Ninja Gaiden 2 is a Misunderstood Masterpiece || Game Discussion
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2019
- A casual vid I made about why I feel like NG2 has been greatly under appreciated and how deep and engaging the game-play is, once you get your feet under you X-D
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Itagaki would be proud of the sunglasses.
The only game where you feel like the cat amongst the pigeons
Yeah this game is one of my favs as well!
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This is hands down the BEST discussion and appreciation of the gem known as Ninja Gaiden II on youtube. It's one of my fave games of all time. I play it often on my XBOX ONE X. You outright earned me as a subscriber to your channel.
Oh that s awesome to hear!!! ❤
The xbox series x/s version has absolutely no slowdown at all. This game was so ahead of its time that it needed TWO more advanced generations of consoles to even run properly.
yeah no kidding ha! what a legendary game
The depth in DMC and Ninja Gaiden is different I feel. In DMC it’s about making these pointless long complex combos to build your style meter. In Ninja Gaiden it’s more about staying alive from the absolute insanity. I’m more of a DMC player but I like both a lot.
Same
Well said.
Cheesy sunglasses work well with the Electric Underground, valid
:-D
Completelý agree. I love this game with a passion.
I liked the giant staircase section a lot. Lag made it even more intense, it felt like the game itself was getting crushed under the weight of so much epicness.
Reviews in my country were really good by the way.
That s awesome! Your country has good taste :-)
@@TheElectricUnderground Not always. They gave Devil's Third a 7/10 🤣
In any case, I have introduced NG2 to many of my friends and we have had some awesome play sessions together till everyone of them had completed it.
this is that kind of game u come back play it many times and always a pleasure. nothing can compare.
For sure!!! Gonna do another vid on it soon
NG Black leans more on defensive play while NG2 is more on offensive. This idea is reinforced by the fact it includes mid-combo i-frames (teleport/dash moves)in some weapons as defensive maneuver. I agree with the first being just a stepping stone to what it is meant to be. We should consider NGB is a remaster therefore it should be more polished than NG2.
the enemy count in the xbone version at the staircase on master is exactly 120, just fyi ;-)
Lmao!
Actually had no idea NG2 was so divisive - I definitely prefer NG Black over it, since that game is just about the perfect "whole package" game, but it's the second best entry in the series in my mind, even ahead of vanilla NG1.
I have the same take
I remember about two years ago at a party, me and a friend were having a drunken discussion about action games, and I just kept hammering how special Ninja Gaiden II was to me as it incorporated what I wanted more from the first game: faster gameplay, and a lot more blood and gore.
Hell yeah!! You were right :-D
One of my favorite games of all time. I bought an Xbox One X when I found out Microsoft enhanced it. After I finish missions 14, 15 and 16 I will have the full 1250/1250. It's one of those games where you can feel your skill level grow
Always nice to see positive coverage of this underrated sequel, I prefer 2 as well. The fact that dedicated fans (including myself) bought a Xbox One X to play this game really goes to show how incredible this game really is. Ninja gaiden 2 is a one of a kind game from the genre that has aged very well (especially on Xbox One X).
It's out on xbox gamepass and even in 2020 I prefer playing this over DMC5
Well worth the purchase of an Xbox One X to play this game. It looks amazing. Since it hit Game Pass I challenged a colleague to beat chapter 3 on Warrior and he can't. Feels good to be a master ninja
Ninja gaiden 2 is like ninja gaiden:black turned up to 11. Also I thought the pre-patched staircase scene was just perfect! Loved taking on a whole army of ninjasat the same time
NG Black has better boss fights tho.
Hmm, I really enjoyed Ninja Gaiden 2 when it came out. Though I haven’t played it since its release, I never knew so many people disliked it.
Been playing this game again just to relieve some fun times and well surprised to see how well it holds up. So glad to know my memory was correct in remembering this game fondly because it's just such a fun game to play and mess around with. The only real technical issue I remember is just when you're going up those stairs in (I believe chap 12?) and you get swarmed with so many enemies that the frame rate drops. Back when I first experienced that, I thought that gmthe game just couldn't handle me slicing my way through countless enemies and performing combo after combo with different weapons. It was a part of the game I always looked forward to back then. It's gone now with the Xbox One and ngl, a part of is sad for that but the game is still fun and that's all I care about. Great review.
It’s tremendous now it runs at a locked 60 FPS and higher resolution on Series X. The best got better. Really enjoying your content, even the ones from several years back. Subbed
Being a fan of Ninja Gaiden myself I hope we get another game in the series.
Me too!!!
Team ninja is working on a new ng
I hated Ninja Gaiden Black, loved Ninja Gaiden 2, I know I'm in the minority with this but Ninja Gaiden 2 fixed everything I hated about Black. Ninja Gaiden Black felt like it suffered from an identity crisis, I wasn't feeling the combat it just felt dull and lifeless, the only thing that stood out about Black for me was its emphasis on difficulty, everything else was uninspired and bland. Ninja Gaiden 2 on the other hand knew what it wanted to be and stuck with it, they cut out almost all the tedious stuff that black had and refined the combat system to actually make it fun, they made the combat feel more brutal and showy which made things far more satisfying for me, the enemy count also makes things more fun because it makes combat engagements exciting, oblitieration techniques were the biggest change that I loved because it gave me something to strive towards in combat as opposed to just trying to find the most effective technique at dealing damage, I'd actively look for opportunities to delimb enemies to finish them with obliteration techniques, it makes utilizing ryu's moveset more worthwhile as you never have to worry about the enemy's health, only their limbs.
I also think the levels are way better. First level of black is just dumb, you start off in what I'm guessing is a training area and fight your sensei but it doesn't feel exciting to me. Ninja Gaiden 2's first level just throws you straight into the excitement, one of the best first levels ever and has a fantastic atmosphere, it just gets straight to the point. There are many other levels that are fantastic in 2 like the venice level and the temple level, those levels looked stunning, I also likes chapter 4 with the statue of liberty a lot too, so many memorable locations, in Black everything was just brown and grey rooms that were forgettable. Ninja Gaiden 2 took the Onimusha 3 approach by making everything epic which I prefered.
Also the music is better too, more energetic and fits the battles better, having ryu making battle grunts also makes things so much more satisfying, reminding you that there's actually a human being under that mask. It's the little details like the gore, music and sounds that make all the difference. In Black the sound effects are bland and uninteresting.
The weapons are also way cooler too, I get to use a huge ass scythe? Hell yeah, plus the falcon talons are way more fun to use than the lame ass vigoorian flail, which also returns but they improved it.
I also love the way healing works, no longer do I get out of a tough encounter with barely any health left and are forced to consume an item, now I can win a fight by the skin of my teeth and get my health restored which encourages me to keep going since I have a better chance of survival against the next group of enemies than I would if I just had a tiny bit of health.
I mean the game is far from perfect, those mines were annoying in the water, lava and under the snow, were they really necessary? The framerate isn't brilliant either like you said and those twin armadillos were annoying as all hell.
Still, even with its flaws, it's more fun than anything in Black, Black was just a slog for me. Boring as all hell, not to mention frustrating at times. Ninja Gaiden 2 kept me engaged throughout despite any annoying parts it threw my way because the combat was so much fun.
I definitely feel you here! Yes I think the combat in black is really cool, but gaiden 2 takes it to the next level
I think NGB wanted to be the whole package. For that I think it’s why many consider it to be the best. Many users and critics seem to have the general belief it’s an A+ game. For me it’s a perfect balance of action with just a hint of exploration and adventure to spice things up.
I never thought I would hear anyone but me say how cool it was sometimes when the game would go slow mo ESPECIALLY on that huge stair case fight that is a perfect setting for the Eclipse Scythe ultimate technique
I just looked up good reviews for ninja gaiden 2 because I'm tired of people hating on my favorite game
For real! This game is not for those who are going to give up within months. If you can't keep going, it won't let you go through, which is why I think it's so overlooked. 10/10 game, best I've ever played.
yes I love this game, it never gets old!
Just started playing this on Gamepass and am blown away. The sheer depth of combos definitely reminds me a bit of DMC5. Very enjoyable. Thanks.
I need to get a Xbox 1 x soon
I know its a bit late but if you can try the 360 version its miles better
Thank you for this. Its my favorite game ever. Put so many hours in it. Just so much chaos. Now I need an Xbox One X.
Awesome!!! Thanks for checking out the vid!
It's on xbox gamepass now with 4KHD 60fps graphics!
Game is still one the most brutal and awesome action games ever.
With lots of blood right?
Yes!
Exactly what I was looking for. Great video~
Ninja Gaiden 2 was the first game I played in the series on the xbox 360. Love the over the top dismemberment mechanics and gameplay. But I admit I never completed the game cuz I needed to rest my mind and take a break from the over the top action and so many times of dying and trying to beat a level. Never played the Sigma 2 version though I heard its a different game than NG2. After a long break of 13 years its time to pick NG2 up and finish it. Btw love your cool sunglasses.
Hey man, nice video. I discovered your channel thanks to all your shmup videos, but it's nice to see you branch out a little and talk about some other things you're passionate about. I'm not the biggest fan of NG2 myself due to what I would consider to be a lack of polish and balancing issues (I prefer NGB, DMC3/5 and both Bayonettas within the same genre), but it is indeed a fantastic game that unfortunately seems to have fallen under a lot of people's radar. One of a kind.
Keep at it. I would be interested in watching a RE4 video from you one day. :)
Thanks for watching my ninja Gaiden video! I m looking forward to covering some DMC 4 and 5 in the future as well. And also .... HELL YES I 'll do a RE4 video, I just 100% unlocked everything on the switch version, including pro clear. Can t get enough of that game. :-D
@@TheElectricUnderground Well, we may disagree on which NG game is the best, but I think we might be in agreement on RE4! I adore that game as well, bought every copy I could and still play it to this day. It really is a perfect storm of game design in my opinion. One thing I've noticed though is that a lot of people seem to hold the game in high esteem but without really paying much attention to its mechanical intricacies, especially as far as its insanely precise combat system and Mercenaries mode are concerned. Looking forward to your breakdown!
Started playing the first 3d ninja gaiden last night. The gameplay is tight. And the framerate and graphics are insane for the original xbox. Once I beat this I'm going to borrow a 360 to play the 2nd one. Thanks for the recommendation.
The difficulty scares people away
If anyone is familiar with a beer that's at you local ' liquor world' or BevMo, called "Arrogant Bastard" it has a disclaimer on the back of its label. If you dont know about it, research and look it up on google or bing or whatever... but that's what this game should have come with.
I'm not gonna lie, after sekiro dropped, we found out the gaming community has a lot of "Karen's" in it. (My apologies) If some people r offended by that term, maybe "whiny little b*tch" would have been a better phrase.
Ha very true
Idk tbh i like challenging games gives me a reason to test my skills to see if i gotten better as a gamer and to be a better gamer! Even if it does piss me off in the long run lol the satisfaction Of completing it and getting it right is worth it hehe
@@007psyren for me, if I/you could look good playing a notoriously hard game, it grants a bit of ... stature. Its why Taz1 and other guys like him have respect, those "combo mad" vids are epic. And never get old.👍
Man, I love this game, and I fully agree with your analysis. The combat is so visceral and satisfying. One thing people often don't comment about the original NG2 is that even on Master Ninja difficulty, enemies die *fast* (especially with Obliteration), which makes it super satisfying to cut through whole groups of them. I actually bought an Xbox 360 just for this game and it was 100% worth it.
I also agree about Razor's Edge being sort of a miracle upgrade to the vanilla game. Steel on Bone is so fun in RE.
Have you played Vanquish, by any chance? I feel like it'd be right up your alley, with your love for stylish action games and shooters. Great vid
Me too!!! Shame it has been so slept on over the years
I have so many good memories of ninja gaiden 1 and 2. i beat NG 1 on very hard and NG 2 on mentor maybe someday i buy a console and beat NG 2 on master ninja in my mid 40's haha.
these games are truly unique and probably nothing will ever be made like this again.
Yep master ninja is a fun but brutal journey :-)
Sigma 2 Black now exists on PC!! Great video Mark! I hope you cover NG2 again and check out the awesome Black mod for SIgma 2.
Couldn't agree more one of my favorite games ever master ninja was so hard and after 10+ years just started playing again
Yes such a fantastic game, fingers crossed for a pc port someday soon
@@TheElectricUnderground hmm i have pc not sure if it would be more or less difficult i would settle for ninja gaiden 4 but designed just like this game
Best description I have heard of this game: 'If cocaine was a video game, it would be Ninja Gaiden 2'. I love this game!!
Ha for sure!!
Yea I think Gamingbrit said this
Also, correction I almost forgot to point out.
The game was well received by critics upon launch. Ninja Gaiden 2 holds a 81 on metacritic. It was just regarded as inferior to its predecessor. Ninja Gaiden 3 is still the best detested game in the series. Most game journalists are pussies though.
Ng2 on one x is the ideal way to go, no matter how much shit is on the screen it never slows down
agreed!
Honestly, I never made that connection that the limb dismemberment system could have inspired Doom 2016 and maybe even Enternal as well with taking out any weak spots.
:-D
Your video is amazing and yes it plays 60fps locked in Xbox Series X/S and Xbox One S also in 4K!
I just got the xbox1x! Gonna do a vid on it soon!
Speaking as someone who has beaten Dante Must Die in DMC3: SE, and who only quit HOH because it was boring, I'm going to say that Ninja Gaiden has deeper combat. They're both deep, but I give the edge to ninja gaiden. There's a lot of basic, easy shit you can do in DMC3 (short hop divekicks, trickster air dashing) to scrub around with enemies and bosses. The barrier to execution is low unless you only play in Royal Guard style. The closest thing to cheese in Ninja Gaiden (that I'm aware of) is Flying Swallow/throw spam and it barely works even on low difficulty. Enemies are also a lot more restrained in DMC3 compared to Ninja Gaiden 2. They have very obvious tells.
DMC’s depth lies in combo potential and in that regard DMC has 10x the amount of depth Ninja Gaiden has. If all you’ve done is beaten DMD than you haven’t even come close to scratching the surface of what DMCs combat has to offer. I think even the most die hard DMC fans would agree that basic combat against normal enemies in DMC is extremely shallow and that’s why basically no one who’s good at the games cares about it. Ninja Gaiden’s depth lies in fighting basic enemies and the scoring system and in that regard Ninja Gaiden has 10x the amount of depth DMC has, but the combo potential in Ninja Gaiden is basically non-existent. Both games do different things and are deep in different ways, we don’t need to endlessly compare them.
And you can absolutely cheese your way through Master Ninja in all three Ninja Gaiden games, not as easily as in DMC but you can do it. You can grind essence in the first chapter to buy Devil mushrooms and just Ninpo spam your way through NG2 along with Falcon’s Talons >Y and Flying Swallow Izuna Drop, and NG3 has the almighty Graveyard Spin, cold charged UTs, and Steel on Bone. NGB has the least cheese but you can still grind money in chapter 4 to get the UF and use that to destroy everything for the rest of the game along with being able to just rebuy healing items whenever you want. And of course UT chaining makes a lot of fights a breeze to get through especially in NG2 with the Tonfa UT, Lunar 360UT, and Windmill Shuriken UT.
Also, “the barrier to execution is low” is hilarious, DMC has the highest execution barrier of any action game by far.
I wanted to play this game when it came out in 2008 but im kinda glad I waited till now playing on the series x in 2023
Maybe I overvalue it at times, but I really treasured it when DMC1, 3 and 4 did some good platforming or environment ideas. There are obviously bad cases in the series like the underwater boss in the game I won't speak about.
I like my action and won't hate Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae for only being a series of battles in a small arena, but if a series didn't start off being too linear or just a series of Bloody Palace floors, I expect a series to keep it.
Technically, NG started off pretty different on NES sure but its 3D identity seemed to have some interesting filler (first game and Dragon Sword it seems) which I expect to miss as I move into the later games.
I imagine I'll have a decent opinion if combat is still great since DMC5 squandered some combat and environment potential (unless you use mods for the former) and still ended up being my game of the year but I can agree in part with people who don't want NG to become just action.
Best ninja gaiden game ever! We need part 4 with this style, I didn’t like razors edge
I subscribed to you. Nice video
Hey Adrian , what do you think about Muramasa on nintendo wii ? I don t find video about it from you , do you like it ?
Nice vid too😃👍
finished this game dozens of times, but im too scared to do master ninja difficulty
My favourite game as well
Ninja gaiden 1 is my second favourite game
3 is not even on my list
I chose the 360 instead of the ps3 just for this game
I rarely play a game more than once
And in both ninja gaidens I got to complete it lots of times
This is more like a sonic game but a fighting hack and slash style
Have you compared the highest difficulty of Sigma 2 and NG2? I wonder if they streamlined just some difficulty modes? I would love to play this game in its purest form so I ve been wodering if its worth getting Xbox for of if the MAster Collection is sufficient?
I always had the impression that Ninja Gaiden fans and shmup players have a very similar mindset. I never spent that much time with NGB but I immediately felt that there was something really special about this series. NG2 sounds like it's right up my alley!
Yes ng2 is a fantastic game!
when im in the flow of ng2 it very similar to that cathartic meditative feel I get from shmups.@@TheElectricUnderground
The thing that bothers me about NGB is that instead of being rewarded for getting good kills, you are often punished with more enemy spawns that bum rush you out of camera sight.
Yeah you need to develop a sort of a 6th off screen sense for sure ha.
This is one of, if not my overall favorite game of all time. It is imo the pinnacle of the action hack n' slash genre, while I like a lot of games in the genre(DMC, God of War, Force Unleashed II, Bayo1, No More Heroes, etc. etc.) but nothing comes close to the greatness that is NGII. They couldn't even replicate the greatness with Razor's Edge but they came close on the combat* side at least.
I own this game on 360(twice, one copy has a slipcover) PS3(twice, managed to get the Gamestop exclusive CE last year) Vita, and PS4. I only want a last-gen or current Xbox literally just to play vanilla NGII at 4k/60, and I almost bought the Master Collection physically but Sigma 1 and 2 are a bit censored regardless if you get the Asia or JP release..but Razor's Edge isn't censored at all. Makes sense hahaha.
I hope we get an NG4 or reboot someday, I love Nioh and Wo Long but they aren't Ninja Gaiden man..feels like Souls clones have taken over the action hack n' slash genre completely and there hasn't been many since the PS3 era really, other than the odd Bayo, DMC5, re-releases, God of Diablo(why does GoW have cooldowns and RPG lite mechanics that add nothing to the game?) and Onechanbara if that counts.
There was a samurai game announced recently that looks cool, and some other DMC clone that has been in development for god knows how long. They look interesting but they look they'll never release.
This game was hardly misunderstood or underrated. This game as well as the first were insanely popular
Because a lot of people prefer NGB
there's no guarantee on "sheathing" your sword to get a delimb, that is just misinformation. there are certain attacks that delimb nearly everything time like >x and xxy the DS or xxy lunar for a head decap dual sword >xy, 360 y, yyyy. It is somewhat random but it does affect how enemies attack depending on the limb cut off.
guard buffer is not the correct term but you can reverse wind off of a guard break, as it's called in the moves list. guard reset is more advanced as it acts more as a parry where you guard break into another without needing to reverse wind. Also shuriken cancel, OT cancels after >x moves, OL moves into UTS/ETS, essence staggers (which was nerfed/changed in 2), a lot of stuff.
also the NG2 reviews were like 7-8 to 9 at best, they weren't bad but gamespot did give it the "least improved sequel" award.
this was good
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Cool review but can you beat the nes ninja gaiden trilogy?
I ve beaten 1 and 2 ha, it would be cool to beat all three
i want a video of your top ten non shmup games .-
That's a cool idea!!
What? Who are these people who disliked this game? Only fiends do that.
Also, the water parts were the best parts.
Ninja Gaiden 2 has the most iconic frame rate slow down of all time, on those stairs in chaoter 10 i believe, everything goes in to slow motion, you enter the matrix, completely unintentional, but a part of the game i have gone out of my way to replay time and time again, just one of the many "charming" characteristics of the series
Edit: well done sir ahahaha
Glad that issue no longer exists on Series X.
I like NG2 but NG is way better and more fluent I feel like NG2 is a tad bit too fast if that makes sense. And NG2 is a little too easy and the enemies rely too much on cheap grabs plus the camera angles are a bit shitty sometimes but it’s still a great game. The first one is more fluent and wayyy harder but fair if you know how to properly play it.
I agree. However Ninja gaiden sigma 2 fixes most of those issues. Not as gory but IMO it is the hands down the best version. Excellent frame rate, poor bosses removed, added weapons and better pacing of combat.
It was hard for me to adjust to NG2 after playing NGS and NGB over and over again. It took my alot of time to get used to the offensiveness the game demands, if you try to play like NG1 you're gonna get creamed and I've come to appreciate that in my current Master Ninja run.
Can’t decide which is worse, cat fiends in NGB or Ninja dogs in NG2.
Enter the Fun Zone
Chess!
You should do a video on Razors edge, for all its flaws the core combat in that game is insanely good
Greatest fighting game ever made.
I personally like the Sigma version more. The enemy count in the base game just felt obnoxious to me at times, and I really didn't like a couple of the bosses. Sigma has its own faults but it felt a bit smoother overall to me.
I'm not great a video games and the hero mode makes it really fun and accessible. Normally I'm a strictly Schump man but since getting an Xbox S I love NG2, have been waking up 2 hrs earlier just to get on it. Can anybody recommend similar games that are not too hard?
Ninja gaiden 3 razors edge
I feel like anyone who likes this genre of game is doing themselves a disservice by not checking out Ninja Gaiden 2, regardless of the ranking they would theoretically place it in. The only word of warning would be that Ninja Gaiden series (well, at least the first 2) is probably the hardest of the genre so choose your difficulty accordingly.
Hell yeah this game is dope. The only action game above it for me is DMC 3.
The only game where getting consistently hit does not feel bullshit for me, it feels like part of the game's core design.
I am so happy that they release it on PC, I would have never played it otherwise. Yeah, the port is shit but I am more about games and experience good games. I can handle shitty, lazy port. Not that everyone should but I love this kind of pure gaming experience too much to miss out.
Yeah I felt like the pc ports were solid, they ran well and that's all I was really hoping for ha
I’d say two was easier than one and three easier than two but yeah it’s a great series and my personal favorite
I really like NG2 it improved combat significantly, but I still think NGB was the real masterpiece.
I played the sigma version years ago, i really want to try the original version of Ninja Gaiden 2. Which is why the master collection was such a let down.
It is very crazy I will say that. It’s has many pros like more bloody and more enemies but many cons as well. So IMO it balances out to about the same overall rating as sigma
Playing on xboxonex fucking amazing 😎
Okay how does it compare to the Sigma version?
sigma is easier and has lower enemy counts, but has some fun bonus content like extra bosses and weapons (emma's fang is really cool). Overall the 360 version is definitely the better version, but I do wish we could get a remix that also included the extra sigma content and weapons.
Razors edge is so underrated
Absolutely! I'm going to do a video on it soon.
@@TheElectricUnderground oh hell yeah, I'll keep my eyes peeled out for it
I don't really enjoy the dissmemberment system in this game. The way it works is that light attacks are more likely to take an enemy's arm or leg than a heavy attack. There are more points to it, but it railroads combat as ignoring it can make fights take forever and, in some cases, nearly impossible because a lot of enemies have super armor (unlikely to be staggered by an attack), are really fast, and fight in packs of other enemies of the same type. Your comparison of the dissmemberment system to Doom's glory kill system, though understandable, is flawed. The glotry kill is like decapitation in NGB, where it only appears when the enemy is low on health to the point where theirs almost dead, or in the case of NGB, happens when you use a specific attack that would've killed the enemy even without the decapitation system. NG2 on the other hand has it where you can, either A: use a number of attacks to kill the enemy normally, or B: use just a few light attacks that takes off a limb, and immediately use a heavy attack to kill an enemy when it still has about half health. Otherwise your arguments are more than fine. The only other problem is that base Xbox One runs the game perfectly. I don't want to come off as a jerk who wants to ruin the game for you and you should enjoy NG2 because it's a good game. I just wanted to clear up a mistake that bothered the h÷)) out of me.
7:11 It actually was based on the Brutal Doom Mod, which introduced the glory kills system, I highly doubt they took it from Ninja Gaiden 2, beacause you can execute the enemies in modern Doom without having to dissmember them, you just do enough damage and the put them out of their misery
9:33 Of course you can spam charged attacks in 2 in almost every section of the game, that's how the no damage runs have been done, if you miss some orbs to chain, it starts to get difficult and have to create some oportunitty to survive.
I still feel that Black is better overall for higher difficulties, but yes II is amazing in its own right. I honestly prefer playing more defensive in these kinds of games. I wish Gaiden II added memorable new bosses in Mentor and Master, like Ishtaros and the clone fights. I also wish there was less of the projectile spam in higher difficulties. I mean sure you can argue that you have to tools to give you i-frames to avoid the damage from the explosions, but I feel that the frequency with which you are spammed forces you to abuse these tools far too much, making the game more repetitive than some, perhaps overzealous, fans would like to let on. The thing is, how much you will enjoy Ninja Gaiden II on Mentor and Master Ninja mode depends on whether you appreciate aspects such as the limb dismemberment system and UT abuse (yes you can do this as well in Gaiden Black, but you aren't forced too - key difference). I personally do not like the dismemberment/OT system that was added in Gaiden II, so I gravitate more towards Black.
I really like to use my full combos in combat. I do not like having to wait until I only have one enemy to use these. In Gaiden II you just keep getting interrupted cause you have to press Y to avoid an explosion. You never get to finish your combo until you have only one enemy left, and I personally dislike this. I don't play Ninja Gaiden to wait to enjoy the game, I like having more control over the fight, ya know. I also liked the Golden Scarab collectables and rewards in Black. The skulls in Gaiden 2 I felt were a major step down, cause they did not bring a significant impact to the game. I like my Dark Dragon Blade and Kitetsu, okay? Just putting my opinion out there.
In ur opinion which franchise is more difficult? The soul series or ng?
Master ninja difficulty is absolutely insane, so top end NG. But a standard play through of souls is probably close to normal difficulty
THIS GAME IS SO GODLIKE THAT IT LITERALLY RUINED ACTION GAMES FOR ME!
No Cap
Exactly, can't look at dynasty warriors or stuff like that anymore
I've played all 3 games and i still have no idea what you're talking about. I never get technical with these or any other action games. I just hit, block, counter and dodge.
Did someone say favorite game? Dark stalkers 3 lives forever
I will admit I’ve raged at this game but what game doesn’t have moments that piss a player off!? Overall this game is more addictive than any game I’ve ever played and that’s saying a lot. I can confidently say Ninja Gaiden 2 is my favorite game of all time!
It s really up there for me too! For sure my fav 3d game :-)
Oh yeah, a lot of people prefer NG1 or NGB over II but imo the combat is *so* much better in II that I just can't agree with those people. NGB does still feel good to play, but to me it feels a lot like Onimusha in a way. I do prefer Razor's Edge over 1 as well, purely for the combat.
Also people complaining about the Metroidvania style level design compared to the more linear style in 2 and 3 bugged me too. Can't say I cared about getting stuck or progressing through some of the areas in older DMC games and NG1. I don't think it adds much to these types of games, like how much backtracking did you do in that damn tower in DMC3? Hahaha.
On combat they are better. But you have to consider other aspects it definitely is better in. For example it has some of the best environments in NGB. Ice cavers, aqueducts, volcanos etc. Some of the most rememberable bosses as well. That combined with its semi exploration provides a very completed experience.
It’s just an overall more polished completed game why is why it the game with the highest reviews.
Can we all agree that the purple demons are bullshit lol :)
we can!
The combat, in most encounters, does put a smile on my face, however, compared to the first game, it feels rushed. I respect your opinion, but to me, the first game feels more balanced and complete. NG2 is by no means a bad game, but if I were to assign ratings to 1 and 2, I’d give 1 a 9.5 and 2 an 8.5. While the first game has largely uninspired bosses, 2 has that, and some that are just straight bs (looking at you, chapter 3 boss).
But dude it’s awesome it’s your favorite. They are all good.. well NG3 has its flaws but still
NG2 doesn’t get as much love cause it’s just not as polished as black. Black is a very different style of game, it’s not as fast and it’s more about going on and off on defense while 2 is about non stop aggression
Itagaki even admitted that 2 didn’t get the dev time it needed
Yeah black was more polished and you can tell. NGS2 def feels more polished
It runs fine plus its x enhanced
Check. Out dfoundrys vid
Overall, I think Ninja Gaiden 2 has some of the best combat mechanics in the genre. But sadly everything surrounding that is really poorly done. Most of the bosses aside from Genshin are terrible, it relies too much on you having to rely on invincibiltiy frames/spamming ultimate techniques to negate the poorly designed enemies, there's a lot of glitches and bugs (thankfully most are patched now).
The enemy encounter design feels extremely cheap sometimes, you'll have gatling rocket ninjas constantly spamming stupidly accurate rockets at point blank range, not to mention the IS ninjas. Im fine with you having to be more aggresive in combat, but not because of unfair enemies.
I think if this game had another year in development it could have been amazing, but it kinda of feels like a beta imo. It kind of reminds me of DMC4 somewhat.
Ninja Gaiden 2 is the best 3rd person game to exist
I also really liked some of the combat in ng3 re
Yeah for sure!!! Ng3 re is solid, not as good as ng2 but has some real great moments (kasumi is also cool!)
I think NGB is the best game just because it is an over all rounder. And is accompanied by some of the best environments and rememberable bosses. I think however NG2 does get too much hate. It is very close to NGB because although it does have some flaws, such as poor story, extremely linear design. The combat is absolute perfection..
I give NGB a 9.5 and NG2 a 9
Bruh you dont even need a long drawn out explanation about why this is one of the greatest games ever. You gotta play it to know the feel . If you know you know. NG3 xbox360 is GOATED. And its not Debatable
Ninja Gaiden 2 is an excellent game, but Ninja Gaiden Black is still superior. Black had better bosses, more balanced difficulty, better music, and stronger level design. Some of the bosses in Ninja Gaiden 2 were straight up awful, like Gigadeath and Water Dragon. Also, fuck the motor rocket ninjas.
Terrible opinion
The campaign has some low points, but the raw combat itself is unsurpassed to this day. How did they get the remaster so wrong?
I think that when compared between the 2 games, NG1 gave you more of a break between the fights and all the glorious brutal action with the platforming and the non linear level layouts and exploration. Which in NG2 it's non stop and after playing it for a long hours, it gets a bit too much to the point when it's Bleh!, kinda like having too much of a food you like e.g. corn and cheese, it so rich and you feel sick afterwards. Also agree with the jungle stage, chapter 9 I believe, it's freaking annoying with the rocket spam. I also started with 2 but after finishing 1, I found myself playing 1 a lot more often and revisit 2 every so often. 3 at least Razors edge which I've played has good combat but campaign freaking sucks, unmemorable combos, ugly level designs, terrible bosses and awful and stupid characters and story. After Igataki left, the series is truly gone.
Combat is definitely better in 2 but almost every level is just a long hallway and it overstays its welcome at the end In my opinion. Also I’d say bosses are a bit beefier in NG black. They get melted even on master in NG2.
the thing about the game design of ng1 vs ng2 is that I actually vastly prefer the level design of ng2. Now, I do know that most mainstream critics will say ng1 level design is better because it has more variety with being open worldish and having platforming sections and playing a bit more like legend of zelda. However, for me I feel like the point of the ng series is the combat and that the other aspects of ng1 feel like boring filler to me, especially the stupid water sections. So while ng2's level design is much more linear and straightforward, I would say that's actually a huge improvement over aimlessly wandering around in ng1. I made a vid abou this concept actually, as it appears in shmups: ruclips.net/video/9Ew5hEMSzEw/видео.html