MPW // How to Record an Upright Piano \\ Astraea
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In this video we go through:
How to record an upright piano and get a great sound
Recording techniques for Upright pianos
How to mic an upright piano and which mics to use when recording
What gear you need to get a great sound which recording an upright piano
What is phasing and how to avoid phasing when recording
Matched pair microphones
Which Preamps to use when recording an upright piano
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All mics sound amazing
You're super knowledgeable
Thank you Astraea. This is quite possibly the best real world home recording of keys Ive seen. I generally avoid any key recording videos done in acoustically treated pro studios.
Thanks for this. Your keys sound amazing.
Im now a fan.
Ahh thank you! That's so lovely to hear :)
Thank you for the nice tips. The best tip I got from your video is to play with the different mic settings and to use matching mics until you get the sound that is good for you. You can always tweak it later on, of course, but catching the sound in the right positions is crucial if you're aiming for good quality 🙏🏻
This is exactly the information I was looking for - thank you so much for making this vid!
Glad it helped! :)
Sounds incredible and this is a great demonstration of what to try, how to do it, and why it makes a difference. I've only ever done pairs in the front, and never thought to use pencil condenser mics for that. That seems so obvious in retrospect, lol. Great choice with the C414's in the back, which unsurprisingly sound amazing.
Glad you liked it! :)
Great tutorial. I need to record an upright piano this summer and will try this four mic method. Thanks!
Glad it helped! :)
the back sounds great. but the mix between both is really great. Thanks for the tips 😊
Great explanation! I've never tried put mics behind my upright.
Glad you found it useful 😃
You should use either the 414 pair, or the 451 pair. When you combine them, you are getting comb filtering and other. phase problems because when the sound board is vibrating toward one pair, it is vibrating away from the other pair. Combining them will add frequency cancellations.
she covers phase issues in the video
Just spent 2hrs listening RUclips tutorials on how to mic my upright better than what I have been doing so far in my studio (2 1960's Neumann/Gefell Omnis measurement mics) and this video is literally the only example that sounds good and the piano is in tune (sorta);)
cute… i have those sdc mics. been trying ribbons, very smooth. sounds echoey in there!
I really struggles doing the recording with my piano but this one's surely gonna help me out thanks!
Great 😃
Amazing :)
Great tips! Will have to try out micing the back
Glad it helped! :)
Might be cool with a room mic as well. Seemed a bit contained. I like my piano to sound a bit more live, but that will depend on how you like the acoustics of your room. Could just use one ribbon if all your matched pairs are in use. You will also have the option to double the recording in your daw and flip the phase of one, and then hard pan both to give you a wide stereo veiw of your room, on a figure 8 ribbon.
I also like to mic my piano in back as well. Thanks for the tips. 👍
My living room doesn't have the best acoustics haha so I probably don't want a heck of a lot of room sound. I prefer to apply the reverb I like afterward. But in future if I have a better space for my piano I'll have to try that out!
the tuning is impeccable
youre kidding right? lol
that sounds incredible! The front & back together.. unreal
Thanks so much :)
Great setup! I like how you isolated with the couch cushions!
Gotta make do with what you have! Glad you liked it :)
Thank you so much for that!
This sounds amazing but I'm afraid I can't afford the $4k for all 4 mics. So let's say I'm just trying to casually record and want to buy only a single microphone. Would you recommend a single 452 b in the front or a single c414 in the back?
Great video
May i have a suggestion, if you already have a matched pair on the string, you just need one microphone in omni position or figure 8 in the back and you can use the other as a room reverb mic, because of the phase issue you can have some trouble using 2 pair back and front, but just three mics should be fine like the decca tree position, for this last it's very common in classic music recording to have an over head front cardio and two surround back in omni position, it work fine in lot of situation and can be expand with close mic.
I'll definitely have to try this at some point!
I think that's a lovely set up for 4 mics on a piano.
Wonderful tutorial! Thank you so much!
You are welcome!
Very informative! Thanks!
Glad it was useful 😃
fantastic video very informative thank you!
Amazing sound. Thx for tips
Every string is its own sound source, so I'm afraid it's basically impossible to apply the 3:1 rule when close miking a piano with 2 mics. Also this whole 3:1 "rule" is based on so many assumptions that you are probably better off just using your ears.
If you wanna make sure no phase cancellation occurs, use a coincident pair, such as XY or MS. Or if you want to stick to a spaced pair, the only way to be absolutely sure is to check every string's phase one by one. Or just accept the fact that phase cancellation happens with spaced pair.
Yes, so the question is how can you use the inevitable phase cancellation to the benefit of your instrument? It’s one of the most confounding aspects of recording with multiple mics, and why some of us prefer mono drums
Great Video. thank you.
Great video! Thanks so much!
I like the sound a lot!
Super helpful thank you.
Nice piano sound. From your experience, do I really need the $2000 Apollo interface? Should my $200 Focusrite Scarlett interface give a good sound? (So far, not much luck, but I am just beginning. I have a matched pair of AKG 214s.) Thanks
Thank you, great advices!
Thanks i was going to record with 2 diferent microphones instead of my 2 match pair
Great video! I struggled with pedal noise as well trying to capture the low end from the front so I ended up ditching it all together, but I didn't even think to mic from the rear. I'll definitely give that a go! Thanks!
Pedal noise is such a pain. While you can still hear some pedal noise from the rear, it's less annoying imo and such a warmer tone. My favorite!
Great video and explanations! Thanks for sharing your insights
Very good informative and well presented video and nice playing too, thank you.
Thank you!
Like just back mics was so nice and then both front and back… damn. that’s like a good cappuccino. Could you do one mic in front and one in back? Like you were listening to someone on stage and the piano is turned to the side.
Thank God a tutorial recording a piano sounds great! It's not so common...
Hope you find it useful, Lawence :)
Sounds great
Dude this was sick
Thanks for explaining! You are so great! Keep up the good work! Is it okay to mic up an upright piano by just using the 2 condenser mics in the front?
This is very helpful 👌🥰👍
So glad to hear thank you :)
Is that a Fazer piano? It looks very much like mine. If so, Fazers sound incredible! 😁
It's a Hupfeld Carmen. I recently sold it though and upgraded to a Kawai :)
Would you recommend dual AT2020s for a budget setup? I'm planning to record classical piano on a Yamaha upright so I was thinking they would be the best cheap option to capture a warmer tone
Thank you!
tnx 4 review
Can i get the same result or nearly maybe if i just use earphone / headphone ? because i dont have that mic.
I want to buy 2 microfones for recording my piano. But wich is the best choise? 2 large diaphragm microphones or 2 small diaphragm microphones?
If you’re just talking 2 matched microphones
I’d say small diaphragm condenser microphones would be the most traditional
oh shes rich ! .. matched pairs.. UAD... but why the 119/121 cm upright ?
If you only have one matched pair would you recommend micing the front or the back first?
Depends what sound you’re going for.
I agree with what Dom says below, it really depends on what tone you're looking for. If you're looking for a warmer, darker tone, mic the back. That's my preference. But if you want a brighter tone that cuts through a mix really well or you like more of the sound of the mechanics of the piano, mic the front first.
Here to learn something but yet stumble on something I already know. Are there better ways? I don't need to naked my piano for a recording.
which piano is this
Thanks for isolating the pairs. The fronts are quite "uprighty" whereas the backs hide that quality a bit. The phase between the pairs is good; they combine really well. I think I will copy this setup 😅
Glad it was helpful :)
Piano needs a cheeky little tune there I think :). Really useful video though.
I got a new piano from best choices products with headphones and microphone.
nice! i'll put that mics in front of my mouth.
goddess, thanks
I knew Anne Hathaway can sing but I never knew she also played piano 😄 Looks and sounds just like her
I really hate this approach recording a piano. Then I hear low tones on the left and high tones on the right. The instrument doesn't sound homogeneous. Тhе pair in front of the piano we see in this video could be supporting mics but anyway the instrument need a stereo set - XY or AB - as a main technique.
Piano is out of tune, not 442