Also glad The Nature Boy is telling his story. A lot of people do not realize the sacrifices wrestlers made to make it back then. They had it all and did it all
I am so tired of hearing people talk about Savage's obsession with Liz. She wanted a divorce. He divorced her didn't contest a thing. He moved on with his life and career. She followed him to WCW. If she just missed wrestling, she could have gone back to the WWF. McMahon would have hired her. Savage was dating his first love, a woman he met while playing baseball, for years when Liz died. If anything, Liz never got over him and turned to alcohol and drugs and other men to cope. During their WWF days as husband and wife, he tried to shield her from all the ills of the business, but once she left him, it was no longer his place to do that. It was foul for Liz to get a job with WCW knowing Randy was there, but I think she just wanted to be near him again. RIP to them both. They were a fantastic team in 80s WWF.
I don't know if Vince would have kept her on the payroll. He would have had to find a way to work their divorce into the storyline. While I'm sure he could have done it, I don't know if he would have wanted to do it, to undo seven years of kayfabe. This, especially so, if it was going to be emotionally awkward for Randy or Elizabeth. Worth noting -- Randy's in-ring career was winding down by October of 1992. Depending on who you listen to, that was what Randy wanted, or what Vince wanted. Either way, I don't know if Elizabeth could have had sustained an in-ring career without Randy. She was always in a support role, an object, not a subject. Vince would have had to find her a new complement, someone to carry her. Shawn Micheals perhaps?
I agree. All these comments putting Randy down.. He was a professional. Got divorced and still was able to work with her. Not many could do that. Was he protective when married? Of course! He was on tour with his hot wife and being back stage with all these roided out half naked men, who wouldnt be! Randys a stand up guy. Hes admirable. RIP
Great point, no one is perfect; no marriage is perfect. Think about the stress they both had being in the lime light, all of the obligations, etc. People have opinions but no one was inside their head, to know... Everything is just speculation and we will never know the truth. I just enjoyed them. I hope they are resting in peace. Let this be a lesson to us all, life is short. Let's forgive, encourage, and love one another
I agree with you about people lying and talking trash about Randy, but I need to correct you on several things, first Elizabeth didn't turn to booze and men to get over Randy, she didn't follow Randy to WCW, it was Randy who got her a job there , Randy was not dating his second wife, Lynn Payne, during the time he was in WCW, they first met in the 1970s, she was his first love, broke up when he left Florida to start wrestling career, met again in the mid 2000s and married in 2010, and sadly were only married a little over a year when Randy passed away in 2011. I don't like the cruel things people say about Randy, but that is no reason for you to lie and say cruel things about Elizabeth.
Agreed everyone says Randy never got over losing her. I think Liz never got over losing him. Love them both sad their passing RIP Macho Man Randy Savage & RIP Elizabeth.
Randy's match with Flair at WM 8 may be the most underrated match in Wrestlemania history. They stole the show that night and blew away Hogan's pathetic excuse for a match with Sid. Not only was the match fantastic but the storyline was even better with the heat Flair had with those hilarious photoshopped pics with Liz. Just an all around classic that doesn't get near enough love.
Agreed. A fantastic match that capped an extremely well-executed storyline. You could definitely see a clash of styles in the ring, but I think Flair and Randy worked well together. Plus, I think having Randy "cheat" to win the match was pretty ballsy for its time. Babyfaces almost *always* went over clean when they were booked to win titles. I liked that Randy was given a bit of a heel edge in that storyline/match.
The crazy thing about Liz was everyone felt bad for her because Randy was so overprotective. But he was just trying to keep her away from the boys. Then they break up, she starts hanging out with the boys and quickly dies of a drug overdose 🙁
Fair to say that Randy was protecting her from plenty of oversexed, testosterone-saturated men who would love nothing better than to have a chance with her while at the same time breaking up a pair of professional rivals ahead of them in the pecking order. Where I'd quibble is with the word "quickly' in "quickly dies of drug overdose." She arrived in WCW in late 1995; her last TV appearance was in May/June 2000. She died in May 2003. Her death occurred three years removed from "the boys." It occurred when with one man. Also, it didn't occur working on the road. It occurred living in that one man's home. I, like many, want to know what was different in those three years that lead to her passing.
Relationships in the wrestling business, especially back then is fighting a losing battle. Either you leave her at home, not seeing her for months, missing dates, risk of her cheating or you yourself cheating due to distance and loneliness. Or you bring her into the business, having to become over protective because you're constantly traveling with a roster full of athletic men who are in the same situation as you and a lot of them are single and willing to bang anything. And if you don't become over protective you get a scenario like Sunny/Candido where she sleeps around behind your back. Like really it's better to just stay single then settle down when you retire. Or leave the business and find a different profession. Randy was overprotective too much sure, but you understood why, Elizabeth was breathtaking. Same time he couldn't control his paranoia, had to be insane for Elizabeth and it was only a matter of time until it boiled over. I'd like to think if wrestling and lifestyle on the road wasn't an issue, and life was more grounded, Randy wouldn't have been as paranoid as he was. And they might've had a better outcome.
Exactly. People blame Randy for being over protective and paranoid... Who wouldnt be?! He was a stand up guy. Even dealt with the divorce gracefully and got on with things by working with Liz again
the feud between Randy and Ric in the early 90s was great.. with all the pictures, it was hysterical and Ric saying, Elizabeth was mine before she was yours.woooooo!
Couldn't Vince put Ric Flair as the special guest referee for the Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior? Honestly, I think WWF & Vince should've kept the WWF World Title Match at Summerslam 1992 be originally,"Ric Flair vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage".
It was reported that she was using drugs before she was with Lex.Dont know if it's true or not but drug use was rampant through the 70s thru the 00s in wrestling.
Savage and Warrior were paired up at SummerSlam and you had Hart vs. Bulldog in the main event so they probably thought that the show already had 2 main events is why Ric wasn't on the card.
He certainly was a legend..He played with my team, the Reds♥️👍 I didn't know that until recently. Back in 1997 my co-worker/friend and I were at a conference in Charleston WV & WWE stars were staying at same hotel. I wasn't a wrestling fan but my kids and husband were so I knew who Randy and Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are. We saw Randy, Ric and many other stars in the lobby, the mall, just hanging out with each other. In fact, one of the men teaching the conference was Ric's neighbor!👍😀 He said Ric volunteered to speak to our group but he turned Ric down. Who does that? I would have loved that. They were boring us to death about accounting and business. Ric would have been a nice distraction and guest. Anyway, when we were checking out there's Randy standing right next to me. Thought I'd die. The girl at the desk asked him if she should call him Mr. Macho or Mr Savage. He smiled and said, "Randy will be fine". Then he gave my friend and me a nice smile and we saw those lovely blue eyes. He was speaking softly and very down to earth. I was speechless.There was a little boy about 10 standing off to the side with his dad just looking at Randy with such awesome. You could tell he was nervous. Randy looks over and smiles at the boy and motions for him to come over. He talked to him and signed whatever he had. I so wish now I would have asked for his autograph but I was too shy. There were no cell phone cameras back then. The night before we had been waiting for an elevator and he and a couple other wrestlers were waiting for the one headed to the penthouse suites. A couple of women came over to them and made it clear they wanted to party. The other two wrestlers ignored them but Randy said "no Miss Elizabeth wouldn't like that" and got in the elevator. I liked that. Even though at the time they were already divorced sadly. I would have liked to seen her in person cause she was gorgeous on TV and I liked them together. Can't believe they're both gone. 💔
Yes he did play for our Reds but I heard a interview with Elizabeth she said he hurt his shoulder in the minor leagues he was learning to throw left handed.
One of the greatest moments promos ever. I’m sure this has been asked before but ask Ric who decided to start with saying “With a tear in my eye.” It was very apparent that Randy loved Liz and when they parted it broke his heart. I’ve been there. Ric gets it. Not the best situation smh
I love his little 'woo' at the end of that promo. Bobby and Perfect woo as well, but Ric delays his and gives a nice soft one. Best of his career, imo.
I believe he never got over her and vice versa. I think she just couldn't handle his intensity and wanted her freedom and thought it would bring him back and make him change and instead he punished her for it. Instead he punished her and himself. They belong together, no disrespect to his later wife but he always loved her and belongs with her. Just my take.
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Ric might be confusing it with when Savage came back from an injury in 1999. He had bulked up and was older, so it really affected his mobility and athleticism. When he first showed up in WCW Savage was still in great shape.
@@anthonyanderson9303 well Savages prime was from mid 80s to around 1992. But he was still performing at a very good level in 94 when he arrived in WCW. If you look at his 99 work you could still in a big dropoff in his performance, which I attribute to age, injuries, and bulking up so much.
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Scott Hall and Kevin Nash tell the story of Randy being awkward with women. He was sensitive about balding and, perhaps more importantly, would sometime say of women: you can't trust them. To the former, Hall and Nash urged Randy to shave his head. I think they said they would do it too, as an act of comraderie. As for the latter, he probably never trusted a woman again until his second marriage.
They were probably planning Savage to have the title a year and continue the feud up to Wrestlemania 9… so simply a way to have Flair in the main event scene, but not actually wrestling… plus gave him warrior simply to get his win back from Wrestlemania 7 (arguably one of Warriors top 3 WWE matches)… suppose like almost everything in 1992 most of it was basically thinking on the spot with what they had, rather than planning anything long term.
Vince was already looking into rebuild-mode after Wrestlemania VIII. Hogan was gone and it was uncertain if he was coming back. Piper was gone. Sid was gone. Jake was gone. I think he was already looking to the future with Bret and Shawn which is why both of them went over at Mania.
@@D2Kprime actually Piper was not gone full stop in 1992.... he made an appearance at Summerslam 1992 play bagpipes, but was not shown on air, and he did a load of Pipers Pit segments across the summer and autumn on 1992 with Brooklyn Brawler, and one with Randy Savange was advertised on tv, but never shown.... Jake was more a case he left, as according to his book, Bret says that his feud for after Wrestlemania 8 was suppose to be with Jake, which he was really looking forward to, but he quit before they could start, so they put him in a house-show feud with Michaels, and built up to a match at Summerslam 1992, before that was changed.... so in 1992 Vince was not looking totally long term, just more working week-to-week with what he had avalaible
Savage was great but not a healthy relationship. Randy took too much juice causing his demise. Liz ., if she never got into the business would be alive today. As for Lex, there is a reason he looks like he does today: regret, guilt and blame.
I think she couldn't get over Randy and not the other way around I think she loves Randy yes that's what I believe in I think the only reason she came to wcw so she can be a long side him that's the only reason I think the otherwise around that I I she loved him so much until her last days in this life
Randy didn't gain significant weight until 1998/1999. He injured his knee landing from a jump from the top of the "steel' cage at Spring Stampede(?). To cover for his forthcoming surgery, Randy was later the victim of a hit-and-run during the opening moments of a Nitro. To make matter worse, he would then injure his neck while filming Spider Man. The knee and neck injuries meant that he would no longer have any speed. So, he (now in a mid-life crisis) found a new girlfriend, hair plugs, and plenty of weight.
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu - well... it is wrestling... but it was also very personal. I mean... you build the heat so that there is some resolve eventually... but that never happened. Hogan was always there to take the belt from Macho or take credit for it. Saying "It's wrestling" is not a good excuse. Imagine if your co-worker kept stealing the credit for all your work, would you care?
@@chrisdryer that's not what you're talking about. Doesn't seem to be. You seem to be complaining over the way the heat was being built as if it was a shoot. Not the lack of resolve.
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu - i don’t think you understand storylines… if there is no resolve, then what was the point except to be personal? What business did Hogan always have for coming out and stealing the glory? He had booking power and made himself look good at Macho Man’s expense. It was as real as if someone stole your work and gave you no credit. It is as real if someone makes fun of you constantly and tells you they are only joking. Your infatuation with Hogan shouldn’t go so far that you can defend his actions in not letting others get over.
@@chrisdryer like I said you weren't talking about resolve or long term stories. You were talking about one thing done to generate heat You didn't mention anything about long term stories in your original comment yet now you are
Savage had a great physique in the 80's when he won the IC championship from Tito Santana at the Boston Garden in 86 and when he wrestled Steamboat at Wrestlemania. He go too bulky during the end of his career.
In my mind I think she only came to wcw so she can be with Randy I think deep down she only came to wcw so she can see him again. I think deep down inside she Randy so much until her final manners in this world I think she loves him so much and I personally think she reached out to him about getting back together I think she came to wcw so she can see Randy and be with him only that's what I believe I think deep down inside she want it to be back with him and tell her final brace the only thing she think about was randy and how she can reach out to him to come help her is like I is the complete opposite I think is the complete opposite really I think she and not Randy I think she come to the wcw just see him and be with him and tell her final days she try to reach out to him
Randy would do what was good for business. Randy would also take care of his family. Elizabeth was good for business, and she was like family. For her part, she was working at South Beach boutique at the time. Whatever they were paying her, I doubt it was in the six figures, and I'm sure it didn't include the celebrity and excitement of pro-wrestling. Whether her return was also an opportunity to do some emotional healing and tying up of loose ends...your guess is as good as anyone's.
I disagree with you Mr Ric flair I think it is the other way around and not Randy I think in wcw she only came to see him again and I personally think she love Randy so much I think it is the complete opposite I think she wanted to get back together with him I believe that she came to wcw is it ironic how Randy was in wcw they are already no longer together but I think you can decided me by this claim I think she wanted to see him and be around him I personally believe deep down inside in wcw She wanted to get together with him and get back together I think until 2003 only think on her mind was Randy
Ric's commented in the past that he gives Randy a minus for two reasons. One, Randy liked to plan and prep his matches. Apparently, in Ric's eyes you get more points for calling matches in the ring. Two, he thought Liz was a prop, without which Randy never rose higher in popularity. I think there is some envy/jealousy there. Randy and WWF were mainstream. Ric Flair and NWA/WCW were way over with other wrestlers and the hicks who enjoyed rasslin'. Second reason. Randy did something Flair never did (until his retirement match) and that is touch people's hearts. Ric was a playboy and the 'dirtiest player in the game." But he always seemed like a character and just a character, not a human being who hated, feared, loved. His character was one note and almost always the same for... 30....years. Randy experimented more and, as a result, had a broader or more diverse following.
@@bigolebot Yep. Probably because Vince loved monster-sized human beings. Randy wasn't that. And because he wasn't monster-size, Randy was fed by Vince to grow Hogan. One wonders if Randy would have been the bigger draw had Hogan jobbed to Randy at WM 5 or on some SNME , or a shock-title switch at the Boston Gardens or MSG in 1986.
I knew a girl in 1989 who was gorgeous and so nice but she had to date the older bad boy wannabe who controlled everything she did. It's sad because they get mistreated by the bad boy but just can't date a regular guy .
Ric Flair and The Macho Man and Hot Rod, absolute legends. I count myself so lucky to have grown up watching their performances
We sure were.
Also glad The Nature Boy is telling his story. A lot of people do not realize the sacrifices wrestlers made to make it back then. They had it all and did it all
I am so tired of hearing people talk about Savage's obsession with Liz. She wanted a divorce. He divorced her didn't contest a thing. He moved on with his life and career. She followed him to WCW. If she just missed wrestling, she could have gone back to the WWF. McMahon would have hired her. Savage was dating his first love, a woman he met while playing baseball, for years when Liz died. If anything, Liz never got over him and turned to alcohol and drugs and other men to cope. During their WWF days as husband and wife, he tried to shield her from all the ills of the business, but once she left him, it was no longer his place to do that. It was foul for Liz to get a job with WCW knowing Randy was there, but I think she just wanted to be near him again. RIP to them both. They were a fantastic team in 80s WWF.
I don't know if Vince would have kept her on the payroll. He would have had to find a way to work their divorce into the storyline. While I'm sure he could have done it, I don't know if he would have wanted to do it, to undo seven years of kayfabe. This, especially so, if it was going to be emotionally awkward for Randy or Elizabeth.
Worth noting -- Randy's in-ring career was winding down by October of 1992. Depending on who you listen to, that was what Randy wanted, or what Vince wanted. Either way, I don't know if Elizabeth could have had sustained an in-ring career without Randy. She was always in a support role, an object, not a subject. Vince would have had to find her a new complement, someone to carry her. Shawn Micheals perhaps?
I agree. All these comments putting Randy down.. He was a professional. Got divorced and still was able to work with her. Not many could do that.
Was he protective when married? Of course! He was on tour with his hot wife and being back stage with all these roided out half naked men, who wouldnt be!
Randys a stand up guy. Hes admirable. RIP
Great point, no one is perfect; no marriage is perfect. Think about the stress they both had being in the lime light, all of the obligations, etc.
People have opinions but no one was inside their head, to know... Everything is just speculation and we will never know the truth. I just enjoyed them. I hope they are resting in peace.
Let this be a lesson to us all, life is short. Let's forgive, encourage, and love one another
I agree with you about people lying and talking trash about Randy, but I need to correct you on several things, first Elizabeth didn't turn to booze and men to get over Randy, she didn't follow Randy to WCW, it was Randy who got her a job there , Randy was not dating his second wife, Lynn Payne, during the time he was in WCW, they first met in the 1970s, she was his first love, broke up when he left Florida to start wrestling career, met again in the mid 2000s and married in 2010, and sadly were only married a little over a year when Randy passed away in 2011. I don't like the cruel things people say about Randy, but that is no reason for you to lie and say cruel things about Elizabeth.
No not her he get it right
Every time I watch WM 4 it brings a tear to my eye...RIP Macho & Liz
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Why? What happened in that one?
Savage was an awesome human
Ohhhh yeahhh
You never get over thenpeople you loved when you were younger
Agreed everyone says Randy never got over losing her. I think Liz never got over losing him. Love them both sad their passing RIP Macho Man Randy Savage & RIP Elizabeth.
Wooooooooo! Ric Flair is the Man!
Randy's match with Flair at WM 8 may be the most underrated match in Wrestlemania history. They stole the show that night and blew away Hogan's pathetic excuse for a match with Sid. Not only was the match fantastic but the storyline was even better with the heat Flair had with those hilarious photoshopped pics with Liz. Just an all around classic that doesn't get near enough love.
That was an amazing match. WM8 was my first ever ppv I watched. Bret'a match with Piper was also up there with Ric and Savage's match.
@@meekcheeks Yes! Bret/Piper is right there with Flair/Savage. Great match.
Savage vs Flair is my all time favorite WM match followed by Savage vs Warrior at WM 7.
R.I.P Randy, Liz & Sherri Martel, 3 legends sorely missed !
Flair was so great in that role..Reminded me of the time in JCP when he went after Jimmy Garvin's valet/wife in real life Precious.
Agreed. A fantastic match that capped an extremely well-executed storyline. You could definitely see a clash of styles in the ring, but I think Flair and Randy worked well together. Plus, I think having Randy "cheat" to win the match was pretty ballsy for its time. Babyfaces almost *always* went over clean when they were booked to win titles. I liked that Randy was given a bit of a heel edge in that storyline/match.
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The crazy thing about Liz was everyone felt bad for her because Randy was so overprotective. But he was just trying to keep her away from the boys. Then they break up, she starts hanging out with the boys and quickly dies of a drug overdose 🙁
Fair to say that Randy was protecting her from plenty of oversexed, testosterone-saturated men who would love nothing better than to have a chance with her while at the same time breaking up a pair of professional rivals ahead of them in the pecking order.
Where I'd quibble is with the word "quickly' in "quickly dies of drug overdose." She arrived in WCW in late 1995; her last TV appearance was in May/June 2000. She died in May 2003. Her death occurred three years removed from "the boys." It occurred when with one man. Also, it didn't occur working on the road. It occurred living in that one man's home.
I, like many, want to know what was different in those three years that lead to her passing.
Relationships in the wrestling business, especially back then is fighting a losing battle. Either you leave her at home, not seeing her for months, missing dates, risk of her cheating or you yourself cheating due to distance and loneliness.
Or you bring her into the business, having to become over protective because you're constantly traveling with a roster full of athletic men who are in the same situation as you and a lot of them are single and willing to bang anything.
And if you don't become over protective you get a scenario like Sunny/Candido where she sleeps around behind your back. Like really it's better to just stay single then settle down when you retire. Or leave the business and find a different profession.
Randy was overprotective too much sure, but you understood why, Elizabeth was breathtaking. Same time he couldn't control his paranoia, had to be insane for Elizabeth and it was only a matter of time until it boiled over.
I'd like to think if wrestling and lifestyle on the road wasn't an issue, and life was more grounded, Randy wouldn't have been as paranoid as he was. And they might've had a better outcome.
Exactly. People blame Randy for being over protective and paranoid... Who wouldnt be?! He was a stand up guy. Even dealt with the divorce gracefully and got on with things by working with Liz again
the feud between Randy and Ric in the early 90s was great.. with all the pictures, it was hysterical and Ric saying, Elizabeth was mine before she was yours.woooooo!
Rip Randy Savage
That's 💯% respectful and honest
love you, Mr Flair
How could anybody get over Liz, such a pretty, pretty lady.
I can't get over Liz and she wasn't even my wife. 😏
Absolutely she was stunning beautiful.
Couldn't Vince put Ric Flair as the special guest referee for the Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior?
Honestly, I think WWF & Vince should've kept the WWF World Title Match at Summerslam 1992 be originally,"Ric Flair vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage".
After she passed, I blamed Luger. She was truly classy and special
Yeah FO with that luger shit. Classy and special huh. So you knew here then.
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Yea but she ended up taking drugs though. Now was it through Luger or prior to Luger we don’t know.
It was reported that she was using drugs before she was with Lex.Dont know if it's true or not but drug use was rampant through the 70s thru the 00s in wrestling.
@@omt4293 a man, a REAL MAN is supposed to protect a woman. not beat her up and do drugs with her.
Savage and Warrior were paired up at SummerSlam and you had Hart vs. Bulldog in the main event so they probably thought that the show already had 2 main events is why Ric wasn't on the card.
I feel like they could have Flair vs Piper since they never had a proper blow off to their fued.
So right.
They had their issues. We all do, but man they sure loved each other.
Savage was a similar weight in his early run in WCW.
Yeah, Flair is thinking 1998/99 Savage was all WCW Savage. Randy didn't gain weight until his return..with his harem.
true Savage in 96 still looked small compared to Hogan that changed in 98/99 Savage looked massive at the end of his WCW days.
He certainly was a legend..He played with my team, the Reds♥️👍 I didn't know that until recently.
Back in 1997 my co-worker/friend and I
were at a conference in Charleston WV & WWE stars were staying at same hotel. I wasn't a wrestling fan but my kids and husband were so I knew who Randy and Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are. We saw Randy, Ric and many other stars in the lobby, the mall, just hanging out with each other. In fact, one of the men teaching the conference was Ric's neighbor!👍😀 He said Ric volunteered to speak to our group but he turned Ric down. Who does that? I would have loved that. They were boring us to death about accounting and business. Ric would have been a nice distraction and guest. Anyway, when we were checking out there's Randy standing right next to me. Thought I'd die. The girl at the desk asked him if she should call him Mr. Macho or Mr Savage. He smiled and said, "Randy will be fine". Then he gave my friend and me a nice smile and we saw those lovely blue eyes. He was speaking softly and very down to earth. I was speechless.There was a little boy about 10 standing off to the side with his dad just looking at Randy with such awesome. You could tell he was nervous. Randy looks over and smiles at the boy and motions for him to come over. He talked to him and signed whatever he had. I so wish now I would have asked for his autograph but I was too shy. There were no cell phone cameras back then. The night before we had been waiting for an elevator and he and a couple other wrestlers were waiting for the one headed to the penthouse suites. A couple of women came over to them and made it clear they wanted to party. The other two wrestlers ignored them but Randy said "no Miss Elizabeth wouldn't like that" and got in the elevator. I liked that. Even though at the time they were already divorced sadly. I would have liked to seen her in person cause she was gorgeous on TV and I liked them together. Can't believe they're both gone. 💔
Yes he did play for our Reds but I heard a interview with Elizabeth she said he hurt his shoulder in the minor leagues he was learning to throw left handed.
One of the greatest moments promos ever. I’m sure this has been asked before but ask Ric who decided to start with saying “With a tear in my eye.”
It was very apparent that Randy loved Liz and when they parted it broke his heart. I’ve been there. Ric gets it. Not the best situation smh
I love his little 'woo' at the end of that promo. Bobby and Perfect woo as well, but Ric delays his and gives a nice soft one. Best of his career, imo.
Cool
Everybody got that one...no matter what happens🤷🏾♂️
I believe he never got over her and vice versa. I think she just couldn't handle his intensity and wanted her freedom and thought it would bring him back and make him change and instead he punished her for it. Instead he punished her and himself. They belong together, no disrespect to his later wife but he always loved her and belongs with her. Just my take.
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Randy Savage was in great shape when he was in WCW. If he was 40 pounds heavier then a lot of it had to be muscle.
At the end he was so over roided
Ric might be confusing it with when Savage came back from an injury in 1999. He had bulked up and was older, so it really affected his mobility and athleticism. When he first showed up in WCW Savage was still in great shape.
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He didn't have the same conditioning by that point.
@@anthonyanderson9303 well Savages prime was from mid 80s to around 1992. But he was still performing at a very good level in 94 when he arrived in WCW. If you look at his 99 work you could still in a big dropoff in his performance, which I attribute to age, injuries, and bulking up so much.
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Scott Hall and Kevin Nash tell the story of Randy being awkward with women. He was sensitive about balding and, perhaps more importantly, would sometime say of women: you can't trust them. To the former, Hall and Nash urged Randy to shave his head. I think they said they would do it too, as an act of comraderie. As for the latter, he probably never trusted a woman again until his second marriage.
They were probably planning Savage to have the title a year and continue the feud up to Wrestlemania 9… so simply a way to have Flair in the main event scene, but not actually wrestling… plus gave him warrior simply to get his win back from Wrestlemania 7 (arguably one of Warriors top 3 WWE matches)… suppose like almost everything in 1992 most of it was basically thinking on the spot with what they had, rather than planning anything long term.
Vince was already looking into rebuild-mode after Wrestlemania VIII. Hogan was gone and it was uncertain if he was coming back. Piper was gone. Sid was gone. Jake was gone. I think he was already looking to the future with Bret and Shawn which is why both of them went over at Mania.
@@D2Kprime actually Piper was not gone full stop in 1992.... he made an appearance at Summerslam 1992 play bagpipes, but was not shown on air, and he did a load of Pipers Pit segments across the summer and autumn on 1992 with Brooklyn Brawler, and one with Randy Savange was advertised on tv, but never shown.... Jake was more a case he left, as according to his book, Bret says that his feud for after Wrestlemania 8 was suppose to be with Jake, which he was really looking forward to, but he quit before they could start, so they put him in a house-show feud with Michaels, and built up to a match at Summerslam 1992, before that was changed.... so in 1992 Vince was not looking totally long term, just more working week-to-week with what he had avalaible
She was mine before she was yours WOOOOOO
3:14 _"Think about it: Love of your life. You gotta look at her every day with somebody else."_
Savage was great but not a healthy relationship. Randy took too much juice causing his demise. Liz ., if she never got into the business would be alive today. As for Lex, there is a reason he looks like he does today: regret, guilt and blame.
For what? Were you there? PEDs is why Luger is in the shape he is in. As much gas as he was on, it's amazing he is even still alive.
Elizabeth was obviously on something as well. Her physique dramatically changed from lean and fit, to buffed and beautiful
Randy loved Liz and he never moved on from her…
2 way street she never got over him & never moved on as well.
Naitch had Liz 1st. Woo!
There was a rumour that Flair didn’t wrestle at Sumerslam 92 as a punishment for blading in the WM8 main event.
Randy got her the job in WCW
deep down Savage loved her to the day he left the world😢
Agreed & she still loved him as well.
I think she couldn't get over Randy and not the other way around I think she loves Randy yes that's what I believe in I think the only reason she came to wcw so she can be a long side him that's the only reason I think the otherwise around that I I she loved him so much until her last days in this life
Randy didn't gain significant weight until 1998/1999. He injured his knee landing from a jump from the top of the "steel' cage at Spring Stampede(?). To cover for his forthcoming surgery, Randy was later the victim of a hit-and-run during the opening moments of a Nitro. To make matter worse, he would then injure his neck while filming Spider Man. The knee and neck injuries meant that he would no longer have any speed. So, he (now in a mid-life crisis) found a new girlfriend, hair plugs, and plenty of weight.
Hogan humiliated Randy in the ring in front of Elizabeth, taunting him as they called him bald and spray painted his bald spot in front of everyone.
It's wrestling.
It was all apart of the plan I imagine.
Everyone including Randy were likely in on it I imagine
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu - well... it is wrestling... but it was also very personal. I mean... you build the heat so that there is some resolve eventually... but that never happened. Hogan was always there to take the belt from Macho or take credit for it. Saying "It's wrestling" is not a good excuse. Imagine if your co-worker kept stealing the credit for all your work, would you care?
@@chrisdryer that's not what you're talking about. Doesn't seem to be. You seem to be complaining over the way the heat was being built as if it was a shoot. Not the lack of resolve.
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu - i don’t think you understand storylines… if there is no resolve, then what was the point except to be personal? What business did Hogan always have for coming out and stealing the glory? He had booking power and made himself look good at Macho Man’s expense. It was as real as if someone stole your work and gave you no credit. It is as real if someone makes fun of you constantly and tells you they are only joking. Your infatuation with Hogan shouldn’t go so far that you can defend his actions in not letting others get over.
@@chrisdryer like I said you weren't talking about resolve or long term stories. You were talking about one thing done to generate heat
You didn't mention anything about long term stories in your original comment yet now you are
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Can't be the love of your life if she's with someone else..Life too short
Savage had a great physique in the 80's when he won the IC championship from Tito Santana at the Boston Garden in 86 and when he wrestled Steamboat at Wrestlemania. He go too bulky during the end of his career.
he to too bulky at the very end. His last year as an active wrestler. Between the end of 1998- and 1999. I didn't see him that big before that.
In my mind I think she only came to wcw so she can be with Randy I think deep down she only came to wcw so she can see him again. I think deep down inside she Randy so much until her final manners in this world I think she loves him so much and I personally think she reached out to him about getting back together I think she came to wcw so she can see Randy and be with him only that's what I believe I think deep down inside she want it to be back with him and tell her final brace the only thing she think about was randy and how she can reach out to him to come help her is like I is the complete opposite I think is the complete opposite really I think she and not Randy I think she come to the wcw just see him and be with him and tell her final days she try to reach out to him
Randy would do what was good for business. Randy would also take care of his family. Elizabeth was good for business, and she was like family.
For her part, she was working at South Beach boutique at the time. Whatever they were paying her, I doubt it was in the six figures, and I'm sure it didn't include the celebrity and excitement of pro-wrestling. Whether her return was also an opportunity to do some emotional healing and tying up of loose ends...your guess is as good as anyone's.
Who could get over Liz? I have new gf still not over the love of my life
Leave your new one alone then. Not fair for her at all.
I ran into Flair in an elevator in Tampa….just he and I and I can tell you, he was a real AH!
He ignore u?
@@gomezgomez7759 I ignored him …and he didn’t understand why!!! Big AH 100%
@@tapptomYou ignored him but he was the asshole?
@@Director2024 that’s a matter of opinion
An AH with blond hair
@@tapptom I believe he is an AH, but not by the scenario you mentioned.
I disagree with you Mr Ric flair I think it is the other way around and not Randy I think in wcw she only came to see him again and I personally think she love Randy so much I think it is the complete opposite I think she wanted to get back together with him I believe that she came to wcw is it ironic how Randy was in wcw they are already no longer together but I think you can decided me by this claim I think she wanted to see him and be around him I personally believe deep down inside in wcw She wanted to get together with him and get back together I think until 2003 only think on her mind was Randy
Who is Flairs love of his life?
Wrestling
Alligator shoes. Spilt liquor wrestling. Razor blades. Blonde hair
@@thomashall6288 ^^^^THIS RIGHT HERE.
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Huh summer slam started 1988 get youre facts straight
Something about the way Ric talks about Savage makes me feel like there was some envy or jealously involved.
Ric's commented in the past that he gives Randy a minus for two reasons. One, Randy liked to plan and prep his matches. Apparently, in Ric's eyes you get more points for calling matches in the ring. Two, he thought Liz was a prop, without which Randy never rose higher in popularity.
I think there is some envy/jealousy there. Randy and WWF were mainstream. Ric Flair and NWA/WCW were way over with other wrestlers and the hicks who enjoyed rasslin'. Second reason. Randy did something Flair never did (until his retirement match) and that is touch people's hearts. Ric was a playboy and the 'dirtiest player in the game." But he always seemed like a character and just a character, not a human being who hated, feared, loved. His character was one note and almost always the same for... 30....years. Randy experimented more and, as a result, had a broader or more diverse following.
@@pandaloon6083and yet Randy Savage was never their main draw without Hogan or Andre on the card
@@bigolebot Yep. Probably because Vince loved monster-sized human beings. Randy wasn't that. And because he wasn't monster-size, Randy was fed by Vince to grow Hogan. One wonders if Randy would have been the bigger draw had Hogan jobbed to Randy at WM 5 or on some SNME , or a shock-title switch at the Boston Gardens or MSG in 1986.
randy was not 40 lbs heavier in WCW.
You must have been blind back in 99 then.
It was after the knee surgeries, when he returned to wcw with team madness when he went off the rails with the juice.
I knew a girl in 1989 who was gorgeous and so nice but she had to date the older bad boy wannabe who controlled everything she did. It's sad because they get mistreated by the bad boy but just can't date a regular guy .
No you didn't
I disagree , Randy was with gorgeous George !!she was better looking than Liz!! Savaged had already moved on
Guess he should've treated her better and not locked her in closets.