in South Africa it was for November that price. I think they where being highly aggressive with sales. Literally every place that sold them where discounting them to that price. But still $1100 is still a pretty great price and isn't that much more. Now though it's back up to the retail price, which is $1300.
I've got the 55' nanocell 79. Mainly use it for gaming and have been very impressed.
Must’ve been an over sized load delivery
Awesome edit quality as usual-keep up the good work btw congrats for hitting 1 million subs🙂........
Congrats for 1mil🎉🤘💥
In November 2018 I purchased a Samsung Q9FN 75" (QLED). I have been very happy with it and I just saw this video on it! Still quite an amazing TV - backlight on level 50 lights up my living room like a tiny sun. I am also very happy about the external One Connect Box. The design is perhaps a bit dated for a "flagship" model today. In the future, perhaps 2 years from now, I might replace it with new tech. It seems it might not be OLED.
I bought the same one at the same time but in 65" and it is the lack of an external connect box what kept me away from buying an LG OLED till today! I want to be able to mount my tv gapless to the wall and connect all my equipement to that external box! So as long as LG don't give me that possibility I stuck with my Samsung-QLED or switch to a mini LED from Samsung as soon as it's available
i didnt get why this Samsung LCDs were that expensive and didnt even support 4k120Hz/Gsync.
I got for half the price of a QLED a OLED with a better and faster smart TV software and ofc a better picture quality, especially in modes where the QLED dont use local dimming or for proper HDR stuff
Still on my 1080p Edge-LED from ~2011. OLED would be nice to have but i hesitate spending 1300 Euro+ as i rarely watch TV nowadays
I lave of 55 cx in my room and love it! With the best full motion wall mount that extends out so much! Wish LG has more apps tho!:(
Very impressed with the update, thanks
Just bought X900h this past holiday. I think it has less than 40 dimming zones but Sony’s processing does a good job. I game heavily with screens that have static elements so I didn’t want to chance OLED. I’m hoping to ride this Sony out to the point where microLED becomes mass market.
Got the CX oled 65" and freaking love it. Best viewing and gaming experience I've ever had
Glad to hear it, I've just ordered mine, it's 55" tho
Hey Ya Duduki, I'm sorry that you ordered OLED, my TV OLED burned out after 2 years of use, stains appeared in the center and in the corner of the screen. I wait for Microled from Phillips, OLED in the trash.
@@UgonHarleev Stains? That's image retention.
Any burn in?
@@RJ-cv2uw none at all! Still best decision I ever made
Thanks for schooling me on tvs!👍
Congratulations on 1 million!!!
This video really help looking at all the TVs in the market and the new lineups coming soon.
Just got the BX. It is amazing!
Congrats on 1M :D
I just started shopping for a new tv, no particular hurry as room won't be ready for 6 months. Qled, Oled, man on man this video came at the right time.
I don’t really watch tv that often, but the one in my living room is a regular 1080p LCD. The monitor I use is 4k, though
congrats for 1 million sub
I own the 65" B7 OLED TV. Love it had it 2+ years. What I've gathered from this video is, that I won't be upgrading until MicroLED is readily available at a decent price.
Thanks for the nfo, tech chap!
I love my LG CX 48' so the upgrade would have to be very dramatic
I love myncx 65
Facts
2021 won't offer any dramatic changes only cheap gimmicks to push newer devices with minimal differences. The only "upgrade" to 2021 is the Sony X90J if you're looking to upgrade from an old device but imo LG CX is still king.
I've never had an issue with burn-in on OLED either, but it will be great to see how Mini LEDs will look. I have the 77" CX, and I'm blown away by it, so it'll take some beating (for me) this year.
You claim to "never had an issue with burn-in on OLED". How long have you had the LG Cx tv for?
I’ve also never had an issue with burn in and I’ve had 3 generations of OLED.
@@Cz007_ I’ve had the C7, C9 and CX over the last few years. So I can confidently say, I’ve had no burn in.
@@SpawnPoiint yeah but its seems to me your buying a new Tv every other year. The average consumers isnt going to be doing that. Especially if its for a tv that cost around 2 grand.
Ridiculous comment, now here's one from someone who doesn't replace their TV every 12 months. I have a 2017 55" B7 OLED and it started to show burn in (RUclips scrub bar and what looks like maybe an icon from a game or app).
Before you say it I watched mixed media (live broadcasts, movies and games), always had pixel shifter on, backlight at 70, in addition to pixel refreshing once a month and although it is also hooked up to my PC on a second screen I run Actual Multiple Monitors with a time out of 60 seconds (TV will then go to screensaver) as I was so paranoid about burn in.
Even with all this babysitting errors like this can still manifest and what's worse I actually got the TV in April 2018 (discount on the outgoing last year's model), so it's not even 3 years old.
Love your content.
That's some detailed review right there.
Uma nova imersão da imagem e som ainda melhores
what do you use for those amazing 'screensavers' ?
I bought my lg led cs 55" after seeing one of your videos. And its the best thing I bought in the last 10 years.
I have a 2012 42" Panasonic LED television. I'm primarily considering getting a 55" or 65" Sony A90J although the price might be a hinderance. The mini-LED models are intriguing so I will wait to watch reviews of all of them to help finalize my decision.
I've just got the LG CX 65" and will be keeping it for another 6-7 years! No need upgrading anytime soon!! 🙌👌🔥
Av1 codec will force u to change
@@fredyfredo2724 Nope. Nice try though. 👏😂😂
@@SaladinSnake88 it's not a trap. It's the standard in april. U will be unable to watch netflix in 8k
@@fredyfredo2724 8k is not worth it unless there are added bonuses. There needs to be something revolutionary like HDR that comes with it.
in 2 or 3 years, its probably that tv has burn in
Haven't you all seen old Sci-fi movies?
CRT gonna make a comeback, baby.
I would absolutely LOVE that, 4K CRT with ZERO LAG and inbuilt variable refresh rate. YES PLEASE
😂 And giant computers that display 1980's graphics as well for some reason.
crt sucks. you life in the past.
glad we left it behind i say this as a 47 year old man
Can't beat a good old CRT
Plasma TVs still beat out any mini led TV
I got an oled! And I never looked back! I'm on my 2nd oled! Upgraded from the 55inch C9 to a 65inch GX! My advice to people is get one for yourself and not listen to everyone else. My C9 is still running strong! No burn in, no nothing! 😉
Very interesting, very informative!👍
The one thing nobody mentions about OLED is no screen flicker. Granted, most LED TVs flicker so fast you can't see it, but it does cause eye strain (for me, at least). I notice a big difference using a flickerless monitor compared to an LED TV. That being said, Sony LED TVs tend to be the best in terms little or no backlight flicker.
Every screen flickers it's called refresh rate
@@emperoroftheuniverse8841 I am talking about the backlight, not the panel. Refresh rate is the number of times in one second the image is updated on the panel.
@@alexandrusava642 Another advantage of OLED is perfect viewing angle. as an LCD owner it's the only advantage of OLEDs that I miss on my LCD.
This is true, I am using the Sony x720e 43" 4k tv as a monitor and its really good, rtings rates it as flicker free, my eyes notice flicker easily so its mandatory for me, still waiting for a good upgrade candidate and these mini led tv's look promising as long as they can be produced flicker free. The sad part about tv's is they tend to be 50"+ now, not seeing as many 40" options like the past
@@alexandrusava642 easy fix is pushing the brightness to its maximum. The PWM signal should be a straight line so no flicker anymore.
Other than that, using continuous voltage instead of PWM is possible. I guess good old incandescent light bulbs give you eye strain as they flicker at 50/60Hz only.
Congrats on the 1 million brother, you definitely deserve it for the beautiful, informational and visually pleasing videos!
I’m in the 3% in that I have an LG OLED but I’ve had it for 4 years now! I still love it and there’s no sign of any burn in! If I was to upgrade it would still have to be OLED but maybe 65 “. Plus, mine is only 1080p so I’d be hoping to see an improvement with 4K. 😜👍
I currently have the 65" H9G. I'm hoping that the mini-led comes in a 75". I'll be one happy camper if it does‼️😊🤞🏾
I'm glad you mentioned the local dimming algorithm, because it's absolutely KEY to mini LED technology working, and is an IMPOSSIBLY BIG processing overhead. I think the mini LED TVs we'll end up with will be far from perfect, and OLED will remain the only solution for great contrast. It's just such an elegant technology.
It shouldn't have a big processing overhead. You'd just analyze the frame, and activate them based on a specific brightness level. It's as easy as creating a mathematical curve to compensate for color differences. The REAL problem is it's still never going to be as good as OLED. And the only real problem for OLED is making panels with 100% functioning pixels. All companies really need to do is to segment panel production into smaller more efficient groups to lessen production losses on large screens. So for example, making only 100x56 pixel panels (for 16:9 resolution), and allowing them to be stacked/plugged in side by side. This can be done virtually seamlessly by testing each panel part before assembling it onto a substrate that will be the screen covering, which will ensure everything is seamlessly lined up. So a pixel on a 100x56 OLED panel is bad? You throw it out, with a very small loss, maybe you lose 50 cents in production cost instead of $500 for having to throw out 4K pixels worth of screen because some pixels are dead. This would make OLED infinitely cheaper, and modular, allowing them to use a single fabrication process to make every type of screen resolution.
Every passing year makes it more evident that LED cannot replicate per pixel illumination. Just cant go back to how bad black and bloom looks on LEDs.
@@amesasw I think you may be surprised how difficult it is to tell mini led apart from OLED.
Apple is using it on their new iPad pro.
@@soreloser6018 On iPad Pro it's not that difficult to tell, if it is LCD or OLED but purely based on a bright scene, maybe yes it's not simple but iPad Pro uses IPS+mini leds, so an expected contrast between dimming zones is around 4000:1-6000:1. It's not enough. The modern tv sets VA+mini leds have got around 20000:1 contrast ratio, it's quite good.
@@amesasw Yes and no. In very dark scenes there is a blooming, no question but such scenes are very rare (like star field, face contours or human figures at deep night), maybe around 15-60 sec per movie. In relatively dark scenes it's already very difficult to tell, if it is mini leds at work or OLED. 20000:1 contrast between dimming zones is not a joke.
No prob with my brightness on my B9 I bought last year.
Just recently upgraded to an LG CX48" OLED TV and its great! I love it so I probably wont upgrade for a long time. The only thing I could think off is at summer here in Sweden the sun dont go down and maybe its will be a pain in the ass with the brightness. If its too bad then I may have to consider changing.
Congratulations Tom on 1 million subs
I just bought a LG CX 55"
And verry happy with it!
Combined with the Xbox seriesX :)
I will wait a wile befor buying a new mini or micro led tv.
yeah it's going to be a solid 10 years before micro LED is available at good prices, these youtube guys are skipping way ahead with this shit
@@savannahkorben7353 👌 i agree.
But i am happy with
what has to come..
in yeah lets say 10years for me 😉
@@savannahkorben7353 yeah it's a disservice really. I just bought an oled and I'm glad I did. I almost didn't because these clowns had me sold on waiting for microled.
Don't get me wrong, that tech will be awesome, but I'm not waiting a decade to buy a premium set.
Im using LG CX for now. I think I have some time to next change. :)
4 to five years
Me too
Congrats on the million subs man, you truly deserve it! Great video btw! I'm still on the bench about buying a new monitor at the moment at I'm waiting for smaller (28" UW) PC monitors to PROPERLY do 1000nit HDR!
Got a 55" B9 OLED from LG and not in a hurry to upgrade. Maybe in 4 years time, but I'm happy with it thus far.
I just upgraded from a pos Skyworth UHD LED smart TV to a Philips 4k UHD LED performance series Android TV... Honestly, the picture is awesome even tho it's just LED and the "ambilight" feature is something I didnt know I wanted 😂... It has all one needs of the essentials (youtube, netflix rokuten tv come as standard) , chromecast is built in and since it is Android everything you need Google Play offers (I even have a wireless controler for a spot of gaming on ye ol telly 😂)... Simply brilliant, see no real reason to go OLED or MINILED
What model is it please? I’m thinking about buying a Phillips ambilight for my apartment in Spain
@@dannykl6883 TV 43" Philips 43PUS8545 Android Ambilight 👍
Still have my Panasonic V10 58 inch plasma I bought back in April 2010.. Great picture and no burn in.
LMAO! No that's not a 'great picture.' That's literally last century technology that can only reach 1080p. Thanks for the laugh though. Did you genuinely not realize that even 4K is a huge increase in picture quality over anything that's just HD? So funny.
@@ObakuZenCenter Sure it is. Plasmas on the higher end had great pictures. They are not the OLEDS of today but they have great colors and good contrast levels. Now if you actually comprehended what I was saying was I still like mine and never compared mine to the newer technology so before you try to be a smartass try actually paying attention what you read.
My Pansonic VT30 plasma has screen burn now. Glad yours is still going!
Sony Bravia OLED TVs no burn in better ball levels than QLED Sony Bravia Trlumnios LED TVs and Mini LED.
1 million subs Congratz dude
I have lg super nano 86 best TV I ever own beautiful picture specially for sport. Love your videos Tom keep them coming
No, it's not. Micro LED now that could turn the entire industry to a whole new level but that's plenty of years from now
I mean technically it’s now. There are home installs of it. But for mass market it’s certainly years away
@@Adam-vx6to yeah technically if you're a millionaire it's available.
lcd is already so good you cant tell the difference in a dim lit room. unless the content is made for oled which there is barley any you cant tell unless its in a pitch black room.
cant wait to see TCL 6 series this year, hopefully they keep the prices down
Did you end up getting it? I ended up getting it but I returned it because the years previous was good enough. I can ride rat not getting it though because it has 120 Hz
I've got LG B6 Oled tv, I've had it from new and it is stuffing from Burn in. You can see were sky tv has been paused. Its probably taken its toll over time.
Very informative, thank you!
The application of these new technologies for monitors is also pretty exciting. Right now OLED is kind of a no-go because of the risk of burn in with all the static elements present on a pc screen. Something like micro-led in a monitor would be a gigantic upgrade in picture quality compared to even high end lcd screens currently available.
Bingo. Just the massive PC market is going to give Mini-LED and Micro-LED the leg up for market dominance. As you said, PC use cases have so many goddamn static elements that you're extremely likely to cause if not burn in, really ugly image retention. And things like Automatic Backlight Limiters are a no-go for PC use. That would be hugely disruptive and distracting. It also doesn't help that OLEDs do not have better text reproduction than LCDs due to their RGBW subpixel structure.
Whenever I see people saying they want to use a 40" OLED as a monitor I shudder
@@StopWars420 LG does not make a 40" TV and Sony makes a 48" (the smallest) which they buy the panels from LG
Have to agree to disagree that OLED's are no go because of risk of burn in on TV but maybe that is not the case with PC, Biggest upgrade on quality picture image TVs is to buy the OLED itself from LG as Sony, Samsung, and Vizio supply in some models but panels supplied by LG. With prices dropping significantly in US (6 months after this video) for LG OLED not seeing the reason to jump into mice-LED.
Linus from Linus Tech Tips has used an LG CX 48 inch as a monitor for 2 years and he has zero image retention
Micro LED will be hugely more expensive than OLED and it will be for a long time.
Micro LED yes but not mini LED
Problem is that contrast is the one advantage that OLED has above LED. Currently, I'd say OLED is a dying technology. In a few years, those who want a premium experience will go for Micro LED. And those who don't have the money for that will go for Mini LED, which is significantly cheaper than OLED and will offer a contrast almost as good, while having far higher brightness.
LG seems to be trying to make OLED cheaper, but it's taking them a while and whether they can offer the same quality as current OLED panels remains to be seen (though I think it's likely that they won't). Even then it'll likely still be more expensive than Mini LED. I don't really see OLED overcoming its barriers before LCD technology catches up. Maybe if there were a ton of companies making OLED screens, but LG is pretty much the only major one.
@@thenonexistinghero oled is in no way a dying tech. It’s in every premium tv and phone. It’s the dominant premium display tech and will be for many more years until microled is developed for mass market
@@thenonexistinghero "LG seems to be trying to make OLED cheaper, but it's taking them a while and whether they can offer the same quality as current OLED panels remains to be seen"
uhh bro you do realize LG supplies the OLED panels for other companies, right? Sony uses LG panels for instance...
@@thenonexistinghero oled is not a dying technology what are you talking about?? 🤔it still has the best picture quality on tvs. it is still a few yrs away until micro led will become affordable. at the very least oled has like 3 or 4 good yrs to go and they might make a big improvement to oled tech too I the next few yrs there is going to be QD oled tvs in maybe 2022 or 2023.
Great video!! I recently moved house and had to buy a new TV.. after a lot of deliberating and research.. undecided to go for the Samsung Q90T.. which I love.. it's a great TV for my use case (it's in a very bright room!) And I wanted something that could support the Xbox series X... Bit I agree with your video, Micro LED do seem to be game changers.. so if they are as good as we are expecting.. all the benefits of OLED with none of the drawbacks.. (and brighter).. then I think I'll be looking to move to one in a few years!👍🏻
Your awesome man!
I'm trying to get my LG oled repaired atm, I wont be buying one again anytime soon so i'm pleased to see this video! Screen burn* 🔥
Same but I could never go back to LCD. I'll get it repaired on my 5yr warranty as many times as it takes. And only buy a new one if it comes with a similar warranty.
@@zantesh I'm waiting to see if they do it :/ I heard the position of the electronics inside can actually speed up the process and looking at my set this does check out! I've said this to them, time will tell. It's a B7
How long and what conditions took place before you saw burn-in? I'm almost ready to pull the trigger but while I watch mainly movies my wife's viewing habits, I'm afraid would lead to it. And she watches a lot more TV than I do.
Once you go OLED though , it's really hard to go back.
Brightness on OLEDs is different though. When I max brightness on my OLED , it seers my eyeballs , NOT because it's too bright , but because it's so vivid and rich.
Brightness on LCD is just brighter , but not brighter than OLED , it's just brighter and washed out.
@@JoseByronGonzalez Edit: Got my TV back a week later from teamknowhow. The panel has been replaced with the new CX 10 series panel.
Works great, has its original glow back.
Well my burn in happened just after the first year of heavy use, maybe 10 hours per day, I tried not to use it for gaming or for pc use, as a lot of static objects.
Then out of the blue, with no prior warning, I start to see a discoloured blob on more yellow scenes, in the center of the screen about 20cm across.
From what i've read, its something to do with the board components getting hot and damaging the oled. If your going to buy one of these amazing screens, make sure you get a good solid warranty.
I have a really good ips lcd screen next to the lg c9 and it doesnt even touch it, however the LCD was miles better than my old tv.
I wanted oled because of the black levels, I fell in love when I seen the hdr and the way lights looked natural and it even gives objects in my room their own shadows, it brings immersion to another level.
I like to keep brightness levels low anyway. It's the blacks that makes OLED the top dog in my opinion.
If I turned my B9 up all the way it would hurt my eyes.
Yeah playing Forza Horizon 4 in HDR the car headlights are shining in my room the effect is just crazy
LG C9 65”. Very happy with that tv.
I just got my 65in vizio oled..I love it 😃
I’m still happy with my legOledc6 curved n 3D, which is unique.
P.S
I had to dream fucking whole 2 years to buy it though.
The bit that is rarely covered in miniled videos the fact that picture quality and local dimming takes an absolute nose dive when put into game mode. All the advanced algorithms have to be neutered in order to achieve low input lag so you lose very thing you pay for. This is not the case with OLEDs
Not with sony ✌🏻
@@gangnamchild6310 Yes, that includes Sony. All LED TVs turn off local dimming when in game mode by default. That or input lag will be in the 300+ millisecond range.
I got to ask, where did you get that lava lamp screensaver for your oled?
just upgraded my ten yr old Philips lcd 42 inch, to the new 48inch OLED 806 model. the picture and 4 sided ambilight is a vast improvement and gives an awesome picture. The sound quality with the on board 50w 2:1 subwoofer system is great too, so l hope this technology will last me for another 10yrs too!
Don’t think I could go back to led tv 🤣 Sony 55 ag9 @ moment 👍
same here, this tv beats any other oled in the market right now with that overpowered x1 ultimate chip. plus it won king of TV, I don't think I need to upgrade for another 5 maybe 10 years🤔
I'm on the af9. Not gonna upgrade for a long long time.
Burn in is indeed a major issue for OLED's, especially after the 1.5 - 2 year mark. Many that I know have had burn in issues and now it's finally happened to me. A good 30% of the red pixels around the center of my 65" C7 have started fading slowly over time. It's left very noticeable blotches and is also making white skin tones look a pale zombie green. Everywhere else looks totally fine, just not in the middle of the display.
I've been running pixel refresher at all the recommended times and have also been very cautious about static images. My guess is that a static blob from people talking center screen has formed over time. So OLED buyers beware.
I'm excited about these new TV's though. Glad to see comparable options come to market because I didn't want to go OLED again for my replacement.
That’s a good real world experience that seems more relevant then LG saying burn in only happens in certain cases of watching the same content hours on end.
Yeah the way they downplay burn-in without actually making hard statements is very telling. It's frankly not a marketable tech to anyone who cares whether a TV is disposable, and OLEDS are disposable. They know it happens, and they legally say as much.
Das Problem ist das sie den pixelrefresher regelmäßig benutzt haben. Man sollte den TV auch nicht vom Strom trennen, da er im Standby Modus die Pixel kalibriert. Der pixelrefresher sollte nur benutzt werden wenn etwas eingebrannt ist.
@@krehbein it shouldn't even matter if someone were to "watch" the same content for hours. All of these OLEDs have a PC mode and we all know that a PC has a plethora of static interfaces.
I've had deniers (99% sure they're RUclips users being paid by manufacturers) tell me not to use the TV in a wrong way and it won't happen. Essentially, the way they were approaching this issue was a margin away from genuine online bullying. With that said, OLEDs clearly don't have a long lifespan when it comes to their optimal operating conditions.
Zero burn-in on my C9 after 3 years with heavy usage + PC usage + PS4 Pro and PS5 gaming for tons of hours with HUD at high brightness. I feel sorry for people still thinking OLED has burn-in issues. LCD has TONS of issues, which are present on DAY ONE. This is why OLED is used in all flagship products now, except for Samsung which still scams it's customers with garbage LCD, however they are doing MicroLED and OLED soon too. My C9 looks as impressive today as it did 1st time I turned it on. Jawdropping image quality. Never ever going back to LCD thats for sure. LCD will be considered entry level only soon. Cheap and dated tech which relies 100% on proper backlighting but even with FALD and tons of zones it does not even come close to OLED (but costs more when FALD with several hundred zones are used). Sad but true. LCD is a joke.
I’m still rocking my LG Plasma which is coming up on 8 years old (cost £600) and absolutely love it. I have yet to see anything that is worth upgrading to that doesn’t cost an absolute fortune. My only gripe is it’s 50 inch however at the time that was the biggest available. Mini/micro LED looks like it could be an option in the future.
I like your brown tv cabinet!!! where did you buy it? 😜 hahha great 👍
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I'm waiting for Micro LED to be available to the mainstream for a decent price, I have a QLED at the moment the Q70R which is not the best but still a decent one until Micro LED is below $2000 for the 55 inch model. I hope they start making Mini LED monitors since we need that. LCD monitors are straight up garbage with extremely bad black uniformity and bad contrast even on the high end.
Meanwhile I'm still using plasma TV.
Meanwhile I'm still using a CRT 🤣🤣🤣
Ive got oled but man I miss my Panasonic plasma
And I'm Still using my Panasonic plasma ZT60
@@Rickline84 had a gt and zt and both amazing and still handled standard content better than the oleds ive had I reckon
@@galaxydave69 thanks for that . I think I'll wait a bit before buying OLED
I have qled 70t samsung.. Is there a big difference to uodate my tv?
Last week I bought my brand new 65 inch lg oled cx for €1850 a great price and I love the TV!
Yay more stuff some of us can’t afford
I'd say "most" of us. All these tech channels and gadget people are literally either selling to or feeding off the 1%
at least it will be in stock
Ikr. I'm looking at the bottom rung as an upgrade. 😂
I really don't get this obsession with brightness lately, I have a 2020 HZ2000 OLED and never have my luminance above 70% and contrast at 80%, more than that and it burns my eyeballs out.
i got a samsung Qled one happy with it.1 million congrats
Great video! Thank you!
And no burn-in. But I still love my LG OLED
The best 👌
Thinking of buying a tv, reckon I’ll go OLED... no wait, mini LED... no wait micro LED. If I buy this is nano LED going to come out? So confused when to finally spend my cash with full on replacement tech fear. 😩
Microled should be the next tech that dethrones oled(providing oled tech levels off).
Samsung is nowhere near ready to make that panel affordable to the masses.
My guess is 8 years min before that happens. My gut tells me longer.
Micro led is years away and will be way more expensive than oled which are coming down in price year by year.
If you do get a led screen make sure it has a va panel with full array.
I just returned a q90a which was mini led 50 inch.
But Samsung decided to swap out the va for ips to save money 2019 qleds where better than anything now.
Oled is the way to go.
Unless you can find a old plasma.
Don't be tricked into the fancy tech nonsense a good TV from 10 years ago will wipe the floor with most led garbage including mini led
What's the screen saver on the set in the background? Is that built into the TV?
Hi, bought a Sony A8 last year. It’s connected solely through WiFi as I stream all my tv, I have Sonos beam and s1 speakers for surround. The problem is my tv has started to take between 10 and 30 mins to get a picture once turned on. Any ideas why or what I can do to resolve this. Thanks.
I think a lot of OLED innovation has been in transparent panels, bendable/rollable, and they’ve been getting thinner.
LG display showed off a prototype of a bendable TV so you can have a curved tv for gaming and a flat TV for movies all in one. We’ll see if any tv manufacturers actually pick that up though.
LED/LCD innovation is focused on catching up to OLED picture quality while OLED innovation is mostly focused on form factor.
I am using LG CX 55" as a PC Monitor.
Hi,what is the TV cabinet you use in your lounge? I was just watching your OLED Vs Mini LED and I'm keen to know!
I got the TCL mini led and games looks great.But recently I bought the LG CX 48"
Going to have to wait for micro-led if you want to match the quality of OLED.
I’ll probably give micro-led a shot when it comes around at a reasonable price but I’m sticking with OLED for now.
OLED tech itself seems like it could be cool for futuristic display stuff(windows that are also displays, a display that wraps around your wrist). The innovation in OLED is in areas not really needed in TVs such as the bendable and transparent displays.
P.S. loving my 55” LG CX. I honestly watch more content than ever before just because I want to admire the tv lol
If they could reduce size of backlight leds, but that would require some large steps in tech. Oled is still the best by far. Burn in is not a big issue per today and bright rooms can always be adjusted to some extent. Even the price point of Oleds are way better than what they were.
You dont need more than 8k tv guarantee unless watching on giant screen. 4k is enough and tough
@@The-illuminated never stated that you need 8k, though i agree.
@@simpleboy3457 i know many people isn't going to get you far. Give me a graph where production year, type of usage and brand is weighted. Then I'll consider your statement.
EDIT: After a reread i realise my statement is as factless as yours. So no need to bring up numbers.
My Sony A8H is bright enough for me. Generally I love watching tv in low lit environments and I couldn’t possibly imagine watching anything brighter than it is. I even sometimes need to go to Dolby Vision Dark. The thought alone of going brother gives me a headache but absolutely to each their own.