Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Strv fm/28

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  • Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
  • More commonly known as NC-27, this is the sole surviving member of the species.
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  • @jimbo9305
    @jimbo9305 4 года назад +710

    The more I see of the Chieftain the more I understand that he doesn't necessarily like tanks, but rather tracks. Tanks just happen to have interesting tracks.

    • @gusgone4527
      @gusgone4527 4 года назад +61

      TRACKS. An interest that I share. He needs to do a full video on the different types of track and how they relate to each other and country of origin.

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 года назад +71

      @@gusgone4527 Is it overly complex and performs amazingly if maintained? It's probably German.
      Is it brutally simple and gets the job done assuming that the tank itself won't last much longer? It's probably Russian.
      Is it something that was left over from WWI? It's probably French.

    • @kitten-inside
      @kitten-inside 4 года назад +17

      Inb4 we get a series on excavators, bulldozers, etc.

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 года назад +17

      @@kitten-inside If The_Chieftain makes it I'll watch it.

    • @UnintentionalSubmarine
      @UnintentionalSubmarine 4 года назад +8

      @@kitten-inside I'm sure there are a few interesting ones out there. Like say those enormous ones. He would probably be in the first level of heaven looking at the track tension for those.

  • @LN997-i8x
    @LN997-i8x 4 года назад +585

    These videos are so much better without the blaring music, choppy editing and antiquated TV-like transitions!

    • @Sam-hy2rc
      @Sam-hy2rc 4 года назад +105

      My mind actually overlays the blaring music whenever i watch this. Send help.

    • @ZOGLaboratories
      @ZOGLaboratories 4 года назад +10

      Massive improvement, much appreciated.

    • @hammer326
      @hammer326 4 года назад +4

      THANK YOU!

    • @AshleyBlackwater
      @AshleyBlackwater 4 года назад +1

      @@Sam-hy2rc Same, was looking for this comment

    • @santiago5388
      @santiago5388 4 года назад +9

      Gonna be honest, some sort of intro is needed, but the guitar loop isn't missed

  • @turbowolf302
    @turbowolf302 4 года назад +216

    "Little nuts that you can play with"
    Don't laugh....don't laugh.... I said don't laugh...
    crap I'm laughing.

  • @zbyszanna
    @zbyszanna 4 года назад +206

    No annoying background music - right from the start this video is 1000 times better than the WG ones.

  • @Lesopil
    @Lesopil 4 года назад +180

    Chieftain after a month of quarantine: the driver's position of this NC-27 is actually not uncomfortable.

  • @quentintin1
    @quentintin1 4 года назад +109

    for the turret operation, the French manual "Aide-mémoire d'instruction pour les unités de chars légers: canon de 37 S.A." (instructional aide-memoire for the light tank units: 37mm S.A. cannon) says page 25:
    III. - How i shoot
    I aim the weapon
    - I take support against the turret projections, I unlock it with the left hand; (the turret projections are the two lobes under the turret hatch, i suppose it says to brace your back between them)
    - I take rough aim by turning the turret until the weapon is in the direction of the target; (if the above assumption is correct, you should aim the turret by rotating your upper body, no hands on the gun, you look through the front slit in the cupola)
    - I apply the eye on the rubber eye cup;
    - I shoulder the weapon, right hand to the handle; (only there you start to handle the weapon)
    - I bring the intersection of the lines of the reticule corresponding to the distance of the objective on the middle of the objective.
    I maintain it in direction
    - I maintain the eye on the eye cup despite the displacement of the weapon of the shocks of the tank;
    - I follow the objective in the scope;
    - I grip the gun with the handle with the left hand, the shoulder strongly pushed on the stock. (at this point, both hands are controlling the gun)
    I fire
    - I maintain the eye on the eye cup to observe the falling point and maintain or modify the aim;
    - I hold my breath;
    - I close progressively the right hand on the trigger;
    - If I want to fire a 2nd shell, i take with the right hand a shell in the right basket, my eye not leaving the eye cup; I load without disturbing the aim; I precise the aim; I hold my breath; I close progressively the right hand on the trigger.
    also the manuals says that the "mushroom cap" of the turret cupola should be able to be opened for observation
    the Aide mémoire i cite on the Gallica website: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k96103707.r=Aide-m%C3%A9moire%20d%27instruction%20pour%20les%20unit%C3%A9s%20de%20chars%20l%C3%A9gers%20canon%20de%2037%20S.A?rk=21459;2

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 4 года назад +14

      @Chieftain This is worthy of highlighting ;-) ^^
      @Max Great comment and brief insight into operating manual ;-P

    • @emil4156
      @emil4156 4 года назад +3

      Very interesting, thanks for posting!

    • @thebog11
      @thebog11 4 года назад +4

      You forgot one line:
      I do not aim with my hand. He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 4 года назад +17

    "Track tension itself is adjusted... by a large nut back here." That's an unkind way of describing Crewman Andersson.
    Also, I can't unsee the happy French face that the driver's viewport cover makes with the slot when it's in the "up" position.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 4 года назад

      Have you found the Swedish crewman in the individual crew's personal options, that there is a portrait characterture similar to Mr. Moran yet?
      ...It's no. #7 I think, ..or a close number to it.

    • @NephilBlade
      @NephilBlade 4 года назад +2

      We call the large nut Göran, he's odd.

  • @tuckcuttertuck6802
    @tuckcuttertuck6802 4 года назад +60

    Mystery hole . 1.Well it is were a high volume of cool air rushes in. 2. This a French built tank. 3. It looks like a bottle of wine would fit nicely. Forced air wine cooler.

  • @peterlewerin4213
    @peterlewerin4213 4 года назад +7

    I visited Arsenalen with my father, a couple of years before he passed away. He was a tank captain who had worked with many of the vehicles there since he joined the service in the 1950s. I would have walked right past the fm/28 as old junk, but he could tell me a little about that one too. His main experience was with the Strv 81, 74, 102, and 103, though. Listening to tank chats, especially at Arsenalen, brings my Pop a bit closer, that's all. Thanks.

  • @ivanj05
    @ivanj05 4 года назад +47

    The quality of your self produced videos continues to improve Chief, another interesting watch.

  • @herosstratos
    @herosstratos 4 года назад +48

    The last rearward roadwheel might be used against inside bulging of the track while going backwards (German: “Sackbildung“).

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 4 года назад

      ..as well, yes, it would also help in that function too, due to torque from the reverse gear's ratio, I believe.

  • @nonamesplease6288
    @nonamesplease6288 4 года назад +38

    There's an interesting picture of one of these in the Yugoslav army, defeated by the Germans and burned out. Great video!

    • @quentintin1
      @quentintin1 4 года назад +2

      yeah, a few European countries bought a couple of NC-1 and NC-2 during the late 1920's- early 1930's for evaluation, none adopted them (either because they were unsatisfactory or they had enough Renault FT on hand already and didn't see the NCs as much of an upgrade

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 4 года назад +1

      If you look at Nick's expression in parts of this video, you can see him imagining what combat would be like in this vehicle. It would be noisy, poisonous, and brutal. You would not see the enemy much, and fire blind most of the time. Terrifying to the crews.

    • @nonamesplease6288
      @nonamesplease6288 4 года назад +3

      @@neilwilson5785As he states, it's basically an FT, which is borne out by the interior, which is exactly the same as an FT. Fighting an FT was a horrific experience in WW 1, but it's really hard to imagine facing Pzkpfw III's and IV's in this thing. It's not only suicide, its suicide after putting up with fighting inside this miserable interior and with the high speed suspension throwing you around the inside

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 4 года назад +2

      You guys are comparing what is essentially a WW1 vehicle to much later ones. Considering how bad it is in the Mk.IV, Saint-Chamond, and A7V; the Renault isn't much different

    • @nonamesplease6288
      @nonamesplease6288 4 года назад +1

      @@neurofiedyamato8763 Yes, true. No WWI tank was a joy to fight in. The Schneider also seems to have been particularly awful. The NC-1 in the picture I referred to was knocked out by the Germans during the campaign in Yugoslavia. How much worse, then, to face modern German tanks in one of these?

  • @Edax_Royeaux
    @Edax_Royeaux 4 года назад +26

    Is it a foolish dream to still hope for an AMX ELC bis episode?

    • @weld546
      @weld546 4 года назад +13

      He said recently that he has plans to go visit again Saumur (but not in the near future), so there is hope.

    • @smogdanoff7053
      @smogdanoff7053 4 года назад +4

      That just made me think of the fact that the RU251 is still considered [top] secret, as if it is a viable weapon today

  • @AmazingAce
    @AmazingAce 4 года назад +10

    8:10 There is two of these openings on the Renault FT's engine deck. One is an opening to the fuel tank to refuel and the other is an opening to the radiator to replenish water. That piece on the NC is to resupply water for the radiator, and you can almost see one a little further above for the fuel.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 4 года назад +2

      true certainly of that rear decking/cover was basically a new, late or post war production FT18 componant, perhaps this NC's water/coolant tanks are missing? ..as are its radiators and main cooling fan & ducts, fan housing/rear compartment bulkhead.

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад +1

      @@razor1uk610 Yes, they do seem to be missing.

  • @breitve
    @breitve 4 года назад +25

    sad to see no "oh my god, the tank is on fire". especially since the Hatch was spring loaded, and there might even be a chance in hell of you getting out (?)

    • @monostripeexplosiveexplora2374
      @monostripeexplosiveexplora2374 4 года назад +3

      naa man, a 3 piece hatch with one but springloaded.. throwing those heavy front doors open in hurry can´t be fun..

    • @Mach-2-Fishbed
      @Mach-2-Fishbed 4 года назад

      @@monostripeexplosiveexplora2374 Not to mention the corners of the lower hatches scrape against the bottom of the front hatch, and you can see how the paint is gone where it contacts, making it harder (I'd be worried about doing it quickly and hard, possibly releasing the lock holding the front plate and getting a good smack in the face).

    • @steffennilsen2132
      @steffennilsen2132 4 года назад

      All things considered, this is still one of the easiest driver positions to get out of. Now that hatch for the commander however, if the driver can't or hasn't bailed yet that looks tight

  • @briansmithwins
    @briansmithwins 4 года назад +39

    Thank you for not having music playing over your commentary and no interstitials

  • @Bochi42
    @Bochi42 4 года назад +7

    This is pretty fascinating to be honest. I love how tanks like this show the development of tanks during the neglected interwar period. The miserable conditions and how tight they are also remind me of the type of men who might have crewed them. I'm old enough to recall these short wiry men who grew up during the Great Depression. Not much over five foot sometimes but made of leather and well, hard steel wire it seemed. I could have 10 inches and I don't know how many pounds on them and have to ask for help whereupon they'd embarrassingly easily do what I was struggling with. Learned to be humble from them too.
    My grandfather was a big man for the time at 5'10" farm fed from a place the soil didn't blow away even if they didn't have much else. Worked oil rigs, dangerous hard physical work and never packed on a pound it seemed.
    I guess my point is despite all the discomfort and poor ergonomics from a modern design point of view, I think those just point out how very tough those old tankers were. Point out all the faults but take some time to admire the men who sucked it up and did the best they could with what they were given, eh?
    Really liked your video about the early war tankers in the Philippines for example. Case of "Yeah we're pretty well fecked.. I mean ..conditions are less than ideal but we'll carry on anyway." We do tune in for the tank details of course but a tank is just an empty vessel and since you're doing your own thing now without WoT could be a nice idea to throw in some first hand accounts and all. Personally I suspect some of those small belly escape hatches were Really only used for shitting and pissing out of, but I don't think anyone has written a Phd thesis on the topic.
    If you do read this I'd apologize for being a bit crude in my language, probably not acceptable for youtube, but I assume anyone who's been a US Army soldier is comfortable with a certain vernacular.

  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto 4 года назад +2

    It's great to have someone as knowledgeable as Chieftain who realizes he can talk about at least three armies in this video. This is a very rare find indeed that helps illustrate the interwar evolution of the tank. The lack of even one machine gun falls into the "what were they thinking?" category.

  • @Sedan57Chevy
    @Sedan57Chevy 4 года назад +64

    In 2020, you'd just LS swap the FT17 to make it faster.

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 года назад +7

      I really do wonder how much performance some of these tanks would gain with a modern engine swap.

    • @T3hderk87
      @T3hderk87 4 года назад +7

      Put a 12v common tail Cummins in it, that thing will be a drag racing machine.

    • @Feiora
      @Feiora 4 года назад +6

      @@Hybris51129 Its abit more complicated than you guys think, theres ALOT of parts that'd need changing and then you gotta make sure everything fits in the antique hull, but incidentally they'd have rather great performance if lousy crew accommodations, its just the cost for doing up an antique for novelty's sake isn't feasible unless you are Bill Gates or Elon Musk...

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 года назад +5

      @@Feiora Oh yes I totally agree there are a mountain of issues that would get in the way and bankrupt a few small countries as well. The amount of fabrication alone would take months to do. Still it's a dream.

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 4 года назад +3

      I'm totally gonna pimp out my tanks with some racing & street mods when i win the lottery. Chromed Rims and custom Jesus with a crown of thorns paint job, and hydraulics to make the tank bounce to my custom 1999 Alpine stereo with 10" sub-woofers....dude...why not? Well, maybe not with something that's the last of it's kind. I'll L-swap a Scorpion or cummins swap a Bulldog though.

  • @rabidfish88
    @rabidfish88 4 года назад +1

    There is something quite charming about these little tanks. Always happy to learn a little more about them.

  • @strangerakari2836
    @strangerakari2836 4 года назад +3

    No music and full episode as one? Thanks for your support, dear patrions, too bad I can't be one of you.

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos 4 года назад

      It's a full episode because it's a small tank.

  • @gopipo123
    @gopipo123 4 года назад +11

    basically for added turret speed detatch 1 infantryman per tank who helps turning from the outside xD

    • @tommyfred6180
      @tommyfred6180 4 года назад +4

      with thinking like that you sir are just what the government are looking for :)

    • @Wix92
      @Wix92 4 года назад +1

      Infantryman on the outside gets shot, TC throws his back out because of the sudden increase in turret rotation resistance... Seems perfect, ship it!

  • @Rommel_209
    @Rommel_209 4 года назад +21

    Is it just me or that tank is bloody cute. Imagine being in war nowadays and you see one of those thing rolling on the battlefield, I would go "Awww...that's cute".
    And I will immediately fire an RPG at it...

    • @richardcutts196
      @richardcutts196 4 года назад +1

      Just before it gets blown into (even tinier) bits.

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад +1

      FT family tree has all the cutest tanks

    • @johnmatthesen1186
      @johnmatthesen1186 4 года назад

      Amazing Ace You forgot about the Bob Semple

    • @Bochi42
      @Bochi42 4 года назад +3

      But imagine being in a war in 1927 only having a rifle or mg. Then I'd go aww cute, killing machine I don't have a ranged weapon against! An anti-tank rifle would be nice but you'd still need to puncture, hit the crew or something vital. They look innocent enough to us but not sure the soldiers of the time would've thought so. Though lacking an MG seems like a major fault in this one. 37mm HE would seem to me to be more suppressive fire to help out your infantry than something to cause casualties. Still any tank is probably better than no tank.

    • @LordChesalot
      @LordChesalot 4 года назад

      @@Bochi42 chieftain did mention a coaxial machine gun

  • @fien111
    @fien111 3 года назад +2

    "You can easily move the gun and swing the whole turret from the outside"
    I imagine some folks on the testing range used that to mess with the commander at least once

    • @Galactipod
      @Galactipod Год назад +2

      And if enemy infantry were to get close enough...

  • @korvtm
    @korvtm 4 года назад +1

    In the mid sixties I was at an armed forces day program,at Aberdeen Proving Grounds,in Maryland. They had a replica of one small U.S. tankette WW1 style which was fitted only with a machine Gun.It rolled out of a covered area,started firing at a bunch of baloons,tethered about waist high downrange.While the little tankette was firing an M60 rollied out fired a flechette round at the baloons.Qiute bit of difference considering there was only about fifty years difference in the age of the two vehicles.

  • @GustavLindstroem
    @GustavLindstroem 4 года назад +1

    I saw this tank just a few months ago when visiting Arsenalen for the first time.
    Pretty interesting collection of tanks they have, this one looked almost as arcaeic as the one behind it...
    Fun and informative as usual!

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 4 года назад

      Well, they are technically a French and a German example of the same, 2nd generation of AFVs

  • @Bochi42
    @Bochi42 4 года назад +1

    The bloopers are a nice touch. Show how painstakingly you work to get these videos right and professional. You could half-ass them and we'd still watch because they're so informative but you don't.

  • @Joelsfilmer
    @Joelsfilmer 4 года назад +47

    I see a trend here. It appears like any tour of the inside of a french tank more resembles spelunking than any actual ergonomic overview. With so many terrible vehicles over the years it really baffles me how nobody in the design and supply chain ever blinked and actually questioned their design standards. I suppose it's common practice in french military industry. Weather it be ironclad ships, pre-dreadnoughts, small arms or tanks they are usually quick to break paradigms but then refuse to actually improve upon their grand innovations when everyone else learns from their mistakes and subsequently overtakes them.

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 года назад +6

      Agreed. The Somua seems to be just a scaled-up FT, with the same shitty ergonomics especially in the turret.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 4 года назад +12

      The problem with French Tanks was that they were the best in the world at the time. They were in desperate need of improvement, but the French were on the cutting edge. But a lack of money and manpower was an issue that few nations can overcome and still retain state of the art military hardware.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 4 года назад +10

      @Edax
      I think the biggest issue was cost.
      Look how long they used the old FT turrets and obsolete gun.
      And even some of the later turret designs were essentialy the same design holding a finger under their nose saying "no, I'm a different design. can't you see I have a mustache?"

    • @ARCNA442
      @ARCNA442 4 года назад +9

      @@Edax_Royeaux The more French tanks the Chieftain reviews, the more I can't take the idea that the French were on the cutting edge of tank design seriously. They had some revolutionary ideas during WWI, but they never really went any further and as soon as everyone else restarted tank production the French designs were quickly rendered obsolete.

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад +3

      It was a bad mix of keeping what worked in WWI including the methodical battle doctrine and lack of funding for any largescale modernization projects.

  • @soulslaveone
    @soulslaveone 4 года назад

    Finally!! No more background music. This decision made the channel twice as good. Thank you, Chieftain!!

  • @jesper509
    @jesper509 4 года назад +2

    Thanks! My day is now much better 👍

  • @genericpersonx333
    @genericpersonx333 4 года назад +10

    4:30 Is suspect that was an early attempt to improve vertical obstacle climbing performance. Basically, if it works the way I think it does, it would let the track fold over the top of an edged vertical obstacle, such as a curb or stout wall, improving the contact area at that critical point, providing a brief period of extra grip (and reducing the risk of breaking tracks) before the roadwheels proper can come into play. After all, hitting a curb's edge with your rubber tires too hard can break them, imagine what damage a well-made Swedish curb could to a bunch of relatively soft-metal links under severe stress?

    • @dmg4415
      @dmg4415 4 года назад +6

      Until latley, all swedish curbs was granite, and rather high.

    • @ant4812
      @ant4812 4 года назад +1

      Might it be there to prevent the track "bunching"?

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 4 года назад +2

      I considered that. in various physics simulation games, curling inwards do help in grip. But IRL bunching up the tracks like that is undesirable. It means the tracks is too loose and need tension.

  • @justforever96
    @justforever96 5 месяцев назад

    I feel like those extra wheels are basically just to support the track when the tank is driving over obstacles. It puts a lot of stress on the track when you have a relatively long unsupported area holding all the weight of the tank up. And they also didn't have a lot of experience in what was actually required. But it's like how the gave the British tanks that long overhanging and sloped track, same reason the FT got the big front wheel, etc. With those small roadwheels if you come againsts a log or a concrete barricade, the unsupported track will just press against it until the track basically hauls the small roadwheel up and over it. The extra wheel helps it ride on and off more smoothly.

  • @johnberryhill8106
    @johnberryhill8106 4 года назад

    This is pretty awesome..... I had no idea what this vehicle looked from the inside...... thank you !

  • @ABrit-bt6ce
    @ABrit-bt6ce 4 года назад +7

    Those guys have a channel now. I'm subscribed but I'm damned if I can find a link right now.
    Wait, over.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  4 года назад +6

      ruclips.net/channel/UCo25byt2hfikG3vuU00Zuog out.

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce 4 года назад +6

      @@TheChieftainsHatch I love the Swedish Chef.

  • @piers995
    @piers995 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for another fascinating video. Have you heard all about Captain Tom Moore (ex Royal Armoured Corps) who at 99/100 has raised over £22,000,000 for the NHS during this Corona Virus? Crazy idea but I wonder if World of Tanks might consider modelling a Valentine or Lee as a premium vehicle, representing one of the tanks he crewed in World War II as a commemoration and perhaps to raise funds for charity.

  • @kimcason8764
    @kimcason8764 2 года назад

    Thinking 'MEH' is a perfect discription of this Gawd Awful tank..!
    Thx for your Efforts all the Same. Kim in Oz😎

  • @MrLogain85
    @MrLogain85 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for putting out a great video, also thanks for climbing round inside that tiny little box and doing such a good job of filming, my heart went out to you when you were trying to do the turret, all i could think was Jesus that is tight, what with you, lighting and trying to get a camera in there and focusing. Well Done!
    Stay safe Chief :-)

  • @rvail136
    @rvail136 4 года назад

    Thanks Nic, well done sir, as always.

  • @beaker126
    @beaker126 4 года назад +3

    With no firewall I bet it got hot as hell in there that little space pretty quickly.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  4 года назад +9

      I didn’t mention it, but the firewall was removed and lying next to the hull ammorack.

    • @beaker126
      @beaker126 4 года назад +1

      @@TheChieftainsHatch That makes more sense, thank you.

    • @Ciderwinder
      @Ciderwinder 4 года назад +1

      Some assembly required.

    • @Kablemodem
      @Kablemodem 4 года назад +1

      @@Ciderwinder It's an Ikea.

  • @LmgWarThunder
    @LmgWarThunder 4 года назад

    I understand doing a 1-part video for an FT based tank, but I really liked the 2-part videos with one looking at the outside and the other looking at the inside of the tank. Also would love another "oh bugger the tank is on fire"

  • @jameswade6641
    @jameswade6641 4 года назад

    I love these obscure tanks. A highly enjoyable clip.

  • @ned900
    @ned900 4 года назад

    The blood in the turret was a nice touch

  • @joemasello519
    @joemasello519 4 года назад

    My favorite feature of this particular tank is the happy face decal on the front.

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning 4 года назад

    Outstanding video and presentation as always.

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw 4 года назад +2

    "I may be ugly but my grandson is S.leek, S.hiny and permanently Hull Down!

  • @acetankerbro4377
    @acetankerbro4377 4 года назад +1

    I think this is my new favorite Swedish tank !

  • @richarddouglas688
    @richarddouglas688 4 года назад +3

    After you moved the main gun, I see where the Japanese got the idea of having vertical as well as horizontal trunnions.

  • @ThroneOfBhaal
    @ThroneOfBhaal 4 года назад

    Ahhh much better. Pure Chieftain. Great work as always. Thank you for the hard work and time. :)

  • @rafaelrodrigues7971
    @rafaelrodrigues7971 4 года назад +43

    Imagine what kinds of landships we would have today if it wasn't for the French inventing this bad boy.

    • @adrianalprin5752
      @adrianalprin5752 4 года назад +18

      We'd have an Abrams 25M long with 10 Turrets 24 crew members and have about 30 Machine guns

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 4 года назад +10

      It's called the TOG II

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 4 года назад +20

      @@adrianalprin5752 300 machine guns*
      They're Americans after all

    • @mikeganzert6666
      @mikeganzert6666 4 года назад +7

      @@derrickstorm6976 Ah yes, the cult of the machine gun

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +1

      Nah. Someone would have converged on that configuration eventually.

  • @isaacmcdaniel6278
    @isaacmcdaniel6278 4 года назад

    I feel like the chieftan's main message with every video is that maintenance is the thing that wins wars..... that and regular track tension.

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC923 4 года назад

    Wow that turret is really bad! The edits at the back show how hard it is to actually film these, thanks Nick!

  • @hellzs
    @hellzs 4 года назад

    maybe the fixed road wheal in front of the drive sprocket is there to stop the track from bunching up when going in reverse

  • @danieloakley7190
    @danieloakley7190 4 года назад +4

    Great video!
    However I was wondering whether the engine compartment would usually be open to the crew compartment?

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  4 года назад +6

      No, the firewall was dismounted and left leaning against the hull ammo rack.

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 4 года назад

    4:55 from an engineering standpoint, that front 'road wheel' probably exists to keep the link angles from going too far into the negative since they're overlapped... it would potentially keep the track from ripping it's pins out or bending slip plates outward when the machine's forcing it's way up an obstacle.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 года назад +1

    4:35
    Maybe the forward wheel is springed this way because they were more afraid it'll collide with other wheels of the bogey right next to it below due to limited space? Hence why the similar wheel on the back is completly fixed in place since it has even less space?

  • @KnifeChatswithTobias
    @KnifeChatswithTobias 4 года назад

    That one is definitely claustrophobic. And it's bugger than the FT and missing part of the interior!

  • @ivankrylov6270
    @ivankrylov6270 4 года назад +1

    I wonder if the little wheel near the drive sprocket is there to reinforce the track when going up at steep angles, so the drive axel doesn't take all of the pressure

  • @Bird_Dog00
    @Bird_Dog00 4 года назад +26

    Looking at this vehicle, I wonder if the main problem was that Renault stuck with the basic design for too long.
    I mean, it was a revolutionary desgin when it was fielded, but if you take a step back, it has so many shortcommings, like the very narrow hull or the lack of a mechanical turret traverse, or the terrible visibility. It realy limited what a light tank could do.
    Speaking of the ability to look out of the bloody thing - or the lack theroff: I noticed that this comes up a lot in later designs as well, with very little - if any - improvements. Why?
    The descision to not mount vision block could have been simply due to cost, or those not yet being available at all. But why not install movable visors with a larger vision slit that can be coverd with a narrower one?

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 4 года назад

      That's kind of the theme of the idea after the 18-hundreds; people don't want anything old to change for better if they're not forced to by some competing force

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад +1

      Definitely stuck with the design for too long. But there was heavy budget cuts in Renault during the 1920s so any development of future tanks was very slow. Pair that with the lack of military funding creating a slow modernization program and you get the Renault NC.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 4 года назад +2

      The French military had a common problem: its government overlords were utterly inconsistent. After 1918, the military basically planned the perfect new army, with innovative and very efficient weapon concepts aplenty. The government then spent the next twenty years deferring, delaying, or changing its mind as new administrations with varying degrees of distrust for the Army came and went almost annually. Hard to get innovation through when one year, a Marxist minister is demanding the Army disband to prevent it being a tool of bourgeois oppression and the next, you have a tough veteran of Verdun offering a mountain of helpful and unhelpful suggestions based on his personal experiences. Since government had a virtual monopoly on arms development, it pretty much rendered the best-laid plans impossible to implement.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 4 года назад +1

      That does indeed explain a lot of what went on, Generic Person. And I allready had an overview over the utter mess french politics were at the time. It does however not explain all shortcommings.
      I used the example of the terrible vewiports on those vehicles and how they rendred the crew effectively blind. I don't think politics were to blame for those.
      Here I think that a sigificant upgrade of the vehicles' fighting capabilities could have ben made - and even retrofited to existing vehicles - without much hassle or cost.

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад

      @@Bird_Dog00 Well in the case of the Renault NC, its origins began as early as 1918 when Louis Renault began looking for upgrades to FT maneuverability. The improved FTs were supposed to fight in a Great War that was supposed to continue into 1919 but the armistice came along which made tank development stall dramatically. There was suddenly not as high as a demand for tanks so innovation stopped as well. What Renault had was an upgrade to a tank that was supposed to fight a war that was over and whose production stalled into the 1920s, but still retaining 1918 design philosophy. And the French knew this, which is why it hardly served in the French army at all and became an export tank to supplement the FTs also for sale. What the French did use was the Char D1 and D2, spawned from the NC with those upgrades finally considered.

  • @roymuerlunos2426
    @roymuerlunos2426 4 года назад +24

    Inside the Chieftain's Clown Car

  • @jesterspawn
    @jesterspawn Год назад +1

    "...And for the modelers out there, who are insane..."
    I'm feeling a little bit called-out, but I do appreciate the consideration! 😅

  • @JagerLange
    @JagerLange 4 года назад

    I like what they've done placing Chieftain on that flock - it really looks like he's standing on it rather than just being plonked down.

  • @chucoxicano8856
    @chucoxicano8856 4 года назад +1

    "little nuts that you can play with"
    😂🤣

  • @basichistory
    @basichistory 4 года назад +9

    You didn't do "Oh my God the tank's on fire"

    • @RasEli03
      @RasEli03 4 года назад

      It isnt in the best shape

  • @Cliffdog01
    @Cliffdog01 4 года назад +3

    Do tanks at this time have sealed bearings yet or does someone have to go around with a grease gun periodically like on my dads old Ferguson Tractor?

  • @markidjanivulle3680
    @markidjanivulle3680 4 года назад

    Love yours videos, more, more and more "inside tanks" videos!

  • @lotusdev
    @lotusdev 4 года назад

    .Always a huge pleasure to see and listen to your videos. Errr the pickaxe is on the right side

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc4084 4 года назад

    Looks like the suspension angles for that front road wheels was to deflect when the vehicle went off ledges and the front drops.

  • @biobak123
    @biobak123 4 года назад +1

    Great vid. Keep it up!
    It the chieftain not an WG employee anymore?

  • @randyhavard6084
    @randyhavard6084 2 года назад

    Those "shock absorbers" are more likely just guide rods for the suspension to move straight up and down

  • @gunner1177
    @gunner1177 4 года назад

    hope to keep seeing more :)

  • @jensnimike176
    @jensnimike176 4 года назад

    You made it on the finishing line. The Museum closes for covid19 tomorrow.

    • @Axilur
      @Axilur 4 года назад

      He recorded these months ago doe.

  • @walklej
    @walklej 4 года назад

    I wonder if you might pay some attention to how easy or difficult a vehicle might be to maintain and or fix after damage. In addition some information on bridging equipment and recovery vehicles would be interesting. ?There is not much point in having a 50 ton tank unless you have something to tow it or a bridge (pontoon or rigid) or ferry capable of carrying it

  • @crito3534
    @crito3534 2 года назад

    The tracks on tank looks very similiar to those on the Char B1. I remember hearing someone from the Tank museum saying this type of track was unique to B1. Not a correct information then.

  • @robertbray8590
    @robertbray8590 4 года назад

    Think the first wheel and last wheel more to limit the swing of the first and last grounded boggy, as the pulling of the track would like to tip the boggy. the last wheel would be handy when reversing too

  • @rollastudent
    @rollastudent 4 года назад

    Those manual powered turrets must have been interesting on inclines

  • @militarybandsuk
    @militarybandsuk 4 года назад +1

    Great Video

  • @bengreen171
    @bengreen171 4 года назад

    from the positioning of the gear lever, it looks like the right tiller lever is in fact correctly installed to avoid clanging into the gear lever when fully pulled back. Maybe?
    Oh -and - is this not basically a Churchill prototype?

  • @torpaninternational8351
    @torpaninternational8351 4 года назад

    Yes, I agree the lack of music makes the production pleasant

  • @Handle423
    @Handle423 4 года назад +4

    7:45 God damn, that ratio though 😏

  • @GoranXII
    @GoranXII 4 года назад +1

    You know, it look to me like some of the neight of that protrusion from the top of the turret is to make a bullet (and rain-) proof ventilation system.

  • @stewartellinson8846
    @stewartellinson8846 4 года назад +1

    Would there originally have been a firewall between the engine compartment and the fighting compartment? I thought that was one of the advantages of the FT.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  4 года назад +1

      The firewall was dismounted for the video, you see it leaning against the hull ammo rack.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 4 года назад

    Must have been great fun being the TC. What with having to command the tank as well as load and fire the gun. And all while sat in a sling as you bounce across the countryside in a tiny metal box. And then tomorrow you get to do it all again. Got to be worth getting out of bed for.

  • @Sebastian-yl7nq
    @Sebastian-yl7nq 4 года назад

    Would be interesting to see something on the Strv-122. It's very underrated and often just put into the same corner as the Leopard 2A5

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 4 года назад

      It may be coming along, though not nessesarily as most of what makes the 122 different and better than the 2A5 on the inside is classified secret due to it beeing an active service vehicle.

  • @MONTANI12
    @MONTANI12 4 года назад

    A wild chieftain in its natural habitat, a tank!

  • @amschind
    @amschind 4 года назад +1

    Something tells me you'd have been issued a SMLE and a pair of Ammunition Boots had you tried to join the armored corps in 1916.

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney 4 года назад +4

    Wow, I am *loving* the lack of ridiculous electric guitar music, CGI battle transitions, and all the other sillyness that comes from WoT. Thank you patrons!

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 4 года назад +1

    I mean, it looks about as cute as a tank can get!

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 года назад

      Like a child's toy from the early the 20th century.

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад

      Lol, the FT was even called a "charming toy" when it was shown to the acceptance committee.

  • @rudolfthecat1176
    @rudolfthecat1176 4 года назад +1

    The Hungarian WWII medium tank, who's name I forgot, has a similair suspension..
    Would be interesting to see you do a video on that one, I think there are a few survivors. but of course money is limited and you can't travel rn-

    • @Mirageknight2133
      @Mirageknight2133 4 года назад +1

      Do you mean the Turan II M.40-41? They also have the Zinryi tank destroyer based on the same suspension

    • @rudolfthecat1176
      @rudolfthecat1176 4 года назад

      @@Mirageknight2133 yea that thing, they have fixed "roadwheels" that don't touch the ground, just like this thing,very peculiar
      But ngl I love it's looks

    • @Mirageknight2133
      @Mirageknight2133 4 года назад

      @@rudolfthecat1176 It really is nice. Kinda like a slightly better S35. Shame there's only one left in the world. All the way in Russia

    • @herosstratos
      @herosstratos 4 года назад

      And several Soviet tanks used this type of running gear (no wooden blocks), T16, MS1, T19, T12, T24 ... www.weapon.df.ru/tanks/sovtanks/first/firsttank-e.html

  • @dancollins4755
    @dancollins4755 4 года назад

    I wonder was this trip planned or did we find the only western country still open for business and plan a trip? None the less a great video and thanks for some new entertainment.

  • @GerardScroogeGoes
    @GerardScroogeGoes 4 года назад

    Nice video Chieftain. Question though you walked over.... The FT had a bulkhead between fighting compartment and engine.... Did Renault really delete it in its successor?

    • @stefankarlsson9762
      @stefankarlsson9762 4 года назад +1

      Normally there is a bulkhead, but we removed it just before, preparations for the filming.

  • @alphiethelobster9646
    @alphiethelobster9646 4 года назад

    Way to Serve the target, Chief. Will buy Merch when the stimulus check arrives.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 4 года назад +2

    Clearly, this is the best tank of the war!

    • @tlw4237
      @tlw4237 4 года назад +3

      The war in question being the Franco-Prussian?

  • @LeutnantJoker
    @LeutnantJoker 4 года назад

    Was that you scraping the inside paint of the drivers hatch off while opening the frontal armor? :D

  • @Katniss218
    @Katniss218 4 года назад +2

    Ah, the infamous Large Single Sprocket lmao

  • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
    @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 4 года назад +2

    Have you everconsider of visiting Japan and do video on Japanese tanks especially the last surviving Type 3 Chi-Nu ? Your video would be the first in the world lol

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  4 года назад +3

      Yes, but I'm not convinced the Japanese are overly welcoming of foreigners with cameras on their bases (where the old tanks are)

    • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
      @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 4 года назад

      @@TheChieftainsHatch You are probably right :(

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 4 года назад

      @@TheChieftainsHatch and I bet it would take a LOT of social lubricant to earn the kind of good will nessesary to convince a JGDF base commander and motor pool chief to transport the venerable relics to a location off base where it would be permissible to film them without risk of catching anything sensitive by accident?

  • @paulrward
    @paulrward 4 года назад

    According to the French, the Japanese actually purchased 23 of the NC 27s, apparently 3 for testing and then the other 20 for service use.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 4 года назад

      And those got scrapped in combat by BT-5s, BT-7s, T-26s, M3 Lees, and Matilda 2s...

    • @AmazingAce
      @AmazingAce 4 года назад

      Actually they did pretty well in the initial Chinese campaign and were taken out of service before then.

  • @snonsig2688
    @snonsig2688 4 года назад

    Would love an episode on the Sd.Kfz. 234/4

  • @FokkerBoombass
    @FokkerBoombass 4 года назад

    5:15 Bogeyception!

  • @gideonokun5538
    @gideonokun5538 4 года назад

    At 8:10 could that little port possibly be for mounting a pole for a flag or banner?

  • @Kralanil
    @Kralanil 4 года назад

    You really need a headcam chief.