2021 MV Agusta Brutale 800 RR vs Dragster RR: Which Is Better?
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My dream bike !! Both are beautiful,,but the Brutale is the one for me!!! 🤘🤘🤘
When I rode a Dragster a few years back, it felt like a motard - felt like I was perched over the front wheel. Very responsive steering, and I was chucking monos without even trying. I’d go for the slightly less insane Brutale.
They certainly keep you on your toes!
That makes sense now that you pointed it. The Dragster is evident in its name. I suppose they brought in the front wheel rake and extended the rear wheel.
@@motobob I would take the Dragster... I am more of a Brutal Person and its pure irony coz the brutale's is there as well😂
BOTH looking like Gym buddy...!!!!
Muscular Beasts.
😊😊😊
You've pretty much nailed it. The only other difference I would say is that I think the pegs on the Brutale are slighly higher, contributing to that sporty feel. I went for Dragster as I like the looks more and I like the leverage of the wide bars (though they are a pain when filtering). The SCS is fantastic if you ride a lot in traffic.
Still one of the sexiest bikes on the market, but I believe the original Dragster RR in red and white, with the white spoked wheels, is THE most beautiful example of them all! The white rim with the black spokes on the single sided swingarm makes the rear wheel appear to be totally disconnected from the bike yet following it everywhere. The current RR wheels in their dark colors lose that effect.
I’ve got a 2015 Dragster RR and its mad. I ditched the bar end mirrors for a more conventional set up which is easier thru traffic. Also had the seat altered to try and stop me sliding into the tank, which didn’t really work. Absolutely love the bike - it’s a keeper 👍
The design is just crazy ! The most beautiful bike for me
For me dragster will always be my dream bike ❣️🔥 that spike tyres 💯
Good choice, I have a dragster lh44 and they are amazing.
Those wheels on the dragster though, just looks so good.
I have owned my 22 Dragster SCS for about two months now and WOW! Its my first MV, I have had an R6, YZF, and Buell Lightning 1200 and this Dragster is by far a more superior bike. The light body and short wheel base really make the bike a part of your body. Where you think, it goes. There is so much torque its mind blowing. More torque than my 1200 cc V-twin buell. The SCS is awesome. Not needing the clutch lever is weird at first but its incredibly convenient at traffic lights and in quick shifts. I absolutely love the Dragster.
If you need to slip the clutch during tight turns, does it still work normally?
@@aka_pierre yes. It still works perfectly if you prefer to ride it like a normal bike and operate the clutch manually. You just don’t have to. I still use it at time accelerating in first gear at lights because I do love shifting. It’s part of riding, but it truly convenient to not HAVE to because the clutch less requirement mixed with the smoothness of the speed shifter is mind blowing
It has considerably less torque than the Buell... what are you on about?
@@joaosoares3719 maybe the Agusta feels like it has more torque because it's 30lbs lighter and probably has a higher compression ratio
@@DB-fn3fz but the torque is much higher in the rpm range unlike the buell, where as the torque starts down low and pulls to about 5k
Both stunning looking bikes, Dragster edges it on the looks, but maybe the Brutale the sensible choice, have an older MV on my bucket list, Cheers Motobob
Great video! Are we going to see the 2021 f3 rr on this channel any time soon? Thanks!
Always quality videos!..
One day... 🤞🤞🤞
Very nice to take both out back to back. I had a demo day go on Dragster and couldn't stop giggling.
I think I'd be more of a rider, though. Just have to take both out back to back now...
If you want to go fast in the twisty bits get the Brutale, easily the best “big bike” I’ve ever ridden on a mountain road.
A triple the demon child of a twin and a four, a counter rotating crank and narrower section tyres this thing changes direction almost by thought alone, try it it’s addictive 😁👍
Most underrated motorcycle manufacturer!!
Just too expensive but always make beautiful bikes
New 2021 dragster (800RC) is now one quarter more expensive than my 2019 model 🤔😳
comparing the Brutale 800RR to the Tuono 660 Factory - which is more fun?
What did you think of the Dragsters steering? Did you notice any vibration in it?
Have you any plans in reviewing the upgraded Turismo Veloce?
Had the 910 brutale and it was bonkers…. Really want to ride this 800 at some point.
What about superveloce Ago vs Speed triple 1200 rr -It would be very interesting🙏
BRUTALE !
Great bikes . At 800 cc these bikes are insane but i never like the back ends of thair bikes wish they bring the superviloche style ..
@motobob Can you do a review on the new 2021 Dragster RR SCS alone? Maybe the yellow/gold one too :)
It depends on which one is available. These are difficult to find. I am looking primarily at the " Rosso" models. It's a bit more pricey for the Dragster. I like the bar end mirrors on it. I used to like the Triumph bar end mirrors best but these are better. And the Kineo wheels are cool. But I like the Brutale just a bit more. With Ducati making its new Monster look like a MT07 and being built in Thailand, I think that I would not have an issue with the MV. Yet MV Augusta has to seriously expand its dealership base.
Yea that’s a common problem with MV, the dealerships are very few and far between. The Rosso models are definitely a good way to see how an MV feels. As for your comments on the monster, very true, it’s either stay true to Italian made or why are we paying such a premium. Hope you end up getting an MV, they are a dream bike; but just to be honest, make sure you have a dealer close enough you’re willing to go to because they can need a bit of warranty work sometimes. I have an MV dragster lh44, amazing bikes.
I have the brutale and i am considering the Dragster but you just made reconsider... i need to test drive it and get a feel for it.
so how did u decide? :)
Thanks Bob. Great review. A rider ✅
I'm a rider but the Dragster is still the one I'd buy ;)
U are the best 👍🏻
I love Dragster RC for everything fun.
I love V2’s and triples. Triples with both torque and high rpm character like a v4 but a little rougher(uniqueness). I own a MV Dragster Pirelli edition and a Super Duke. I decided the MV over the Streetfighter V4. SD already the best street bike with torque/horsepower below 9500 rpm. MV is light and is the size of a bicycle. No mods needed as it is perfect. My Black/yellow pops. Great review. MV building great bikes with great warranties. My MV is number 27/200.
Scott, do you feel the sd is ever too much?
@@aka_pierre I did. I had both the 2018 and 2020 and recently sold my 2020. It is by far my favorite street bike, but it's too much and makes me do stupid stuff 😆
I love both to be honest
At 1st I thought that your channel's name is in Cyrillic. I read MOTOVOV, like MOTOVLADIMIR 😁
Just bought a 2018 dragster in grey. The 2021 models are better and I like the TFT and the electronics , but the colors they offer are a bit dull and they are not doing it justice. This is a stand out bike and even if you are not a poser , when you pay that much you want to look at it admire it, it needs to stand out.
I haven't riden the Brutale, but the dragster did not feel like it doesn't want to corner and with a 190/55 rear Tyre I am sure it will be as nimble as the brutale.
Spoked wheels and that tail light is like you are riding f....n Enterprise
And what's wrong in been a poser!!!!!!
Definitely a poser :D! But seriously, this is the review I was looking for. Considering options for 2022...
They made the rear tire rounder on 21 dragster for better cornering/handling. But I guess it’s called dragster for a reason!
You Need the round tire on the Dragster, i‘ve got no tire left in the corners with it
That's a liter bike tire for a reason. Surely the standard Brutale is easier to maneuver for having a smaller and adequately-sized rear tire.
Have Pirelli Diablo Rosso IV Corsa (200/55 rear) and you can chuck the 2019 Dragster 800 RC into corners with confidence. Having a 2019 Kawasaki ZR900(Nitron suspension) is a good learning tool too. 😂
Rider. Looks are only skin deep. It's the riding experience that counts of the life of the bike. Bike could be as ugly as sin but fantastic to ride and makes you feel you're a much better rider, no question about which bike you'd put your hard earned on. Lot of Ducati riders take that view.
so realisticaly, what's the difference between this and something like a kawasaki z900??
The most beautiful bike.
The recluse/smart clutch make these impressive machines for those who want a scooter with some extra performance but without the sound of a motorbike.
What difference does the smart clutch have on the sound of the bike?
LOL, have you not heard the sound of the stock exhaust? No other stock exhaust except Aprilia can beat that. Without even mentioning how incredible it sounds with an aftermarket one...
Or maybe you just poorly worded your sentence
@@brucetaylor7085 The sound is fine. There isn't much volume below 6000rpm but once you rev it beyond that, it's party time. This is fine for me as when I'm commuting and I don't really need the drone of a loud pipe.
Well they ruined the look of the exhaust pipes
Comparing these two bikes aesthetically is like comparing what a beautiful lady looks like with and without make-up xD
Can you add subtitle on your video? I really enjoy it but my english not very too good to catch ur british accent
I've got the 2015 B3 Dragster 800 and its far more committed than the new one, bars are lower, not quite as wide, you're much more leaned forward on it, but still, there is no room to move forward/backward in the seat which does detract from the sportiness of it.
Remove the standard 200/50 rear tyre and spin on a 200/55 or a 200/60 and the bike is actually more flicky and nimble than the Brutale - That turns the Dragster from a posers bike into a riders bike that can also pose for the camera... I am a Dragster Die hard, but my next bike (addition to the stable, not replacing) will be a Brutale 800 RC... Why not have both?
A poser. 🤩
2019 Dragster 800 RC with SC protect exhaust and number 37 paint scheme for added bling.
Bonkers bike. One to have even when down on tech, harsh rear suspension, but better price to value as prices are just for super rich now. 6000km and only exhaust valve(replaced under warranty) and rear brake have failed thus far 😂😂
Bike goes off like a frog in a sock 😊
My favourite Sunday café hop bike 😍
My rear brake gave out on my dragster too, must be a normal thing with them then. How good are they though!
Best
reliable ?
I have a 2022 brutale RR without a doubt an exsiting bike **but** have alot of issues with *0* manufacter support
The official dealer trying to help but mv is mv
What issues?
Oooooooooh that sound
Why is the camera pointing to a talking helmet instead of being pointed to the road
Both mad, can you get the Brutale with spoked wheels?!..🤔
yup just gotta have the cash
You can. MV buy them from Kineo I believe. But they are not cheap.....
imagine cleaning them spokes though
can we add dragster Handlebar on brutale??
No, you can't customize motorcycles.
rider of course!
Dragster Looks so cool.
Don‘t like brutale handlebars, mirrors, Seat
Rider for me. Just prefer the looks.
Reliability and dealer support here on the East coast is the only reason I can’t consider this bike
Me too. It’s unique but goddamn…
What they need to work the most is the after sale service
Dragster with 180 mm rear tire to sort out the handling.
MV 👍
I thought the Brutale was 1000cc, and the Dragster (not exactly the most Italian of names lol) was the 800cc?
The 1000cc dragster is just the big boy verison, the 800cc is the normal one
Brutale is 800. Dragster 1000. And there is Rosso (red) 800.
Japanese bike should have that insane exhaust
Brutale.
Harsh, I like to ride including the track but the dragster …. I guess I m a poseur 😀😀😀
😃😀😀👍🏍🏍🏍🏍
Tripura meh lon ho gi my beat bike plzzzz
brutale
Had the Brutale and test rode a Dragster. That 200 rear tyre affects the handling too much for my liking. Would buy another Brutale again, awesome handling; and that engine. OMG that engine (without the Euro5 stuff)
✅✅✅✅
I'm a rider LOL I still pick the dragster
Power band from 9k rpm onwards..😳😳😳
Rider! I intend to use my bike....not to showoff😁
The Dragster looks great but that seat doesn't give you a lot of wiggle room.
I have a 2021 Dragster lots of fun , but you have to ride it like you stole it.
MV Augusta UK seemingly blissfully unaware that the UK has populated areas and even towns and cities North of Watford. Seriously, what is it with MV and KTM and their dire UK dealership network??
Brutale 1000cc Rush next then, all 208bhp of it......
A rider I own a 2016 brutale
You have to have very deep pockets to be in a position as a private individual to answer that question.
The better one is the one that I can afford.
Dragster 🙋♂️
I am a posser
LOL, you are going to lose your licence so fast with these.
ofc brutale 800
Hi moto bob , i don't like either bike the exhaust is ugly on both of them
海外の田舎って信号がなくて車が少ないから良いね👍🏍🙆♀️
Neither a poser nor a Rider....A broke fella, those are awesome but really expensive
I m both a poser & à rider so will buy both the MV if my wallet allows 😝
Mv bikes are too much expensive in India
I'm not impressed at all by the exhaust note. I've said it before, you buy an MV for exclusivity, you get the same tech for much less money.
Blame Euro5…
2019 Dragster 800RC with SC project exhaust and it sounds like an aggressive and angry sewing machine.
Can be heard 1Km away, popping, banging and screaming with that distinctive three cylinder howl 😂😂
[shouting] It’s bloody loud 😂😂
My original Euro4 factory fitted exhausted sounded pretty good too 👍🏼
Euro 4 dragster has best balance of induction roar and exhaust noise in standard form and above 7k on standard exhaust sounds good for rider,i put SC on mine its very load, you can't hear the lovely induction roar anymore under the tank as exhaust drowns it out, wear earplugs guaranteed hearing damage, and I can't see it getting on trackdays maybe I am wrong, the jury's out on SC for me,only bought SC because I came across RC kit on ebay with dedicated ECU which give additional 10bhp and raises Rev limit 500rpm otherwise I would have bought cheaper QD. My Euro 5 superveloce is quieter in standard spec both on induction and exhaust will research exhaust carefully on SV as I don't want the extreme SC of dragster.
Total lack of mechanical sympathy will always earn you a walk home.
After valimai😂
馬力有多大
MV reliability 🙅🥲
u have one? I heared that 2021+ are reliable
@@nnh-wm8sk No, I don't have it. But I know people who have 2023 models and say it's the same as it always was. engine breaks, electronics fail, battery degrades quickly
Pizza or mashed potatoes which is better? Depends on which you prefer. And everyone's different and has different needs and intentions and purposes so this is a stupid question in the title of this video. Bike reviews These days are either misinformative or copycat of the same 15 bikes every year. Plus all the paid reviews... Keep seeing hundreds of channels reviewing the same old bikes
Very quirky and like the exhaust but wouldn’t buy one as they seem a bit bonkers. KTM are the masters of bonkers 😂😂
these are premium bonkers whereas KTMs are budget bonkers lol
You buy mv for the looks
@@ayushpathania5500 and after sales service plus reliability.
Can't compare the 2 tbh. Ktm is cheap but fun the Mv is on another level
🗣️📢📢📢📢Dragster rr 🙌🙌
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It needed to have more seat padding, 100 miles and your backside is ruined!
Cannot agree on that, many times I have covered a 150 ride out and I am 80🤣🤣
Same. I’ve done 500km+ day rides and seat on 2019 Dragster 800 RC is fine. Rear suspension is a bit harsh on this model, but seat/padding is fine 😁
Poser 😎
Again: learn to pronounce "longitudinally".
The current styling of MV Agusta is simply ridiculous. So overstyled. Why anyone would prefer a Brutale over the Street Triple amazes me. Hope MV Agusta starts focusing on what makes a motorcycle great and not making overcomplicating design bikes
I can definitely see where you’re coming from, I see it, but personally I quite like the styling on these - definitely not subtle, but if you’re going for “fast, sporty, expensive with loud styling” this is a tasteful way of doing it.
@@joedonnelly387 I think you can say exactly the same about Mansory modified cars. Each to its own. But I can recognize the impact of spoke wheels in a road bike for all that have no understanding of what motorcycle dynamics are
Having ridden both, no contest MV every time, from the styling, that is always going to be a personal choice
Sounds like someone is just grumpy cause they can’t afford a Brutale 1000 Nürburgring with Arrow exhaust 😂😂😂
@@brucetaylor7085 Agree MV any day.