What Happens If You Shoot Down a Drone?
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2022
- Are you allowed to disable a drone that is flying where you don't want it to? This video discusses the consequences of doing so, and educates on a few facts about the safety of drones. Remote ID is going to lead to more altercations. Know the facts before you go disturbing a drone pilot.
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I think it's not the fear of the drone it's a privacy matter for many
Yep. Ill shoot one down in a heartbeat !
@@kilozulu9990 over my backyard is a privacy issue
@@glenngrant7778 People hate drones just to bitch and use the excuse "your drone is flying over my property im a whiney bitch"
@@glenngrant7778 well yea obviously lol
Fly where you want
If a drone passes by a property that is one thing. But if a drone flies into your property and begins maneuvering around to view your private domain then it is getting impaled with bird shot.
No kidding, calling the police won’t work. Um officer so I saw a drone looking through my window and it went away
that's just going to get you a fine or even a felony, did you not watch the video?
No Trespassing means NO TRESPASSING.
@@kevinmckinzie yup, but hope you got deep pockets cuz youre gonna be getting alot of fines in the future
Only if they find the bodies.
If a drone gets to low and peers in my window. It's going down, my dog is going to get it. I don't think they can fine or jail my dog lol.
I live in a rural area and if there is a drone over my home, it will come down.
Passing through, okay, but hover long enough for me to get my shotgun...
Better get Soap On A Rope!!😊
Lol and you'll be paying for a replacement
@@drewishgaminginc.3942 Nah, in a rural area, the drone operator will simply have to beat a fast retreat.
@@drewishgaminginc.3942 love to see u enforce that lol what a joke
Imagine seriously calling the police and expecting them to do anything for a drone when they can’t even arrive to your house for a home invasion in less than ten minutes
They wait for the threat to pass
Or imagine the police NOT charging you for defending your privacy. If I sneak a camera into your private space, you can crush it. Not be criminally charged.
I dont believe the local police can enforce these laws.
10 minutes were do you live? I'm in NY they don't arrive at all. If they do they just let the criminal go so they can murder and rape again
I had a drone hover over my yard I gave it the middle finger and it left ....not a fan of them in Residential arias ....you can't fly an aircraft low over a Residential zone...
I am all for people enjoying their favorite recreational activity but...... If I own 20 acres, completely private and my wife wants to tan topless at our swimming pool in the privacy of our property, what gives anyone the right to fly over and invade our favorite recreational activity? Who doesn't value their privacy at home and what gives anyone the right to invade it?
If i concede the 'right' to fly drones, what gives them the right to 'video' from such a platform. Even the $300 and under drones have incredible cameras. Thoughts please..
I agree with you.
Lol…where I live, there’d be 20 guns trained on it in seconds
@@michaelklein3112 They are in public airspace and they have just as much right to video from public airspace as I would have if I point a camera out the window of a passenger plane and take video footage or if I stand on a public sidewalk and shoot video footage. Basically anything that can be seen from a public space can be filmed. It's called the first amendment. Also, just because someone is filming from a drone doesn't automatically mean they are spying on you. At the same time if you suspect someone is deliberately harassing you with their drone, such as constantly hovering over your property, trying to peek into your windows, etc. there are legal actions you can take to correct the situation.
In that case any airplane or helicopter that passes overhead is also "invading your privacy". What gives them the right is the United States Constitution and the notion of "public airspace".
I believe your enthusiasm for drones blinds you to the fact that a lot of people are aware of how weirdos can use this technology to target them or their children. I would give drone users some advice. Always respect your neighbors and if possible expose them to your hobby. Don’t be snarky or you’ll end up causing people to demand more restrictive laws in your state or region.
that's not an issue with the drones or flying drones, that's an issue of uneducated people using them. the problem is not the drones.
If it lingers is one thing . If it flys over then you’re paranoid and need help.
Solid advice.
A few tips: I try to follow the roads when flying over neighborhoods, most people don't care when the drone is flying over a "common area" vs their own pool or back yard
-If you want to hover, do it over parking lots, farm lands, malls, etc. Don't hover over yards
-A 100 feet elevation is my minimum
Word!!!
This situation - people even considering shooting at drones - is another good reason why guns should be taken away from the general population.
Yes, I know it will NEVER happen.
@@oldrrocr if your flying little surveillance devices over peoples properties you should be allowed to own a drone.
@@oldrrocrGod I hope your trolling and not actually this daft.
@@asamcdaniel5167 Hard to tell if he/she is a troll. Anti-gun people are usually at least that daft!
Something similar happened to me once. In my conversation with the individual what I said was “If I was walking around the construction site and shooting photos with my iPhone would you have said anything to me?” He said that it wasn’t the same thing and then called the police. When the police showed up and I presented my Part 107 card they asked the accuser to not waste their time and to know the rules before approaching a drone pilot.
The act of interrupting a sUAS operator while in flight can also result in a fine…
Sweet!!!
@@AxisImagery I had a guy walk up to me and a friend with a loaded crossbow. He was fishing with it and thought we were filming him. He asked me if I was filming him, and I told him no, because I charge for my services and don't film anyone for free. LOL. Okay, maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to say. But I hate getting interupted when I am flying.
@@MYPROJECTS101. that’s the best response I have ever heard. Hahaha. Made him feel worthless and unimportant I bet.
@@MYPROJECTS101. that WAS Smart thing to say mate 👍
Thanks for the video. I have a drone, never ran it, but I did get my license and am prepared. A fellow visited us while we were camping in Arizona and did a drone video on Christmas of 2018. He posted it, and I go to it regularly. Why? Well he has my wonderful wife of 51 years and I waving at the drone as he zooms down and back up. I lost my wife to cancer in 2020 and I miss her more then life itself, I have been healing myself, but now find myself with cancer, just had a kidney removed because of that, but when I really miss her I go to that site and she waves at me with such joy on her face, it helps. . .
Sorry to hear that bro 😔.My mom has stage 4 cancer and she is someone that I never ever thought would catch something like cancer she never smokes,never drank,never did drugs,and I know those things don't lead to cancer but she lives a clean life and still she caught cancer and I now understand just how important it is to appreciate the people in your life cuz when their gone their really gone and your entire world is flipped upside down and it hurts.....a lot.Hope you have a great rest of your day buddy and hope things get a little better for you with time.
@@khanhknapp For what it's worth: keto and intermittent fasting helps with an awful lot of physical problems.
seriously get into fasting as after day 3 your body starts discarding damaged cell tissue first like tumors, cancers, etc. It kicks into autophagy.
Wow bro sorry to hear that I hope all is well
@@khanhknapp a third of us will die of cancer. Half will get cancer.
if I am sitting no a jury about someone shot down a drone I am voting not guilty no matter who owns the drone.
I own a drone, but if someone flies over my ranch and appears to be spying on me, he will loose his drone. Period
We live in a Rural area, and yes ,quite frankly we do question EVERY car that drives pass our house.
Wow, how sad and paranoid.
@@2Bluzin .I’m guessing he doesn’t get a lot of sleep .
@@renenadeau323 I live on 500 hectares and see maybe 1 car a week, you can bet your pants I want to know what theyre doing on my property!
@@mysty0 Does that road belong to you.?
@@renenadeau323 sure does
I've been harassed by a drone pilot before. I was looking at a home to buy and a neighbor made sure to make himself a nuisance with his drone. He was flying about 30 ft above the backyard and watching us as we looked at the house. We left quickly and crossed that house off our list. If we had purchased that home and that behavior continued, there would have been problems.
Yes, there are assholes out there, just like there are assholes everywhere.
You cannot legally fly over people unless you are either a licensed pilot under Part 107 or your drone weighs less than 0.55 lbs and has no exposed rotors. So, likely the neighbor was breaking the law.
Sounds like that neighbor didn't want the house to sell. Maybe an ongoing fued with the moving neighbor. That definitely warranted a call to faa or whatever agency deals with these types of incidents.
@@johnclifford1911 Einstein
@@johnclifford1911 Einstein
I’m a beginner drone pilot and when I’m in a recreational area or a most visiting tourist site in the rainforest I used to ask them if don’t bothered them to fly my drone. 100% times people appreciate my iniciative and even posed for the drone.
I ask if I can fly my 'model aircraft'. The word drone has such a negative attachment.
It is the nose very annoying and something above your head not nice. We got enough from the government surveillance and the traffic out there vehicles 🚗
Privacy is important to people, as it should be. If I'm on my own property, I shouldn't have to be concerned about someone flying a drone nearby, who may or may not be filming me or my family.
Doesn't mean you can do anything about it! :P
Article (a)(1) said the United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace above your house. And it’s not you, the private landowner
Probably lives in a city with 400 neighbors.... but concerned about some 14 yo having fun
As an amateur drone pilot and human being who values my privacy and others I 100% understand where your coming from BUT you don't own the airspace above your home, also while it is legal for a drone plot to fly over your property it is also illegal for them to actively spy on you or anyone else on your property. Know your rights and their rights and we can all get along.
I suppose you have to follow them home with your own drone then
Looks like there will be some interesting court cases testing the conflict between navigation vs privacy/personal protection rights. The federal government states that in non-congested areas, the area above 500 feet is navigable airspace. If someone shot down a surveillance (camera enabled) drone flying over their property, at less than 250 feet altitude, trespassing and personal protection (anti-stalking, unauthorized surveillance, privacy) rights could be in conflict with a drone owner's navigation rights.
At trial, it seems fairly likely that a jury would side with a property owner's privacy concerns over the rights of a drone owner to fly over anyone's property, with a camera, and without the property owner's permission.
In our society - as of 2023 - a prosecutors chance of winning a case "drone pilot" vs "property owner" is very unlikely. Also, I own a portion of the property above the ground - you can't crash into my radio tower without being liable for damages.
@@davidyanceyjrto this point, recently a family member had a drone shot down at work by a land owner who then also preceded to shoot at the pilot.
The land owner is currently being federally prosecuted just for shooting down the drone and will face prison time. Since it’s federal it’s a felony so they’re also losing their guns.
They’re also being separately charged for the attempted murder on top of all of that.
Doubt it! How will these ignorant landowner scientifically proved the drone flying height? You want something remain private, use your fu*king brain to keep it private
@@JollyGiant19 nonsense.
No. Every time someone has tried to claim privacy in court they lose. 100% of the time.
If your neighbor threatens to shoot your drone if you fly it over his house, SIMPLY DON’T FLY IT OVER HIS HOUSE. Be the bigger person by being considerate.
BS Do it, makes great target practice.
Neighbor threatens to shoot down my drone I'll threaten to burn down his house..
I can fly wherever I want. A neighbor can shove it. Call the cops.
@@ThalesHaskell That's the attitude we looking for👍
@@ThalesHaskell , lol, lmao 😂😂. You get 1 warning, just 1. Then I blow it out of the sky if it is over my property. Fly where you want, 😂😂
"ammo falling"
tell me you've never bird hunted without telling me you've never bird hunted
Hi Brother, As an Army Veteran, I agree with your observations and would add that for some veterans, especially those with PTSD, a drone is a emotional trigger. This trigger can initiate as survival protocol. Just adding another perspective to your great posts. yes, I am a subscriber of your channel! Great work!
Actually I do question vehicles driving by my house. I'm 5 miles off the highway on private roads. And I own the road thru my property. What's needed on both sides of the fence is mutual respect, I respectfully askif they're looking for somebody first, if they pop off with an attitude I let them know they are trespassing on my property, tell them to leave. It's their choice how the interaction goes, I only ramp up the escalation to match their arrogance or stupidity.
Ray, well said man, same here
@@SimonWoodburyForget 500 ft is easy to shoot down 🤣
@@SimonWoodburyForget You're as bright as a burned out light bulb, that would be impossible. 🤣
@@SimonWoodburyForget I'm not here to educate the uneducable. Besides I already saw the comment you deleted being disrespectful to me. So now, go away with your accusations.
@@SimonWoodburyForget You insulted first, so go away with your holier than thou attitude. And no I expect nothing but ignorance from random people like you. 🤣
My nephew lives in a small town.
There was a fire downtown that destroyed an iconic building.
After the fire he took drone pictures of the disaster. Then posted it on the internet. He got nervous because he had not followed all the rules for drone operation. So he took it down.
The city contacted him. They had seen the video. They wanted his permission to post it on the city website.
It made him mini-famous for a while.
Small town in Michigan?
@@junkyardboost8372 Ohio
The city could have just as easily sent notice to the FSDO in the area for investigation.
LAW OR NO LAW, IF YOU HAVE A MORE OR LESS PEEPING TOM ABOVE YOUR PRIVATE RESIDENTS, NOT FLYING ACROSS IT BUT HOVERING OVER IT LOOKING, TAKE THAT DROWN DOWN NO MATTER WHAT!
You're not the main character, no one's watching you.
12ga with #4 birdshot works really well
@@beeranch2859 More like video evidence for a felony reckless conduct charge.
Yes. Do it. You are brave as you are dumb.
Do you realize typing in all caps indicates YELLING and SCREAMING! Most likely not your intent. All caps are more difficult to read than all lowercase letters. In forums all caps are highly frowned upon, an most folks will not read posts in all caps. Question, what news print, magazine, and the like uses all caps only, truly none.
As one who has made his living in the aviation field for most of my life I would like to address the aircraft strike topic. Yes it is true that the amount of drone strikes by aircraft at this time is basically almost zero, with the amount of people entering the drone flying hobby is steadily increasing, and will become an increased risk. I personally have seen birds as small as a sparrow take out a jet engine. Drones no matter how small are more substantial than tiny birds. I know that things ingested into engines are not always catastrophic, I have also seen larger birds, and in one instance a large flashlight ingested into an engine without any apparent damage, but anything going through an engine may cause catastrophic failure. As far as personal privacy is concerned, if you have to fly a drone over personal property, I would suggest that you do it at an altitude high enough that it does not cause concern. If you see a drone flying low and slow over your property, you can not help but think that somebody is spying on you.
I live in a Rural State and I'm sure that many people would shoot my drone down if I flew it close to their property, so I will have to be careful about where I fly if I decide to order one.
Yep
Just strap a couple mercury vials under the drone so if they shoot it down it contaminates their land
Those are the EXACT people who need to be banned for life from touching guns. These are the folks who think its ok to shoot at people in cars who simply took a wrong turn or are just turning their car around.
Keep in mind that in United States v. Causby the Supreme Court established private property air rights at somewhere between 83 and 500 feet. In a new case, Boggs v. Merideth, a state court affirmed the private property right of the landowner. That is being appealed through the federal court system but for now it would seem that Cuasby sets the standard for air rights despite what the FAA says.
So I want to see the Survey of the Land Borders. Most have NO clue.
Flying over is one thing. Hanging out and clearly getting into shit you shouldn’t be in another
@@bidenisasnake9932 I have mine framed.
Even with this ruling air rights are still a grey area. In fact "somewhere between 83-500 feet is grey in and over itself. For example even well before this ruling railroads often sold their "air rights" so that developers could build structures (including very tall buildings) over their tracks. However, even it if we say "up to 500 feet" it doesn't automatically mean every aircraft passing by below 500 feet is guilty of trespassing. Originally property owners were said to own the "land they live on all the way down to hell and all the way up to heaven". Then at the turn of the century air travel (i.e. dirigibles, airplanes, etc.) became a thing and new criteria had to be set.
I do have a solution though. Just sell the air rights over private property to a developer to build a huge skyscraper. Then nothing can fly over the property at least up to the height of the skyscraper and then some.
@@WitchidWitchid If a drone is hovering over someone’s private property long enough to be shot down then it deserves to be shot to shit.
As a former Drone Pilot it has been my experience that people do not fear the drone it's self. It is the fear of not knowing what the drone is recording meaning they do not know if the drone is actually recording them personally. Also, most people do not fully comprehend the lawful rights for themselves and/or others meaning when it come to the laws most people have little to know comprehension of what is legal or illegal. Education and full comprehensions of the rights for self and others is paramount. As a suggestion of when and where a plane or drone can and can not fly over a section area of land and/or water that restrictions apply such as no-fly-zones are important to point out to people that do not comprehend the full scope of the given situation. Thank you for helping people to learn the lawfully rights of Drone Pilots. Many blessings...
Don’t fly over private property. Keep your drone intact.
I value my privacy! Any camera buzzing over my property is a concern...
I've flown model aircraft for 50 years! Rule number one is: never fly over people or others property! idiots with "drones" brake the basic rules all the time! It is rude beyond words.
Your property line does not extend 200' above your house!
@@turkey0165 When it comes to spying drones it does! If you don’t believe it, hide and watch!
Keep them 200 feet over. Don't disturb people or invade their privacy. Also drones could possibly go down and harm someone. Be respectful. You wouldn't want me to constantly disturb you or your family.
@@barbrice721 boo hoo barbi here lol
@@turkey0165 That’s both intellectually and LEGALLY wrong! At least in the United States.
I was flying my Phantom 4 pro, you can hear that thing a mile away, around my neighborhood getting aerial video and shots of the general area. B roll. Anyway, my neighbor lady came out, pretty upset, asking if I can see through her windows and in her house. She seemed fit to be tied. I told her that would be pretty impossible unless I was hovering right in front of her window and the lighting was just right. She really didn't believe me so I showed her the video footage. She completely changed her tune. She was so impressed with the imagery and realized nothing can be seen inside windows. She's a drone fan now.
That’s cool!
Usually I do the same thing when people seem to have questions/concerns. I let them see what I can see. Some think the normal drone can be flying a 100 feet in the air and get crispy clear photos of someone sunbathing, or even more out there, like you said seeing inside a window. They don't understand that unless the drone is fairly close, people end up being extremely pixelated.
But you show her that she wasn't in the picture! Great move on any body part. If She was in front of her windows, or her topless! She should take you to court. Peeping Tom or Paparazzi. But like you, sometimes I take pictures of places to hunt, go camping or fishing. I flew high to get the most landscapes, rivers, lakes, and old abandoned bridges or trains left rotting in the woods! I like filming RC planes, too. Dangerous!
Nice. Most people, somehow, don't seem to realize that, during a sunlit DAY, no one can see inside their windows. They are looking at a mirror. Of themselves. If anything. 2nd-ly, get some damn curtains if it's a concern of yours.
That's what my plan is also, just say why don't we roll that beautiful bean footage and see if yours or anyone else's privacy was abused. You know everything is right here and you can see on my iPad Pro right here and now. Teaching someone like that goes way further than insulting them as hard as it might be👍
You may understand the licensing requirements, but in the municipality where I live they have passed ordinances that ban you from flying over individuals private property without their Express permission.
So if you were to fly over someone’s yard and hover and they call the cops… If you haven’t left by the time the cops get there they could give you some harassment over the deal and if you push the issue I’m sure a citation.
This is to stop BS like where they caught the guy recently using a drone to film a woman through her second floor bathroom window. This is why people are not keen.
In the state of Texas, you can file your property as a "no fly zone" with the FAA. It cost like 70 bucks and civilian drones cannot be flown over your property, that being said, law enforcement drones can still fly over your property ( with probable cause). Now, city owned drones for snooping in your backyard to determine property values or see if you have vehicles stored in your backyard, the city must contact you before flying over your property. Generally, 12 days prior notice.
I like drones, and I think they're neat. But I don't want one over my place, ever. I live in rural Arkansas, there isn't a road passing my place, I don't get strange cars here by accident and I don't want a strange drone here. I would probably be in the "ask questions later" category.
I understand where you're coming from. I'm an Arkie myself, even though I currently live in NW Georgia. I also live in a rural area and my driveway is 1/4 mile long. You cannot see my house from the road. I also have an adverse reaction to strangers pulling up to my house and I definitely don't want a drone hovering around my home. A lot depends on the situation. A drone passing over my home at a couple of hundred feet, no real big problem. But if one is hovering around my domain at 25 ft. off the ground, it just might be mistaken for a hawk or owl after one of my chickens...if you get my drift.
@fleetfootedtexan Check your local laws, where I live, homeowners "own" 500 feet above their house. If its a tall building, like an apartment building, its 500+ feet. #7 shot works best.
@@smackyomomma5666 I like #4 Magnum turkey loads. They kick like hell, but get the job done. Turkeys - or whatever ;)
Amen
@@smackyomomma5666 In the United States Federal Law (FAA) supersedes local and state laws regarding airspace rights. PERIOD. However where the drone operates from (takeoff and landing) is definitely within the local laws jurisdiction. Shooting at/down a drone is a Felony as it is in the same category as any aircraft legally operating.
I am a pilot and have nothing against drones. They have a lot of really good uses, some yet to even be discovered. However, I had a very close call with one. I was flying down the Hudson corridor, over the river, west side, at 1000 feet AGL. There are some cliffs nearby so I was closer to those, maybe 550-600 feet. I saw what I thought was a bird but as I passed by it, just several feet from my wing, I saw that it was a good sized black drone, perhaps 2 feet long. I did report it to ATC as a near miss. I can't see how that drone was operating legally as I reviewed flight data and confirmed altitudes. the drone was at least 500 feet horizontally from the cliffs and exactly 1000 feet over the water in a very busy area for GA aircraft. This is very dangerous. Such activity, especially if it results in a midair, will cause perhaps permanent increased restrictions on all drone operators. Another story: the friend I was flying with flies across the country out of Palo Alto. KPAO is right next to a wildlife sanctuary and my friend nearly hit a drone on short final. After he landed he went over to the sanctuary and the drone operator was still there flying right around the airport. He had just gotten the drone and had no idea he couldn't fly wherever he wanted. The local PD educated him and chased him off. Personally, if a drone ends up landing on my property I will feel bad for it and bring it far out into the woods and release it back to nature, like I might do to any injured bird.
If a drone out-of-batteried on my fields I would probably just put a new battery in it then put it back lol
Anybody at 1,000' AGL not within 400' of a STRUCTURE would probably be out of line for several reasons. Unless the drone was quite large, the chances are good that they were flying it beyond visual line of sight as well. The size you described would exclude an awful lot of drones.
If KPAO is in Class D airspace, that drone pilot either had authorization from ATC to be there, or was in violation of the airspace. Based on your report, it seems clear he was clueless about airspace. That makes me doubt he was Part 107 certified. If all that happened was that the local PD ran him off, he got off lucky. The FAA could have gone after him.
Those two pilots were almost certainly way out of line, and reflect badly on the rest of us. I'm Part 61 and 107 and completely appreciate your position on the matter.
While you say you see nothing wrong with them, yet have had a Near Miss, yourself, and know of others, it is only a matter of time, when one does take down an aircraft. Who knows it may have already occurred, and was either missed in the Investigation, or merely covered up. You think for a second, a drone pilot would ever admit to destroying an aircraft, or killing folks? NEVER!
@Loïc LASCURETTES Please re-read his comment. He's not claiming to be a drone pilot. He's an airplane pilot who was reporting a close contact with a drone.
@Loïc LASCURETTES I have no interest in being a professional. I'd rather be called rather than a professioanl any day: ruclips.net/video/sgGRfJdv15o/видео.html
What if I let my trained hawk have some fun with your drone? Hypothetically.
People are not afraid of the 1000 cameras recording them in their life all day long, but go crazy when a guy is enjoying his drone.
On private property
@@colinl5951So what are you sunbathing nude in your backyard.
When the cameras are located in a public place, or a private business, I have no issues. Privacy is up to the individual, so if you fly a drone over private property, you get what you get.
@colinl5951 your private property does not include airspace.... learn the laws before you get yourself arrested
i had the dec put trail cam's on my private property still fighting them but the open field law get's in the way . private doesn't all -way's mean private .
I live in an area that is very rural. If I was to place a call to the sheriffat the quickest it would take around fifteen to thirty minutes, dependingon the day and time. In our state if you cross over a posted borderline in a vehicle, on foot, or other conveyance, the land owner can take means to detain till law enforcement arrives. I would consider the downing of a drone as my only means of detainment. There truly are laws that have to be made to address the use of drowns over private properties. Especially since I have never had a jet, prop driven or other flying machines taking photographs or video low enough to identify people who are out and about or to be able film through the windows of houses. A drone is able to do that. I have sited drones recording through my windows twice. The second time it was shot down with a shotgun. If one shows up again the same result will occur. Placed an add in the paper offering to return the drone to the owner if they would come to claim it or give a viable address for its return. Never did get a reply.
I live out in the middle of nowhere my closest neighbor to me is 20 mi away and the closest police station is 20 mi away so if I see a drone flying around my house they are 100% spying on me and they have no business of being anywhere near my property with the Drone so yes I will shoot your drone out of the sky if it's near my house and no cop will drive that far out to my house because of a drone and I had that happen to me about 5 years ago and I shot one out of the sky and I had reported it to police and they said the same thing that person had no business flying one around my house in the absolute middle of nowhere and that who ever it was had to of been on my property just to get the drone to my house and they told me to put up trail cams throughout my property to try and catch someone if it happened again but luckily it's never happened again.
I live by a park, and sometimes drones come down in my back yard, it should never be over my property, and I now longer return them as I always did before.
They turn to confetti flying over my house.
I will be the one that ruins your day.........
You handled the hospital situation very well. No need to escalate especially when someone is blowing smoke.
The NY in would have said "go for it"
Also known as wimping out.
If your drone is within shotgun range (80yds or less) over private property you're flying too low. There isn't anything you need to photograph or film on private property within 80yds if the owner of the land is so uptight about it.
Drones: skeet shooting at a higher level
One of the problems we've had in this area is drones being used to "case" property. My town is a rural neighborhood, but, this has also happened in the cities. Someone flies a drone around a property looking for valuable equipment, or vehicles. (lately, they're looking for catalytic converters and figuring a schedule as to when to come take them)
I used to fly RC aircraft and LOVED the sport. I can certainly understand the attraction to flying drones, and, frankly, would have a blast.
The problem is, like any other... our laws and our ethic haven't caught up to our technology.
"Legit" pilots need to be sensitive about the real threat presented by the nefarious pilots.
"Nefarious" pilots need to accept their losses.... in equipment, or their freedom. (...and that means PROSECUTING those nefarious pilots, AND their assistants and associates)
The general public needs to get it through their collective head that there's a difference.
Can you reference actual events? I'm not aware of any in either of the cities I frequent or in the rural areas I live very close to.
Look at the guy who used a drone to terrorized his ex girlfriend. He dropped small explosive devises when she was around.
Seems like a dumb way to case properties. Drones are not exactly silent. In fact when flown low and hovering they tend to be quite noisy and draw attention. Or do they do this casing from high up to get an idea of the ground layout?
@@WitchidWitchid It's a made-up "story".
@@WitchidWitchid I've seen a pantload of drones that really aren't that noisy. 60 feet away and you can barely hear them. I've even see a couple that were used to record local events (with audio). I was really surprised at just how quiet they can be. They don't even have to be that low to get a good view of equipment and tools on a property.
They're a LOT less noticeable than someone walking around at ground level trying to get a lay-of-the-land. And, even if they're noticed, they can scoot away over the treeline P.D.Q.
I mostly photograph houses for real estate. I have had a couple of people ask “you are not photographing my house are you?” My standard response is not unless you pay me. Keep up your good work.
I do the same thing. They come up all bothered and I tell them that if their house gets into my shot I'm not doing my job.
most excellent reply. honest, harmless, just the right amount of subtle sarcasam.
Now that response makes sense but when you ask some guys that same question in a calm way they will tell you he has the right to fly wherever he wants then my friend is where the misunderstanding arises be polite and everything will be fine
OK flying a rc aircraft for fun or sport is one thing LIKE drone races....but what's the excitement of the video picture thing... I guess I don't understand why anyone is interested in looking at things like a construction site from the air... I just don't get the whole drone camera EXCITEMENT thing... BUT I DO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE EXCITEMENT OF PRIVACY
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@@lanceladue2818 its generally just that people love flying drones. They are fun no matter what you are filming. Alot of people get paid for their videos and others like me just like showing friends what ive seen from the sky. For me tho the video is secondary to the flight itself.
In britain the height planes are allowed to come down to over a town or village is 500 feet do you have a similar law.?
We had a drone fly in and hover over our worksite one day. It literally just hovered there watching us. Naturally our first instinct was to throw objects at it to take it down because it was intrusive and unacceptable. If not for the realisation that we were on the clock and might get in trouble, I would have happily continued to hurl bottles and rocks at it until I'd taken it down. And then I would have smashed it to pieces and put it in the bin. Flying a drone into someone's space and spying on them is absolutely ignorant and unacceptable.
You cannot own airspace. Period.
What would be the reasoning for any drone to be flying within shotgun range(Which isn't far at all) near any home in a rural area. I think this works both ways. I have no problems with drones as long as those who are flying them respect people's privacy. It's alot easier to identify and report a car to the authorities how do you describe a drone that's being controlled a mile away?
How do you know why the drone is there. Maybe its part of a search and rescue mission looking for a lost kid or something. I understand that people want absolute privacy. But privacy is not always 100% guaranteed nor 100% absolute. If a person is on public land or in public airspace they can legally film what they can see. The constitution upholds that right. For example someone could shoot video of me when I am out in public I have no expectation of privacy. Someone passing my home on a public road can take a picture of my home from the public road or walkway.
@@WitchidWitchid i believe that if you are in a search and rescue the people around should know. If not then it isn't going to end well.
@@WitchidWitchid so if your flying your drone over my property and i ask u the reason then u would say "wouldnt u like to know"? and then say my privacy is not guaranteed or absolute?! you would go to jail and explain yourselves to the police that tell us to shoot the drones down how it is. they used for criminal purposes too much. in some areas u would get shot. this is the dumbest pro drone comment yet on here ive seen. your ignorance and stupidity is not only a danger to the freedoms of drone users everywhere but your willing to get yourself killed using your priviledge to infringe on other peoples rights. you will get a warning from the cops and they will take your priviledge away unless u wanna risk jail flying a drone again in that county.
@@WitchidWitchid Key word... "Public" property OK.. Private property is not OK
@@RJ-sr5dv Will you shoot down the overflying 737 also? Someone is looking out that window right at your pot grow.
Best part is if I shoot a drone down its like baiting the operator to come find it
You quoted a number of Statistics. What do you think would be the probability of a police response if call complaining of your drone. My projection: zero! Boom!
We went through this when cellphones first became affordable. I know people that were in fights in restaurants over talking on a phone. Look now, when don't you see someone on their phone.
It ultimately comes down to rules and the rules are a dynamic, moving target that are consistently changing. I have a Mavic Pro that I bought a few years back. I have the remote pilot license and I also have a private pilot's license that I've had for 47 years and I currently own three actual airplanes. I think drones are cool and all but I'm sorry, they don't belong in an urban environment. If you are in your back yard and a drone from an unknown source is flying around or over you with it's 4k video camera it is not a pleasant experience.
So my advice to drone enthusiasts is to go out into the woods and don't bug people because otherwise there are just going to be more rules and you won't have justification against them. It's a privacy issue.
Except they can and do fly in urban environments all the time. Don't be injecting rules where they aren't needed. I didn't hear you crying over privacy when police installed cameras everywhere, nor do I hear anything about the constant surveillance we are subjected to daily, yet you are going to whine about the one camera that isn't pointed at you? Thing is, it is already illegal to surveil private property with a drone, and it isn't that difficult to spot when you see it. Someone lingering or hovering low near your buildings or home, that's probably something they shouldn't be doing, and as a remote operator they know that's illegal. But if it is just a drone in transit? None of your business. Up high taking a panorama of the landscape? Not your concern.
@@adcraziness1501 Sorry I'm neither whining nor do I make the rules, just sayin...Shooting the messenger won't change the message. Drones irritate people, that's just a fact and I have nothing to do with it.
@@pi.actual There's plenty that irritates me, like the lead in the air from General Aviation's incessant use of the stuff. You know, legitimate complaints.
@@adcraziness1501 A legitimate concern that is being addressed as an unleaded avgas formula has been approved and leaded avgas will soon be a thing of the past. In regards to drones, the same. Remote ID is already here and will be in full effect next year. To use an old adage - the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
@@pi.actual A lot of things can change between now and next year. But it is seriously about time for the unleaded fuel. That is good to know.
Thank you! Being 74 years old, I started my fantastic hobby during Covid. Living in central Florida,the weather is 99% great to fly. I started with a few drones from Snaptain,inexpensive and they came with 2 batteries. My first DJI was a Mini, priced great on Black Friday 2020. Now…yep moved to the MINI 3PRO! Wow..got it a few weeks ago…over 35 flights already..no part 107 yet…but I will. I had almost 200 flights with the first Mini, with no problems, I have a great open area right behind me. Your RUclips channel is right on the top of my favorite people,Russ! Thanks again!
Phil L.
While you don’t have your part 107, a great idea is to do your TRUST exam from the faa, it’s a great way to get started with flying bigger drones because then as long as you get your drone registration, it authorizes you to fly drones over the ultralight weight threshold so then you can fly big drones like the Phantom and Autels and whatnot. Also if you do that then I recommend getting an account with FAA dronezone, it’s a great resource for all drone pilots.
This world is getting more and more crazy because of this technology "progress". Now we not only have traffics on the roads , but in the air. LACK OF PRIVACY is already a BIG INCONVENIENCE. Cameras everywhere- INSANE.
Hello from Oklahoma! Just remember, laws on privacy and drones varies from state to state.
I know this video has been up for a while.
I used to like drones but after coming close to being blown up 4 times they make me very nervous if I can’t see who’s flying them. I hope there’s people who have them that can understand.
Honestly, I have a pretty private home. I like it that way. I could care less if a drone overflies my house so long at it keeps going and doesn't hover around. Once it starts hovering I have the same issue as someone camping out in my driveway. In the case of the driveway calling the authorities is the SECOND thing I'd do. Trust me you'd hear about it.
If you can't see any difference between a person trespassing where they don't belong, and a drone hovering where it's protected by federal law, the rest of us would like to get out our popcorn and watch the show. Especially after you announced your intentions in writing, documented forever, and if your username is your actual name. Brilliant. You won't even be able to claim it was a bad decision in the heat of the moment, with this evidence of premeditation. Congrats on putting yourself in that small minority of people who would probably actually get prison time on a first offense, rather than a plea bargain.
@@EfficientRVer You guys are a piece of work."I can do what I want and you can't stop me" Heard it a million times. Property owners have rights too. I don't see any threats made in my posts BTW and none have been implied either. Now run along and play with your toys elsewhere. Seems to me you're pretty whiny about this..........somebody give you a hard time? I'll even let you in on a little secret........you can't fly drones in my area......we have airports, seaplanes, Hospitals etc. If see any being flown......even toys.........I'll be reporting it myself from now on.
@@Digger49er Since you're a homeowner, I would think that you are smart enough to know that you don't own the airspace above your house.
@@Nessal83 I get that .......but there's more to it. Here's what I know from Government regs.
Can my neighbour fly a drone over my house?
Answer: The use of drones, officially called Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), is regulated by both state law and the Federal Aviation Administration. In a nutshell, a drone operator can’t fly over people or their property without permission.
Can you fly a drone over private property in Canada?
As for altitude restrictions, drones may only be flown below a maximum altitude of 400 feet above ground level or, if higher than 400 feet above ground level, remain within 400 feet of a structure; however, drones cannot fly directly over an individual without their consent.
Can my Neighbour fly a drone over my garden?
If you fly your drone low over someone’s land without their permission, you could be liable in trespass or nuisance, even if you do not personally go onto the land (although this is generally a civil rather than a criminal matter).
The bottom line for me is that if a drone is merely traveling over my property I don't care. If its hovering and I feel it's invading my privacy I'll take it as far as I can legally.
@@EfficientRVer If you loiter your drone over someones house expect to be shot down or at the very least have the cops called. It's just a common decency kind of thing.
Your video made me curious. So I looked it up for my state and found this: "California has laws that regulates uncontrolled airspace. In August 2015, the State Assembly passed a law prohibiting drone flights over private property as they are a trespass. According to this legislation, you'll face privacy infringement charges if you fly a drone over personal property without the owner's consent." That being said, it also states that it is illegal to shoot it down or even use a net or jamming device on the drone. The best they could offer was to find the drone owner and ask them to not fly over your house. I assume if they are already flying over your house, they don't see it as a problem and I doubt will comply with your request. Some might I guess. I assume the only recourse would be to call the police and ask for a trespass charge. Which I doubt they will do as its a low level offense. I think as drone usage increases, the rules and regulations to protect privacy will gain traction. I think drones are awesome, but also do not want someone filming in my house through a window. So I think the right to privacy should trump the right to fly a drone over private property.
California law in this case is trying to usurp federal law. California CAN NOT regulate drones beyond what the FAA already regulates them.
in my state you can go to jail for trespassing.
Yep I almost got arrested for blowing one out the sky over my house. The guy that owned the drone apparently knew of me through sources and he dropped charges and later we became drinking buddies. 😅
The problem is the high res cameras these drones have. Our privacy is being invaded.
I saw a drone over my house. I sent up my drone to say 👋 lol
If you value your drone as much as most people value their privacy you should be considerate of that and you won't have to worry about someone shooting it.
Amen...
Theyre gonna get charged by the FAA and the drone user will sue. Good luck on shooting that drone down 👍🏻
@@scpanzor Hmm, that’s pretty optimistic considering that billions of dollars in property damage were done in 2020 and hardly anyone has been prosecuted for it. No, but you’re probably right. I’m sure the federal government will go hunt down that one guy who shot some random drone down allegedly lol.
@@scpanzorif my kids are in the yard and you fly your toy over them you wont have a drone to take home.
100%
If I find random junk flying or hovering over my house its gonna eat some buckshot
You handled the hospital thing better than I would have...as soon as he said what he said.... I would have said " challenge accepted" and immediately start flying again.
..... I was just target practicing on my private property and a drone flew into the line of fire.... Sorry bout your luck 😂
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Quit lying 😂🤣
The damn thing looked like a crow to me........... LOL
Airplanes keep flying over my house. Can I shoot them down?
@@stanmason4701 apples to oranges bud
The problem we might have if/when the police get called against us is that they don't know all the laws their supposed to enforce.
That's when I'd educate the officers by telling them the airspace is controlled by the FAA, and you're a drone pilot. And as with other aircraft, you requested and obtained clearance by the FAA to fly in that airspace at the altitude and time frame you were flying, and that your flight is logged with the FAA if they wish to follow up. I'd probably go so far as to show them the ALOFT, B4UFly, AirMap or other similar app showing this is unrestricted airspace, and zoom out to show them what colors are restricted so they can see the difference. I think would be enough to satisfy most cops that do not know drone laws that you know what you're doing and that you're flying legally, versus some random person saying you're not allowed to fly there. I'd do everything I could to not escalate the issue with emotion though. Losing your calm, cool demeanor will only hurt you and other good drone pilots that fly correctly. I can't blame cops for not knowing drone laws. heck, there are over 10,000 laws on the books and even the Supreme Court Justices do not know them all, so how can a cop be expected to know them? Cops do the best they can with what they have, and if you don't push them into a corner by being a jerk, I'd bet 99% of them would be happy to be educated so they know better how to deal with similar calls in the future.
The other big issue that needs to be addressed are the state and local ordinances that prohibit UAS operations in certain areas. According to the FAA, no state or local law pertaining to operation of UAS in the NAS would stand up in federal court. This hasn't stopped many cities, towns, counties from creating some pretty harsh rules - to include felony charges. Someone will have to go through that ordeal, then challenge it in federal court to have it overturned - very stressful, very expensive, not to mention you'd have been charged with a felony - so certain rights would be infringed upon... slippery slope.
@@matts6807 Agreed. I do not have the funds to lead that charge, but I think the person that did take on that challenge could start a go fund me site and plenty of us drone pilots would contribute to their bills over this order while they fight on our behalf.
@@troy5292 easy answer then, don't fly in questionable areas where you think this could be an issue. leave that to those willing to risk their drone, time and money.
Police don't enforce aircraft regulations or laws. Which is fine. There are way too many laws + constant flow of court decisions to keep track of. Common sense should tell you that if you can't hover a helicopter 80 feet over private property with a video camera, why should drones be exempt?? I'm using the postings about FAA regs calling them "aircraft".
This whole little drone thing is going to end up with a truckload of regulations due to lack of common sense by users. Its how most laws end up on the books.
During one of my flight training classes, I was flying about 1000 ft AGL when someone crashed their drone into the tailboom of the helicopter. Never seen the thing coming.
I made an emergency landing, back at the airport, & checked the damage. There was a nice big dent in the tail boom, right behind the tail rotor, which was also impacted.
And somehow you think my Sub 250gram drone could have done it? It wouldn't even scratch the Paint!
For the first time ever we had a drone flying at very low altitude, circling our home and property for about 15 minutes.
So, it’s illegal to shoot down a licensed drone. But what about unlicensed? Or drones operating outside of the proper altitude or manner?
I was accused of spying with my drones’ camera. I showed them my $99 drone, and asked them to show me where the (non existent) camera was. That still didn’t change their mind about my cheap drone.
I think a factor in the "I'll shoot it down" reaction is that the typical would-be shooters feel that they "are only taking an annoying toy from you". UAV blade noise is something that adds to the situation by calling attention to the UAV plus no one thinks the sound of a drone is "pleasant" so they attribute that annoyance to you, the operator .
@@underdog4255 Land owner has no control over air space, which belongs under control of national aviation authority in every civilized country.
Though would consider flying at tree top level above yard/garden as definite breach of land owner's privacy/rights.
@@tuunaes Drone operator has no control of landowner shooting skeet on their own property, and the drone just happening to be over the skeet range! What do you think of that?
@@stevenmark8156 what drone? ;)
@@miketlane Bingo ! What drone ?
@@dallasarnold8615 dont know, must have crashed...
My question I have is I live in the country and having a neighbor constantly fly his drone over my house even having them hovering about my house at night it bothers me knowing their camera on them I feel creep out knowing he'd watching me and my family at night I don't mine people flying drones but when he has them hovering my house it bothers me and getting out of hand does this every night even got the sheriff involved but still continue I gotta do something
BANG!
I'm really surprised that no one seems to be concerned that a drone might be used to surveille your home as part of a plan to break into your home or commit other crimes against you. While it has been discussed quite a lot recently, various government agencies are using drones to monitor what you're doing on your property for agriculture and animal husbandry issues, my first concern is whether I am being cased by thieves or other nefarious individuals.
Proud of you! My fairly recent story:
I was flying DJI drone (Mavic Air 2) from the property I lived on. A nearby neighbor walked over to me and asked me why I was flying it there (where I lived!). I filled him in on some of the regs, told him that I would avoid his property if he felt better that way, etc. He said fine. Then one day I asked him first if I could fly over some outlying property that he owned, and take some pictures of his old barn, and a field that was full of deer. He said fine, just don't be snooping around his house (snooping?). I flew over, and then lowered and elevated the drone, all the while filming this gorgeous old building, and the deer walking around in the field. When I returned he walked over again and then demanded that I let him know precisely when I was going to fly there, and he did not want me snooping around his house (again). He said he'd shoot it down if he saw it anywhere in the sky at this point. I'm not as nice as you, and I can back up what I say if I get angry as well, but I told him fine. Shoot it down. There's a new model out (Mavic 3 then) and I'd be happy to pay for it with his money, that is after he paid a big fine to the FAA, and after he went to court for his illegal act. He walked towards me, cursing, I stood up and just smiled at him. Inevitably he stopped, turned around, and left. Like you I will not try to purposely anger a person, but it's hard for me sometimes. Ex-Army, Ex-MP, Ex-pilot, current drone enthusiast. I do everything I can to relinquish anger today. It's just not wroth it ordinarily.
Big props to you for the way you handled him. But in the interest of neighborly chivalry, why not get a gorgeous aerial pano of his barn at twilight, make a nice print, and give it to your neighbor as a gift?
@@milesian1 he might get even angrier. Lol “ you have a photo of my barn?!”
@@Instant_Nerf Haha, didn't anticipate that possibility.
I have a lot of time for you way of being mate 👍
@@milesian1 Nice idea, and still possible. thanks!
I live in the city. A drone came flying over our yard while my wife and I were having some beers on a beautiful day. The thing sat over our house for 10 minutes and I know he, she, it was watching us. Can't shoot it down because of the city limits and firearms. Call the police and tell them that a drone is flying over our house. I wonder how long it would take for an officer, on a nice Saturday afternoon with speeders and drunk drivers and everything else. A drone flying over would take a back seat to everything else. Maybe the guy was casing our yard. We don't live in a high crime area but things do disappear from time to time. Personally, I hate drones with helicopters a close second. I've heard of people buying cheap quad rotors to go up and knock down other drones, kind of a kamikaze anti drone drone.
Kamikaze anti drone.. I like it. Or a trained hawk, ha
The issue is that it is very difficult to find out who flies the drone. A car that passes by usually does not have a camera pointed at you constantly filming with the occupants of the house wondering what that footage is going to be used for. It also just films the front of your house, not the backyard where a certain level of privacy is to be expected. And if a car was to stop in front of your house and you feel your privacy is invaded, you can easily walk up to it and ask the driver why they stopped there. How do you do that when a drone flies over? A car has a license plate you can forward to the police. A doorbell cam may even have proof that that specific car stopped in front of your house. Proof you can share with the police to make your case. A drone has none of that.
It is seriously uncool to fly above other people's property, because whether you film or not, it is the sensation of the invasion of privacy that counts. I don't have to be naked in my back yard to get annoyed by a drone flying over my back yard. You may indeed be moving towards another spot and just happen to fly over their property, but they don't know that and can't see whether you are filming. I think @bestman7776 said it well: fly over roads rather than back yards, hover over parking lots and other public areas, not above private property...
Having said that: I don't understand why people make a big deal out of you filming a hospital building site. Mind your own business, a drone doesn't hurt anyone there. And shooting it out of the sky is totally unacceptable, especially if it is based on "I read on the internet that...". Even if that information were correct, who made you the police officer?
Here in the Netherlands it is already illegal to fly a drone above people, buildings and roads without proper certificates. You are also no allowed to film at locations you otherwise would not have access to, which immediately excludes anyone's back yard. Now the big problem here is enforcement of this law, as many people buy a drone and start flying it from their back yard, much to their neighbours annoyance. My neighbour bought one as well, flew it a few times in places where it is not allowed, but I think the hobby has lost his interest, as I have not seen the drone after a few flights (I'm happy).
"A good analogy would be, you don't question every vehicle that drives through your property video recording everything, oh wait, you do? Scratch that. Bad analogy. "
Good Points. I have my Part 107 license, and a registered commecial drone operator. Having photographed in hospitals (high security/privacy) and in government buildings, I'm aware of personal privacy issues and repsect them. Sounds like the first visit is to the local law enforcement to introduce myself.
A drone was used to case my home. Weeks after I first noticed it, it didn't concern me much. Then I had a theft of my motorcycle just within an hour of a drown flying over my home and watching me leave. I now am a big believer in privacy. If people are using drones to commit a crime,I won't hesitate to blow it out of the sky and throw it in the river.
I strongly agree
And Uncle Sam will come to your house and attempt to arrest you, and if you resist arrest, they will attempt to shoot you, and if you are successful in resisting arrest, SWAT will be called in and they will knock your house off its foundation while you are on the 5:00 local news and the local news journalists will say that you are “believed to be a crack dealer within a mile from a kindergarten school” ! At which time you will be fired from your job, because they will absolutely not tolerate negative media concerning children, and their business. The story line goes on and on, AND YOU WILL BE THE LOSER…EVERY TIME…OVER AND OVER AGAIN !
YOU ARE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT YOU LIVE IN AMERICA RIGHT !?
If you blow my $2000 drone out of the sky --- I'm gonna blow you away
@@fredwerza3478 Then don't do stupid shit with it. Actions have consequences.
If you can afford a drone, you are not committing crimes lmao
I fly, but drones getting too close to anyone could be considered an invasion of space. Small drones require no license and could be considered stalking or voyuer, etc. A house should be granted a personal air-space.
I live on 20 acres that boarders a state park in a very rural location. State park policy is “no drones” and has signs that state such. Yet still they buzz over and come within a stones throw of me and my family. I tried all the legit channels to no avail. I’m now going to turn to #7 bird shot. Or maybe rubber shot. I’m not a crotchety person, just fed up.
my experience , i was visiting my sister at her cottage and while having tea on the deck of her lakefront cottage a drone dropped in from above and hovered some 60 ft from us watching us for a few seconds and took off. we had no way of nowing who,s drone it was or what was going on. now that is pushing it id say.
The best way to run a drone off is with a super bright light with a tight beam. Two different times we have had a drone low over our land and house and both times they were ran off by the light. I have a light made by SureFire called a HellFighter and it's just that, it's like facing a camera at the sun. All you will be doing is keeping the drone from getting and video or photos not forcing it down.
Good advice
the only times I would consider it justifiable to bring down a drone would be 1. when the drone is recording private areas such as the inside of your house (like flying around inside or in your yard/low flying over it, etc) or 2. they are using the drone in a kamikaze like way of assaulting people; I saw a report where one where a father took a bat to a really expensive drone that was constantly being flown into and cutting up his daughters face, which the pilot tried to sue them to replace only to then get arrested.
While outliers, I feel the incidents I mentioned are the kind that most people will hear about and generalize the drone community with... simply raising awareness won't do too much, but I also can't imagine what could be done to better inform people of how these are merely outliers.
If you fly over private property,no difference than a person walking over your property.
I would have asked him, "How does my flying over the hospital grounds affect you personally?" I would have loved to have heard his answer.
Is this win spam ???
Maybe he owns the hospital.
If he actually owns the hospital (which I doubt he does) he and a lot of other people need to learn that you don’t own the airspace
Any answer to that question has nothing to do with whether something is legal or not.
I'd have to guess he was doing things he didn't want anyone to see.
Kudos to you for handling this as calmly as you did. I had someone actually make the threat to shoot my drone out of the air while I was flying a real estate job. I told to him to absolutely call the cops because if he didn't I would, since he made the threat to shoot it out of the air. The cops came, he got educated and I got to finish flying my mission. There are a lot of dangerously ignorant people out there.
There's a term for that....felony destruction of property LOL. You could avoid the issue by flying from your car a few doors down where someone may not see you as the pilot because if there is no one for the frustrated neighbor to yell at, it isn't as easy to escalate the issue for the person threatening to shoot down your drone. Plus, you're not standing in view of the camera. You could offer to obfuscate their property to ease their concerns, but I'd probably not mention that final decision is up to the paying customer.
How is the work for real estate aerial photography? I've flown UAV off and on for about 17 years and have the Mavic Pro and now the Mini 3 Pro. I decided recently to try and combine my love of flying with my love of photography, and I'm not sure how to approach the issue for real estate photography. What the target customer would be? How are you locating customers? Through realtors, online advertising? Looking for new listings above a certain price range?
Luckily I've never had a negative encounter while flying. Just people curious, or they want information to help them decide what drone they should buy. If possible, I'll let them watch my screen for a little bit to satisfy their curiosity a little. Once a dad came up with his little girl in his arms just watching and I let his little girl push the right control stick around with one finger a little and it really made her day! as well as her dad I was high enough not to hit anything no matter which way she went, and seeing that excited smile made my day brighter.
U r right, and don't forget it.
see this is responsible drone flying he is doing a job and staying on that location to do it. no issues here.
What gives ANYONE the right to fly hover a drone over your property ANYONE... fly over..no problem....hover absolutely not...I wouldn't be unloading a shot gun ..but there are other avenues to bring that drone down.. IMO Drones are for those who are just NOSEY peeping Toms .. No different if somebody came into my back yard, gawked at my wife, or my daughter...same same...you hover all bets are off.. get a life....too many nosey people in this world who have to know what everybody else is doing....
@@carlmayer691 I understand your feeling on this matter, but consider these two things. First, if a pilot has been commissioned to take photographs of a property the only way they can get ANY photos of that property, other than looking straight down at the roof, is to hover over other property to get that angled shot. Second, no matter which "avenue" you use to bring down a drone it is still a federal crime. Now if you feel that someone is invading your privacy or photographing / videoing you or your family I say definitely call the cops. They can review the media from the drone and if that pilot is invading your privacy they're screwed, as they should be.
Its no different than someone peeping in your window.
We don't have to use gunpowder to shoot a drone down we can use an airsoft high-powered machine gun
While I don't have a problem with drones in and of themselves I do have an issue with drones flying over private property and invading privacy. The real problem is that existing legislation in most areas do not explicitly address the concerns of property owners regarding usage over property.
In Illinois trespass is defined as “an invasion of the exclusive possession and physical condition of land.” and so if you operate a drone below the FAA's navigable airplace (which is 200 feet) then it would be trespassing. Since many drones operate below 200 feet a case of tresspassing could be filed. Additionally, a case could be filed regarding the invasion of privacy but only under a specific set of circumstances.
Recording a construction site would not be a violation of privacy rights and as long as the drone is either over public property or 200 feet above private property it wouldn't be trespassing either.
A case involving someone shooting a drone down was tested in KY in 2015 [Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 503.080] where the person shooting the drone claimed it was recording his teenage daughter sunbathing. If that were true the person operating the drone could have faced legal consequences - especially if she was in the nude since that would be CP - but he decided not to wait. He was then arrested for shooting the drone down, but the judge dismissed the case specifically because the drone flight did constitute both an illegal tresspass and a violation of privacy and per the stand your ground laws he did have a right to shoot it down under those specific set of circumstances.
That is what has caused people to believe that they can shoot drones down, but that's not true either. It was only lawful in a specific location and under a specific set of circumstances. The drone operator in that case in turn filed a federal suit [Boggs v. Merideth, 16-cv-6-DJH (W.D. Ky)] asking that a drone be declared an aircraft so that it wouldn't be treated as tresspassing in navigable airspaces, which is still pending, but even if the courts decided that it is an aircraft that would not have changed the outcome of that case since navigable airspaces are above 200 feet. The only way that would change things is if they decided to lower the navigable airspace as a result which would seriously impact property owners. The largest concern being 4th ammendment concerns. If, for example, they lowered the public space to 20 feet above your property it would allow the police to search without warrants very easily which is why everyone is watching. In any case shooting a drone down above 200 feet would certainly result in criminal charges and since you probably can't measure that with your eyes it's safest to not shoot them down.
I think you made some great points. I’ve been into Surface R/C vehicles for 25 years and I just recently started looking into buying a nice drone.
However with that said…I’m on 10 acres in northern Wisconsin with old retired guys around me. So if there’s a drone over my property. It’s coming down. Not saying how, not saying when. Just that it’s not making it home.
As far as calling the police… Police in these situations are largely worthless. Even if they do track down the owner and that person admits to flying in the vicinity. There’s literally nothing they can do other than say “ that guy didn’t like that”. Which for some flip flop wearing guys might be enough to prevent it from ever happening again. But in most situations that would only provoke further, non punishable, offenses by the operator. In any rural area, like mine, the police are probably not gonna care if you take down a drone. And I can assure you that they would probably take your side and ask the drone operator “why were you flying over his property in the first place?” But on the off chance they do care, I can promise you our police department of 4 officers has ZERO ability to get any more information than I can. Especially long after the sighting occurs…
So, do you also shoot down manned aircraft that pass over your property ?
@@WitchidWitchid I think the issue is that a drone can hover over an area for a long period of time-the only purpose I can think of is to capture information about residents, or any activity at the property. People have fences around their property to prevent this intrusion, and protect that privacy. A manned craft like a commercial plane won't be gathering information or invading anyone's privacy in my opinion.
Sounds like you're a Grade A #1 certified peeper to me.
@@bobert5785 There is no expectation of perfect privacy even if you are on your own property. Anything someone see's from a public space they can film. A drone doesn't even have to fly over a given property to see into fenced off areas. If I send a drone even just 50 feet over my own back yard I can pretty much see into everyone else's back yard on the street. Yet I am over my own property and not breaking any laws. Much the same way a kid climbing a tree can see over fences and into everyones yard yet isn't breaking any laws.
In my opinion drones are a non issue unless someone is deliberately harassing you such as flying very low into your property, trying to level with and peek into windows, coming in right over your head etc. where its obviously deliberate and targetted. At that point the activity needs to be stopped.
Regarding privacy concerns if gathering intelligence on someone is the main goal a low flying drone isn't a smart choice. They are noisy, slow, easily located, and can be shot down. Real intel would be gathered via hidden cameras, stealth high altitude drones and spy aircraft and sattelites and even old school low tech means.
@@bobert5785 You are assuming that the camera is pointing DOWN. It might be recording a landscape, a sunset, or any number of other subjects having zero to do with what's immediately below the aircraft.
This last season my buddy was finding dead crops in odd spots on his farm so we installed 2 cameras on his silo and 1 on an old HAM radio tower. Sure enough drones were being flown nightly over his land and right about where the crops seem to be dying. About a week later he called me over and sure enough there were 2 drones he picked off in the middle of his field that had cloth pouches fixed to them on one end and a claw type on the other and the pouches contained soil with bollworm and aphids from what he said. The drones that I've seen in the past have identifying markings and these had nothing which by regulation they need to in Minnesota. After the 2 he downed we haven't seen a single one since.
What a crock!
@@drhominidae What exactly are you referring to?
What model of drone was shot down? What’s the working theory? Competitive neighbor? Some weird conspiracy theory??
@@EricsWormPlayground I know absolutely nothing about drones but he did have the PD and Minnesota department of agriculture at his place over this. If I remember right the drone was a DHY or DAI or something like that. I do remember the PD saying it was illegal because it had no ID numbers and weighed a certain amount. It had small black 2 finger claw thing with wires on the bottom. 1 of his neighbors passed away the winter before this and his family wanted to sell the property to my buddy so they setup a meeting and a couple weeks before they were to meet, the family said they sold it to an interested buyer. It sold for thousands more than what they were asking my buddy and it is and has been empty to this day. It has a large barn, smaller barn, house and no equipment left that we can see when we drove to check out who was there to introduce ourselves (small town courtesy). He hasn't seen anyone there and hasn't had any issues since the drones were seen. On the footage it looks like the drones are coming from (sort of) the same direction as that property but can't be sure.
@@mdh1775 interesting info. I wonder who the saboteur was. DJI drones are a very popular brand, some used in agriculture to drop pesticides. The weight of the drone isn’t an illegal part, but the registration is an FAA requirement at least in recent history.
Interesting story, thanks for sharing!
I wear one of those bright vests with "FAA Certified Drone Pilot" on the back which implies that I am more informed about piloting drones than most bystanders. I was wondering if someone has some type of handout that includes answers to typical questions bystanders may have such as is it OK to fly over private property, or is it OK to shoot down a drone. The handout could include QR codes to appropriate FAA web sites to backup what the flyer says.
How do you find out who is flying over your back yard and watching your daughter without taking the drone out of the sky?
The bottom line at the end of the day is just fly respectfully. Do your best if you are going to fly over private property don’t stop and take pictures just buzz by fast and high. This is a very good video there’s a lot of controversy out there for sure. Being a drone pilot I am extremely sensitive to privacy, one time I was flying at the beach and there were some RVs and I was just zooming down the beach doing some shots of just the waves, but this guy came up on me so hard and fast he was ready to go to fight I looked at him and said don’t worry I’m not gonna put the pictures of you and your girlfriend on the Internet. His eyes got his big is silver dollars he walked away.
It all comes down to personal perception --- I was flying over a dog park a couple years ago and a couple got mad at me for "flying low" and irritating their dogs --- I calmly told them that they and their stupid dog don't own the airspace above the park and literally anything can "irritate" a dog, such as a gunshot, music, screaming, etc. They were threatening to call police on me but I said go ahead and we'll see who wins. They just walked away pissed off knowing they lost LOL.
@@fredwerza3478 In some states they can arrest you for disorderly conduct. With your arrogant, insolent attitude, I suspect the cops would gladly remove you and your drone.
Love the video people get with drones, would probably really enjoy the hobby myself. But if my family was being violated or harassed by one, it would go down. And a gun is not necessary to accomplish this task.
Yup, just need to spend about $40 on an antenna and a raspberry pi, it'll look like a random malfunction
@@JohnnyTromboner ...or a catapult.
@@JohnnyTromboner what is the raspberry thing?
@@rucaroo33 it's a computer chip used in hobby and everyday objects.
The only reason construction would get upset is probably because most cut corners and probably don’t want any one finding out about it
People who use drones for work such as topography etc it’s understandable. For a person who does it as a Hobby it can be very odd. There are many cases of people using them to look in windows and invade privacy. It’s because of these people that many of us don’t care for these devices.
To sum it all up, it’s creepy and often times so are the people operating them.
Wouldn’t hurt to get a new Hobby. 👍🏼✌🏼🇺🇸
PS I had a drone fly and hover over my backyard while my wife and I were sitting on our back porch talking. It absolutely felt like an invasion of privacy. Creepy Drone People just stop it.
You should have stood your ground and called the police. I had someone threaten me, and I wasn't going to tolerate it, so I called myself. The police put the guy in his place and I've not had a problem from him since.
Told several people to go ahead and call the cops while I was shooting this property or that. None of them has.
Always stand up to bullies and morons... most of them don't know what to do after you refuse to be scared of them.
@@harrysteeletreo1 Keep it up, you'll meet the wrong person one day.
As a Paraglider pilot, I am concerned about drones contacting and damaging my nylon wing, and I have had a couple of near miss events. Our local flying site has signage stating that drones are not allowed in our landing zone to avoid the collision of the two. I don't believe in over regulation of either hobby. Drones are really cool. Just fly respectfully.
When Carlsbad PD got there new drone a few years back and buzzed bedroom windows in the neighborhood for a few weeks I definitely thought about it.
I would be very uncomfortable flying a drone over someone else's home.
Kind creepy don't you think...