The end of NHS dentistry? | NHS Dentistry Crisis. Bupa Closes dental practices.
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- The end of NHS dentistry? | NHS Dentistry Crisis. Bupa Closes dental practices.
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I’m an NHS dentist and it is almost certainly dying now. It’s sad to see but it’s definitely not going quietly, we’re trying hard to keep it afloat! :) I’ve got 3500 patients and my next appointment for treatment is October. It’s very stressful
I wouldnt worry.. people power is starting to catch up with politics.. it'll become an election issue immenently. Well done for sticking in there.
Really? You, all of you are the cause of this......
Well then let's go back to the old days where people would have all their teeth removed to avoid denist bills. Natural teeth are more trouble then they're worth anyway
Hello! Love your educational vids. Can you please do a video on dental hygiene and therapy earnings in the UK (NHS and private) I know this will vary but I can’t find any info on this on youtube. Ps. I will start my first year as a DHT student in Newcastle University this September!!! 😁
Thanks for the suggestion. I will reach out to therapists and see if we can make this video happen.
ok, but (for example) an implant costs average : £2,000 UK , £550 Poland ,
cost for a porcelain crown in the UK costs between £650 and £800 ; again, in poland : £150.
So, clearly we cannot be talking about cost of materials differences ? Clearly its not power, since we all use same power billed at international rates.
Its worth noting that a hotel in Poland is £25/night and the flight is around £50-£100.
I'm not saying people should fly all the way to Poland.. but clearly people in desperate need it is a solution for them perhaps many haven't considered. Sorry state of affairs though.. perhaps an investigation into what is breaking dentisry in the UK is needed and why it is so expensive. ? I had root treatment+crown , price came in at just over a cool 2k GBP and not many can afford to just drop that kind of sum.
Maybe HMgov in the meantime until they sort out NHS dentistry should be paying for Brits who desperately need treatment to fly to Poland or somwhere cheap but with good standards like Poland to have that treatment there instead.
my personal view is health workers/industry want to make a lot of money (who doesnt, its totally understandable). They're highly skilled people. The problem is.. their client (joe public on average salary) isn't able to pay that. Like the care industry that caters for elderly people ... the money isn't actually there with the client.. they cannot afford it. Thats why we have a universal insurance scheme called the NHS. The problem is even the NHS cannot afford to pay these eye watering sums across the population. So, I think gov arranged medical tourism might have to be a fix to release the pressure. That, and we have to improve health of the nation.
But I mean, gov could and should put more money into NHS denistry asap , but at the end of the day a dentist that is private is a business like any business and business is there to make money first and foremost. So, I cannot understand how the NHS can compete with private income these business can make from their private clients.
Im 70 years old and i have fillings that have fallen out, a couple of broken teeth and a temporary filling ive had for a year... At 70 years old no dentist is interested in taking me on with a payment scheme... In pain and relying on painkillers, where do i go and what do i do?? I don't have the money for private treatment????
Try looking abroad where it is vastly cheaper and the standards are still good... perhaps a east european nation. Hotels costs are vastly cheaper too. Research whole cost. Flight can be as little as £50 , hotel 25/night. But most importantly.. ensure that dentist is good.
Maybe its because The overall average dentist's salary in the UK is £50,838. Thats why nhs isnt profitable enough for them.
Not true!!!!! An NHS part-time dentist in my area is making more and he works PART - TIME !!!!! They are paid like kings....
I was NHS through BUPA and had a lot of dentist over the last few years, now they have a locum to days a week for emergencies only for NHS patients! The NHS model doesn't work anymore
The problem here is not the NHS model, even if not the best, the real problem in your experience is that large dental corporates now are experiencing shortage of dentists due to the extremely toxic working environment that the companies have created in most of their practices. Most dentists won't touch large dental corporates with a barge pole and the ones who try, normally leave after a few months, hence your experience.
no.. we absolutely need to keep the NHS model. Thats a con to get us into an american system where there isnt universal coverage. Its the way they've privatised everything else.. wont work with NHS though.. people neeed it.. they wont put up with it being gone.
Hi. Thank you for this informative video. I am an overseas Dentist working towards UK license exams
Can you please tell me if private dental practices hire overseas dentists? Thank you
Yes, private practices definitely take on foreign trained dentists.
I disagree with the majority here, I find that the NHS model is still workable for now: however I would never work with a large dental company for several reasons. If a dentist is a dedicated person with decent skills, who wants to earn good money without having to squeeze every penny out of their patients, I would say that NHS is better than private. Besides private treatment can still be advised and performed even if the list is NHS. This aside, the whole healthcare industry is in severe crisis in the UK, but this has nothing to do with money; to put it bluntly, this country needs to rethink the way it perceives, and treat, its healthcare professionals and staff. As a union representative said last year " you could double their salary overnight but junior doctors will still leave", it is not about splashing some money here and there: the whole system needs changing, but politicians are not interested.
You're joking, right? What NHS ??? What is working ??? Is all trash.......
Sir do you earn 300000 pound sterlings a year as a dentist? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.
45, 000 staring to around 170,000 seems to be the range some on more but not many on 300k
he dont
Depends on how many patients you have in private dentistry, if no patients come to see you then no money. It is not guaranteed Patients like NHS, so pointless to discuss exact earning since there is no guarantee at all
Look at what they are driving. Good pointer.
Would this technically be a beneficial thing for dentists (financially) in the sense that they can only work privately and hence have a higher wage
Depends on what you mean by private, to do private treatment dentists have to go through a lot more post grad training which may cost several throusand, if pursuing dental implants dentists may spend more than 100k pounds just for extra training. So in short term definitely made less than NHS dentists. 😅or made nothing ? 😂 but how much you make pretty much depends on how many people come to see you, which is hard to estimate. Risk involved definitely, if you charge 3k for a dental implant , and you have several thousand people waiting for you then great. But you may end up have no patients coming for that expensive treatment so you make 0 despite having spent so much pn machines materials trainings ….
@@user-du5vn6rp4u that's crazy ! Thanks for lettingme know
@@aoy1889 NHs Means no risk, guaranteed patients flow, private treatment means taking risks, not guaranteed patients. So greater risk comes with higher potential. If you are lucky put all your money into stock market probably becoming bill gates next week but you may end up losing everything
@@user-du5vn6rp4u lots of people need treatment for dentistry though.
Well it would be beneficial to us patients to do what our ancestors and remove all our teeth to avoid private dentist bills for those of us that cannot afford it. Natural teeth are more trouble then they're worth
Slowly but surely nhs dentistry is dying
I love bupa
Bet the patients of bupa practices that have closed wouldn't say that.
What about children? How can you justify charging children??????
It's dentists doing only private work and lack of government funding that is destroying NHS dentistry.
That includes you if your only doing private work.didnt you go private sir
Dentists are doing only private work because of a lack of government funding to keep up with material costs.
@@badgasaurus4211 I did say about the lack of government funding .and obviously the pay is better doing private work.
@@melgrant7404 I know, but the way you phrased things made it sound like they are two separate factors that are destroying NHS dentistry but the former is being caused in part by the latter. The funding isn’t keeping up with inflation which is causing people to relinquish their NHS contracts
@@badgasaurus4211 didn't dispute that but the fact remains dentists are primarily concerned about how much money they can make and to hell with the patients effectively. The result is the same.
@@melgrant7404 That may be public perception but you have to remember people have wages to pay and overheads to fund, you don’t go through 5 years + of rigorous training to make a loss or break even.
There’s other reasons to ditch the NHS anyway such as the hassle that is prior approval and the mess that is the SDR.
Don't forget the migrants all get fast track dental care!
they don’t , it’s propaganda .. the only ppl who are cared for are ppl with money