We are super happy u guys decided to keep making videos! We live at about 2200 elevation, so I've used all your info in figuring out how to plant out our food forest. We much appreciate your passing on what you've learned.
That's amazing. There'sso much to learn here. The weed trimmer does a great job with the cleaning. I love your channel been watching when you guys got the land a few years ago. It would be helpful to your channel to also make some shorts vids it will help putting your videos out there and with the numbers. All the best. I'm looking forward to you guys next video
1- 0:23 ´repare fertilizer 2- 1:06 clear weeds whit trimmer 3- 1:39 weed around target species by hand 4- 3:06 spread fertilizer mix 5- 3:40 chop & drop
You can weedwack mexi sunflower if the stem is green, could potentially speed up the chopping n dropping process. Can also get rhizobia at garden exchange and innoculate the soil so the nitrogen fixers are more productive.
Great video. You have a beautiful project, which I say with a like mind. I have a 70 hectare regenerative syntropic agroforestry system. I'm going a bit more jungly here, in terms of introducing orderly but very regular canopy crops. Lots of eritrinas, ingas, tabibueyas, acacias, and loads of mid story fixers like poinciana and jacaranda, and layering in cacao and coffee to fully stratify vertical space. Extra long and sturdy elescopic pruners are essential, but leaving tall shade really ups your game in terms of the quantity of biomass and N fixing and general soil biota. As you say, the tropics swollows up biomass so fast. But with the right density, you can build absurd depths of humus. Some of the denser cloud forrests on the property are meters deep in it.
Also, I recommend birds foot trefoil as a supplement or replacement to the fodder peanut. it does just as well if not better in shade but doesn't bind around tree roots so much. The fodder peanut is great, but once it reaches a lawn like density it can have a choking effect as the roots form a thick mass, and be really hard to keep clear of the "plate" of tree trunks without damaging feeder roots. Some trees, like guavas, being exotropic, don't care, but others find it a bit hard to breath unless your basically digging the stuff up regularly.
Thank you for sharing some details about your project! Sounds amazing! There are definitely things I would do differently next time but over time I plan on correcting my mistakes on this system. This is why I started small here. I knew the odds of me getting it perfect first try were slim lol.
Thanks for the great video! I am just getting started in Syntropic Agroforestry, but from what I had understood the idea is that after getting the system started you actually DONT need to add fertiliser, since the support species do the job? I thought that was the main difference in contrast to a food forest setup where you need externally added fertility for years, till the system is stable.
Great question! Because I skipped the placenta stage and put my grafted trees in straight away it is a good idea to enrich the soil. I think from a purist standpoint you would go through an accumulation phase where you would use grasses or something like pigeon pea for some time to do the work for you.
@@OffGridHawaii Thanks for the reply :) This means the fertiliser is just added to get the system started, and after that its not needed anymore? I guess it depends on the system, but in general you still want to avoid adding external fertilizer longterm?
@@jjfilmsandculture Fertilizer or some sort of input made be needed in the first few years in this context as his soil was most likely not ready to support that level of life. There is more to it than just "skipping the placenta stage", as the placenta stage is just the beginning of a new cycle. If the soil can't support higher succession species, then an earlier stage placenta is required, such as grasses, different shrubs, earlier succession trees, etc. The specific species depends on climate, but all the principles remain the same. To address your initial question, yes, the idea of Syntropics is to not rely on any external inputs. If you were truly wanting to learn how to read and develop your system in alignment with the natural succession of nature, then using no external inputs, except seeds and knowledge is the way to go. Hope this helps :)
We have sandy soil. We have a food forest and never ever heard of adding fertiliser. Seems a joke to me. We just plant trees and the system comes good. All this extra work seems stupid to me. I run acres by myself. Contrary to all the crap, it’s so easy. Plant, use your brain and after a few years it’s self sustainable.
My game changing tool is a battery powered hedge trimmer. Slices through weeds and makes chop and drop almost effortless. I spend a whole lot less time cutting stuff up. Lay it up around the stuff you want to feed and done cutting up not really needed.
Nice, just saw this on recommended content. I'm next to Mount Kenya in East Africa, smack on the equator at 7000 ft elevation. Doing more and more syntropic here
@@OffGridHawaii Dragonfruits and avocado are a big cash crop here, but we are more engaged in growing a full diet and community project. I'm trying to grow more jackfruit and soursop as there aren't many in this region, the diet has become very basic here and need to broaden the fruits
Your videos are so inspiring, and your work has really taught us a lot. Not sure if this is the right place to contact you but we want to know if you're being affected by this annonaceae issue with your rollinias? Ours are looking poorly and reports of a widespread die-off are growing :-( Can you update us on yours and anything you're doing to help them?
This is a perfect place to ask 😉. Ours have definitely seen better days. Before hearing about the issues people are having I just figured the extended rainy season we had washed out more nutrients then normal. We’ve seen it for a few years now but this year seems the worst with most trees affected (small yellowing leaves, curling, and leaf hoppers). I have been foliar feeding with epsom salt, liquid calcium, and liquid kelp. It seems to be helping a little but I only started about a month ago. We also though some ag lime down around all of our trees. What are the symptoms you are seeing?
@@OffGridHawaii Lots of just plain leaf loss; branches are kind of denuded and the leaves have some browning (not so much curling), they're yellowish and just don't look happy. One tree gave us three yummy fruit but by the time they ripened they were just hanging there like xmas tree ornaments and no leaves :-( We're also not sure what is soil nutrient profile and what is new pathogen. Will keep you posted. The tree Milo and Mike and picking from looks good though!
String trimmer? Get a scythe ;) Seriously. Better control, more efficient, you can go right up to your desired species without hurting them and it's easier on the body than using a strimmer.
Syntropic comes from the word Syntropy, a term for nutritional interdependence, is primarily used in microbiology to describe the symbiotic relationship between bacterial species. It can be described as the relationship between the individuals of different species in which both benefit nutritionally from the presence of the other.
@@DarrelJones-i6y Actually, the term Syntropy was originally formulated as the opposite of Entropy; the second law of thermodynamics. In simpler terms, and in the context of Agriculture, a Syntropic system is where you move from simple to complex, and accumulate energy over time. An Entropic system is the opposite, where you go from complex to simple and lose energy over time. It's important to note, that both Syntropy and Entropy are necessary for the other to exist, and they will come in waves. For instance, when he performed a prune on this system, it put it into a temporary state of entropy, however, since the system was designed to move into further complexity, it will surge back into a higher state of Syntropy. Hope this helps :)
Hi Mike, If you are if you know Someone who can help me clear out grass in my property and then do monthly maintenance on my property here in Hilo Hawaii. If you or you can help please contact me here. I’m in Hilo right now I’ll be here for next week until Monday, July 15th
I’m 21, born and raised in nyc and this is what I want in life. Arborist skillz
You can do it! 🤙🏾🌴🌲
We are super happy u guys decided to keep making videos! We live at about 2200 elevation, so I've used all your info in figuring out how to plant out our food forest. We much appreciate your passing on what you've learned.
Thanks I’m glad our videos have been helpful 🤙🏾🌴
You just described a day in my life. I'm in Orchidland. Loved the closeups.
That's amazing. There'sso much to learn here. The weed trimmer does a great job with the cleaning. I love your channel been watching when you guys got the land a few years ago. It would be helpful to your channel to also make some shorts vids it will help putting your videos out there and with the numbers. All the best. I'm looking forward to you guys next video
Thanks for the comment and suggestion! It would be cool to make some shorts, just gotta figure that out 🤙🏾
1- 0:23 ´repare fertilizer
2- 1:06 clear weeds whit trimmer
3- 1:39 weed around target species by hand
4- 3:06 spread fertilizer mix
5- 3:40 chop & drop
Thanks 😊
You can weedwack mexi sunflower if the stem is green, could potentially speed up the chopping n dropping process. Can also get rhizobia at garden exchange and innoculate the soil so the nitrogen fixers are more productive.
Love the music video/reinforcement clips at the end of the video. It illustrates the concepts you just introduced well 🙏
The sound of your snipping is so satisfying 😊
Great video. You have a beautiful project, which I say with a like mind. I have a 70 hectare regenerative syntropic agroforestry system. I'm going a bit more jungly here, in terms of introducing orderly but very regular canopy crops. Lots of eritrinas, ingas, tabibueyas, acacias, and loads of mid story fixers like poinciana and jacaranda, and layering in cacao and coffee to fully stratify vertical space. Extra long and sturdy elescopic pruners are essential, but leaving tall shade really ups your game in terms of the quantity of biomass and N fixing and general soil biota. As you say, the tropics swollows up biomass so fast. But with the right density, you can build absurd depths of humus. Some of the denser cloud forrests on the property are meters deep in it.
Also, I recommend birds foot trefoil as a supplement or replacement to the fodder peanut. it does just as well if not better in shade but doesn't bind around tree roots so much. The fodder peanut is great, but once it reaches a lawn like density it can have a choking effect as the roots form a thick mass, and be really hard to keep clear of the "plate" of tree trunks without damaging feeder roots. Some trees, like guavas, being exotropic, don't care, but others find it a bit hard to breath unless your basically digging the stuff up regularly.
Thank you for sharing some details about your project! Sounds amazing! There are definitely things I would do differently next time but over time I plan on correcting my mistakes on this system. This is why I started small here. I knew the odds of me getting it perfect first try were slim lol.
Interesting 🤔 I’ll look into that.
Awesome 👏🏾 👏🏾. A scythe would work well in that system for trimming and mulching. Have u tried that before?
Aloha Michael, the farm is looking awesome:) what are those yellow flowering shrubs at 11:32?
Those are another type of crotalaria. Much woodier and grows wild much easier.
Thank you for your content, and you deserve many more likes!
Thank you 🙏
been waiting for videos good to see you are back!!
Thanks! Good to be back😊
Thanks for the great video! I am just getting started in Syntropic Agroforestry, but from what I had understood the idea is that after getting the system started you actually DONT need to add fertiliser, since the support species do the job? I thought that was the main difference in contrast to a food forest setup where you need externally added fertility for years, till the system is stable.
Great question! Because I skipped the placenta stage and put my grafted trees in straight away it is a good idea to enrich the soil. I think from a purist standpoint you would go through an accumulation phase where you would use grasses or something like pigeon pea for some time to do the work for you.
@@OffGridHawaii Thanks for the reply :) This means the fertiliser is just added to get the system started, and after that its not needed anymore? I guess it depends on the system, but in general you still want to avoid adding external fertilizer longterm?
@@jjfilmsandculture Fertilizer or some sort of input made be needed in the first few years in this context as his soil was most likely not ready to support that level of life. There is more to it than just "skipping the placenta stage", as the placenta stage is just the beginning of a new cycle. If the soil can't support higher succession species, then an earlier stage placenta is required, such as grasses, different shrubs, earlier succession trees, etc. The specific species depends on climate, but all the principles remain the same.
To address your initial question, yes, the idea of Syntropics is to not rely on any external inputs. If you were truly wanting to learn how to read and develop your system in alignment with the natural succession of nature, then using no external inputs, except seeds and knowledge is the way to go.
Hope this helps :)
We have sandy soil. We have a food forest and never ever heard of adding fertiliser. Seems a joke to me. We just plant trees and the system comes good. All this extra work seems stupid to me. I run acres by myself. Contrary to all the crap, it’s so easy. Plant, use your brain and after a few years it’s self sustainable.
nicest i´m from Brazil and i am enjoin your videos
You’re such a good editor 😘 and gardener 🤗
What is the hand tool with the red handle called and where do you get it? Thanks for the video, ove everything syntropic
Sickle or rice knife. Link is in the description 🤙
@@OffGridHawaii thanks
What is that plant called? Cordileria? Where can I get some? I live in kurtistown. Mahalo for such great info.
I can't answer when you might get some, but I believe you're referring to Crotalaria.
A quick google search for your area may show you when to get it.
Very nice. I need to utilize crotalaria more!
My game changing tool is a battery powered hedge trimmer. Slices through weeds and makes chop and drop almost effortless.
I spend a whole lot less time cutting stuff up. Lay it up around the stuff you want to feed and done cutting up not really needed.
I can see that being useful in certain situations 🤙
@@OffGridHawaii not for larger than 1.5 inch plants! I still need my machete and saw.
Nice, just saw this on recommended content. I'm next to Mount Kenya in East Africa, smack on the equator at 7000 ft elevation. Doing more and more syntropic here
Awesome! what kind of things are you growing there??
@@OffGridHawaii Dragonfruits and avocado are a big cash crop here, but we are more engaged in growing a full diet and community project. I'm trying to grow more jackfruit and soursop as there aren't many in this region, the diet has become very basic here and need to broaden the fruits
Mike would it be more beneficial to chop up all those cuttings for a quicker absorption?
If that’s what you are looking for yes you can.
😎🤙🌴U help inspire us on kauai
Amazing! So helpful
Man, you guys have come a long way since you first started. Are you still using human waste , as a fertilizer?
Yes. We plan on making an updated video soon, we have a new process.
Your videos are so inspiring, and your work has really taught us a lot. Not sure if this is the right place to contact you but we want to know if you're being affected by this annonaceae issue with your rollinias? Ours are looking poorly and reports of a widespread die-off are growing :-( Can you update us on yours and anything you're doing to help them?
This is a perfect place to ask 😉. Ours have definitely seen better days. Before hearing about the issues people are having I just figured the extended rainy season we had washed out more nutrients then normal. We’ve seen it for a few years now but this year seems the worst with most trees affected (small yellowing leaves, curling, and leaf hoppers). I have been foliar feeding with epsom salt, liquid calcium, and liquid kelp. It seems to be helping a little but I only started about a month ago. We also though some ag lime down around all of our trees. What are the symptoms you are seeing?
@@OffGridHawaii Lots of just plain leaf loss; branches are kind of denuded and the leaves have some browning (not so much curling), they're yellowish and just don't look happy. One tree gave us three yummy fruit but by the time they ripened they were just hanging there like xmas tree ornaments and no leaves :-( We're also not sure what is soil nutrient profile and what is new pathogen. Will keep you posted. The tree Milo and Mike and picking from looks good though!
what name support spiecs
String trimmer? Get a scythe ;) Seriously. Better control, more efficient, you can go right up to your desired species without hurting them and it's easier on the body than using a strimmer.
This syntropic thing is a new one on me. Syntropic is not in the dictionary. I asked Google, and Google was like,"What?!?!? So.....what is it?
Syntropic comes from the word Syntropy, a term for nutritional interdependence, is primarily used in microbiology to describe the symbiotic relationship between bacterial species. It can be described as the relationship between the individuals of different species in which both benefit nutritionally from the presence of the other.
@@OffGridHawaii Alrighty then.
@@DarrelJones-i6y Actually, the term Syntropy was originally formulated as the opposite of Entropy; the second law of thermodynamics.
In simpler terms, and in the context of Agriculture, a Syntropic system is where you move from simple to complex, and accumulate energy over time. An Entropic system is the opposite, where you go from complex to simple and lose energy over time.
It's important to note, that both Syntropy and Entropy are necessary for the other to exist, and they will come in waves. For instance, when he performed a prune on this system, it put it into a temporary state of entropy, however, since the system was designed to move into further complexity, it will surge back into a higher state of Syntropy.
Hope this helps :)
How are you supposed ride your Bmx in that jungle😅 kidding dude pumped ur doing good man
😂 we don’t even have dirt here to build jumps. Hope you are well too!
Hi Mike,
If you are if you know Someone who can help me clear out grass in my property and then do monthly maintenance on my property here in Hilo Hawaii. If you or you can help please contact me here. I’m in Hilo right now I’ll be here for next week until Monday, July 15th