Aikido in a real street fight

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

Комментарии • 219

  • @jasoncamara
    @jasoncamara 15 лет назад +229

    that wasn't a fight, that was police brutality.

  • @u31117416
    @u31117416 15 лет назад +8

    Search for: Cop choke slams kid.
    It's from the show "Cops" and the kid had his hands in his pockets and wouldn't put his hands up. It was for his own safety he did that.

  • @Derniea
    @Derniea 10 лет назад +101

    Aikido = using the power of the opponent to defend ..... the yellow guy are attacking, it's not aikido.

    • @gigipizzuto4068
      @gigipizzuto4068 10 лет назад +10

      I disagree. If you are vs 2 or 3 people I hope you are not going to wait for them to attack you in order to use aikido. I never like the definition use the power of the opponent. Aikido uses the directions where the opponent body parts or body is willing to go and lead it a bit further. By going into an opponent you already start a movement in both bodies, thus you can have blending and disrupting balance...

    • @gigipizzuto4068
      @gigipizzuto4068 9 лет назад

      P Nak yep you have seen, that is the difference. I am lucky and I have never had to defend myself abd I hope I'll never have to. But I train with police officers who had to use aikido in real life. There are people know it all on the message board and there are people who actually train.

    • @pnak419
      @pnak419 9 лет назад

      Gigi Pizzuto​​ Yup 3 years jkd, kung fu sanda, 3.5 karate 7 muay Thai 2 years jujitsu of which MA I have spent 11 months in full time camps (bjj krav and muay) 20- 30 hours a week solid training ..... 5 cops tried to pin me before I'd done all this and couldn't keep me down, they're trained in restraint ..... And in groups I clenched my fists and kept my elbows in ... It all fell apart ...... And b4 any ma I street fight and boxed .... 27 yo started at 10 still believe straight chin shot is best for multiple attackers used locks 2x on street both times gt smashed whilst doing it .... Learned my lesson. 

    • @RobJTeasdale
      @RobJTeasdale 9 лет назад +1

      Loic Jeandel Looks like textbook Aigamae-ate to me

    • @JeremiahCress
      @JeremiahCress 9 лет назад

      ***** I trained with sensei Utada too. Osu. :)

  • @paragon1782
    @paragon1782 8 лет назад +60

    Yeah the secret throat grab technique. LOL these akidio fanboys are so funny.

  • @chrismcdermott7954
    @chrismcdermott7954 8 лет назад +5

    grabbing someone by the throat = aikido?

  • @ernstmuller2184
    @ernstmuller2184 8 лет назад +19

    He came in like a wrecking ball

  • @mickm8028
    @mickm8028 8 лет назад +2

    And his hands were in his pocket and he was standing feet close centre of gravity high, this is just like a sucker punch but grabbing instead .

  • @Porcupethtonia
    @Porcupethtonia 12 лет назад +2

    Irimi Nage. Very much an effective technique found in Aikido. The throat was an excellent choice to affect uke's centre line.

  • @xllab1
    @xllab1 8 лет назад +9

    You could say it's an irimi nage but as an offensive move. After all, "irimi nage" just means "entering throw", it's just about getting your center of gravity next and behind your opponment's to make him fall. As long as you understand the mecanics behind a MA move, you can use it in a variety of situation, it must not always be against a hara tsuki ("punch" to the "stomach") for example.
    Ah yeah, of course he is grabbing the throat of the other guy but it can also work that way, although irimi nage is usually done pushing the chin with the palm or the arm. It's easier by pushing the chin in the right fashion but anyway.

  • @ryubudo1558
    @ryubudo1558 8 лет назад +12

    Please people who doesn't know much about aikido, stop saying Aikido never attack.May you need to practice before juging.

  • @yztyzt1
    @yztyzt1 12 лет назад +6

    i assure you that this is aikido. This is one of the only attacks in aikido. It need not wait forthe uke to strike first. You can take the opponent down in a flash. My sensei applied this in randori and the back of my skull hit the mat. On concrete, i'd had a concussion. I assure you that i am going to learn this technique and keep it always polished at the forefront. It is quick, simple and effective.

  • @sjeffreydespain
    @sjeffreydespain 16 лет назад

    Actually in the beginning of this video(Not shown here) the officer asked the suspect several times to take his hand out of his pocket and the suspect ignored him. The suspect also appeared intoxicated and approached the officer.

  • @rsobrien
    @rsobrien 16 лет назад

    I wouldn't put down all Aikido techniques, however the real problem is Aikido is not usually pressure tested in a live situation

  • @GChan129
    @GChan129 15 лет назад

    That didn't really seem like a street fight, more like an unprovoked attack.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  13 лет назад

    @comradebashu The officer had told him to take his hands out of his pockets. The guy would not do it. He had been fighting or threatening someone earlier. The officer told him repeatedly to take his hands out. The officer even said, "you are making me nervous." The guy could have had a pistol or knife or anything ready to go. The officer had to assume he had that and put him down. Sounds real life to me.

  • @crimson2knight
    @crimson2knight 15 лет назад +2

    hahaha the metro police cracked me up and the second part, that guy was really persistant. xDDD

  • @jabubb
    @jabubb 8 лет назад +7

    i think that is choking

  • @gsg9ff
    @gsg9ff 16 лет назад

    He wouldn't keep his hands out of his pockets like he was instructed, so he was taken down.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  16 лет назад

    Watchng this I think the officer grabbed the suspect's right arm on the way down...probably to make sure he didn't land too hard

  • @josecarlos1955
    @josecarlos1955 16 лет назад

    the officer used a neck takedown; the aikido technique demonstrates control of the head = control of the spine = control of the body. similar but not the same...

  • @kensei1984
    @kensei1984 16 лет назад

    There was conflict to start with. The perp did not do as the cop said. In the end, he got driven down to the station in the holding cell, without further resistance. Harmony achieved.

  • @qwery654876
    @qwery654876 8 лет назад +4

    aikido was developed from aikijutsu, a rather pragmatic art akin to jujutsu. It's said that aikijutsu was developed from kenjutsu, an art to kill so to speak. In one version, as the attacker begins offensive gestures or movements ( usually performed as kiri otoshi or shomen uchi with a sword) you immediately thrust forward to the opponent's eyes or throat. That will cause the opponent to be either disbalanced, maimed, killed, or pressured away due to the threat. In the archaic sense, this is an irimi waza. Most students of modern aikido would be repulsed by the idea of offensive strategy and tactics being applied to aikido but a cursory examination of where it comes from would show its military origins and ruthless ambition.

    • @qwery654876
      @qwery654876 8 лет назад +1

      I might have made a mistake in some japanese terminology. it might not be said as kiri otoshi but kiri oroshi. just wanted to clarify.

  • @AllAboutMarkus
    @AllAboutMarkus 8 лет назад +2

    any aikidoka should know by now that aikido is not possible without atemi.

  • @xaoseph
    @xaoseph 15 лет назад

    It also includes entering techniques in which the thrower intercepts the force before it can develop, which is kind of what we are seeing here, but not exactly.

  • @fullmontis
    @fullmontis 16 лет назад

    actually it directly derives from aiki jutsu that is similar to ju jutsu but not the same.

  • @needhambunch
    @needhambunch 10 лет назад +4

    Its called nodo tsuikiagi, and it is what some of us refer to as "offensive" aikido..aka bushi waza!

  • @Nateb123
    @Nateb123 15 лет назад

    The technique is more to do with the shifting of balance. The idea is just to keep the opponent upright while you step in and behind him. It's nothing complicated but it's definitely a move taught in aikido, just without the throat grab as was shown. Who wants to beat up ukes nice enough to volunteer?

  • @richp860
    @richp860 16 лет назад +8

    I agree that a lot of schools do not train as 'real-life' as possible. But I train jujitsu/yoshikan aikido.. and we do pressure tests.. stand in the circle and people really attack you. We really throw punches, tackles, etc.. and the benefits from training this way are extremely great.. my sensei is a DANGEROUS man to anybody unwittingly attacks him.

  • @kensei1984
    @kensei1984 16 лет назад

    It was harmony. There was a conflict between the officer and the perp, officer took him down and ended the conflict. Harmony achieved.

  • @bernieandrecarbajalrivera3472
    @bernieandrecarbajalrivera3472 10 лет назад +4

    Any technique as it happens when you are in the dojo it's just a pretty face, "everytime i walk...that's Aikido" M. Ueshiba, being alert on everything that happens around us while on our normal life and being able to act before REACT that is AIKIDO

  • @packleader1215
    @packleader1215 10 лет назад

    That's called being caught off guard

  • @maheshshinde777
    @maheshshinde777 11 лет назад

    man was just standing there was no need to attack him

  • @u31117416
    @u31117416 15 лет назад

    Yes I know.
    I was just responding to the guy that it was not becouse that he would swallow drugs that he got slammed, it was for the cops safety.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  16 лет назад

    It is hard to see in the clip, but perhaps the cop is exerting pressure upwards through the blade of the hand and his fingers just reflexively wrapped around the neck...just a thought

  • @gsg9ff
    @gsg9ff 16 лет назад

    Don't jump to conclusions, watch COPS on TV, and you will probably get the whole story, that guy had done something serious enough to be a threat, so he was taken down skillfully.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    He didn't hit him in the adams apple with force

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  16 лет назад

    Yeah I'm gonna have to find the whole thing and post it on here I guess. The officer was well within his rights. He had told the guy several times to take his hands out of his pockets and he wouldn't. The suspect had been fighting someone earlier.

  • @rcastlerock498
    @rcastlerock498 12 лет назад

    This is not aikido. This is excessive force and brutality. The guy was just standing there.

  • @gsg9ff
    @gsg9ff 16 лет назад

    He was involved in some kind of fight, and when the COP arrived at the scene, he instructed the guy to keep his hands out of his pockets, for which he only dug deeper as if reaching for a weapon, and Walla! He is taken down!

  • @rannoudanames
    @rannoudanames 11 лет назад

    that is a brutal attack... a hit in the neck... in addition he ran on him to make his attack effective...

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    Aikido in a real assault?

  • @tenhirankei
    @tenhirankei 9 лет назад

    Unless someone has a "bull-neck", this would take anybody down.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    LOL ok I'll uh get right on that.
    I wasn't trying to say the cop practices aikido, maybe he does...I don't even practice aikido! However it IS an aikido technique along with various other traditional martial arts. It is ironic the most flack I get is from MMA extremists AND Aikido extremists. Hey, at least you guys agree on something!

  • @OMGLPs
    @OMGLPs 9 лет назад

    This was a scene from a tv show similar to COPS

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад +1

    Ok how bout "aikido derived (but not according to some aikido masters and critics) technique in a street assault
    Is that accurate?

  • @stevel1984
    @stevel1984 12 лет назад

    However, Tokyo Police were at least at one point trained in Aikido as part of their basic training

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    I don't think alot of people see that in the end the guy is ok, in fact the officer even grabs the guy's arm on the way down to keep him from banging too hard. I would say that is much better than a taser.

  • @Thethezeppelin
    @Thethezeppelin 12 лет назад +1

    Where'd you find the second clip?

  • @StormbringerStudios
    @StormbringerStudios 12 лет назад

    1) Human anatomy doesn't change, so martial arts use similar techniques
    2) The guard stepped in and threw the man down by his throat. Regardless of the situation, the shock of being hit in the throat by suprise would knock anyone down.
    3) I doubt the guard trained in Aikido simply because Aikido trains for peaceful conflict resolution.

  • @zacharyobrien853
    @zacharyobrien853 11 лет назад

    In the Aikido technique you don't actually grab the neck all. Watch an Aikido technician from Japan and look closely where their hand goes and what happens to the attackers balance. The point in the technique is to take their balance and get them to the ground not choke them. And Aikido is based off blending with your opponent. What was shown is more like a WWF choke slam.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  13 лет назад

    @comradebashu So if the first technique had not been so effective THEN it would have been a fight?

  • @marbananta
    @marbananta 12 лет назад

    Not in my opinion. Aikido is all about self defense, and surely not for street fighting with all those fancy moves and techniques. It's mainly used to take down the assailant using counter attacks to paralyze the assailant. It fits with cops. It doesn't work in street fight, of course, because it's not about kicks and punches. It's all about disabling opponent's attacks.

  • @june191970
    @june191970 15 лет назад

    aikido' s main principle if you will is to redirect engergy of your nage or attacker....this person who the "security guard" slammed to the ground wasn't redirecting anything, he's just a common thug dressed up in a security uniform.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  16 лет назад

    I didn't put the rest of the situation on here because I wanted it to be about the technique...but to be brief he had every reason to take him down and probably could have been justified to use more force.

  • @carlosa9447
    @carlosa9447 10 лет назад

    This isnt a fight its one person attacking another person who isnt fighting back.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    Same thoughts here...I thought that was common sense but apparently not lol

  • @kokyu10
    @kokyu10 15 лет назад

    It is Aikido, the technique is nodo tsuki age

  • @senseistrange
    @senseistrange 16 лет назад

    I vote against calling it aikido, because it is an attack...not harmonizing with energy.
    In addition, I hope the officer lost his job over this.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    THIS video is flagged? LOL Flagged? LOL

  • @mcpartridgeboy
    @mcpartridgeboy 9 лет назад +2

    why does it take a martial artist to grab someones throat ? ? ? anyone can do that !

  • @makukawakami
    @makukawakami 12 лет назад

    It's not aikido. It is just a display of bare power

  • @kensei1984
    @kensei1984 15 лет назад

    It was a fight. And it's called police "initiative." Support those that keep you safe while you sleep in bed at night.

  • @ketsan
    @ketsan 15 лет назад

    Ironically "Aikido in an assault" is probably not far from the truth. You shouldn't be able to tell who attacked first.

  • @FGeRHD
    @FGeRHD 11 лет назад

    Aikido works in "real world".
    A lot of fights starts in close range with 'speaking', there is chance for Aikido technique, to make control of your opponent, and put him on the ground.
    Ofc if some1 running to you and want to knock u out, forget about aikido.
    But in 70% fight u can make aikidio works. ;)

  • @kensei1984
    @kensei1984 16 лет назад

    Um, both guys in a fighting stance is a sport because they are engaged in a match. it's an ego measuring contest . A street fight can occur whenever, with whatever and whomever.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    What would have had to happen to qualify it as a fight in your opinion?

  • @bushin64
    @bushin64 16 лет назад

    Failure to present his hands to the officer in and of itself is a big threat especially since the officer asked the guy to show his hands ... twice. The guy could have had a knife or gun in his pockets. At under 21feet an assailant can close in that distance in less than 1.5 seconds. This time is cut even more if the guy had a gun. Not much time for the officer to draw his gun.

  • @relicen1
    @relicen1 16 лет назад

    Police officers encounter all kinds of people each day. This perticular person might have had a gun or a knife in his pocket. What's better: The cop getting shot or stabbed or the suspect getting a sore butt?

  • @bushin64
    @bushin64 16 лет назад

    Aikido is derived from jujitsu. It has a strong relationship to Daito Ryu jujitsu. So call it what you will ... they are in the same family

  • @Zantor135
    @Zantor135 9 лет назад +3

    Not a fight, Cop taking guy down. The guy is not even attempting to fight back. This demonstrates nothing,

  • @ShNBl84
    @ShNBl84 11 лет назад

    Sorry, I can't agree that slamming a throat counts as an aikido move. It doesn't match any of the aikido elements of using the attacker's momentum against himself (the dude wasn't moving). Also the aikido takedown originates from bending the chin and throwing the attacker off balance instead of slamming the throat.

  • @Lottoaire
    @Lottoaire 11 лет назад

    best thing maybe to prove your theory about akido is to go and attack "street fight style" a proficient akido practitioner, more in the training than meets the average eye.

  • @bedsareuseful
    @bedsareuseful 11 лет назад

    If that aikido master had head butted the other guy he would have fallen over.
    Then the uploader would have got some random video of a head butt KO and said "aikido works in a real street fight"

  • @ketsan
    @ketsan 15 лет назад

    Aikido techniques do not require an attack and the technique shown would be perfectly acceptable in Aikido. It's a variation of either irime nage or ten chi nage.
    Wheather the guy performing it or not is niether here nor there. The important thing is an Aikidoka might do exactly the same thing in that situation.

  • @ShaunMclorie
    @ShaunMclorie 16 лет назад

    To clarify:
    Lunging for somebody and grabbing their throat: Awesome move. Not Aikido.
    A compliant man in a skirt running into you repeatedly and throwing himself on the floor: Not a real fighting technique. Is an Aikido technique.

  • @KaezerMusik
    @KaezerMusik 9 лет назад +6

    haha do that to a jujitsu guy, set him up perfectly for a arm bar

  • @ccatln
    @ccatln 15 лет назад

    It is what a cop mind can understand from aikido!

  • @kevkou44
    @kevkou44 12 лет назад

    Just watched a documentory saying Aikido was purely defensive form of martial arts...so ummm...

  • @dieno125569
    @dieno125569 11 лет назад

    It is different. What Gozo Shioda do is Atemi(strike before the enemy complete his form.of attack) while the guy in yellow, well...just strike. It is like when get in a near position to neutralized an attack before a guy has the chance to swing his knife on you. In Aikido you has to face the fear of death in each attack and the moment you lost your concentration that is when things go bad. It is a fight in a flash

  • @MischaC
    @MischaC 15 лет назад

    What's the difference? And don't tell me he's not "redirecting" his attacker's energy. I'd call planting the guy on his back a pretty compelling redirection of ki.

  • @kensei1984
    @kensei1984 16 лет назад

    The sad thing is, more people would have loved to see a downed cop than a downed criminal.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    LOL Like I said do you think Aikido in an assault would be a better title?

  • @innuendoqueen9849
    @innuendoqueen9849 10 лет назад

    The aikidoka is pushing the opponent putting his hand under the opponent's nose . It is the perfect spot to manipulate anyone litteraly . The police officer is just grabbing that guy's throat ... Not the same thing

  • @kensei1984
    @kensei1984 16 лет назад

    Um yes it is. Putting aside the aikido comment for a second, self defense allows you to launch a preemptive strike against someone who you believe is a perceived threat. When the cop asked 3 times to take his hands out of his pockets, he just dug deeper for something. Officer used reasonable force as he took down the guy without leaving any lasting harm and immobilised skillfully. This is ethcial. Unethical would be to taser him straight away or to just shoot him. So well within the philosophy.

  • @kblbuc
    @kblbuc 11 лет назад

    A REAL CHEAP SHOT....

  • @tactlessturtle
    @tactlessturtle 15 лет назад

    I would say that it's not akido on the grounds that akido is strongly defensive;
    the point of the move above is to redirect the attacker's energy behind him (by forcing the chin up as his spine follows) thus the direction of the attacker's energy goes from forward to directly up, from which the defender can manipulate it.
    technically the notion behind disorienting the opponent's center to take them down is there but... it's also in any tackle you see in the NFL.
    i say not akido

  • @diddymuck
    @diddymuck 13 лет назад

    that was a guy being pushed, not a "live on the street aikido fight".

  • @bunkerbustercrab
    @bunkerbustercrab 13 лет назад

    I don't know if that's Aikido or not. All I know in Aikido enemy must attack first, if they don't attack then solve the conflict without any fist, kick or grapple.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    "That's interesting"
    Yes it is
    "So it's not aikido then but some other thing"
    You can call it "flying jaguar fist" if that makes you feel better

  • @clementinogisondi5202
    @clementinogisondi5202 10 лет назад

    any martial art can be good. if you don't take your training seriously, however, you won't be so good. you need to push yourself to get out of your comfort box and try other stuff sometimes. for me, aikido would be a lot of fun. i just never get around to going. i also have a hard time picking a dojo. there's so many schedules and dojo. i'm not sure which is the best for me

  • @gooforyoucoffe4538
    @gooforyoucoffe4538 11 лет назад

    i trained aikido aikido is not for fighting it only for self defense and aikido is only effective when attacker is agressive but it design for only self defense

  • @screwedandchoppedtv
    @screwedandchoppedtv 15 лет назад

    how was this a street fight?

  • @Gustafa69
    @Gustafa69 15 лет назад

    This is not Aikido! This just a police control technique! It would have been Aikido if the police officer would have been attacked first.

  • @sainiucalexandrusimon1651
    @sainiucalexandrusimon1651 9 лет назад +1

    AIKIDO NEVER ATTACK

    • @ryubudo1558
      @ryubudo1558 8 лет назад +2

      +Sainiuc Alexandru Simon Not true brother, Aikido can attack and have attack technics that can broke your bones before you fill it.

  • @punkaddict02
    @punkaddict02 11 лет назад

    hey people have you ever heard of COMBAT AIKIDO? :) (im a combat aikido student)

  • @JonnyBauer
    @JonnyBauer 15 лет назад

    Most of seem unable to differntiate between the philosophy of Aikido and it's techniques. This is an Aikido technique, although it's used in many other styles too."Way of Harmony" doesn't entail waiting for your opponent to try and clout you so you can blend with his energy peacefully. How about ending the situation without anyone being hurt?

  • @Nerstow
    @Nerstow 14 лет назад

    Neither of those were fights. One is a dude blindsiding someone who wont fight back cause he's facing a cop, the other is a guy going a long with a demo. Aikido sure works well when people don't fight back though I suppose.

  • @adadses1979
    @adadses1979 11 лет назад

    Aikido is effective for both self defence and attack. We have two forms, ura and amotae. Both are effective. You must understand, Aikido comes from Aiki-Jujutsu and Ju Jitsu. Take the move Hajikimeosae. That is a move similar to those in Jujitsu.

  • @zumer29
    @zumer29 16 лет назад

    There was no Aikido in the clip. A guy wearing a hakama does not mean it is Aikido.

  • @recshooter
    @recshooter  15 лет назад

    It can't be an assault either because that would assume the police officer was in violation of the law. I saw him interviewed and he ddin't get in trouble. Man this is tough. I don't know what to call it to be accurate..I remember he did refer to it as "his technique" but didn't elaborate. "throat slam" The guy wasn't slammed nor was his throat. Plus that smalks of pro wrestling cultism. Right now I'm at "blank in a real parking lot blank"