The man commentator didnt say anything about it tho the woman didn’t know nothing about the rules and got it all wrong they shouldn’t let women commentate on boxing and this is is not once that they had big mistakes like this (no hate to women commentators but they are just not right for the job)
@@kyeperkins5346 I suppose they shouldn't let male doctors work on fights either as he started getting into the ring and so he clearly didnt know the rules either. This is not once that a male doctor has made a mistake. (no hate to male doctors but they are just not right for the job)
@@JsTravels1 I get ya, but its not really his fault, his opponent was a fan watching him do a public workout as there was no other options available , can hardly put a chisora in with him with no notice and can't expect him to take on a well schooled fighter in his first fight without a chance to study him , if that bloke wasn't a licensed boxer in that crowd the whole show would have been scrapped , I sure Frazer will soon enough be in there with a test as he only needs a couple of fights to be at British title level
The mistake the ref made was doing the no knockdown as soon as the fighter went down. You gotta make them get back to their feet and then do the signal so the judges know it wasnt a knockdown
The problem is the sign refs use for no knockdown is similar to waving it off. But the ref was right here. Generally no knockdown is the ref waving below his waist but not directly over the fighter's face. But from some angles it probably looked like the ref was waving directly over him. Probably shouldn't have waved his hands that much though as it mislead everyone.
Brooo where is the world going? These commentators don't even know the rules or the signs a Referee has to make. He clearly gave the signal not a knockdown. When a Referee waves it of he has to put the hands over his head if he puts his hands to the ground it means not a knockdown. Fire these commentators and get some people who have actual knowledge of the sport
There were people bringing the stools in as well. It clearly wasnt just the commentators that were confused. And surely seeing the stools coming in wouldve just further convinced the commentators it was over
It was a legit knock down. Bad call by the ref which resulted in Torrez getting injured. Hopefully it doesn't open up in future cuts. The fight should have been called off. He is just a journey man
Torrez has what it takes to become world champion with the right trainer his movement is good, he gets under punches as well slip them and he gets arround his opps like loma with the footwork in three years of studying the pro craft and hard work he can become a world champion,I will be listening for his name to be called among the greats, and looking out for his fights.the only big man that moves the way he do is fury and he is on the way out usik is to so in three years guess who's name they will be calling.
1 year already and he is nothing close to that. Let's be honest he is nothing close to beat the top dogs of HW, Fury, Usyl, AJ, etc. He would get punish bad!
I see how everyone got confused here, the personnel with the stools, the commentators, even the ringside doctor. The referee waved his hands at chest level, if he was signaling the no knock-down rule, his hands should have been emphatically and clearly at or below waist level. If, on the other hand he is signaling that he is stopping the fight, his hands should be above his head, just like he did at the end, but some referees do it above the shoulder, also if possible, must remove the mouthpiece of the defeated fighter which is a clear and definitive indication that he is stopping the fight, again just like he did at the end. The referee's hand signal was kind of vague and ambiguous, add to that the condition of Allen Melson and the punishment he was taking, hence the confusion.
▶️5:48Melson got up after 12 seconds 🥊 _Realise it's a 10-count and not 10 seconds_ ▶️6:16Ref signalled no KD, did not wave it off ▶️6:49seemingly caused the cut, or headbutt❔
I think if Torrez can master Tysons style he'll go along way...I see him as Tysonesque fighter...and I really like him...as a fighter and a person...I'm excited about his career...From the UK
If the referee waved his hands above his head it’s a knockout if he waves his hand below his head it’s a slip no knockdown. This is professional boxing get a professional commentator
Learn the rules. He signaled not a knockdown since he had his hands under his waist. If he waved it of he puts his hands over his head. All this was caused by people who don't have boxing knowledge, the commentators and the ringside doctors
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My congratulation to Richard, good luck to Torres for the future career,your fans from Uzbekistan!!!
The ref did not “wave off the fight.” He signalled that it was no knock down, that it was a slip. Commentator needs to learn the rules.
The man commentator didnt say anything about it tho the woman didn’t know nothing about the rules and got it all wrong they shouldn’t let women commentate on boxing and this is is not once that they had big mistakes like this (no hate to women commentators but they are just not right for the job)
It was both of them,the other commentator would've corrected her if he knew the rules
@@kyeperkins5346
That comment is hate to female commentators, though 😂 It's like you didn't read your own comment
@@kyeperkins5346 I suppose they shouldn't let male doctors work on fights either as he started getting into the ring and so he clearly didnt know the rules either. This is not once that a male doctor has made a mistake. (no hate to male doctors but they are just not right for the job)
Guessing by your logic everybody else who came in the ring didn't know the rules either
Torrez debut better than Frazer Clarke's debut, Torrez fought a legit boxer
But would you put money on Torrez to beat him ?
Frazer wanted to to be fair but everyone keep pulling out
@@JsTravels1 I get ya, but its not really his fault, his opponent was a fan watching him do a public workout as there was no other options available , can hardly put a chisora in with him with no notice and can't expect him to take on a well schooled fighter in his first fight without a chance to study him , if that bloke wasn't a licensed boxer in that crowd the whole show would have been scrapped , I sure Frazer will soon enough be in there with a test as he only needs a couple of fights to be at British title level
That’s to be expected- Torrez is a better boxer than Clarke, nobody should be surprised
Looked like a different weight class. Torrez so much bigger.
The mistake the ref made was doing the no knockdown as soon as the fighter went down. You gotta make them get back to their feet and then do the signal so the judges know it wasnt a knockdown
This is one of the funniest fights I've ever seen 😂😂😂
Commentary on here is shocking they needs replacing 🙄
What a pro debut, Torrez handled adversity right, explosive fighter, and the ref is a mess.
He's next to Andy Ruiz Jr, the current American heavyweight from Mexican decent, I like it.
Torrez Jr is a beast. He looks like a boxer from the 1970's.
Melson is just running around and wrestling most of the time.
What a hilarious ending, Melson was just swinging from the hips 😂
What in the pinky nuqqa is happening here 😂😂
@@fadhalalnaimi2538you wouldn’t even comb through the ropes ! 😂🤫
Two elite boxers🥊🥊🏴🇬🇧🇷🇺
The problem is the sign refs use for no knockdown is similar to waving it off. But the ref was right here. Generally no knockdown is the ref waving below his waist but not directly over the fighter's face. But from some angles it probably looked like the ref was waving directly over him. Probably shouldn't have waved his hands that much though as it mislead everyone.
Вот это битва.возврашения бокса.
Brooo where is the world going? These commentators don't even know the rules or the signs a Referee has to make. He clearly gave the signal not a knockdown. When a Referee waves it of he has to put the hands over his head if he puts his hands to the ground it means not a knockdown.
Fire these commentators and get some people who have actual knowledge of the sport
There were people bringing the stools in as well. It clearly wasnt just the commentators that were confused. And surely seeing the stools coming in wouldve just further convinced the commentators it was over
It was a legit knock down. Bad call by the ref which resulted in Torrez getting injured. Hopefully it doesn't open up in future cuts. The fight should have been called off. He is just a journey man
Jessica McKaskill and Chris Algieri 'don't know the rules'? Jesus wept...
Him v babic would be a good fight
Is the same dude who got sparked out by jalalov?
Yes
Richards feet movement is unbelievable
This guy really reminds me of The Duke Tommy Morrison. Torrez and Anderson are the most exciting HW prospects
He can switch stance from southpaw to orthodox , his style is designed for W
Torrez has what it takes to become world champion with the right trainer his movement is good, he gets under punches as well slip them and he gets arround his opps like loma with the footwork in three years of studying the pro craft and hard work he can become a world champion,I will be listening for his name to be called among the greats, and looking out for his fights.the only big man that moves the way he do is fury and he is on the way out usik is to so in three years guess who's name they will be calling.
1 year already and he is nothing close to that.
Let's be honest he is nothing close to beat the top dogs of HW, Fury, Usyl, AJ, etc. He would get punish bad!
Торрес хорош, но он дважды проиграл большому узбеку -Джалолову на ЧМ и ОИ. Джалолов более перспективен.
Shocking commentary, really poor. Ref didn't do anything wrong.
It wasn't only the commentators to misunderstand the no knockdown call. It was the doctors too
Torrez got some Lomachenko moves !!
I see how everyone got confused here, the personnel with the stools, the commentators, even the ringside doctor. The referee waved his hands at chest level, if he was signaling the no knock-down rule, his hands should have been emphatically and clearly at or below waist level.
If, on the other hand he is signaling that he is stopping the fight, his hands should be above his head, just like he did at the end, but some referees do it above the shoulder, also if possible, must remove the mouthpiece of the defeated fighter which is a clear and definitive indication that he is stopping the fight, again just like he did at the end.
The referee's hand signal was kind of vague and ambiguous, add to that the condition of Allen Melson and the punishment he was taking, hence the confusion.
How long has the lady commentator been watching boxing 😂😂😂
The lady commentator is Jessica McKaskill. You should probably google her, then take a seat.
It's not a good look when one of the commentators doesn't know the hand sign used by a Referee to signal a 'No Knockdown' ruling. Sigh.
She's a boxer too lol
tbf it did look like he was waving it off lmao even the officials got in the ring thinking it was over
That commentator was an undisputed champion.
@@DrRepper It's always funnier when facts are involved.
Most exciting fighter of this generation
▶️5:48Melson got up after 12 seconds
🥊 _Realise it's a 10-count and not 10 seconds_
▶️6:16Ref signalled no KD, did not wave it off
▶️6:49seemingly caused the cut, or headbutt❔
GG Richard Torez ! :)
Poor job by the ref. That was not a slip. Melson body language made clear that it was a knockdown
100%. and it resulted in Torrez getting a cut that could open up in future fights.
best ref ever
Richard the best
Tks😊😊
I see a new Rocky Marciano in Richard Torre in the making.
Boxer coming from American is a good boxer! Hundred percent good Man in the sports boxing 🥊.
That wasn't the signal to wave a fight off it was clearly the signal for no lnockdown
Keep an eye out for this Torres guy!💥🥊
This was a pretty good ref all things considered...
C'est un boxeur prometteur espérons qu'il fera mieux dans sa rivalité contre jalolov
I wonder how long the woman commentator has been watching boxing to not know the difference between No knockdown and stopping the fight hand signal!!!
The people ringside thought the same though and jumped in the ring so lots got it wrong
Richard the good fighter 👍
Reminds me a bit of the Brockton Blockbuster
Congratulations Richard there are coming big times for you I predict
the last 10 seconds was pretty amazing though
I think AJ would be far better off sparring Jalalov, he is bigger than usyk but a much closer style match than Torres jnr!
Every One is not Confused Sweetheart YOU ARE.
And both corners. And the ringside doctor.
Commentator saying fighter doesn't know rules she clearly doesn't. Hands down indicates slip, hands in the air waving signals fight over
She was an undisputed champion. She knows the rules better than you do. His hands were far too high.
It's too early to tell. With only a few fights vs Bums, what can you forecast ?
That was fun
Why do they put clueless people on the commentary. He was signaling that it wasn’t a knock down have they never seen boxing before
Chris Algieri and Jessica McKaskill? Yeah, pretty sure they have... 🙄
these men do not look 4 inch in height difference
I think if Torrez can master Tysons style he'll go along way...I see him as Tysonesque fighter...and I really like him...as a fighter and a person...I'm excited about his career...From the UK
someone please educate these commentators before letting them on the job next time
Jalolov and Torrez 3 in future?
If the referee waved his hands above his head it’s a knockout if he waves his hand below his head it’s a slip no knockdown. This is professional boxing get a professional commentator
Fights like a middle weight... Brilliant
Nice
6'2 and 5'10 looks about the same height in this fight
Baxodir Jalolov N1
He we will never b a contender
Wow!
Berto vs Ortiz on a Hamburger Diet
the commentator didnt event no the rule
The new Tommy Morrison
Could go far and make a lot of dough
Richard Torrez = Rocky Marciano
Correct or not??💯
Fight of the century!!! Lol
Put him in with a real heavyweight... chisora would smoke this guy
No he wouldn’t
I agree with the referee!...
Women should be at home cooking.
he jumped and jumped and couldnt get on the palm tree, on Torrez
Udah kalah dari awal tapi banyak tingkah..!!!
This is the sort of fight were RUclipsrs can find there excuses to have a go
You have to go to olympics yo begin a pro career ?
Freddie Roach or Eddy reynoso would be a good boxing assistant trainer for Richard torrez .💪🥊👍✔💯
Если за уши каждый раз промоутеры вытягивать не будут, ничего хорошего его в супертяжах не ждет.
Female commentary get it wrong every time this is why I don't watch top rank and pbc
The ref was a disaster!
Learn the rules. He signaled not a knockdown since he had his hands under his waist.
If he waved it of he puts his hands over his head.
All this was caused by people who don't have boxing knowledge, the commentators and the ringside doctors
@@ba1732 the commentators are both professional boxers.
It was a knockdown tho lol
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Yawn
pathetic non competative fight.
That's black boxer is bad boxer he he cheated bad boxer!
Pro debut!? Was that for the ref 🥴