Mark 14:16-18 The disciples left, went into the city and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover. When evening came, Jesus arrived with the Twelve. While they were reclining at the table eating, he said, "Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me one who is eating with me." John 19:14-16| It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. "Here is your king," Pilate said to the Jews. But they shouted, "Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered. Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified. So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. Mark 15:25 It was nine in the morning when they crucified him. What do you call these blatant contradictions. If they aren’t the truth, then there is only one word left for them. John 19:14-16 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. "Here is your king," Pilate said to the Jews. But they shouted, "Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered. Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified. So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. They all can’t be true so either one is a lie or they are all lies. Fact, all of them can’t be true.
I like the answer, the only thing I would suggest as far as answering the question for the people listening is not taking so long to give the answer. The guy obviously didn’t know the Hebrew meaning so just go into it. It took like 10-15 minutes just to answer the question. Again, great response, just needs to be better at how to respond quicker.
Duh.. For what? This muslim don't listen anyway... If he don't know the hebrew, then why use it in the first place.. They're just trying to make him realise what he did..to be aware and to be roasted by his own claim.. No chance, teaching in proper way to this kind of muslims.. If u listen to the whole video, his cussing and even mock Jesus.. What a walnut brain..
@PeaceMaker then they will said "are u arabic speaker? Your not arabic speaker so how u know? 🤣🤣🤣By then u tell them the way you understand it, then they say... No no no no.. That's not what it means.. then run around the bush to explain and do takiya🤣🤣🤣 then if you want to point out that they're wrong, they will said i will kill u🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, it's annoying because it's their egos getting in the way , in their mind theyre like " ah we got him and then try to get him to play their game saying what it means so they can then move to the point that hey, the word doesn't mean rape it means seize in original Hebrew and Niv has translated it wrong blah blah blah but to try get him to say it when he clearly doesn't know so it seems like they are getting a point over him it's like dude just say it straight up could of taken 10 seconds
_“So stupid! He was the Jewish Messiah sent to save no one from their sins worshipping the made up Muslim god but failed and was killed by Jews. BUT… they were all mistaken and MuhammadAllah warped him up to Heaven and turned Judas into Jesus and they killed him in his place. Subsequently every Jew and every disciple forgot Jesus was talking about Allah and instead Jews went on to say Jesus was merely a Jew claiming to be the Messiah and Christians went on to claim he is Lord & Saviour making his Muslim ministry a complete failure. A book was also given to Jesus called the Injeel - ‘Gospel/Good News’ which was also completely lost and corrupted completely contradicting MuhammadAllah’s decree that ‘none can change his words because he is the all-seeing all-knowing’._ _It’s incredibly simple and sane can’t believe you don’t get it.”_ - 🤡☪️🕋🤡
The NIV translation really does Christians a disservice. It misrepresented this verse I'm deuteronomy and put a weapon in the hands of people who hate Jesus and the Elohim of Christianity
There is a reason people make fun of the NIV and call it the "nearly inspired version." It is decidedly my least favorite translation by a mile. (Exluding things that aren't translations at all.) Made by chauvinists and illiterates in parts. If I were Uthman, I would let the Amplified stand and burn the NIV. 😂
There was a verse in the NIV that writes, Acts 3:20, and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you-even Jesus. I encountered a Muslim who tried to use this verse to prove that Jesus was not the Messiah, which does not make sense since their own book says that Jesus was the Messiah and in this very same version Jesus claims to be the Messiah in John 4:25-26🤣NIV is something else.
If you go to a Bible store, I have seen many times a graph that shows you all the Bible translations from the most literal to the most interpretive and the NIV is far in the side of the interpretive of that Spectrum
Shalom brothers and sisters Lets put this so they know Deuteronomy 22:25 “But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:”
Quran 4:24 Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women-except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.1 This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these-as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Nuff said.
This is why they should identify themselves as Mohammedans and not 'Muslims' And it's a monosatanic cult not a monotheistic religion. Christianity is the ONLY monotheistic religion because it is the only one that endorses worship to the ACTUAL GOD. Every other worldview endorses worship to a counterfeit entity
Seeing as how the shahada 1st isn’t even in the Q, which Muslims claim is the “word of god,” but next, Muslims think u can’t be Muslim unless u say the shahadah that includes “AND MOHAMMED,” for which I’ll add they accuse us of shirk when we include the “AND JESUS CHRIST” in 1 Corin 8:6, it proves that correct whether w/ or w/o allh as a generic name. Seems everybody knows this except them.
@@temporaryaccount5307incorrect as a muslim i see you guys tend to twist stuff around often. as we live in the time of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) we follow his teaching in which The Tawheed is revealed again after the Christians turned to idol worshipping and jews with their corruption and miss treatment of others We muslims follow the same teaching that Moses,Abraham And Jesus had peace and blessing be upon them all to follow one god Alone However jesus mission to earth wasn't complete cause the jews tried to kill him But failed as somone else was made to look like him and Allah raised jesus to heaven whrre he resides untill the second comming
What annoyed me the most in this clip was #FakeRabbi (going by his call name) constantly asking what that Hebrew word means when the caller said he doesn't know. Yes the caller was hostile from the beginning, but constantly badgering him to define a word he doesn't know the meaning to will only frustrate the caller more, as we saw. By constantly asking him to define a word he didn't know, and saying 'oh then don't talk to me about this verse' shows a large amount of a lack of charity. The charitable thing would have been to say 'oh okay so you don't know what it means, let me explain to you what it means and show you the previous verse that show the consequence of actual rape'. The constant request to define a word that the caller stated he didn't know just showed arrogance and caused the caller to be far more upset than he already was, thus making for an even more unproductive conversation. If after explaining what the word means and how it applies to the verse the caller still refused to understand and believe, that's a different conversation, but simply trying to get a 'one up' by saying 'oh you don't know the meaning, don't talk about it then' is completely arrogant.
I get what you mean but if he didn't know he could have just admitted that instead he refused to interact with the hebrew. If he allowed that then the conversation could have gone further. He didn't want to hear the hebrew, we can't do anything about it.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm The problem is that the caller did in fact say he didn't know, to which #FakeRabbi said 'then don't talk about it'. Had he responded with 'okay let me explain to you what the word means' the first time the caller said he didn't know rather than badgering the caller constantly with the same question, that would have possibly defused the callers hostility a bit but no, rather than be charitable FakeRabbi decided to reply from a place of superiority.
@xFollowerofChristx idk if this was 1 their first interaction and 2 the beginning of their interaction, so I would rather not comment on that. Either way, he is human and will make mistakes. He possibly didn't act in the best way but that doesn't make him a fake rabbi. If you are a Christian have some grace. Don't expect perfect from people who aren't perfect. Because you will admit that the Muslim could have granted the hebrew. Asked what does that have to do with it. Wanted to learn. We would have seen a better interaction. You cab blame the rabbi but to ignore the Muslim also is dis ingenious. He wasn't perfect either. Edit: the call did not want to hear it when it came to the hebrew. Let's at least agree on that.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm seriously? Are u kidding me? I listen to the whole video of this ... If i was fakerabbi i will do thesame.. This caller actually cussing and using a verse he don't know what it means.. Don't u listen how he mock Jesus? His trying so hard to make them say Amen to his lies and overlook the contradiction on the Quran..
Exactly! _The context doesn't allow for this to be a case of rape taking into consideration the words _*_“they are found”_*_ It alludes to this being a mutual consent between both parties. The man, in essence, violated her because she would no longer be fit for marriage unless the offending party marries her. During those times if a woman was found to be unfaithful before the marriage took place the fiance had the right to put her away._ This law reflects that found at Exodus 22:16 - 17 [ ET ]. But here the situation involves the complementary case of the seduction of an unbetrothed virgin. Therefore, there is no question of capital offence because no marriage or betrothal has apparently been compromised. While the NIV and many other versions treat this as a case of rape too, the terminology here is different, which points rather to a case of seduction with the expression and they are discovered (v. 28 b). If they are discovered, then the man is obliged to marry the girl, and is prevented from ever divorcing her (v. 29 b). As part of this arrangement, he has to pay the sum of fifty shekels of silver to the girl’s father, which may have represented the equivalent of a bride price. (Woods, Edward J.. Deuteronomy : An Introduction and Commentary, InterVarsity Press, 2011. pg242) _This principle was given in vv13-21 which says if a man was interested in a woman and asked for her hand in marriage but later on he found out that she was unfaithful/not a virgin it was in his right to put her away. This brought shame on the woman and her family due to her immoral lifestyle._ _But if the woman was a virgin and falsely accused of sexual immorality, the parents would bring evidence establishing she is indeed a virgin. In this scenario, the man who accused her would be beaten (whipped) and would have to give the family 100 shekels as compensation for her damaged reputation._ (whatsoeverthingsaretrue dot org)
It would be boldly crazy to assume that the law would allow rape on their sacred virgins who were viewed with very high honour, the same law that says you shall love thy neighbour, you shall not commit adultery you shall not afflict the resident alien, a widow or an orphan.
Deuteronomy 22:26 “But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:”
Truthfinder is legitimately ridiculous, unintelligent, and one of the worst dawahghandists ever. I watched a live stream where he asked a question, Anthony Rogers proceeded to answer, and Truthfinder (with his camera on) literally sat down and played video games, showing the camera his controller as if proud of his rudeness and idiocy. So Truthfinder, keep up the great work for the kingdom of Jesus!
This problem has been aggravated by the fact that some translations inaccurately and mistakenly translate the word as “rape.” The truth is, however, the Hebrew word in this case translated “seizes” (tapas) can mean many things. Here are some examples of the way it is translated in Deuteronomy 22:28 in several different English translations: “lay hold on her” (ASV) “taking her” (DRA) “and takes her” (NLV/NAB) “and hath caught her” (YLT) By looking at other passages that use the word, we can see that the word tapas sometimes has nothing to do with force, and therefore nothing to do with rape.
I listened eagerly to the discussion with Sean Griffin @Kingdom in Context. All parties were disappointing. You ALL need to take your work more seriously. I want to learn. That was an hour I won't get back. God was not glorified in that discussion at all. Love you all.
I get what you mean. If you want a more teaching channel I suggest going to smart christian channel. He does alot more bible teaching. Here is more discussion and conversations. Less teaching
When Jesus is called “King of kings and Lord of lords,” it means that, in the end, all other rulers will be conquered or abolished, and He alone will reign supreme as King and Lord of all the earth. There is no power, no king, and no lord who can oppose Him and win him 😊 “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow-in heaven and on earth and under the earth” (Philippians 2:10, ), the emphasis was on every creature in the universe acknowledging Jesus as Lord over all creation. When he stated, “Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord” (verse 11,), he meant that every living thing, both in heaven and on earth, will honor Christ. Heavenly forces and demonic powers, Muslims, people who reject Christ and His faithful in the church-all will bow before Him (Isaiah 45:23-24). Every tongue will acknowledge Jesus for who He is-the Sovereign Lord of the universe. Allah lied to you and is Satan ➕ Glory Jesus is alive forevermore and lives Muhammad's is dead not in illusion Jenna he is in hell Glory! Jesus is in heaven
Since earlier *in this same quoted chapter* is the 'death penalty for rape' ruling, we know that this passage that was brought up cannot be about rape. It's that simple. The NIV translation is simply wrong here, which is why going to the Hebrew is the wise way to handle it. Odd that so many dawahgandists have problems with going to Hebrew when one of their main defenses is "Do you speak Arabic?" XD
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Proper wording does not say r@p3 read kjv, thats a twisted version permitting worst sin. It is lie with her.EDIT The version he is reading is so messed up.
Why not just answer the question brother? This could've been much more productive. Always be ready to give an answer with meekness and fear. God bless you brothers.
Shot gun weddings still happen. I worked with a guy who was supposed to take a two week vacation in Mexico but because of his philandering ways he came back six months later married.
I understand the man saying he didnt swear because when i cursed alot more, there would be times i cursed and wouldnt even realize or remember because of how much i used them....but he said he didnt curse so idunno
This translation of rape should be interpreted as seduced ie sweet talked This was to protect women in this ancient culture A non virgin woman would not be able to get married This would be a dishonor to the family
3:10 is no different than Muslims claiming you need to know Arabic. The page on the screen is an authentic Bible with millions of people that follow it. “You don’t know that word”. People don’t have to know the language that’s why there are translations.
Deu 22:28-29 KJV 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Thank Yall Brothers and Sisters for the video. I love me some Brother Radar! What is so bad Muslims try to look at are Holy Bible the way their Filthy Quarn.
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Correct Deuteronomy 22:28 28If a man finds a virgin girl who was not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, כחכִּֽי־יִמְצָ֣א אִ֗ישׁ נַֽעֲרָ֤ה (כתיב נער) בְתוּלָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־אֹרָ֔שָׂה וּתְפָשָׂ֖הּ וְשָׁכַ֣ב עִמָּ֑הּ וְנִמְצָֽאוּ:
But if it is in the field that the man will find the betrothed girl, and the man will seize her and lie with her, only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:25 Ki Seitzei The Stone Edition TANACH published by Mesorah Publications, Ltd.
I was having trouble with this verse actually till (today) I found out that ot does not mean "rape". Whoever translated it this way should be beheaded by muslims. XD
Not to mention the passage in Deuteronomy is in the Torah which the Quran claims is from Allah. Pointing out an issue without understanding that it implicates your own God is imbecilic.
truthfinder uk if asked about the arabic translation of a word would instantly talk about the actual arabic word rather than the translation but when it comes to biblical words he doesn't want to do that. textbook coward i guess, or double standard idk
Yeah, it's funny how these Abd0uL's whenever we cite any problematic verses in their k0ran will tell us that we need to know the Arabic to truly understand it.
"truthfinder uk" already started out being ignorant, and then he became willfully ignorant..."what does the hebrew word mean...It doesn't matter, Jesus was a hebrew man" like does he know what he is saying?
The funny part about this is that the Quran holds the Torah/OT to be the true word of God so.. they should follow all that’s In the Torah too 😂 it’s an easy backfire on him
“If a man seduces a virginq who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price,r and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.
I disagree. I don't know the Hebrew, but in my opinion, the context makes it clear that this is about rap, and this gave me troubles for a while. However, it doesn't say that the woman has to marry the man, it says the man has to marry the woman. Exodus 22 says that if a man seduces a woman, he shall marry her. But if her father doesn't want to give her to him, the man shall pay him the price of a virgin. I heavily assume that the same applies to rap. The father is not obliged to give him his daughter, but the man is obliged to marry her if her father says so. But I find it ironic that such a thing is coming from a Muslim, considering his prophet and his gang were a bunch of rappers and pdf-files.
The reason why the raped was forced to marry her rapist was purely based on culture then because she becomes rejected, dessolated coz no one want to marry a non virgin. This is more traumaticing so the best solution (based on this culture) is to force the rapist marrying her with heavy cost (50 shekkles of silver). The mohammadan is oblivoius to the same verse which spell out death peanlty for similar rape of married woman. However, mohammadans should be the last to talk about rape since their so called prophet rape Aisha when she was 9 years old until she became of appropriate age
If a jew asks a question about the original language of the bible, shouldnt a muslim respect that due to the fact that they always tell ppl they need to read the Quran in the original language? I guess not.
Lol what do you mean the guy came in cussing and not even answered a average question and even said we are reading the Christian Bible not the Hebrew Bible witch doesn’t make sense the Bible was written in Hebrew and amareic
This man clearly had very little understanding and shouldn’t have been arguing against something he hasn’t studied out but even so, this teacher did nothing but provoke the man by asking him the same question over 10 times instead of explaining, instead of teaching, instead of sharing the truth. On top of all the laughing and silly sounds that are what? Supposed to emphasize a point? This whole altercation seemed more like a couple of guys arguing for their favorite sports team rather than Godly Men sharing truth. Makes me wonder what spirit they’re of.
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Good information, by the end of it, but boy was this video hard to listen to and get through. So much immaturity and bad communication. Please work on this.
Good video but give the answer early on, no need to show off Hebrew and ask if he knows Hebrew multiple times. He said he does not know. At that point just explain it to him and the listeners who don’t know also. I’m a Christian and I know this passage link to other passages , you don’t need to know Hebrew to understand.
תפשה Catching her, taking her Its not the best translation maybe And by the way he pronounced it wrong te instead of ta. And for some reason he puts an ungly milel in the end of almost any word. Which makes it sound ugly.
Use their own rationality against them. When you ask them about something it says in the quran, they say they understand what it means because they are believers, but non-believers can't understand. Well, since you are anti-Christian, aka antiChrist, then why would I think that you aren't going to misinterpret our scriptures because you don't understand context or content.
I don't understand why you guys are conversations with a human like that, I can't bare it. You tried and bared with him a bit, dust your feet brothers and leave him.
When Jesus is called “King of kings and Lord of lords,” it means that, in the end, all other rulers will be conquered or abolished, and He alone will reign supreme as King and Lord of all the earth. There is no power, no king, and no lord who can oppose Him and win him 😊 “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow-in heaven and on earth and under the earth” (Philippians 2:10, ), the emphasis was on every creature in the universe acknowledging Jesus as Lord over all creation. When he stated, “Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord” (verse 11,), he meant that every living thing, both in heaven and on earth, will honor Christ. Heavenly forces and demonic powers, Muslims, people who reject Christ and His faithful in the church-all will bow before Him (Isaiah 45:23-24). Every tongue will acknowledge Jesus for who He is-the Sovereign Lord of the universe. Allah lied to you and is Satan ➕ Glory Jesus is alive forevermore and lives Muhammad's is dead not in illusion Jenna he is in hell Glory! Jesus is in heaven
No one worships Muhammad so no one cares or minds he's dead. Even Jesus died, according to Christians and they think he's God. Not sure why so many people compare who they think is God to who no one thinks is God. It's odd.
Islam without lies dies....
Truth❤
It goes without lies islam dies.😉
Mark 14:16-18
The disciples left, went into the city and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover. When evening came, Jesus arrived with the Twelve. While they were reclining at the table eating, he said, "Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me one who is eating with me."
John 19:14-16|
It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
"Here is your king," Pilate said to the Jews. But they shouted,
"Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered. Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified. So the soldiers took charge of Jesus.
Mark 15:25
It was nine in the morning when they crucified him.
What do you call these blatant contradictions.
If they aren’t the truth, then there is only one word left for them.
John 19:14-16
It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
"Here is your king," Pilate said to the Jews. But they shouted,
"Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered. Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified. So the soldiers took charge of Jesus.
They all can’t be true so either one is a lie or they are all lies. Fact, all of them can’t be true.
It's "Islam dies without lies"
@@allofit3547your wrong after Pilate handed Jesus over they didn’t crucify him right away lol.
We need more messianic Jews/Christians who are bold and able to share their knowledge
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@@Checkmate777 what is Christian Prince RUclips channel name..didn’t see it
@@SundayVibesmusic “Christian Prince2”. He has a channel called “Christian Prince” but I don’t think he posts on it anymore or something.
There is guy named dr brown he is a messianic jew i think
Jonathan cahn is a messianic Jew I believe but I don’t really know anything about him.
I like the answer, the only thing I would suggest as far as answering the question for the people listening is not taking so long to give the answer. The guy obviously didn’t know the Hebrew meaning so just go into it. It took like 10-15 minutes just to answer the question. Again, great response, just needs to be better at how to respond quicker.
Duh.. For what? This muslim don't listen anyway... If he don't know the hebrew, then why use it in the first place.. They're just trying to make him realise what he did..to be aware and to be roasted by his own claim.. No chance, teaching in proper way to this kind of muslims.. If u listen to the whole video, his cussing and even mock Jesus.. What a walnut brain..
@PeaceMaker then they will said "are u arabic speaker? Your not arabic speaker so how u know? 🤣🤣🤣By then u tell them the way you understand it, then they say... No no no no.. That's not what it means.. then run around the bush to explain and do takiya🤣🤣🤣 then if you want to point out that they're wrong, they will said i will kill u🤣🤣🤣
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Exactly, it's annoying because it's their egos getting in the way , in their mind theyre like " ah we got him and then try to get him to play their game saying what it means so they can then move to the point that hey, the word doesn't mean rape it means seize in original Hebrew and Niv has translated it wrong blah blah blah but to try get him to say it when he clearly doesn't know so it seems like they are getting a point over him it's like dude just say it straight up could of taken 10 seconds
True...was a little drag
"Jesus was a Hebrew man!"
- Wait... I thought Jesus was a "Muslim", truthfinder uk?
_“So stupid! He was the Jewish Messiah sent to save no one from their sins worshipping the made up Muslim god but failed and was killed by Jews. BUT… they were all mistaken and MuhammadAllah warped him up to Heaven and turned Judas into Jesus and they killed him in his place. Subsequently every Jew and every disciple forgot Jesus was talking about Allah and instead Jews went on to say Jesus was merely a Jew claiming to be the Messiah and Christians went on to claim he is Lord & Saviour making his Muslim ministry a complete failure. A book was also given to Jesus called the Injeel - ‘Gospel/Good News’ which was also completely lost and corrupted completely contradicting MuhammadAllah’s decree that ‘none can change his words because he is the all-seeing all-knowing’._
_It’s incredibly simple and sane can’t believe you don’t get it.”_
- 🤡☪️🕋🤡
Right - the father of lies at it again.
That's muslim 😂😂
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And the Quran claims the Torah is his revelation which includes Deuteronomy. So he should ask allah why this verse is in the Bible.
Hehehe... After last night's stream I was expecting this. Looking forward to this.
he's angry because he knows he's hell bound in this current state
The NIV translation really does Christians a disservice. It misrepresented this verse I'm deuteronomy and put a weapon in the hands of people who hate Jesus and the Elohim of Christianity
In Deuteronomy 22:25 rape would be the correct translation but in verse 28 sex through coercion is the correct translation.
There is a reason people make fun of the NIV and call it the "nearly inspired version." It is decidedly my least favorite translation by a mile. (Exluding things that aren't translations at all.) Made by chauvinists and illiterates in parts. If I were Uthman, I would let the Amplified stand and burn the NIV. 😂
There was a verse in the NIV that writes, Acts 3:20, and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you-even Jesus. I encountered a Muslim who tried to use this verse to prove that Jesus was not the Messiah, which does not make sense since their own book says that Jesus was the Messiah and in this very same version Jesus claims to be the Messiah in John 4:25-26🤣NIV is something else.
NO IDEA VERSION
If you go to a Bible store, I have seen many times a graph that shows you all the Bible translations from the most literal to the most interpretive and the NIV is far in the side of the interpretive of that Spectrum
Shalom brothers and sisters
Lets put this so they know
Deuteronomy 22:25
“But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:”
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I would love too see you and rabbi refute Hebrew Israelites and their claims. That would be an amazing video recommendation.
I love you Godlogic
Quran 4:24
Also ˹forbidden are˺ married women-except ˹female˺ captives in your possession.1 This is Allah’s commandment to you. Lawful to you are all beyond these-as long as you seek them with your wealth in a legal marriage, not in fornication. Give those you have consummated marriage with their due dowries. It is permissible to be mutually gracious regarding the set dowry. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Nuff said.
That Abdul is an actual troll.
there was a lot of manifestation
😔 It is VERY confusing when you allow EVERYBODY to interrupt constantly ❗😔
This guy cussinh reminds of those dudes who had thier first beer can and starts talking like a tough guy 😂😂😂😂
islam is going down 🐕🐶
The NLT seems to have the best English translation of this verse.
Oh I love it when they rage yes please show us the leaves of Islam show usssss your trueeee natureeee😂😂😂
As Al lah is not a name and nothing more than a generic term for god, that would show the only name in the shahada is Muhammads. 🤔
This is why they should identify themselves as Mohammedans and not 'Muslims'
And it's a monosatanic cult not a monotheistic religion. Christianity is the ONLY monotheistic religion because it is the only one that endorses worship to the ACTUAL GOD. Every other worldview endorses worship to a counterfeit entity
A former nabatean king
al-lat his queen and daughters al-uzza and al-manat.
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Seeing as how the shahada 1st isn’t even in the Q, which Muslims claim is the “word of god,” but next, Muslims think u can’t be Muslim unless u say the shahadah that includes “AND MOHAMMED,” for which I’ll add they accuse us of shirk when we include the “AND JESUS CHRIST” in 1 Corin 8:6, it proves that correct whether w/ or w/o allh as a generic name. Seems everybody knows this except them.
@@temporaryaccount5307incorrect as a muslim i see you guys tend to twist stuff around often. as we live in the time of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) we follow his teaching in which The Tawheed is revealed again after the Christians turned to idol worshipping and jews with their corruption and miss treatment of others
We muslims follow the same teaching that Moses,Abraham And Jesus had peace and blessing be upon them all to follow one god Alone
However jesus mission to earth wasn't complete cause the jews tried to kill him
But failed as somone else was made to look like him and Allah raised jesus to heaven whrre he resides untill the second comming
What annoyed me the most in this clip was #FakeRabbi (going by his call name) constantly asking what that Hebrew word means when the caller said he doesn't know. Yes the caller was hostile from the beginning, but constantly badgering him to define a word he doesn't know the meaning to will only frustrate the caller more, as we saw. By constantly asking him to define a word he didn't know, and saying 'oh then don't talk to me about this verse' shows a large amount of a lack of charity. The charitable thing would have been to say 'oh okay so you don't know what it means, let me explain to you what it means and show you the previous verse that show the consequence of actual rape'. The constant request to define a word that the caller stated he didn't know just showed arrogance and caused the caller to be far more upset than he already was, thus making for an even more unproductive conversation. If after explaining what the word means and how it applies to the verse the caller still refused to understand and believe, that's a different conversation, but simply trying to get a 'one up' by saying 'oh you don't know the meaning, don't talk about it then' is completely arrogant.
I get what you mean but if he didn't know he could have just admitted that instead he refused to interact with the hebrew. If he allowed that then the conversation could have gone further. He didn't want to hear the hebrew, we can't do anything about it.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm The problem is that the caller did in fact say he didn't know, to which #FakeRabbi said 'then don't talk about it'. Had he responded with 'okay let me explain to you what the word means' the first time the caller said he didn't know rather than badgering the caller constantly with the same question, that would have possibly defused the callers hostility a bit but no, rather than be charitable FakeRabbi decided to reply from a place of superiority.
@xFollowerofChristx idk if this was 1 their first interaction and 2 the beginning of their interaction, so I would rather not comment on that.
Either way, he is human and will make mistakes. He possibly didn't act in the best way but that doesn't make him a fake rabbi. If you are a Christian have some grace. Don't expect perfect from people who aren't perfect.
Because you will admit that the Muslim could have granted the hebrew. Asked what does that have to do with it. Wanted to learn. We would have seen a better interaction. You cab blame the rabbi but to ignore the Muslim also is dis ingenious. He wasn't perfect either.
Edit: the call did not want to hear it when it came to the hebrew. Let's at least agree on that.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm seriously? Are u kidding me? I listen to the whole video of this ... If i was fakerabbi i will do thesame.. This caller actually cussing and using a verse he don't know what it means.. Don't u listen how he mock Jesus? His trying so hard to make them say Amen to his lies and overlook the contradiction on the Quran..
@imjulie830 you respond to me but you don't have a clear point
Exactly! _The context doesn't allow for this to be a case of rape taking into consideration the words _*_“they are found”_*_ It alludes to this being a mutual consent between both parties. The man, in essence, violated her because she would no longer be fit for marriage unless the offending party marries her. During those times if a woman was found to be unfaithful before the marriage took place the fiance had the right to put her away._
This law reflects that found at Exodus 22:16 - 17 [ ET ]. But here the situation involves the complementary case of the seduction of an unbetrothed virgin. Therefore, there is no question of capital offence because no marriage or betrothal has apparently been compromised. While the NIV and many other versions treat this as a case of rape too, the terminology here is different, which points rather to a case of seduction with the expression and they are discovered (v. 28 b). If they are discovered, then the man is obliged to marry the girl, and is prevented from ever divorcing her (v. 29 b). As part of this arrangement, he has to pay the sum of fifty shekels of silver to the girl’s father, which may have represented the equivalent of a bride price. (Woods, Edward J.. Deuteronomy : An Introduction and Commentary, InterVarsity Press, 2011. pg242)
_This principle was given in vv13-21 which says if a man was interested in a woman and asked for her hand in marriage but later on he found out that she was unfaithful/not a virgin it was in his right to put her away. This brought shame on the woman and her family due to her immoral lifestyle._
_But if the woman was a virgin and falsely accused of sexual immorality, the parents would bring evidence establishing she is indeed a virgin. In this scenario, the man who accused her would be beaten (whipped) and would have to give the family 100 shekels as compensation for her damaged reputation._ (whatsoeverthingsaretrue dot org)
Spot on!
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It would be boldly crazy to assume that the law would allow rape on their sacred virgins who were viewed with very high honour, the same law that says you shall love thy neighbour, you shall not commit adultery you shall not afflict the resident alien, a widow or an orphan.
it just makes sense to marry a girl you impregnate out of wedlock.
Yeah
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lol truth finder obv has mental issues. Though to be fair, these days I can't tell the difference between muslim arguments and satire
Wonderful explanation brother, thank you
Deuteronomy 22:26
“But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:”
Truthfinder is legitimately ridiculous, unintelligent, and one of the worst dawahghandists ever. I watched a live stream where he asked a question, Anthony Rogers proceeded to answer, and Truthfinder (with his camera on) literally sat down and played video games, showing the camera his controller as if proud of his rudeness and idiocy. So Truthfinder, keep up the great work for the kingdom of Jesus!
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This problem has been aggravated by the fact that some translations inaccurately and mistakenly translate the word as “rape.” The truth is, however, the Hebrew word in this case translated “seizes” (tapas) can mean many things. Here are some examples of the way it is translated in Deuteronomy 22:28 in several different English translations:
“lay hold on her” (ASV)
“taking her” (DRA)
“and takes her” (NLV/NAB)
“and hath caught her” (YLT)
By looking at other passages that use the word, we can see that the word tapas sometimes has nothing to do with force, and therefore nothing to do with rape.
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I listened eagerly to the discussion with Sean Griffin @Kingdom in Context. All parties were disappointing. You ALL need to take your work more seriously. I want to learn. That was an hour I won't get back. God was not glorified in that discussion at all. Love you all.
I get what you mean. If you want a more teaching channel I suggest going to smart christian channel. He does alot more bible teaching.
Here is more discussion and conversations. Less teaching
Just tell him what it means
Basically
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Muhammad's is dead not in illusion Jenna he is in hell
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Since earlier *in this same quoted chapter* is the 'death penalty for rape' ruling, we know that this passage that was brought up cannot be about rape. It's that simple.
The NIV translation is simply wrong here, which is why going to the Hebrew is the wise way to handle it.
Odd that so many dawahgandists have problems with going to Hebrew when one of their main defenses is "Do you speak Arabic?" XD
0:53 dude hit’em with the Russell Westbrook “What?”
If he used context from the beginning he would realize that consentual sex was spoken about in that specific text.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Proper wording does not say r@p3 read kjv, thats a twisted version permitting worst sin. It is lie with her.EDIT The version he is reading is so messed up.
Why not just answer the question brother? This could've been much more productive. Always be ready to give an answer with meekness and fear. God bless you brothers.
The point is to educate. Dude wasn’t going to listen regardless he was set on one point and was stubborn ignorant and head strong on it.
What is the name of song which plays at the starting for video .
Sheik Chris Sheik Avery look how we original Quran only have to deal with the Muslim scripture twisting.❤ ❤ ❤
I had better reading skills than 'truth finder' when I was 6. 😂 No wonder he can barely understand the Bible
Shot gun weddings still happen. I worked with a guy who was supposed to take a two week vacation in Mexico but because of his philandering ways he came back six months later married.
Yessir!
This is pure comedy
I understand the man saying he didnt swear because when i cursed alot more, there would be times i cursed and wouldnt even realize or remember because of how much i used them....but he said he didnt curse so idunno
The Muslim only came on to have his 15 minutes of fame. And after that he became very crazed.
This translation of rape should be interpreted as seduced ie sweet talked
This was to protect women in this ancient culture
A non virgin woman would not be able to get married
This would be a dishonor to the family
3:10 is no different than Muslims claiming you need to know Arabic. The page on the screen is an authentic Bible with millions of people that follow it. “You don’t know that word”. People don’t have to know the language that’s why there are translations.
😂😂😂 Muslims don't like it when they use the card against them. I respect Rabbi for that.
Deu 22:28-29 KJV 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Thank Yall Brothers and Sisters for the video. I love me some Brother Radar! What is so bad Muslims try to look at are Holy Bible the way their Filthy Quarn.
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Which stream was this???? Where’s the link? I need the link!😭😂
Where is the full stream?
Correct
Deuteronomy 22:28
28If a man finds a virgin girl who was not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, כחכִּֽי־יִמְצָ֣א אִ֗ישׁ נַֽעֲרָ֤ה (כתיב נער) בְתוּלָה֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־אֹרָ֔שָׂה וּתְפָשָׂ֖הּ וְשָׁכַ֣ב עִמָּ֑הּ וְנִמְצָֽאוּ:
So? What are the meaning of every single of these words? We can use many biblical dixtionaries and I am sure those will not say the word "rape"
Shoulda just got straight to the point
God logic can you bring on @AMEN PODCAST ?
Thank you rabbi Eduardo for schooling this chicken nugget Abdool caller.
1 minute til meltdown
maybe the rabbi should explain why he makes people call him rabbi? (matthew 23:8)
But if it is in the field that the man will find the betrothed girl, and the man will seize her and lie with her, only the man who lies with her shall die. Deuteronomy 22:25 Ki Seitzei The Stone Edition TANACH published by Mesorah Publications, Ltd.
the rabbi lost all credibility with that nonsense.
I was having trouble with this verse actually till (today) I found out that ot does not mean "rape". Whoever translated it this way should be beheaded by muslims. XD
🤔Was that a baby crying in the background??
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Not to mention the passage in Deuteronomy is in the Torah which the Quran claims is from Allah. Pointing out an issue without understanding that it implicates your own God is imbecilic.
truthfinder uk if asked about the arabic translation of a word would instantly talk about the actual arabic word rather than the translation but when it comes to biblical words he doesn't want to do that. textbook coward i guess, or double standard idk
Yeah, it's funny how these Abd0uL's whenever we cite any problematic verses in their k0ran will tell us that we need to know the Arabic to truly understand it.
This video didn't even need to be 13 minutes long. Geeze. And what is this hebrew word? How is it spelled so I can look it up myself?
Anybody can tell who is this messianic teacher?
"truthfinder uk" already started out being ignorant, and then he became willfully ignorant..."what does the hebrew word mean...It doesn't matter, Jesus was a hebrew man" like does he know what he is saying?
The funny part about this is that the Quran holds the Torah/OT to be the true word of God so.. they should follow all that’s In the Torah too 😂 it’s an easy backfire on him
“If a man seduces a virginq who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price,r and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.
I disagree. I don't know the Hebrew, but in my opinion, the context makes it clear that this is about rap, and this gave me troubles for a while. However, it doesn't say that the woman has to marry the man, it says the man has to marry the woman. Exodus 22 says that if a man seduces a woman, he shall marry her. But if her father doesn't want to give her to him, the man shall pay him the price of a virgin. I heavily assume that the same applies to rap. The father is not obliged to give him his daughter, but the man is obliged to marry her if her father says so.
But I find it ironic that such a thing is coming from a Muslim, considering his prophet and his gang were a bunch of rappers and pdf-files.
Ali G in spewing idiocracy.
Just tell him what it means instead of babbling on for 10 minutes
Right. He could have just explained it.
The reason why the raped was forced to marry her rapist was purely based on culture then because she becomes rejected, dessolated coz no one want to marry a non virgin. This is more traumaticing so the best solution (based on this culture) is to force the rapist marrying her with heavy cost (50 shekkles of silver). The mohammadan is oblivoius to the same verse which spell out death peanlty for similar rape of married woman.
However, mohammadans should be the last to talk about rape since their so called prophet rape Aisha when she was 9 years old until she became of appropriate age
5:20-5:45 😅
so he basically does what muslims do with arabic. no one got destroyed here lol
Is he a kid?
If a jew asks a question about the original language of the bible, shouldnt a muslim respect that due to the fact that they always tell ppl they need to read the Quran in the original language? I guess not.
This was terribly moderated and I see no one truly trying to discuss truth nor teach it. But rather flaunt intellect. This was wack.
Lol what do you mean the guy came in cussing and not even answered a average question and even said we are reading the Christian Bible not the Hebrew Bible witch doesn’t make sense the Bible was written in Hebrew and amareic
This man clearly had very little understanding and shouldn’t have been arguing against something he hasn’t studied out but even so, this teacher did nothing but provoke the man by asking him the same question over 10 times instead of explaining, instead of teaching, instead of sharing the truth. On top of all the laughing and silly sounds that are what? Supposed to emphasize a point? This whole altercation seemed more like a couple of guys arguing for their favorite sports team rather than Godly Men sharing truth. Makes me wonder what spirit they’re of.
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Good information, by the end of it, but boy was this video hard to listen to and get through. So much immaturity and bad communication. Please work on this.
Good video but give the answer early on, no need to show off Hebrew and ask if he knows Hebrew multiple times. He said he does not know. At that point just explain it to him and the listeners who don’t know also. I’m a Christian and I know this passage link to other passages , you don’t need to know Hebrew to understand.
Translate the Hebrew word
תפשה Catching her, taking her
Its not the best translation maybe
And by the way he pronounced it wrong te instead of ta. And for some reason he puts an ungly milel in the end of almost any word. Which makes it sound ugly.
Use their own rationality against them. When you ask them about something it says in the quran, they say they understand what it means because they are believers, but non-believers can't understand. Well, since you are anti-Christian, aka antiChrist, then why would I think that you aren't going to misinterpret our scriptures because you don't understand context or content.
What do you have to do with Iraq, abdul?!
I don't understand why you guys are conversations with a human like that, I can't bare it. You tried and bared with him a bit, dust your feet brothers and leave him.
When Jesus is called “King of kings and Lord of lords,” it means that, in the end, all other rulers will be conquered or abolished, and He alone will reign supreme as King and Lord of all the earth. There is no power, no king, and no lord who can oppose Him and win him 😊 “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow-in heaven and on earth and under the earth” (Philippians 2:10, ), the emphasis was on every creature in the universe acknowledging Jesus as Lord over all creation. When he stated, “Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord” (verse 11,), he meant that every living thing, both in heaven and on earth, will honor Christ. Heavenly forces and demonic powers, Muslims, people who reject Christ and His faithful in the church-all will bow before Him (Isaiah 45:23-24). Every tongue will acknowledge Jesus for who He is-the Sovereign Lord of the universe. Allah lied to you and is Satan ➕ Glory Jesus is alive forevermore and lives
Muhammad's is dead not in illusion Jenna he is in hell
Glory! Jesus is in heaven
No one worships Muhammad so no one cares or minds he's dead. Even Jesus died, according to Christians and they think he's God. Not sure why so many people compare who they think is God to who no one thinks is God. It's odd.
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