I think the date for this discussion can not be correct. In the first minute one discutant says: "in some ways they gonna get rid of Gorbatschov." On the date of 23th of January 1992 he has already resign as the president of the USSR.
Do you think it is before or after Jan. 23, 1992? On the tape label was written “Jan. 23, 1991” but the person who recorded it and wrote that could have forgotten the year changed. Do you think it was 1991? If it aired early 1992, then it could have been taped any time in 1991, or even 1990.
@@vhsgraveyard8209 The discutants talking about what happend after the the Coup d'état in August 1991. They also mention the Belovezha Accords. "The Belovezha Accords (...) is the agreement declaring that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) had effectively ceased to exist and establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in its place as a successor entity." (credits to Wikipedia) These agreement was signed on 8th december 1991. For a long time, the discussion revolved around the question of whether and in what form the 15 now more or less independent Soviet republics would form a union again. Therefore, my impression is that this discussion took place before the Alma-Ata Protocol on december 21st 1991. To make a long stroy short. I am pretty convinced these discussion took place between the 8th and the 21st december 1991. I found no indicaton for the exact date.
@@Andreas-d7dAnother viewer said they are talking as if the dissolution of the Soviet Union had already occurred, which was 26 Dec 1991. Does this appear to you as being after that?
After 40 minutes in, a BBC report says Gorbachev is expected to resign, which still puts this in 1991. Also, Pozner & Donahue started as a series in 1993, but I believe this is an earlier one-off episode, so it can still be Dec. 1991.
@@vhsgraveyard8209 The Day is tough to tell from the subjects they cover, but I think it may have been December 1991. This does seem like they're talking about events shortly after Yeltsin's meeting at Belovezhkaya, which occurred on December 17, 1991.
I found the answer to the date problem, which you will notice if you happen to come back. The tape this came from had the date “Jan. 23, 1991” written on it. But the discussion in the video is after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That occurred on Christmas Day (Dec. 25), 1991. So this was Jan. 23, 1992. (Some of the later parts of the tape could be from later dates.) Apparently, whoever wrote 1991 had forgotten that it was a new year, being 1992. (People do that sometimes in January, where they forget it is a new year.)
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I think the date for this discussion can not be correct. In the first minute one discutant says: "in some ways they gonna get rid of Gorbatschov." On the date of 23th of January 1992 he has already resign as the president of the USSR.
Do you think it is before or after Jan. 23, 1992?
On the tape label was written “Jan. 23, 1991” but the person who recorded it and wrote that could have forgotten the year changed.
Do you think it was 1991?
If it aired early 1992, then it could have been taped any time in 1991, or even 1990.
@@vhsgraveyard8209 The discutants talking about what happend after the the Coup d'état in August 1991. They also mention the Belovezha Accords.
"The Belovezha Accords (...) is the agreement declaring that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) had effectively ceased to exist and establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in its place as a successor entity." (credits to Wikipedia) These agreement was signed on 8th december 1991.
For a long time, the discussion revolved around the question of whether and in what form the 15 now more or less independent Soviet republics would form a union again. Therefore, my impression is that this discussion took place before the Alma-Ata Protocol on december 21st 1991.
To make a long stroy short. I am pretty convinced these discussion took place between the 8th and the 21st december 1991. I found no indicaton for the exact date.
@@Andreas-d7d This makes sense. I am sure you are correct. It was most likely aired January of 1992 but was pre-taped in December of 1991.
@@Andreas-d7dAnother viewer said they are talking as if the dissolution of the Soviet Union had already occurred, which was 26 Dec 1991. Does this appear to you as being after that?
After 40 minutes in, a BBC report says Gorbachev is expected to resign, which still puts this in 1991.
Also, Pozner & Donahue started as a series in 1993, but I believe this is an earlier one-off episode, so it can still be Dec. 1991.
It is not 1991 !!!
I’ll fix it. What is the correct year?
@@vhsgraveyard8209 It was after the dissolution of the Soviet Union (26/12/91)
@@vhsgraveyard8209 The Day is tough to tell from the subjects they cover, but I think it may have been December 1991. This does seem like they're talking about events shortly after Yeltsin's meeting at Belovezhkaya, which occurred on December 17, 1991.
Oh shit, just looked up when this show started, Pozner & Donahue, and it was 1993, so perhaps then? Eh who cares.
I found the answer to the date problem, which you will notice if you happen to come back.
The tape this came from had the date “Jan. 23, 1991” written on it.
But the discussion in the video is after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
That occurred on Christmas Day (Dec. 25), 1991.
So this was Jan. 23, 1992. (Some of the later parts of the tape could be from later dates.)
Apparently, whoever wrote 1991 had forgotten that it was a new year, being 1992.
(People do that sometimes in January, where they forget it is a new year.)