And what happens to these umpires who blow calls like Angel Hernandez? MLB seems to be good at handing down suspensions to players but there are times that umpires need to stop being protected by MLB.
Only case I can think of, was the Pete Rose/Dave Pallone incident in 1988. At a game in Cincinnati, on a ground ball Pallone delayed calling the batter safe at first, as a result a run scored and denied the reds a chance to even try to throw it home. Rose stormed off the bench he and Pallone got in each other's faces, next thing you know, Rose shoved him and got ejected. Fans were furious throwing things on the field causing a 15 minute delay. The league decided to remove Pallone from the game for his own safety. Rose claimed Pallone poked him but there's no evidence of that. Rose got a 30 day suspension, at the end of the season Pallone was fired. But he later sued, claiming he was fired because of his sexuality and the Pete Rose incident was just an excuse and because of an article claiming he was involved in a sex ring involving underage boys (that was later proven to be false) and he got a big settlement.
Cubs are the worst franchise in baseball for arguing correct calls lol. When Joe Maddon coached there he would complain almost nightly ...and the funny thing is that he would get the benefit of the doubt most of the game!
Pallone got fired by the end of the season too, but he sued claiming it was just an excuse as they really wanted to fire him because of his sexuality. He ended up getting a big settlement for that.
Is that honestly your read of that situation? Does Rojas pushing Valentine into the ump twice mean nothing to you? If I was Bobby I woulda suspended Cookie myself for that dumb shit.
@@robertbruce6865 Dont you think its like that for a reason? like maybe if a player/manager were just running around being an ass like usual, the umps partner needs to come in and restrain him. Its pretty simple why umps are above the rest of the field
Why is it ok for umpires to touch players and push them away but not the other way around? I don’t believe that players SHOULD be allowed to touch umps, but it should work both ways as well.
Redicules. I've NEVER seen an ump get into a players face & put his hands on them. You didn't here either. You saw a player getting into an umps face. He has the right to defend his space.
@@peach495 Earth to Frankie, “redicules” is NOT a word, but thanks for revealing your low IQ. It’s helpful to know because then I know to ignore whatever you say. And if you didn’t see the umpire touch the player, you are in desperate need of an eye exam. Now, stop being “redicules”!!!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@@peach495 Earth to Frankie, “redicules” is NOT a word, and if you couldn’t see the ump touch the player then you should get a white cane with a red tip and possibly consider a seeing eye dog. 🧑🏻🦯🦮 And please, stop being “redicules”!!!🤣
As a Cubs fan I appreciated Zambrano as a good pitcher and hitter (for a pitcher), but always thought he tended to act like a child in the last few years with the club. His antics eventually got him put on the restricted list and pretty much ended his tenure in Chicago. Cheers....
It's comical how people get over-aggressive toward someone else when they're being held back and there's zero chance there will actually be a physical altercation.
Those last two pitches to Brett Lawrie that were called strikes were no where near the zone. Bill Miller was much deserving of the helmet getting bounced off him.
The ironic part of Carlos Zambrano getting ejected was had the runner Nyjer Morgan been called out he would’ve likely been the one ejected and gone into a tirade. Both players involved were definitely hot headed.
Increíble el nivel de profesionalismo de los jugadores en el MLB, en el llano más de uno de los umpires hubiera terminado con una buena golpiza encima. Hacen (algunos) un pésimo trabajo y todavía "se sorprenden" de que los jugadores de molesten. Y después, a la fácil, expulsión y me quito el problema. Para que además el estúpido del comisionado de Grandes Ligas salga a decir que estos tipos van a seguir "trabajando" porque no le da la gana de darle paso a la tecnología, ¡siendo que urge desde hace tiempo!
The first incident was very close. Close enough where a batter shouldn't let it go. Close enough for the ump to call it a strike. If it was not for the strike zone showing on the screen it would have been a strike all day long. I miss the past baseball games when none of this electronic shit was around, and it was just a game. Players were players. They played for the love of the game. Not like today where they are all millionaires and big crybabies. Sorry coach can't play today I chipped the nail polish on my index finger. Screw baseball. Can't speak Spanish anyway.
Baseball is human. The greatness and the inferior. However we do have the tech to improve calls. Time to change the rules. No shame in making the game as accurate as possible.
Who determines what a bad call is? Would an umpire be punished because he didn’t see a player getting tagged .0005 seconds before touching the base which can only be seen with slow motion?
I agree that players and coaches shouldn't be able to aggressively touch the referee, but the same should be true for the refs that they can't aggressively touch the players/coaches either.
Why are the umpires not being suspended Edit: I guess I have to make this edit because I'm getting a LOT of ignorant comments from under educated people. Yes, I am an umpire, myself.
These umpires and refs need to be also disciplined for making too many bad calls, this is viewable, TV shows they make bad calls and sometimes it because a player may disagree able the call and a lot of times this happens in all sports, they should be held accountable for their performance.
Antonio Alfonseca got the worst for steamrolling Justin Klemm. Suspended 8 games and heavily fined. After Moises Alou was tossed for spitting on an ump after flinging his shin guard
Eject the bad umpires that ruin the game for the players and have the backup umpire take the plate. Fans may like the fire it starts from time to time but players shouldn't have to put through this stress/emotion.
If you can prove it was deliberate, and If arguing with the umpire for any reason is an automatic ejection plus suspension of at least 5 games for players, sure
Why cant these conversations be mic'd up? I can understand not playing the audio live due to swearing, but they could bleep out the swear words and play it for us later.
Baseball is such a weird sport. You can spit, push scream, and kick dirt on an official with nobody thinking about it. One little bat flip, and everyone loses their mind.
Sometimes I want to see a team or teams play a game like it was "The Longest Yard". Wild pitch/throw in the direction of an ump. A simple, "hey, how about calling a clean game?"
Because players never disagree when the umpire's correct, right? No-one would ever try to throw at an umpire who makes a correct call that's against their team even if they think otherwise, right?
Umpires and football refs should have a press conference after the game to get questions about there bullshit calls to attempt to justify them.
That’s right exactly!!!
I’ve been saying the same thing.
With all the FanDuel/DraftKings money out there it is just a matter of time before there is a huge gambling scandal concerning refs/umps.
Accountability? From americans? Lmfao 😂
Fuck the unions for defending mediocrity.
The first one’s hilarious….his coach was like….”hey, step back that’s my job to get into kissing range and yell at the umpire.” 😂😂😂
And what happens to these umpires who blow calls like Angel Hernandez? MLB seems to be good at handing down suspensions to players but there are times that umpires need to stop being protected by MLB.
Yeah, MLB is quick to pounce on the players but fainting goats when it comes to umpires.
Only case I can think of, was the Pete Rose/Dave Pallone incident in 1988. At a game in Cincinnati, on a ground ball Pallone delayed calling the batter safe at first, as a result a run scored and denied the reds a chance to even try to throw it home. Rose stormed off the bench he and Pallone got in each other's faces, next thing you know, Rose shoved him and got ejected. Fans were furious throwing things on the field causing a 15 minute delay. The league decided to remove Pallone from the game for his own safety. Rose claimed Pallone poked him but there's no evidence of that. Rose got a 30 day suspension, at the end of the season Pallone was fired. But he later sued, claiming he was fired because of his sexuality and the Pete Rose incident was just an excuse and because of an article claiming he was involved in a sex ring involving underage boys (that was later proven to be false) and he got a big settlement.
Excellent comment from someone who is perfect in every way, shape and form.
@@markmalasics3413 what a dumb take. Angel Hernandez, is that you? How sad of a take that is.
@@markmalasics3413 Another umpire apologist...
The way Cookie Rojas argued is like a silent movie, perfect with the organ being played as well!
Last play was correct. The runner's left hand touched home plate before the tag.
Yeah
Cubs are the worst franchise in baseball for arguing correct calls lol. When Joe Maddon coached there he would complain almost nightly ...and the funny thing is that he would get the benefit of the doubt most of the game!
💯💯💯👏👏👏!!!!!
You missed one of the longest suspensions from an ejection: Pete Rose vs Dave Pallone. 30 days.
Pallone got fired by the end of the season too, but he sued claiming it was just an excuse as they really wanted to fire him because of his sexuality. He ended up getting a big settlement for that.
That is the one I was looking for, I was actually at that game.
Not to mention Rose's eventual lifetime ban from baseball. Rose deserved it in my opinion.
I love Zambrano 😂 "You have to be thrown out, you!"
The ump pushes Cookie first and Cookie gets suspended for responding in kind, what a joke
You’re not allowed to put hands on an ump, but they’re allowed to go hands on with a player. It’s a fucking joke.
I was about to say the same thing. They give umps the power that the police have. They can do whatever they want and you cant do shit. Pathetic.
Is that honestly your read of that situation? Does Rojas pushing Valentine into the ump twice mean nothing to you? If I was Bobby I woulda suspended Cookie myself for that dumb shit.
No, "comfy-couch-ump", you're a joke.....
@@robertbruce6865 Dont you think its like that for a reason? like maybe if a player/manager were just running around being an ass like usual, the umps partner needs to come in and restrain him. Its pretty simple why umps are above the rest of the field
I went to a MLB umpire camp and the instructors are umpires in the MLB and they told us that the umps do get fined for missapplying a rule.
Why is it ok for umpires to touch players and push them away but not the other way around?
I don’t believe that players SHOULD be allowed to touch umps, but it should work both ways as well.
That’s what I was thinking as well, umps should get kicked out too🤷♀️
Redicules. I've NEVER seen an ump get into a players face & put his hands on them. You didn't here either. You saw a player getting into an umps face. He has the right to defend his space.
@@peach495
Earth to Frankie, “redicules” is NOT a word, but thanks for revealing your low IQ. It’s helpful to know because then I know to ignore whatever you say.
And if you didn’t see the umpire touch the player, you are in desperate need of an eye exam.
Now, stop being “redicules”!!!!!
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@@peach495
Earth to Frankie, “redicules” is NOT a word, and if you couldn’t see the ump touch the player then you should get a white cane with a red tip and possibly consider a seeing eye dog. 🧑🏻🦯🦮
And please, stop being “redicules”!!!🤣
@@Paladin70
I saw the ump dumbass. As I said, And I'll talk real slow for you this time. That player got into HIS face.
As a Cubs fan I appreciated Zambrano as a good pitcher and hitter (for a pitcher), but always thought he tended to act like a child in the last few years with the club. His antics eventually got him put on the restricted list and pretty much ended his tenure in Chicago. Cheers....
It's comical how people get over-aggressive toward someone else when they're being held back and there's zero chance there will actually be a physical altercation.
Votto has always been a soft guy acting tough.
Pirate got his left hand in there for safe at home. What a play
Those last two pitches to Brett Lawrie that were called strikes were no where near the zone. Bill Miller was much deserving of the helmet getting bounced off him.
he was deserving of it making contact with his face
With all of the bats laying around it’s a wonder that some umpires don’t wind up with a headache
What happens if robots make bad calls because some players will still complain and machines are not perfect either?
5:14 bro had to destroy the soda dispenser with a bat lol
@ 3:33. That ball appeared to be in. Did any replays show differently?
Don't forget the Jose Ramiez and Tim Anderson fight there was sussposions in those ejections
the funny part about the last one is he was definitely safe lmao
4:31⏬
これは現在既に導入しているコリジョンルールかしら？
Do players and managers getting pissed off
The ironic part of Carlos Zambrano getting ejected was had the runner Nyjer Morgan been called out he would’ve likely been the one ejected and gone into a tirade. Both players involved were definitely hot headed.
Only a casual baseball fan, braves fan, and have never seen Votto like that wow
'Never seen 'Yotto this upset'... as I find numerous examples on YT of Yotto being that upset... 😆😆😆
Pitch went right around the plate.
Increíble el nivel de profesionalismo de los jugadores en el MLB, en el llano más de uno de los umpires hubiera terminado con una buena golpiza encima. Hacen (algunos) un pésimo trabajo y todavía "se sorprenden" de que los jugadores de molesten. Y después, a la fácil, expulsión y me quito el problema. Para que además el estúpido del comisionado de Grandes Ligas salga a decir que estos tipos van a seguir "trabajando" porque no le da la gana de darle paso a la tecnología, ¡siendo que urge desde hace tiempo!
The funniest part of all of this is the umpires made the wrong call every time 🤣 all the players initial frustration is justifiable
Actually not, the umps got some of them right. The didn’t show the Cookie Rojas replay but it was actually foul and the correct call.
The first incident was very close. Close enough where a batter shouldn't let it go. Close enough for the ump to call it a strike. If it was not for the strike zone showing on the screen it would have been a strike all day long. I miss the past baseball games when none of this electronic shit was around, and it was just a game. Players were players. They played for the love of the game. Not like today where they are all millionaires and big crybabies. Sorry coach can't play today I chipped the nail polish on my index finger. Screw baseball. Can't speak Spanish anyway.
Exactly
On the last one, the left hand gets to the plate before he tags him.
Tim Anderson was mad at a fair strike call
If you do make a Part 2 to this, Theriot would likely be a good entry
Ah, yes - the riot! Cheers....
Many of the bad calls are outside, because umpires set up on the inside part of the plate, and have to "guess" away.
I can’t believe an ump has not been laid out yet.
It looks like they need a good A$$ kicking!!!
they have, just making it look like part of the game
@@swagmuffin9000 no I mean full ko , stiff as a board snoring laid out. Angel Hernandez comes to mind as a good candidate
@@codykramer6382 lol ok, yea hasn't happened
Wow. Over a baseball call? Have we lost our fucking minds?
That last one at home plate,he was safe! Good called ump!
Funny, but Marmol did get that last guy!!
hurling your helmut at the ump like that takes noogas, lol
mlb players argue balls and strikes more than pregnant baby mamas and their boyfriends 😂😂😂
Umpires need to be fined and suspended when their strike zone is inconsistent also
If a batter gets ejected while still at bat, does that count as an out?
Tori is the Antonio Brown of the MLB
Lawrie didn't deserve that suspension. That umpire is a clown
Baseball is human. The greatness and the inferior. However we do have the tech to improve calls. Time to change the rules. No shame in making the game as accurate as possible.
RIP (Rest In Peace) (#/25/NL/Charlie Williams)
That’s why I could never be a manager or coach! I would get tossed every game! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
That's the reason? Geeze. What a waste of talent not having you up in the bigs managing.
@@chetarmlin1196 i know right! 😆😆😆 I just have no patience with bad calls! 🤣🤣🤣
My thing is who gets into an argument with someone who has a bat in their hand lol
You have a bat…use it.
Buen llamado
4:46
Wait I got one too you're ejected
Men getting kicked out of kids game ,
They can't even PLAY well with others !
I think this year all umpires should be thrown out of the game for bad calls and be suspended for 3 to 5 games
So true !
if i remember there is a review of umps now but what the penalty is i dont know. and yea they use that baseball tracker too.
Yeah, they touch and shove the players too don’t they?
Who determines what a bad call is? Would an umpire be punished because he didn’t see a player getting tagged .0005 seconds before touching the base which can only be seen with slow motion?
As if the baseball world cares what "you think."
Cant wait for the bot replacement😅😅
They need DRS like in cricket
What’s a DRS?
Don't blame him. Umpire needs to become baseline ump.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED ROBOT UPPIRES
Umpires are destroying the game
F these umpires
A problem is the stupid ass TV box for the strike zone. It’s not correct. The pitches to Votto and Hunter were really close.
A few of those calls were just fine.
In the game between the Mets and the Blue Jays it was a foul ball
You mean Mets and Diamondbacks?
@@jefftickleschitz1265 yes
technology could solve all the MISTAKES the umpires and refs have made and will continue to do so..
I firmly believe umpires are actively trying to work themselves out of a job and let RoboUmps take over.
How so? Because of six plays in this video? You do know that umpires have gotten steadily better over years too right? Look up the stats
@@Trumpetjoe40 Well... This video and the, like, 100 others I have seen showing umps missing calls.
We can only hope
Umpires need to be held accountable!
I agree that players and coaches shouldn't be able to aggressively touch the referee, but the same should be true for the refs that they can't aggressively touch the players/coaches either.
I understand the rule of not touching an umpire, but I want to see that reciprocated. Umpires should not be allowed to touch players at all
Paul Molitor is not managerial material
Why are the umpires not being suspended
Edit: I guess I have to make this edit because I'm getting a LOT of ignorant comments from under educated people. Yes, I am an umpire, myself.
The umpire Union, that's why we can't get rid of angel
@@markschultz1790 huh is that so
@@cheff.marshal2496unfortunately yes.
Union. If anyone is ever anti-union, show them MLB umpires and how they still get the big bucks even if they aren't the best available at their jobs
It's because their paid off !
last one the runner at home was safe. His left hand was on the plate when the picture taged him on his right arm
Regardless of the sport you can't go shoving the officials or throwing things at them no matter how upset at a call you are.
Let’s get an Octagon and settle it 😅
These umpires and refs need to be also disciplined for making too many bad calls, this is viewable, TV shows they make bad calls and sometimes it because a player may disagree able the call and a lot of times this happens in all sports, they should be held accountable for their performance.
Maniacs !
When is Major League Baseball going hold these or most of these umpires accountable?
Antonio Alfonseca got the worst for steamrolling Justin Klemm. Suspended 8 games and heavily fined. After Moises Alou was tossed for spitting on an ump after flinging his shin guard
That umpire who called a strike on the high ball needs to go see an eye doctor cuz I understand the batter’s frustration
Why cane the manager suspend ther player insted of the mlb centralt
Managers should be able to challenge some calls that are obviously bad & unfair to the batters
And people say the games aren't fixed.
Bad cops, bad umpires, bad drivers …
I wonder what they have in common
Can someone please tell me what throwing your own uniform parts on the field would accomplish in a situation like this. Kinda stupid
Watch this to remenber thy I dont !
Umpires should be forced to answer questions on their terrible calls
The robots will put a stop to this nonsense.
Maybe one day.
Awww....all of our calls don't go James way....huh.
No it won’t, but keep living in your fantasy land
If MLB would take no touch protections off of umpires, those would instantly get better at their jobs or have constant black eyes.
“If players were allowed to assault officials things would be better”
Eject the bad umpires that ruin the game for the players and have the backup umpire take the plate. Fans may like the fire it starts from time to time but players shouldn't have to put through this stress/emotion.
Charlie Williams was Angel Hernandez before Angel Hernandez was Angel Hernandez.
He makes Hernandez look like Doug Harvey.
He pushed Rojas first.
Big Boys cry 😢 Babies get over it
How about suspending the sorry UMP's for deliberately screwing up calls?
If you can prove it was deliberate, and If arguing with the umpire for any reason is an automatic ejection plus suspension of at least 5 games for players, sure
You assume too much
Joey needs to take a chill pill.
Shark attacks on the poor ump's...
Why cant these conversations be mic'd up? I can understand not playing the audio live due to swearing, but they could bleep out the swear words and play it for us later.
To me these MLB refs often look very arrogant.
There needs to be more suspensions of umps.
Baseball is such a weird sport. You can spit, push scream, and kick dirt on an official with nobody thinking about it. One little bat flip, and everyone loses their mind.
Sometimes I want to see a team or teams play a game like it was "The Longest Yard". Wild pitch/throw in the direction of an ump. A simple, "hey, how about calling a clean game?"
Because players never disagree when the umpire's correct, right? No-one would ever try to throw at an umpire who makes a correct call that's against their team even if they think otherwise, right?
Brett Lawrie got screwed. He didn’t deserve that at all
Most dangerous weapon according to an umpire : The bill of a batting helmet.
Throwing temper tantrums, big babies
one of the jobs that shouild be replaced by AI. Lawyer. umpires,bankers
Start allowing players to get physical with the umpires. There needs to be some checks against bad umpires.
We don't need umps in baseball anymore. Stat tracker should put those bums outta work.
LOL Cookie got pushed by the Ump first. I remember that game, what a Joke that crew was
Bad umpires are killing the game