The only reason Pacific Rim worked so well is that it didn't try to adapt any existing property, but was instead more of a live-action tribute to the Kaiju and Super Robot genres. And it's unironically one of my favorite movies of the last decade.
I think netflix could make the live actions adaptions work if those chose anime that were more grounded in reality like vinland saga and monster and just toned done whenever a character is over expressive.
For sure. Monster COULD have an incredible live action series. One that could rival Breaking Bad imo. But it could also be terrible. Something that’s already incredible… is the anime. Anime is consumed in the same way as film. It’d be retreading the same ground. That’s why I’m so much more welcoming of adaptations of novels and manga. It’s inherently transformative.
In my humble opinion.. as an artist.. the single biggest reason is vision. The creative team either have the right vision or they don’t. Most of the time, they don’t. Any art is translatable into another medium. It’s proven that anime to live-action can work.. with the right creative team, of course.
It being an adaptation instantly means it's money motivated, a decision most probably made by executives looking at spreadsheets. Nothing inspiring can come off that.
@Exen88 As an artist myself, I agree. What causes many live action anime adaptations to fall flat and fail is the teams behind them DGAF. They're not looking at it from an artistic stand point, but a profitable one. And it's a dang shame, because what studios don't realize is if they hired teams who were genuine fans, and let them make the films, and get proper advertising, they'd make a lot of money. Because good word would spread, which would bring in more consumers. Hell the first ten years of the MCU, Detective Pikachu and the Sonic The Hedgehog movies should've proven that, but the only takeaway studio execs got from those is:"Oh, video game based movies and cinematic universes make money."
I agree but I think live-action anime could work if actual effort was put in. Most live-action anime fail because the directors and writers put in no research and don't understand the series at all. They just change things to change them when it adds nothing to the story and doesn't help it adapt easier. Look at something like Dragonball Evolution, even just skimming the wiki page would tell you how wrong it is. Most anime movies seem like the writers were given nothing but the character names and were told to make a movie out of it.
That's why I loved the Library Wars adaptation. They really improved on the pacing of some arcs and the acting and music were good. The action scenes were very enjoyable as well. I can definitely recommend checking out that story in any version, movies, manga and anime
@Luis Suazo I did watch the video. Anime movies today still do very little research which contributes to them sucking. The change from animation to live action is a big part of it, however, that does not hold us back from getting some good ones.
I am glad one piece made it, I hope netflix continue like this, but just the fact that an anime live adaptation is getting a season 2 is already a great thing 😊
It helps the creators actually LIKE the source material, worked with people involved with the anime, and most importantly…had Oda not just involved but INFLUENCING the direction Compared to say M Night’s Avatar which failed because he approached it to much in attempting to condense and on his own supposed fan involvement instead of the actual show creators or staff
I wonder what everyone thinks about Rurouni Kenshin. I quite liked the live-action adaptation, but I think they had the advantage of having an established style and vocabulary from the long history of samurai films.
i think it's because samurai x doesn't have much exaggerated or unrealistic look characters. unrralistic hair and expressions. also they make it compatible to reality
Scott Pilgrim vs The world, Bullet Train and Dead or Alive 2006 for me deffo feel like a live action anime. Scott Pilgrim is easily the best but i still enjoy those 2
@@ReiseLukas I don't care how well it was adapted, I just absolutely hated everything about it. It's pure style over substance and I loathe that stuff.
The thing is, animation has so many expressive tools that that just don't work when translating it to live action. As the video mentioned, squach and stretch is lost, but techniques like impact frames, the breaking of joints, held frames, smears, stuff that add dynamics and impact to the action are lost Also, if you intend on making a true live action film, then every stunt must be choreographed in a way that a real person can do it, wich limits how crazy they can get. There is also a general loss of control in motion design and silhouette design, wich are essential to good animation, basically the animation team is simplifying the shapes and motion in order for the movement to be more fluid, readable and impactful, something that is very hard to do with an actual human person.
except Alita: Battle Angel did all that and it really wasnt that hard, these directors and producers just don't give anime the respect it deserves, they just want to cut corners and still make a profit
@@reynaaiken4542 And that movie is pretty much a cg animated feature with some famous actors in it. They even changed the eyes of the main actress! At that point just make a fully animated movie. I agree that anime should get more respect, but I just don't think that live action is the way to get there. There is a weird stigma arround animation as if it's somehow lesser than live action, and a even weirder fixation on realism, when the coolest thing about animation (in my opinion) is that it's animated and therefore you can make crazy shit that isn't realistic.
Another reason I thought of while watching this was the colours. There are a lot of scenes in anime that would look horrible in live action if they tried to copy the colours, but if they didn't use the colours it would look too different and end up looking bad anyway. And the shading, take the titans for example, in the live action they had to shade the titans to fit into the scene, but the actual titans aren't that shaded. But if you put the non shaded titans in it would look even worse. Long story short if you copy something into live action it looks bad, and if you don't copy it it ends up looking even worse.
Muted versions of the colors come across really well. I.e. Captain America in the MCU vs the comic version compared to the 1980s version where they used primary colors and a motorcycle helmut.
Alita: Battle Angel is proof that live action anime CAN work. The trick is figuring out WHICH anime needs to be adapted. As long as the original theme of the anime is maintained, pacing is structured, and especially if it features groundbreaking visuals that were never seen before, it WILL work.
Didnt do well enough to get more movies, and the OG Alita manga never even got a full anime. I bet you wouldnt be saying this about Alita if it had. The series itself certainly deserves a full anime, but same as Berserk for some reason no one will touch it. But I cannot see It doing well as live action especially once the story gets going.
I really think it's possible to adapt anime or have a live action series that feels like an animation but for that the producers would have to go crazy and ignore half the rules movies are produced
the line between live action and animation is blurry these days. Id argue that films like many of the MCU movies and avatar are animated movies, but people call them live action. CG is animation.
Nasu I don’t think you understand how talented you are at commentary. Every single point flowing off into the next. Great organization and jokes at perfect spots. Every single video is a gift man 😁🙏🏾
The root of all evil lies in this pervasive, primitive belief in Hollywood that "animation is for children. Serious adults watch real movies with real actors!". They dont take animation nor its audience seriously, because for them, its only serious when its made with REAL PEOPLE. Which is so contradictory, because some of Netflix's highest rated shows ARE animations!! And some of the best I've ever seen! Castlevania, Arcane, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Love Death +Robots...
Part of the issue is they keep going after big name shonen anime. I think a Kare Kano or even a haruhi suzumiya adaptation for Neflix would be SUPER easy to do. That and trying to adapt very very long form methods of storytelling into a 2 to 3 hour movie. It isnt impossible but it is difficult.
I think the problem is not in the live actions themselves, Japan has been doing live-action of their animes and Mangas for ages and so successful. The problem is Netflix try to do Western-washed live-action with little to no respect to their original cultures and very heavily Hollywood CGI with make them have a certain dishonesty quality.
Had to come back to say they finally did it. One Piece is... Well, it's quite good honestly. Also I'm not sure it's fair considering how realistic the base material is, but City Hunter had an excellent movie adaptation by a French guy.
Netflix is like a broken record at this point, people want better shows and a real reason to keep paying for their subscription and they just go "so you want a live action anime adaptation i see..."
I only love Dragon Prince and Cobra Kai on Netflix otherwise I don’t like any of the Netflix series at all, and I wished that Netflix would stop making series like the He-Man remake, shows like Cuties, etc etc.
Dude i agree so much with everything you are saying but this year we got some stuff that weirdly worked...weirdly the One piece Netflix show is one of them. I'd love to hear your thoughts on when it does work (as much as ido prefer the animated stuff)
As a anime fan, all of us can agree that live action anime is hilariously stupid. Especially the wigs- Also animation is suppose to be animation FOR A REASON. It gives the artist the chance to do stuff that you would never be able to recreate in realistic form or it will look trash. Like PLSSSS NO 😭
Great video, i loved the scenes used. But i only half agree, even though i agree that certain aspects are unadaptable and that's what gives the medium value, i don't think that makes a translation impossible and i don't think it's just money hunt, in the same way that anime is not. People were always curious to see how those stories would look like with real people and movement; and we already have a successful adaptation, Edge of Tomorrow. They're just approaching the wrong way, visuals, actions and battles are not the only appeal of anime, a lot of times it's not the main appeal even in action series (like HxH). Many series trump on being thought provoking. Studios just need to start taking something like Psycho Pass and Monster and do a Dark Knight version. Not that it should be super realistic or even faithful just take those main plots and put on a more credible scenario. Hero movies, and recently Sandman, prove you can do this. Harry Potter is another example of how you can make the absurd astonishing.
watch tokusatsu. it has the shoe string budget of a kids show (because it is), but it manages to bring an anime sort of visual flair and i personally find it amazing. yes the cgi is Terrible, but the way they use the terrible brand of cgi to add to the action is good imo
Netflix may have over a million dollars going into each episode, and they may have Oda advising them on what to do, but there is absolutely no way they are making Luffy's goofy ahh fruit look good in live action.
So it turns out that Netflix actually did a pretty decent job with One Piece overall. Perfection? Nope. Some mistakes were definitely made along the way in terms of cutting down the story, awkward costumes and even some CGI, but overall, I find that a lot of non-weebs actually ended up really enjoying it. Positive reviews outnumber the bad ones by far. This was not the series that should have worked out for live-action, and yet it somehow defied the odds.
The 5 Rurouni Kenshin movies, Death Note, the 2 Japanese Death Note movies worked. Netflix adaptations don't always work but the 2 Netflix made Rurouni Kenshin movies worked wonderfully.
In my opinion, I think Live action only works for some anime that doesn't have a lot of crazy super powers or supernatural things. For example, the live action of "Erased". I watched the both the anime and the live action and I'll say its pretty good, but if not good I'll say pretty decent. However, I watched the live action first before watching the anime... Why? (lol I didn't know there was a anime of "Erased" at the time.)
I just start watching the first few minutes of the video and I can't stop laughing at how relatable your frustrations are towards live action anime adaptations.
I think another reason it translates poorly is "correctness". Anime often adopts the absurd, in both characters and their viewpoints, but western media keeps trying to sanitize such things, which can dull villains, make MC's bland and often miss comedic irony in the source(like the AtLA adaption ending missed the point that Aang called his Kaiju moment beforehand without understanding relevance, instead subbing giant wave forms thinking "awesome power of the ocean".)
One thing most people sleep on HARD is the rurouni kenshin live adaptations on netflix. These movies as their own standalone series absolutely slap, the story is oddly paced but the action, costumes, and characterization are godly. If you wanna see a pretty decent live adaptation of an already pretty damn good anime and manga, go watch all three rorouni kenshin movies on netflix, the last part just came out last year I believe
This is what I’m saying. Sure, it takes a level of care about creating a world and putting that work and time into making it look good, but that’s worth it when the adaptation is a genuine piece of art! Speed Racer was a passion project and it SHOWS. It may not be a perfect movie but you cannot deny that the Wachowskis had full confidence in their vision and executed it immaculately. I’d give anything to see them make something else in that world, whether it be a TV show or another movie, just as long as they put enough effort into the visuals as they did in the first movie.
I think Netflix successfully adapted Alice in Borderland. Although it was originally from a manga, not an anime, but still survival concept is somewhat realistic. That live action show tbh, it was marvellous 👌
“My country the new age” is a Korean live action soap opera/adventure show on Netflix. It was okay. But it felt like I was watching an anime. So I thought to myself, “Why can’t they make anime remakes like this?” Then I realized. It’s already a live action show. So I don’t have the previous input of an anime to base it off of. It’s easier to make an live action show feels like an anime than it is to change the medium, I think. If I had been an anime first - maybe the show would have missed the mark. Just a thought. Probably will not see the tu tu hakusho reimagining.
"Holy shit another banger" - these were my sons last words before falling victim to a stroke being forced to relive the earth bending scene from the live action ATLA movie. Unfortunately, Blugil only made it 1 minute and 29 seconds into the video before dying almost instantly but he knew it would be a banger like always
The animators were told to pick one scene to work on and leave the rest. By the way, the producers by the name of Frank Marshal & Kathleen Kennedy called the shots, not the writers or the directors, why do you think that everything they touch recently, including Last Airbender, has been nothing but shit. And why else would M. Night never work with them again? Including every other writer & director that refused them. By the way, grow up. The film wasn't that bad, Two Girls 1 Cup is still the reigning champ of shit cinema. It exists, has a different name, and is worse than Traci Lords' early film career.
Edge of Tomorrow is hands down my favourite manga-inspired film. Seen it like 5 times. It's so good without having any manga-esque cringe vibes. It just takes an awesome plot and concept and makes a banger hollywood film out of it. A shining example of how these adaptations should be made.
Library Wars is another excellent live action adaptation. You don't need to read the manga to enjoy the movies and the action scenes were really good as well as the music and also the acting. I've watched that trilogy multiple times, and read the manga, and watched the anime. Each version is slightly different but I still love it
Erased is really good. It’s the one live action I actually sometimes prefer. Because it changed the ending and showed just how evil that bad guy actually was.
@@RandoLePerson Someone recommend Blade of Immortal to me too. Its on my list. Will watch it when I can. Thanks! Saw Gantz and yes I agree. Its awesome how they manage to make it that good!
Another great live action was the Live action version of Crying Freeman. Because the locations they chose to shoot at were all ways interesting, and a good fit for the story. I think that there's a lot of room for live action adaptations of Crime/thriller anime. And I'd love to see some ambitious directors try their hand at psychological horror.
The series is much better than the live action movie. I agree, it's one of the best live action adaptations to date. I also enjoyed the Tokyo Revengers live action, which is basically a cross between Erased and Crows Zero.
I think another point of live action adaptations are for "non anime fans". There's still a lot of people that refuse to watch Anime purely due to it being animated. And it can also explain why they're often terrible, bc they try to make it more palatable to people who don't know anime. Guess it must do well enough bc they keep happening even though they're usually terrible.
so, they are basically not caring about the actual quality of the original material they are adapting and just doing it bc it will drive money for their companie's owners and shareholders and ask the people who are actually doing it to try to make something good despite the fact that it defenetly wont be bc the original material itself was constructed within the media of animation a bunch of greedy pigs if u ask me
Why even try to make something that they know won't work for their intended audience only to be forced to change it and end up pleasing nobody? The times that live-action anime works are so few that it makes little sense to even try.
@@Ethan-zv2xt i doubt they will, just doing this shit costs very little in comparison to what they make, they have already solidified themselves a sa mainstream streaming platform so they can push out garbage and still have the money flowing in
Tbf i would do the same thing, would you rather waste millions on an original project you have no idea will succeed, or just remake an ip with an existing consumer base. We sort of fund this bs.
The Rurouni Kenshin movies are an exception. They were critically acclaimed by both the reviews and the audience and I must say they were amazing films. From the cast to the coreography and music, everything was very well made and it almost never felt out of place. Some say it nearly surpasses the source material. I didn't watch the anime yet, so I can't say anything. But the movies are definitely worth a watch.
@@yoga5631 I hated that movie and would have fallen asleep if I wasn't watching in 4D. The chair literally jolted me awake. At one point we considered leaving the cinema If I had to pick the best live action adaptation it would have to be Library Wars
I feel like Death Note is one of the few popular anime which could lend itself well to live action, but would require pretty strict adherence to its plot, writing and characters. But at that point, you may as well just watch the original (except in the case of introducing these stories to a wider audience who isn't as familiar with anime).
The japanese warner made a pretty decent live action movies. They did a few changes but they all were consistent with the essence of the story and some even better( for example, the way naomi misora is killed, is actually more believable and realistic for how her character is presented, than light talking her into giving him her real name in like a 15 minutes walk)
@@galacticandromeda it is not, is a pretty good adaptation with good actors that manages to respect the message and point of the manga, the ending is closer to the manga than the anime and with a difference that is actually better because mello and near were always very unnecessary as main characters( i mean, 90% fans just lost interest once it was not l vs light, and with reason). And as i said, the deal with naomi misora was better handled. Misa was also given some more depth, cause i love death note but i have to admit the authors suck at writing female characters, that's a reality.
As someone who thinks the Death Note anime was crap, boring and not half as smart as it would like you to think, and as someone who has seen every single version to have ever come out (the only series that I hate-watch), I think the 2015 JDrama was the best version. I hated Light and L the least in that version and I think it improved on the stuff that happened after L's death
Another major problem (one more common when non-Japanese studios try to do live-action anime adaptations) is that we, the fans of the original anime, are often not the target audience. The amount of people in America who streamed a show on Crunchyroll on the same day of the week it aired just isn't enough to make a Hollywood movie profitable, so they need to aim for a larger crowd that isn't as familiar with the source material. There will be a lot of creative licenses taken to try and make it work in the new format that will especially annoy those of us who are and loved it the way it was.
There is another big problem with anime adaptations, specifically in the West, which are the cultural components that are fundamental to the Manga and Anime genre. Just like superhero comics are an American tradition built specifically off the history and culture, the same goes for anime and manga. And it isn't just the obviously Asian cultural references that are lost, it is also the non Asian cultural references that are remixed and fused into a unique amalgam that is unique on its own. And because of that, most western studios just look at the stories in a mostly superficial way and therefore lose most of the underlying tropes and cliches, plus other genre specific idioms that make these things work. A very obvious example of all of this is Ghost in the Shell where they completely miss the point that the world the story is set in is based on Japan being the leading nation after a disastrous international war (basically a riff off Japan being a technology powerhouse in the 80s and 90s). Another example is the obsessive nature of Japanese cram schools and students obsessing over getting good grades on college entrance exams in Death Note. Such a story depends heavily on that Japanese specific cultural reference that it falls flat when transported to a Western setting. Or the fact that most shonen manga heros are variations on the archetype of the Monkey King from journey to the west, fighting against the gods and fate itself to become the ultimate fighter or hero. As far as the reason why Japanese live action production falters is due to the fact that the Japanese entertainment industry does not spend hundreds of millions of dollars on movies. That is just not part of their culture. So of course many of the live action anime often lack the polish and sophistication that one would expect from a western production. However, one area where you can see these things put to best use combining the best of both worlds is video games and one very good recent example is Elden Ring, where they have the fancy visuals, plus the zany far out imagination of Japanese creators on display. So even though it is heavily based on Western medieval history and high fantasy, there is no mistaking its distinctively Asian elements and twists on those concepts.
Attack on Titan was adapted in Japan. I couldn't believe how the entire established world was tossed aside and reset in Japan. No regard to how relevent the world and cultures are to the characters and story. Mikasa becomes irrelevant immediately.
Hey 👋🏻 i thought this was super interesting, could you go into more detail on realizing the Japanese creative influence on Elden Ring? What aspects were specifically japanese?
@@jayhassan976 Mostly in the world building, meaning the over the top way the medieval elements are combined. Not to mention there are samauri elements in the game. I would say in some ways it is their creative interpretation of Western Medieval fantasy. Many of those elements being a staple of FromSoft games for many years.
Anime will rarely work as live action, and the same could be said of video game movies, for same reasons you’ve described. But at least for video games there’s more flexibility in adapting it
Video games definitely. Aside from games like Uncharted that are basically just playable movies, how you interact with video games and how you interact with film are very different
True dat, The Detective Pikachu movie was a shockingly good film because the director chose to adapt the game which had a more grounded story than the anime
I read this comment right when the gideo started talking about squash and stretch. It reminded me exactly why One Piece is one of the worst anime to try to make live action. The main charater's ability is literally squashing and stretching, which animation has perfected for nearly 100 years now.
I though the cowboy bebop live action would have been fine if it was just a buddy cop movie with Spike and jet and show their adventures before Faye before the Julia and Vicious storyline from the anime. This could have worked if they actually involved the creator and have him say what type of bounties they had in the past.
Animation can work as a live action, but you need to chose the right anime. Something like Steamboy could work easily. Ghost in the Shell if they had stuck to the story looked picture perfect. Pacific Rim is proof of concept that you could make a live action Gundam film. That being said, Alita is about as perfect an adaptation as you could ask for.
it's also u need characters that aren't so exaggerated. that's why most r do cringe the only live adaptation that was really good is Scott pilgrim cause it embraced what it was. Kensington also was OK cause it's just samurai but the cringe from exaggerated characters ruined some scenes which is y Kensington was less carttoonty
I just never understand why they adapt such fantastical anime. There are a million different slice-of-life shows out there just waiting to be made into American teenage dramas for super cheap but they want to do Sci-fi and fantasy
They literally just look up “top 10 anime by viewership” and think they can cash in. Shonen will simply just never work. At most I could see maybe attack on titan
Slice of life are easy so most of em are made into tv with low cost production..but geddemit they are the one that works!! Many amazing titles I've watched
The main reason anime to live-Action that I say doesn’t work is because the writers and director don’t know the source material well enough. Look at Pokémon detective pikachu which is both anime and video game. It worked well because you can tell there was a lot of effort, knowledge, and lore that the creators knew. It also was based on a not well known video game. I think it’s important to pick the right anime or create a storyline that revolves around the world of it. For example, if they are adapting naruto. I say start with a side story or keep the essence of it and similar story beats. Just change the fight scenes to make it more new but similar
Detective Pikachu doesn't have anything to do with the anime, though. It works mainly because it's just a world inhabited by Pokemon and doesn't try to adapt the anime art style of the games.
Wasn't the Bleach Live Action passable? Though may get tricky with the later arcs... Then again a few of the actors were also in a good Kamen Rider so they know how to play shonen style characters.
I'm still going to give One Piece live action a shot because I'm a fan and i've been following the cast and producers and they all seem to put a lot of effort into this project plus the budget is huge for an anime adaptation but I know that whatever the outcome, not everyone is going to be happy.
A One Piece live action would most likely not work. There is just simply too much source material to cover. The manga itself has more than 1,000 chapters and it still is not even close to finishing. there is no way that couple be condensed down into a 2 hour timeframe.
@@NomadicWanderer11 obviously most live action movies can’t cover the whole source materiel of a manga unless it’s very short I’d image they just take the characters and make a movie that doesn’t follow the source materiel or cover 1 arc
@@NomadicWanderer11 It's a 10 episode season most likely 40 mins to an hour long each, and it covers the first 100 chapters (East Blue). It's been calculated that they'll be able to cover it without any issue as well if they cut some unnecessary moments
I don't know why Netflix doesn't try to adapt stuff more along the lines of murder misteries with lesser scify or fantasy elements , like a series like Psycho Pass would work really well if they can make the guns and the gore look half decent
In my personal opinion, i never understood the appeal of Disney and Anime/Manga live-action adaptations. Sure when it’s done right like Speed Racer, Rurouni Kenshin, Alita, Gintama and Bleach it can be good of course, but most of the time it just doesn’t work. I think that one of the biggest reasons that these stories work really well is because they are animated. Animation is one of the most important art forms ever created. With animation, you can really do anything compared to live-action. It's just this open medium where anything you can think of and anything you can create, you can make. The limits are budget and willpower. What i'm trying to say is: Live-Action adaptations of Animated movies and shows are super unecessary. There’s too much live-action already. If anything, they should have used the money for more experimental and interesting long form animation both as series and movies instead. We need more of this kind of stuff imo.
@@johnlawful2272 You've got the answer right there, dude. Its AAAALL the writers + directors fault. It has nothing to do with "anime doesnt translate well to movies". What about Disney, then?? They're MORE ridiculous than ANY anime so that opinion is moot. Go hire ANY Master-grade directors AND a good writer, you can bet it'll HIT big just like ANY movie in ANY genre no matter how ridiculous it is. Its all in the script + directors hands from the storytelling and cinematography.
Some western corporate bureaucrat that one saw his kid watching some cartoon he did not recognize, and after sexual harassing an actress during lunch break, he had his 2pm "creative reunion" and said "the chinks have tons of IP we could reap for cheap" and everybody clapped, thinking he was serious and called the VFX departments full of geeks happy to work on whatever big manga/anime they heard so they said yes. Or not, who knows, but I'm kinda sure the first half is true though.
Now hol' up a minute. Cowboy Bebop _could_ have been a great live action show, mostly because it was fairly grounded (in the sense of a sci-fi) and didn't fall into typical wackiness/over-animation of typical anime/cartoons. The reason that the Cowboy Bebop live action failed was entirely on the shitty writers behind the project that gave no respect to the source material... which is honestly a common problem with a lot of modern Hollywood adaptations *cough* HALO *cough* Resident Evil *cough* Rings of Power *cough* And the reason I know Cowboy Bebop could have actually been good... is because Firefly exists and is considered a critically acclaimed cult classic (along with its movie sequel Serenity). River Tam is just an anime character thrown into a live action Sci-fi Western and you can't tell me otherwise lmaoooo
Hey, hey HEY!!!! Hands off of Firefly and it's associated movie Serenity. As for your RIver Tam statement, her exceptional abilities where teased in the show. I've little doubt that, had the series not been so brief, said special abilities would have been manifested in a less spectacular, bombastic....less over the top way.
I think the one big exception might be Speed Racer. Not everyone loves that movie, but it is extremely cohesive and confident in how it threads the needle with bringing animation energy and pacing to live action.
It sort of helps that the specific ways Speed Racer were adapted made it ok, they piled on the spectacle in driving which works especially in Speed Racer, and it was released at a time where people would not recognize Speed Racer was one of the earliest anime.
Haven't seen that one! That was actually the first anime I ever watched back in the 90s. Even my uncle who is extremely picky about, well... Everything in life & has no interest in anime, had actually seen it and enjoyed it when growing up.
I feel like Live Action, especially when it comes to Disney properties, only exists because Cartoons and / or Anime is considered to be "too childish" by some people.
Unfortunately. That thought gotta be held by people that never bother to even try watching animation. Cause even the ones that ARE for kids can very well entertain adults. The Incredibles is undoubtedly a kids movie, but still deals with some heavy themes that will resonate with an older audience
That's what pisses me off the most. I just remembered Hollywood's statement about animation in the Oscars 2022. According to them, animation is something that's only for kids and all the adults have to endure it. I apologize for the swearing, but that's complete bullshit! Animation is for everyone and that's a fact.
@@NasuPrime The Incredibles is one of my favorite movies ever, animated or not. In the movie commentary, director Brad Bird made a statement that animation is not a genre. Is a medium that is and can be for everyone. That guy's a legend.
I think that's why I like tokusatsu so much, it's because the way the fight's actually fit the medium they're presented in You could never get the kind of crazy angles in live action, but you can at least stylize the filming and perspectives enough to emote something more
tbh i’m not against the idea of live action anime provided it’s less like whatever Netflix is doing and more like that cutie honey and sailor moon’s tokus
Rurouni Kenshin adaptations continue to get better witch each release, they trying different filming aproachs, to resemble more the source, and while they are not perfect, they are pretty enjoyable to watch.
Yeah, it's one of the few I'd say has an adaptation I don't despise, but the creator being exposed for stuff I don't even want to mention makes me want to pirate it. Outside of acting on it, that's the worst thing a person could ever do (imo anyway).
@@TheZephyrsWind also, we dont know for sure men, like think of all the times, celebritys have been charged with tons of child pornography... like if you want to frame or shade someone that is the easiest possible way to do it. how on earth do they get a hold of their computers in the first place, and at that time they could just easily plant it there...
@@TheZephyrsWind on the other hand, that'd also be punishing everyone else involved who didn't do horrible things, so pirating for that reason is a mixed bag.
From what I get, this year's Bullet Train is based off of a Japanese novel called Maria Beetle, and it looks to be one of this year's most entertaining movies. Hopefully it does well, because I'd be interested in seeing more adaptations like that.
I really enjoyed it tbh. It wasn’t as funny as I expected but I thought the premise was pretty cool and the characters had a nice chemistry together. I felt like I was watching a toned down version of jojo
@@diegogonzalezvazq I feel like its too weird to attract a big audience, on one hand, its too gory for people kids that would like action comedy films, on the other it might be too goofy for people that enjoy violence? I personally do not like too much gore so I cringe a bit at several bloody scenes and I feel like even though they manage to string together the entire plot, I left theater bewildered because I felt like the entire thing is too bizarre. I can't say it's a bad film, but I can say that its not for me.
@@Jay9966 so you would say that the film was somewhat bizarre?? Sort of like a certain collection of adventures? That’s my point the film has its appeal. Look at how many people watch jojos. It is exactly the same
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I gotta ask you this, what about Netflix's *"Alice in Borderland"* ? Because that show was actually an Anime first before it became Live Action. And honestly, Alice in Borderland is really like one of those rare situations were an adaptation actually does well, even if the story is average.
Speed Racer deserves a mention though. Direct adaption, actually created by fans of anime, tons of heart, fantastic movement and bright colors that work. Anime in live action *can* work, it simply has to come from a dedicated team that loves the medium of animation.
I think it depends on the anime, a live adaptation of Hajime no Ippo would work, the point of the fights is the backstories of the fighters not the jet stream sound effects, if they do it right it could definitely work
Actually the state and quality of CGI in current MCU projects lately is really making a good case for why the source material is probably better suited to animation!
I think the problem isn't that live action anime will never work, but instead that the people tasked with bringing the anime to live action rarely see the reality within its cartoon nature. At the same time they rarely capture the soul of the work when making it "real" which is always the most important part.
Yeah why they go for the most ridiculous shows is beyond me. And they can't even do it well in the slightest. There are better fan films out there like all the Naruto recreations
I hate how people think that animation is for kids and that the real deal is Hollywood or at least that’s what Hollywood want people to think if nobody is thinking it, but I know some people do. Some of the best shows and movies I’ve ever seen were animation flat out
I think you hit the mark with every point however, I think some anime/manga could be adapted if it’s more grounded in realism & if those partaking in the adaption fully respect as well as understand the genre/art form. You can almost always tell they don’t like or watch the source material, & make hair pulling head scratching changes that involve everything from white washing to changing key characteristics that make the character them. I agree I wish they’d just stop I’m yet to see one that’s really good therefore making a case for more adaptations💯
The only good live action anime from Netflix is Rouroni Kenshin, yeah the hair styles are off putting but the story and action is phenomenal. When I watched it, I didn't even know that it was based off an anime, now it's one of my favorite foreign films. Outside of that, live action adaptations of animated properties need to stop! Live action works for complex dramas and character study, and animation works for bringing worlds to life that wouldn't be explored unless CGI is used.
I think once the story is grounded in reality then it could be adapted. Library Wars was an excellent adaptation But Chinese fantasy dramas are adapted from novels and they're way better than the source material so a good team can do anything
I often do have the question of "what would this anime look like in real life?" but never because i want a live action adaptation. I just like tossing the idea around in my head, wondering how gross and terrifying it'd be to be stuck in the maw of a titan, wondering how 3d maneuver gear functions, wanting to understand the heft and feel of their blades. but that's something I wonder out of personal curiosity, not because I want the story ripped out of it's original artistic vision the way these live action adaptations do
The only reason Pacific Rim worked so well is that it didn't try to adapt any existing property, but was instead more of a live-action tribute to the Kaiju and Super Robot genres. And it's unironically one of my favorite movies of the last decade.
Sounds like my love for Pride & Prejudice Zombies! Great movie, greatly under appreciated
Now I would watch a Movie that pays Tribute to the Magical Girl Genre, by an Indy Dicrector who grew up watching Precure or Ojomajō Doremi.
@@conradojavier7547 Sucker Punch maybe? 🤔
I think netflix could make the live actions adaptions work if those chose anime that were more grounded in reality like vinland saga and monster and just toned done whenever a character is over expressive.
For sure. Monster COULD have an incredible live action series. One that could rival Breaking Bad imo. But it could also be terrible. Something that’s already incredible… is the anime. Anime is consumed in the same way as film. It’d be retreading the same ground. That’s why I’m so much more welcoming of adaptations of novels and manga. It’s inherently transformative.
@@NasuPrime Should’ve mentioned some of the positives
They already showed with death note, that they effectively suck at making a live action even with a more reality based anime with less cgi needed.
@@NasuPrime Guillermo Del Toro was actually set to do exactly that, but plans fell through.
Yeah. Those could actually work. Cowboy Bebop, One Piece and Yu Yu Hakusho? NO!
In my humble opinion.. as an artist.. the single biggest reason is vision. The creative team either have the right vision or they don’t. Most of the time, they don’t.
Any art is translatable into another medium. It’s proven that anime to live-action can work.. with the right creative team, of course.
Please give us some examples of anime to live-action that actually work.
It being an adaptation instantly means it's money motivated, a decision most probably made by executives looking at spreadsheets.
Nothing inspiring can come off that.
Speed racer
@Exen88
As an artist myself, I agree. What causes many live action anime adaptations to fall flat and fail is the teams behind them DGAF. They're not looking at it from an artistic stand point, but a profitable one.
And it's a dang shame, because what studios don't realize is if they hired teams who were genuine fans, and let them make the films, and get proper advertising, they'd make a lot of money. Because good word would spread, which would bring in more consumers.
Hell the first ten years of the MCU, Detective Pikachu and the Sonic The Hedgehog movies should've proven that, but the only takeaway studio execs got from those is:"Oh, video game based movies and cinematic universes make money."
The Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan TV drama and the Alice in Borderland Netflix series. Both of them were fantastic
I agree but I think live-action anime could work if actual effort was put in. Most live-action anime fail because the directors and writers put in no research and don't understand the series at all. They just change things to change them when it adds nothing to the story and doesn't help it adapt easier. Look at something like Dragonball Evolution, even just skimming the wiki page would tell you how wrong it is. Most anime movies seem like the writers were given nothing but the character names and were told to make a movie out of it.
That's why I loved the Library Wars adaptation. They really improved on the pacing of some arcs and the acting and music were good. The action scenes were very enjoyable as well. I can definitely recommend checking out that story in any version, movies, manga and anime
@Luis Suazo I did watch the video. Anime movies today still do very little research which contributes to them sucking. The change from animation to live action is a big part of it, however, that does not hold us back from getting some good ones.
alice in borderland is really good tho
The Japanese live action death note worked good too
@@lightdarksoul2097 No.
I am glad one piece made it, I hope netflix continue like this, but just the fact that an anime live adaptation is getting a season 2 is already a great thing 😊
It helps the creators actually LIKE the source material, worked with people involved with the anime, and most importantly…had Oda not just involved but INFLUENCING the direction
Compared to say M Night’s Avatar which failed because he approached it to much in attempting to condense and on his own supposed fan involvement instead of the actual show creators or staff
No need for live action you american
I wonder what everyone thinks about Rurouni Kenshin. I quite liked the live-action adaptation, but I think they had the advantage of having an established style and vocabulary from the long history of samurai films.
It's goated. I actually liked it more than the og anime and the manga.
i think it's because samurai x doesn't have much exaggerated or unrealistic look characters. unrralistic hair and expressions. also they make it compatible to reality
5:03 still better choreography than any live anime adaption
any idea what song was playing?
@@hicham12ful Stronger than You
@@hicham12ful any language of sans stronger than you
FR THO
Scot Pilgrim vs The World to me is a example of a live action adaptation done right
I would even better than the comic
Scott Pilgrim vs The world, Bullet Train and Dead or Alive 2006 for me deffo feel like a live action anime. Scott Pilgrim is easily the best but i still enjoy those 2
One of the worst movies I've ever seen
@@Burns_RED Well that's just your opinion. Edgar Wright did amazing job with it.
@@ReiseLukas I don't care how well it was adapted, I just absolutely hated everything about it. It's pure style over substance and I loathe that stuff.
The thing is, animation has so many expressive tools that that just don't work when translating it to live action. As the video mentioned, squach and stretch is lost, but techniques like impact frames, the breaking of joints, held frames, smears, stuff that add dynamics and impact to the action are lost
Also, if you intend on making a true live action film, then every stunt must be choreographed in a way that a real person can do it, wich limits how crazy they can get. There is also a general loss of control in motion design and silhouette design, wich are essential to good animation, basically the animation team is simplifying the shapes and motion in order for the movement to be more fluid, readable and impactful, something that is very hard to do with an actual human person.
except Alita: Battle Angel did all that and it really wasnt that hard, these directors and producers just don't give anime the respect it deserves, they just want to cut corners and still make a profit
@@reynaaiken4542 And that movie is pretty much a cg animated feature with some famous actors in it. They even changed the eyes of the main actress! At that point just make a fully animated movie.
I agree that anime should get more respect, but I just don't think that live action is the way to get there. There is a weird stigma arround animation as if it's somehow lesser than live action, and a even weirder fixation on realism, when the coolest thing about animation (in my opinion) is that it's animated and therefore you can make crazy shit that isn't realistic.
Another reason I thought of while watching this was the colours. There are a lot of scenes in anime that would look horrible in live action if they tried to copy the colours, but if they didn't use the colours it would look too different and end up looking bad anyway. And the shading, take the titans for example, in the live action they had to shade the titans to fit into the scene, but the actual titans aren't that shaded. But if you put the non shaded titans in it would look even worse. Long story short if you copy something into live action it looks bad, and if you don't copy it it ends up looking even worse.
Muted versions of the colors come across really well. I.e. Captain America in the MCU vs the comic version compared to the 1980s version where they used primary colors and a motorcycle helmut.
Alita: Battle Angel is proof that live action anime CAN work. The trick is figuring out WHICH anime needs to be adapted. As long as the original theme of the anime is maintained, pacing is structured, and especially if it features groundbreaking visuals that were never seen before, it WILL work.
Alita is awesome
Didnt do well enough to get more movies, and the OG Alita manga never even got a full anime. I bet you wouldnt be saying this about Alita if it had. The series itself certainly deserves a full anime, but same as Berserk for some reason no one will touch it. But I cannot see It doing well as live action especially once the story gets going.
ngl I think Alita is hella overrated. It's pretty terribly paced and bloated. Felt contrived and amateurish, especially the way it ended.
Alita battle angel was pretty good
The live action ruroni Kenshin movie series were amazing
I really think it's possible to adapt anime or have a live action series that feels like an animation but for that the producers would have to go crazy and ignore half the rules movies are produced
the line between live action and animation is blurry these days. Id argue that films like many of the MCU movies and avatar are animated movies, but people call them live action. CG is animation.
You should try 20th century boys live action trilogy moviees if you like psychological thriller
Nasu I don’t think you understand how talented you are at commentary. Every single point flowing off into the next. Great organization and jokes at perfect spots. Every single video is a gift man 😁🙏🏾
Much appreciated!
The root of all evil lies in this pervasive, primitive belief in Hollywood that "animation is for children. Serious adults watch real movies with real actors!". They dont take animation nor its audience seriously, because for them, its only serious when its made with REAL PEOPLE.
Which is so contradictory, because some of Netflix's highest rated shows ARE animations!! And some of the best I've ever seen! Castlevania, Arcane, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Love Death +Robots...
Part of the issue is they keep going after big name shonen anime. I think a Kare Kano or even a haruhi suzumiya adaptation for Neflix would be SUPER easy to do. That and trying to adapt very very long form methods of storytelling into a 2 to 3 hour movie. It isnt impossible but it is difficult.
I think the problem is not in the live actions themselves, Japan has been doing live-action of their animes and Mangas for ages and so successful. The problem is Netflix try to do Western-washed live-action with little to no respect to their original cultures and very heavily Hollywood CGI with make them have a certain dishonesty quality.
5:25. It is fire and the definitive way to adapt animation to live action. These guys get it
One piece made it 🙏🏽 it was the most successful thing they made in years
Had to come back to say they finally did it. One Piece is... Well, it's quite good honestly.
Also I'm not sure it's fair considering how realistic the base material is, but City Hunter had an excellent movie adaptation by a French guy.
Netflix is like a broken record at this point, people want better shows and a real reason to keep paying for their subscription and they just go "so you want a live action anime adaptation i see..."
I only love Dragon Prince and Cobra Kai on Netflix otherwise I don’t like any of the Netflix series at all, and I wished that Netflix would stop making series like the He-Man remake, shows like Cuties, etc etc.
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my nigga have you heard of practical effects a john carpenter kuro sensei would go HARD AF
Kung-fu hustle is a good movie. Cartoon humor and great fight. Felt like a anime
4:33 yo I forgot they went this hard with Madara holy hell🤯😤
Pain’s fight deserved better
Alita Battle Angel is underrated for actually not sucking.
Dude i agree so much with everything you are saying but this year we got some stuff that weirdly worked...weirdly the One piece Netflix show is one of them. I'd love to hear your thoughts on when it does work (as much as ido prefer the animated stuff)
No idea why but that "I rest my case" meme at the end had me in stitches wtf.
As a anime fan, all of us can agree that live action anime is hilariously stupid. Especially the wigs-
Also animation is suppose to be animation FOR A REASON. It gives the artist the chance to do stuff that you would never be able to recreate in realistic form or it will look trash. Like PLSSSS NO 😭
It's really the wigs!!! Like bruh we know dang well if someone walked around with Goku hair it's going to look silly 😅
All?? For you maybe cuz I've watched many good ones..yes without the wigs 🤣🤣
@@faieziabubakar207 that’s true I’m not gonna lie. For some reason I enjoyed the live action kakegurui a lot 😭😭😭
@@_z1pporah nothing to be ashamed about..wotakoi was super fun
Rurouni Kenshin's live action is pretty amazing. >.>
Great video, i loved the scenes used. But i only half agree, even though i agree that certain aspects are unadaptable and that's what gives the medium value, i don't think that makes a translation impossible and i don't think it's just money hunt, in the same way that anime is not. People were always curious to see how those stories would look like with real people and movement; and we already have a successful adaptation, Edge of Tomorrow.
They're just approaching the wrong way, visuals, actions and battles are not the only appeal of anime, a lot of times it's not the main appeal even in action series (like HxH). Many series trump on being thought provoking. Studios just need to start taking something like Psycho Pass and Monster and do a Dark Knight version. Not that it should be super realistic or even faithful just take those main plots and put on a more credible scenario. Hero movies, and recently Sandman, prove you can do this. Harry Potter is another example of how you can make the absurd astonishing.
Great video but also I LAUGHED SO HARD at that freeze frame of Sauske
Speed racer had that anime-like movement and fluidity too. It can be done, but too expensive I think for a show.
watch tokusatsu. it has the shoe string budget of a kids show (because it is), but it manages to bring an anime sort of visual flair and i personally find it amazing. yes the cgi is Terrible, but the way they use the terrible brand of cgi to add to the action is good imo
Netflix may have over a million dollars going into each episode, and they may have Oda advising them on what to do, but there is absolutely no way they are making Luffy's goofy ahh fruit look good in live action.
It’s over 20 million according to rumors. A million is nothing nowadays. That’s like a CW show budget
@@zigsteenine8650CW 🤢
@@zigsteenine8650 at least it'll be hilarious to watch.
So it turns out that Netflix actually did a pretty decent job with One Piece overall. Perfection? Nope. Some mistakes were definitely made along the way in terms of cutting down the story, awkward costumes and even some CGI, but overall, I find that a lot of non-weebs actually ended up really enjoying it. Positive reviews outnumber the bad ones by far. This was not the series that should have worked out for live-action, and yet it somehow defied the odds.
The 5 Rurouni Kenshin movies, Death Note, the 2 Japanese Death Note movies worked. Netflix adaptations don't always work but the 2 Netflix made Rurouni Kenshin movies worked wonderfully.
Netflix: Ohhhh ok. We saw this and completely understand. You want a live-action Overlord adaptation.
In my opinion, I think Live action only works for some anime that doesn't have a lot of crazy super powers or supernatural things. For example, the live action of "Erased". I watched the both the anime and the live action and I'll say its pretty good, but if not good I'll say pretty decent. However, I watched the live action first before watching the anime... Why?
(lol I didn't know there was a anime of "Erased" at the time.)
Someone needs to show this guy one piece live action 🥴
I just start watching the first few minutes of the video and I can't stop laughing at how relatable your frustrations are towards live action anime adaptations.
I think another reason it translates poorly is "correctness".
Anime often adopts the absurd, in both characters and their viewpoints, but western media keeps trying to sanitize such things, which can dull villains, make MC's bland and often miss comedic irony in the source(like the AtLA adaption ending missed the point that Aang called his Kaiju moment beforehand without understanding relevance, instead subbing giant wave forms thinking "awesome power of the ocean".)
1 year later and the one peice live action became the best anime live action
One thing most people sleep on HARD is the rurouni kenshin live adaptations on netflix. These movies as their own standalone series absolutely slap, the story is oddly paced but the action, costumes, and characterization are godly. If you wanna see a pretty decent live adaptation of an already pretty damn good anime and manga, go watch all three rorouni kenshin movies on netflix, the last part just came out last year I believe
I'm just saying, the Speed Racer movie is RIGHT THERE. All it takes is the right direction and some real passion
This is what I’m saying. Sure, it takes a level of care about creating a world and putting that work and time into making it look good, but that’s worth it when the adaptation is a genuine piece of art! Speed Racer was a passion project and it SHOWS. It may not be a perfect movie but you cannot deny that the Wachowskis had full confidence in their vision and executed it immaculately.
I’d give anything to see them make something else in that world, whether it be a TV show or another movie, just as long as they put enough effort into the visuals as they did in the first movie.
I completely agree, furthermore Cowboy bebop ~ firefly.
I am sure that in Tokyo Ghul adaptation fans didn't mind poor visuals as much as the fact that ghuls weren't wild
I think Netflix successfully adapted Alice in Borderland. Although it was originally from a manga, not an anime, but still survival concept is somewhat realistic. That live action show tbh, it was marvellous 👌
No
live action adaptations for manga are can be good sometimes, I do like 'Alice in borderland' and From 'Today, It’s My Turn'
This video doesn't age very well lmao, one piece live action nailed it
“My country the new age” is a Korean live action soap opera/adventure show on Netflix. It was okay. But it felt like I was watching an anime. So I thought to myself, “Why can’t they make anime remakes like this?”
Then I realized. It’s already a live action show. So I don’t have the previous input of an anime to base it off of. It’s easier to make an live action show feels like an anime than it is to change the medium, I think. If I had been an anime first - maybe the show would have missed the mark.
Just a thought.
Probably will not see the tu tu hakusho reimagining.
"Holy shit another banger" - these were my sons last words before falling victim to a stroke being forced to relive the earth bending scene from the live action ATLA movie. Unfortunately, Blugil only made it 1 minute and 29 seconds into the video before dying almost instantly but he knew it would be a banger like always
Bro?? Resurrect him so he finishes, I need that watch time. Cmon now
The animators were told to pick one scene to work on and leave the rest.
By the way, the producers by the name of Frank Marshal & Kathleen Kennedy called the shots, not the writers or the directors, why do you think that everything they touch recently, including Last Airbender, has been nothing but shit. And why else would M. Night never work with them again? Including every other writer & director that refused them.
By the way, grow up. The film wasn't that bad, Two Girls 1 Cup is still the reigning champ of shit cinema. It exists, has a different name, and is worse than Traci Lords' early film career.
Reminds me of the 'Why RWBY S-cks'-Video of Hbomberguy.
lmaooo
@@ninjasniperproductions4476 "By the way, grow up. The [ATLA live-action] film wasn't that bad..."
Are you OK, friend?
I cannot bring myself to comprehend what led them to think making a live action Yu Yu Hakusho is a good idea.
They just need to own the IP. They know it will fail. It's all about franchise real estate.
Netflix is probably gonna flex that they never read or watched yu yu hakusho
The same force that led them to think a live action of one piece was a good idea, when is terrible.
They are gonna ruin my favorite anime of all time. Wtf
Live stage play was good though
Edge of Tomorrow is hands down my favourite manga-inspired film. Seen it like 5 times. It's so good without having any manga-esque cringe vibes. It just takes an awesome plot and concept and makes a banger hollywood film out of it. A shining example of how these adaptations should be made.
Library Wars is another excellent live action adaptation. You don't need to read the manga to enjoy the movies and the action scenes were really good as well as the music and also the acting. I've watched that trilogy multiple times, and read the manga, and watched the anime. Each version is slightly different but I still love it
Badass adaptation
Holy shit didn’t even know it was inspired from a manga. I guess that goes to show how good of an adaptation it is.
Yes!! And if you like EoT you MUST read All You Need Is Kill because its even better
tom was the real OG with rita in that badass movie
Erased is really good. It’s the one live action I actually sometimes prefer. Because it changed the ending and showed just how evil that bad guy actually was.
Because it doesnt involve anything, impossible stuff (hyper exaggeration....) in the story too
Parasyte and Rurouni Kenshin Movies are great as well. I recommend
@@RandoLePerson Someone recommend Blade of Immortal to me too. Its on my list. Will watch it when I can. Thanks!
Saw Gantz and yes I agree. Its awesome how they manage to make it that good!
Another great live action was the Live action version of Crying Freeman. Because the locations they chose to shoot at were all ways interesting, and a good fit for the story.
I think that there's a lot of room for live action adaptations of Crime/thriller anime. And I'd love to see some ambitious directors try their hand at psychological horror.
The series is much better than the live action movie. I agree, it's one of the best live action adaptations to date. I also enjoyed the Tokyo Revengers live action, which is basically a cross between Erased and Crows Zero.
I think another point of live action adaptations are for "non anime fans". There's still a lot of people that refuse to watch Anime purely due to it being animated.
And it can also explain why they're often terrible, bc they try to make it more palatable to people who don't know anime. Guess it must do well enough bc they keep happening even though they're usually terrible.
That's like trying to make a good spaghetti for people that hate meat, noodles and tomato.
They will make the stories completely bland to appeal to as many people as possible.
so, they are basically not caring about the actual quality of the original material they are adapting and just doing it bc it will drive money for their companie's owners and shareholders and ask the people who are actually doing it to try to make something good despite the fact that it defenetly wont be bc the original material itself was constructed within the media of animation
a bunch of greedy pigs if u ask me
Why even try to make something that they know won't work for their intended audience only to be forced to change it and end up pleasing nobody?
The times that live-action anime works are so few that it makes little sense to even try.
Hate western adaptation of anime very few exception. The ratio of exception to what they have butchered is blown out to its proportion
I will never understand why they are so adamant on making them into live action. its just impossible to make it look good or even decent
It's just the least effort thing they can do to still appeal to the fandom and get a bunch of cash
Money from the popularity of something that worked.
@@Erik_Persoon Hopefully they stop wasting money on it, they could be using that money on the real anime and it will do wayyy better
@@Ethan-zv2xt i doubt they will, just doing this shit costs very little in comparison to what they make, they have already solidified themselves a sa mainstream streaming platform so they can push out garbage and still have the money flowing in
Tbf i would do the same thing, would you rather waste millions on an original project you have no idea will succeed, or just remake an ip with an existing consumer base. We sort of fund this bs.
The Rurouni Kenshin movies are an exception. They were critically acclaimed by both the reviews and the audience and I must say they were amazing films. From the cast to the coreography and music, everything was very well made and it almost never felt out of place. Some say it nearly surpasses the source material. I didn't watch the anime yet, so I can't say anything. But the movies are definitely worth a watch.
There is also alita battle angel which was also a success
@@yoga5631 I hated that movie and would have fallen asleep if I wasn't watching in 4D. The chair literally jolted me awake. At one point we considered leaving the cinema
If I had to pick the best live action adaptation it would have to be Library Wars
some of the best japan live action
Parasyte Maxim
Ajin
Nah, I'm pretty sure history is full of "exceptions" that became the norm once someone figured it out. Saying its impossible is narrow minded
I watched the fight scenes and yeah they did that justice frfr
I still think Alita Battle Angel is probably one of the most successful and well adapted anime movie ive seen so far.
Same
Say still have some hope in live action anime
Same
Criminally underrated movie!
The jojo part 4 live action wasn’t too bad
Well Lets now talk about
One Peice, live action-
Nah one piece live action is not that good
Its better than other live action anime Ive seen 💀@@Audiomaker49
"Good luck trying to make Zoro without bright green hair and not getting death threats from fans"
GOT ME GOOD 💀
and somehow it ended up being okay?
I feel like Death Note is one of the few popular anime which could lend itself well to live action, but would require pretty strict adherence to its plot, writing and characters. But at that point, you may as well just watch the original (except in the case of introducing these stories to a wider audience who isn't as familiar with anime).
The japanese warner made a pretty decent live action movies. They did a few changes but they all were consistent with the essence of the story and some even better( for example, the way naomi misora is killed, is actually more believable and realistic for how her character is presented, than light talking her into giving him her real name in like a 15 minutes walk)
@@galacticandromeda the japanese movies, not the dorama. Movies made by warner bros in 2006-2008
@@galacticandromeda it is not, is a pretty good adaptation with good actors that manages to respect the message and point of the manga, the ending is closer to the manga than the anime and with a difference that is actually better because mello and near were always very unnecessary as main characters( i mean, 90% fans just lost interest once it was not l vs light, and with reason). And as i said, the deal with naomi misora was better handled. Misa was also given some more depth, cause i love death note but i have to admit the authors suck at writing female characters, that's a reality.
As someone who thinks the Death Note anime was crap, boring and not half as smart as it would like you to think, and as someone who has seen every single version to have ever come out (the only series that I hate-watch), I think the 2015 JDrama was the best version. I hated Light and L the least in that version and I think it improved on the stuff that happened after L's death
Honestly this is why I was glad Netflix made a different story with Death Note, at least it didn't feel like a waste of time
Anyone else here after One Piece came out?
I did not realise how old this video was, rip.
The video is still right though. I didn't actually like the adaptation, I just didn't hate it.
Another major problem (one more common when non-Japanese studios try to do live-action anime adaptations) is that we, the fans of the original anime, are often not the target audience. The amount of people in America who streamed a show on Crunchyroll on the same day of the week it aired just isn't enough to make a Hollywood movie profitable, so they need to aim for a larger crowd that isn't as familiar with the source material. There will be a lot of creative licenses taken to try and make it work in the new format that will especially annoy those of us who are and loved it the way it was.
There is another big problem with anime adaptations, specifically in the West, which are the cultural components that are fundamental to the Manga and Anime genre. Just like superhero comics are an American tradition built specifically off the history and culture, the same goes for anime and manga. And it isn't just the obviously Asian cultural references that are lost, it is also the non Asian cultural references that are remixed and fused into a unique amalgam that is unique on its own. And because of that, most western studios just look at the stories in a mostly superficial way and therefore lose most of the underlying tropes and cliches, plus other genre specific idioms that make these things work. A very obvious example of all of this is Ghost in the Shell where they completely miss the point that the world the story is set in is based on Japan being the leading nation after a disastrous international war (basically a riff off Japan being a technology powerhouse in the 80s and 90s). Another example is the obsessive nature of Japanese cram schools and students obsessing over getting good grades on college entrance exams in Death Note. Such a story depends heavily on that Japanese specific cultural reference that it falls flat when transported to a Western setting. Or the fact that most shonen manga heros are variations on the archetype of the Monkey King from journey to the west, fighting against the gods and fate itself to become the ultimate fighter or hero.
As far as the reason why Japanese live action production falters is due to the fact that the Japanese entertainment industry does not spend hundreds of millions of dollars on movies. That is just not part of their culture. So of course many of the live action anime often lack the polish and sophistication that one would expect from a western production. However, one area where you can see these things put to best use combining the best of both worlds is video games and one very good recent example is Elden Ring, where they have the fancy visuals, plus the zany far out imagination of Japanese creators on display. So even though it is heavily based on Western medieval history and high fantasy, there is no mistaking its distinctively Asian elements and twists on those concepts.
Attack on Titan was adapted in Japan. I couldn't believe how the entire established world was tossed aside and reset in Japan. No regard to how relevent the world and cultures are to the characters and story. Mikasa becomes irrelevant immediately.
Hey 👋🏻 i thought this was super interesting, could you go into more detail on realizing the Japanese creative influence on Elden Ring? What aspects were specifically japanese?
@@jayhassan976 Mostly in the world building, meaning the over the top way the medieval elements are combined. Not to mention there are samauri elements in the game. I would say in some ways it is their creative interpretation of Western Medieval fantasy. Many of those elements being a staple of FromSoft games for many years.
Anime will rarely work as live action, and the same could be said of video game movies, for same reasons you’ve described. But at least for video games there’s more flexibility in adapting it
Video games definitely. Aside from games like Uncharted that are basically just playable movies, how you interact with video games and how you interact with film are very different
Imagine a dmc movie
The Sonic the Hedgehog films are a counterpoint to this claim. Those films are highly succesful and they're actually good, especially the 2nd one.
True dat, The Detective Pikachu movie was a shockingly good film because the director chose to adapt the game which had a more grounded story than the anime
@@Sinzreal lord of the rings should make that
Welp this did not age well One Peice hell even beat Squid Game the best Netflix series ever
No
I read this comment right when the gideo started talking about squash and stretch. It reminded me exactly why One Piece is one of the worst anime to try to make live action. The main charater's ability is literally squashing and stretching, which animation has perfected for nearly 100 years now.
The only way I can see this working if it's an adaptation and not a recreation because there is just something you cannot recreate in live action
The more outlandish, the more you have to alter from the actual source material
Well some of them do deviate from the story and that happens to be shit.
They have been good adaptations that are well recreated anyway
Well there are good adaptations that do you recreate perfectly
I though the cowboy bebop live action would have been fine if it was just a buddy cop movie with Spike and jet and show their adventures before Faye before the Julia and Vicious storyline from the anime. This could have worked if they actually involved the creator and have him say what type of bounties they had in the past.
Animation can work as a live action, but you need to chose the right anime. Something like Steamboy could work easily. Ghost in the Shell if they had stuck to the story looked picture perfect. Pacific Rim is proof of concept that you could make a live action Gundam film. That being said, Alita is about as perfect an adaptation as you could ask for.
most realist will work as live action.
Yeah, Rurouni Kenshin was pretty damn good because they cared about it. It's easily one of the best out there.
@@coryv5679 Inuyasha can happen. I believe in it!
@@coryv5679 those movies were so fun man!!
it's also u need characters that aren't so exaggerated.
that's why most r do cringe
the only live adaptation that was really good is Scott pilgrim cause it embraced what it was.
Kensington also was OK cause it's just samurai but the cringe from exaggerated characters ruined some scenes which is y Kensington was less carttoonty
THE ONE PEACE IS REAL
THE ONE PIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The One Piece Is Real
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I just never understand why they adapt such fantastical anime. There are a million different slice-of-life shows out there just waiting to be made into American teenage dramas for super cheap but they want to do Sci-fi and fantasy
Those are the "doramas" very famous in asia
They literally just look up “top 10 anime by viewership” and think they can cash in. Shonen will simply just never work. At most I could see maybe attack on titan
"I want to eat your pancreas" was a good example of it. Both anime and live-action were great
Slice of life are easy so most of em are made into tv with low cost production..but geddemit they are the one that works!! Many amazing titles I've watched
@@faieziabubakar207 I totally agree.
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And then. One piece entered the chat.
The main reason anime to live-Action that I say doesn’t work is because the writers and director don’t know the source material well enough. Look at Pokémon detective pikachu which is both anime and video game. It worked well because you can tell there was a lot of effort, knowledge, and lore that the creators knew. It also was based on a not well known video game. I think it’s important to pick the right anime or create a storyline that revolves around the world of it. For example, if they are adapting naruto. I say start with a side story or keep the essence of it and similar story beats. Just change the fight scenes to make it more new but similar
Detective Pikachu doesn't have anything to do with the anime, though. It works mainly because it's just a world inhabited by Pokemon and doesn't try to adapt the anime art style of the games.
Wasn't the Bleach Live Action passable? Though may get tricky with the later arcs... Then again a few of the actors were also in a good Kamen Rider so they know how to play shonen style characters.
it's also the characters don't translate well to live action.
@@firepuppies4086 it was still cringe.
no matter what the characters can't translate to live action
Gintama, Fullmetal Alchemist is good adaptation
I'm still going to give One Piece live action a shot because I'm a fan and i've been following the cast and producers and they all seem to put a lot of effort into this project plus the budget is huge for an anime adaptation but I know that whatever the outcome, not everyone is going to be happy.
A One Piece live action would most likely not work. There is just simply too much source material to cover. The manga itself has more than 1,000 chapters and it still is not even close to finishing. there is no way that couple be condensed down into a 2 hour timeframe.
Same i have faith!
@@NomadicWanderer11 obviously most live action movies can’t cover the whole source materiel of a manga unless it’s very short I’d image they just take the characters and make a movie that doesn’t follow the source materiel or cover 1 arc
@@NomadicWanderer11 the adaptation is only the east blue saga and it is not a movie, I read that there will be approximately 10 chapters of 1 hour
@@NomadicWanderer11 It's a 10 episode season most likely 40 mins to an hour long each, and it covers the first 100 chapters (East Blue). It's been calculated that they'll be able to cover it without any issue as well if they cut some unnecessary moments
Hello, One Piece would like a word!
I don't know why Netflix doesn't try to adapt stuff more along the lines of murder misteries with lesser scify or fantasy elements , like a series like Psycho Pass would work really well if they can make the guns and the gore look half decent
Claymore but you need some one that cares
Or maybe Monster.
@@johnlawful2272 nah. Claymore gets wild later on. Just imagine the quicksword or all the lobbed off limbs.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 they don't have a rated r section
In my personal opinion, i never understood the appeal of Disney and Anime/Manga live-action adaptations. Sure when it’s done right like Speed Racer, Rurouni Kenshin, Alita, Gintama and Bleach it can be good of course, but most of the time it just doesn’t work. I think that one of the biggest reasons that these stories work really well is because they are animated. Animation is one of the most important art forms ever created. With animation, you can really do anything compared to live-action. It's just this open medium where anything you can think of and anything you can create, you can make. The limits are budget and willpower.
What i'm trying to say is: Live-Action adaptations of Animated movies and shows are super unecessary. There’s too much live-action already. If anything, they should have used the money for more experimental and interesting long form animation both as series and movies instead. We need more of this kind of stuff imo.
Terrible writers and directors every body wants that avengers money
@@johnlawful2272 You've got the answer right there, dude. Its AAAALL the writers + directors fault. It has nothing to do with "anime doesnt translate well to movies". What about Disney, then?? They're MORE ridiculous than ANY anime so that opinion is moot. Go hire ANY Master-grade directors AND a good writer, you can bet it'll HIT big just like ANY movie in ANY genre no matter how ridiculous it is. Its all in the script + directors hands from the storytelling and cinematography.
but when you get good writers you end up with really good anime live actions like alita battle angel or alice in borderland
One piece live action ruined this video.
Who ever thought making live action remakes were a good idea
Some western corporate bureaucrat that one saw his kid watching some cartoon he did not recognize, and after sexual harassing an actress during lunch break, he had his 2pm "creative reunion" and said "the chinks have tons of IP we could reap for cheap" and everybody clapped, thinking he was serious and called the VFX departments full of geeks happy to work on whatever big manga/anime they heard so they said yes.
Or not, who knows, but I'm kinda sure the first half is true though.
@@CuT7yFlaM based
@@CuT7yFlaM basically every American adaptation of Asian horror movies.
Come on they’re good adaptations it’s not that bad of an idea
Don’t get me wrong we all want good adaptations
Now hol' up a minute. Cowboy Bebop _could_ have been a great live action show, mostly because it was fairly grounded (in the sense of a sci-fi) and didn't fall into typical wackiness/over-animation of typical anime/cartoons. The reason that the Cowboy Bebop live action failed was entirely on the shitty writers behind the project that gave no respect to the source material... which is honestly a common problem with a lot of modern Hollywood adaptations *cough* HALO *cough* Resident Evil *cough* Rings of Power *cough*
And the reason I know Cowboy Bebop could have actually been good... is because Firefly exists and is considered a critically acclaimed cult classic (along with its movie sequel Serenity). River Tam is just an anime character thrown into a live action Sci-fi Western and you can't tell me otherwise lmaoooo
Yeah I agree on the Cowboy Bebop point... following the source material and making proper casting choices.... that is all that is needed.
Sounds like blackmail to me
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Hey, hey HEY!!!! Hands off of Firefly and it's associated movie Serenity. As for your RIver Tam statement, her exceptional abilities where teased in the show. I've little doubt that, had the series not been so brief, said special abilities would have been manifested in a less spectacular, bombastic....less over the top way.
@@GeraldM459 Bruh, I was complimenting Firefly and Serenity, and using it as an example of how Cowboy Bebop live action could have been successful.
and later one piece broke the curse.
Nah one piece live action is just decent not that good in my opinion
I think the one big exception might be Speed Racer. Not everyone loves that movie, but it is extremely cohesive and confident in how it threads the needle with bringing animation energy and pacing to live action.
That movie was so pretty. The effects were on point
It sort of helps that the specific ways Speed Racer were adapted made it ok, they piled on the spectacle in driving which works especially in Speed Racer, and it was released at a time where people would not recognize Speed Racer was one of the earliest anime.
Haven't seen that one! That was actually the first anime I ever watched back in the 90s. Even my uncle who is extremely picky about, well... Everything in life & has no interest in anime, had actually seen it and enjoyed it when growing up.
I feel like Live Action, especially when it comes to Disney properties, only exists because Cartoons and / or Anime is considered to be "too childish" by some people.
Unfortunately. That thought gotta be held by people that never bother to even try watching animation. Cause even the ones that ARE for kids can very well entertain adults. The Incredibles is undoubtedly a kids movie, but still deals with some heavy themes that will resonate with an older audience
That's what pisses me off the most. I just remembered Hollywood's statement about animation in the Oscars 2022. According to them, animation is something that's only for kids and all the adults have to endure it. I apologize for the swearing, but that's complete bullshit! Animation is for everyone and that's a fact.
@@NasuPrime The Incredibles is one of my favorite movies ever, animated or not. In the movie commentary, director Brad Bird made a statement that animation is not a genre. Is a medium that is and can be for everyone. That guy's a legend.
It's honestly really fucking pathetic that so many people still have this mentality.
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets as hybrid, i didn't mind both
I think that's why I like tokusatsu so much, it's because the way the fight's actually fit the medium they're presented in
You could never get the kind of crazy angles in live action, but you can at least stylize the filming and perspectives enough to emote something more
all live action anime should be tokusatsu
@@π_π-η1τ agreed, _heavily_ stylized tokusatsu
But tokusatsu none the less!
tbh i’m not against the idea of live action anime provided it’s less like whatever Netflix is doing and more like that cutie honey and sailor moon’s tokus
Rurouni Kenshin adaptations continue to get better witch each release, they trying different filming aproachs, to resemble more the source, and while they are not perfect, they are pretty enjoyable to watch.
Yeah, it's one of the few I'd say has an adaptation I don't despise, but the creator being exposed for stuff I don't even want to mention makes me want to pirate it. Outside of acting on it, that's the worst thing a person could ever do (imo anyway).
@@TheZephyrsWind also, we dont know for sure men, like think of all the times, celebritys have been charged with tons of child pornography... like if you want to frame or shade someone that is the easiest possible way to do it. how on earth do they get a hold of their computers in the first place, and at that time they could just easily plant it there...
@@TheZephyrsWind on the other hand, that'd also be punishing everyone else involved who didn't do horrible things, so pirating for that reason is a mixed bag.
Was about to comment this. It's probably one of the only adaptations done well
The fight scenes are actually pretty amazing as well since the actor playing Kenshin has a proficient background in martial arts.
you finally have be proven to be false for the first time, one piece live action nailed it
Nah it really didn’t the only good thing is that they look great
No, It sucks, it's cringe as f.
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Ty!
It's always because of the filmmakers behind this stuff. Case closed!!
From what I get, this year's Bullet Train is based off of a Japanese novel called Maria Beetle, and it looks to be one of this year's most entertaining movies.
Hopefully it does well, because I'd be interested in seeing more adaptations like that.
Oh really? Great to add that one next to Edge to Tomorrow
I really enjoyed it tbh. It wasn’t as funny as I expected but I thought the premise was pretty cool and the characters had a nice chemistry together.
I felt like I was watching a toned down version of jojo
@@diegogonzalezvazq I feel like its too weird to attract a big audience, on one hand, its too gory for people kids that would like action comedy films, on the other it might be too goofy for people that enjoy violence? I personally do not like too much gore so I cringe a bit at several bloody scenes and I feel like even though they manage to string together the entire plot, I left theater bewildered because I felt like the entire thing is too bizarre. I can't say it's a bad film, but I can say that its not for me.
@@Jay9966 so you would say that the film was somewhat bizarre?? Sort of like a certain collection of adventures?
That’s my point the film has its appeal. Look at how many people watch jojos. It is exactly the same
Bullet Train is fun. It's a crazy film.
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Thanks, I appreciate that man
5:15 NGL this was kinda going hard lmaoo
He could beat Goku
@@NasuPrime easy
I gotta ask you this, what about Netflix's *"Alice in Borderland"* ?
Because that show was actually an Anime first before it became Live Action.
And honestly, Alice in Borderland is really like one of those rare situations were an adaptation actually does well, even if the story is average.
I agree that one is good.
I was gonna ask this myself, I haven't finished AIB but I like it so far.
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Looks like I'm not the only one who came back to this video after One Piece crushed 🤣🤣🤣
Speed Racer deserves a mention though. Direct adaption, actually created by fans of anime, tons of heart, fantastic movement and bright colors that work. Anime in live action *can* work, it simply has to come from a dedicated team that loves the medium of animation.
Haven't watched that in well over a decade so didn't feel right to speak on it. Might do a rewatch
@@NasuPrime Worth the time. It's a little long lol
One piece works
I think it depends on the anime, a live adaptation of Hajime no Ippo would work, the point of the fights is the backstories of the fighters not the jet stream sound effects, if they do it right it could definitely work
Actually the state and quality of CGI in current MCU projects lately is really making a good case for why the source material is probably better suited to animation!
Well shit because One Piece was amazing lol
I think the problem isn't that live action anime will never work, but instead that the people tasked with bringing the anime to live action rarely see the reality within its cartoon nature. At the same time they rarely capture the soul of the work when making it "real" which is always the most important part.
Yeah why they go for the most ridiculous shows is beyond me. And they can't even do it well in the slightest. There are better fan films out there like all the Naruto recreations
I hate how people think that animation is for kids and that the real deal is Hollywood or at least that’s what Hollywood want people to think if nobody is thinking it, but I know some people do. Some of the best shows and movies I’ve ever seen were animation flat out
I think you hit the mark with every point however, I think some anime/manga could be adapted if it’s more grounded in realism & if those partaking in the adaption fully respect as well as understand the genre/art form. You can almost always tell they don’t like or watch the source material, & make hair pulling head scratching changes that involve everything from white washing to changing key characteristics that make the character them. I agree I wish they’d just stop I’m yet to see one that’s really good therefore making a case for more adaptations💯
Like if it's a death game manga/anime because guns and traps look better on the big screen. Also Rurouni kenshin because of swordplay
One Piece is not very realistic, but the live action actually looks good
The only good live action anime from Netflix is Rouroni Kenshin, yeah the hair styles are off putting but the story and action is phenomenal. When I watched it, I didn't even know that it was based off an anime, now it's one of my favorite foreign films. Outside of that, live action adaptations of animated properties need to stop! Live action works for complex dramas and character study, and animation works for bringing worlds to life that wouldn't be explored unless CGI is used.
I think once the story is grounded in reality then it could be adapted. Library Wars was an excellent adaptation
But Chinese fantasy dramas are adapted from novels and they're way better than the source material so a good team can do anything
I often do have the question of "what would this anime look like in real life?" but never because i want a live action adaptation. I just like tossing the idea around in my head, wondering how gross and terrifying it'd be to be stuck in the maw of a titan, wondering how 3d maneuver gear functions, wanting to understand the heft and feel of their blades. but that's something I wonder out of personal curiosity, not because I want the story ripped out of it's original artistic vision the way these live action adaptations do
I say, make all the live action movies you want. It’s not my money and I’m not going to watch them. But that hasn’t stopped them before.