I Bet on Horse Racing Tips for 30 Days - Betting Challenge
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- I bet on horse racing tips for 30 days via At The Races tipster Hugh Taylor. See what happened in this betting challenge. I documented the findings and explained for horse racing fans.
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Hugh Taylor's horse racing tips are believed to be the most popular in the sports betting industry.
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See how Andy Holding's betting tips compared here: ruclips.net/video/tRx5uhZzyI4/видео.html
He's absolutely brutal same as most of these bs tipsters
Question bro, for example that guy whos done the betting offers and jailed. If i have a betfred account and i have just requested the delete it with all of my data, they said that should be done in 30 days. Am i free to sign up for the welcome offer? I am then a brand new customer
Could we not rinse and repeat, sign up offers, request account deletion, and repeat ??
What of betpawa
I always thought Oddschecker was bent. Nice to have evidence to prove it.
An excellent in depth piece of work Caan. As we have always suspected impossible to get those prices that are advertised, and even if a person could they would be restricted to ridiculously small amounts. All tipsters should only be able to quote their profits at BSP and ISP and nothing else. As can be seen this is the difference when showing actually long term losing selections as winners in the long term. Price value is everything in making potential long term profits. Good work again.
That certainly is a very modern problem with bookmakers. They just don't allow winning and value, I'm sure Hugh knows this though. It's shocking how the industry has evolved over the last 10 years?.
doing them hard hours caan! 👏🏻 going that extra mile on the number crunching really reinforces the point.
to me there is only one answer, the bookies bung the tipster a few bob and he pings his tip to them first, it’s only one nag, they can adjust it slightly and obviously gauge market movement on their system and place a cover bet on the exchange just in case 😂
i dont hate many things in life but i do hate bookies. they do pay my bills though!
keep on keepin on mate!
Thanks for exposing them Caan, not surprised by this at all - great video and amazing effort to the detail
Excellent work Caan - I’ve done similar experiments too. The more you do to expose the sports book industry the better !!!
Good investigation which could only have got those results done live as you did. Retrospectively checking published tip time vs oddschecker times and odds movements wouldn't have thrown up anything fishy. Great work.
The cards are becoming increasingly stacked against the average punter, making a nice profit. The words' stitch-up' spring to mind !
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This is the industry were in. Unfortunately over the last few years it does seem to have got a lot lot worse.
Hey man, thanks a lot for showing odds in decimal. We really appreciate. Thanks
been close to doing this a few times, great video
The tipping service investigation videos have been both interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing and all your hard work Caan. Might I make a suggestion that you do a betting challenge involving invited guests. Perhaps someone who does make a living from winning bets. It would be interesting to see how a month of their tips faired versus say your own method and would be fun as a casual viewer to watch but also get insights into betting professionals and the kind of winning tips they are able to produce.
Apologies if you have done this previously and I have missed it.
Great video...i followed 1 and it was impossible to get the advised prices... Him and his followers definitely move markets.
Another amazing insight Caan
One of your best videos to date. Thank you for this 🙏
Glad you think so!
Very interesting video on this subject.
As a punter it might be worth checking out a different selection for the races Hugh selects.
Hugh Taylor usually gives a reasonable analysis of the race and a rival runner could also win and may have some value due to market difference from the selection in Hugh Taylor's column?
Today's long write ups don't mention any other horses as it happens. I don't know if that's normal or not.
I think once you understand successful betting a positive expected values. You realise quite quickly that there isn't anybody successfully predicting the future... Is all to do with price and what's available at the time. There's only one way to win and that's to get a bigger price and something is truly worth. Otherwise he's prediction artist would be playing the lottery quite successfully ☺️
Wow what a very interesting video very well researched sir 👏
Great video, really insightful. Thanks.
Thanks, Susan. Appreciate that.
Am following French Horse races, still this is for me the best channel in all the industry
Thanks!
Great Video Caan - All tipsters are the same in my opinion, boast 20-30% Roi - But you will only get on prices at 20-30% less than they report.
Have you seen William Hill fined £19m today 👏🏻
Yes I did say have you seen the previous videos about that company a year ago on this channel? It's almost like I can predict the future or something 😂
@@CaanBerryProTrader They’re all at it tbf, just nice for one to be made an example of isn’t it!
£19m is nothing to them though probably
Good Video Caan. There is no doubt Hugh is a good judge. But a waste of time following them religiously due to not being able to get advised price and Stake restrictions.
Hi Caan, following any tipster long term is a sure way to the poor house, even if Hugh Taylor is good at what he does the minute a horse is out there in the public domain the value has already gone.
And as for getting serious money on with any bookmaker, you have more chance of hitting the sun with a snowball from planet earth.
Unless you are Tony Bloom, then you might get £500,000 bets on with the likes of Star Sports.
I use the exchange but like you say the problem you have there is the Premium Charge.
With all this affordability nonsense and such like it is getting harder, and I have even found a few of my knowledgable profitable friends are even turning back the clock and going back on course, especially at the bigger festival meetings where the market is stronger..
Even after taking the over round into consideration on course they are finding they are getting accommodated and are actually better off than dealing with the premium charge even after travel and other overheads..
Very good video😊
Well done Caan great work. No shortcuts in this game. Impossible to win at this practice. Unfortunately it would appear that Hugh is taking advantage of his followers. To all punters out there if tipsters are no good u are going to lose. If they are good u won't get the price advised and as a result will also lose.
It's not a simple two-scenario situation like that. I tip privately after 10am when BOG is available in shop, markets are mature & best odds are generally available & quoting odds only from the major firms & have a ROI over 20% for a 5yr period. Its absolutely possible to make money from sports betting & consequently from following the tips of somebody who gains that edge. However, if the tipster you choose to follow posts their bets to the racing post (Segal,Kealy etc) then dont expect to make any money because the advised odds get cut, your betting history clearly shows who you're following & that's if they've gained much edge in the first place.
Have a look at the racing analyst mate great video
Can you do an interview with someone who works at a government agency who has oversight and influence to create change in the industry
Great video I want to get in horses racing better
I have been following your videos for a long time and i love it! But i have a a question!
Im trying to figure out how to count my ROI while trading on betfair. lets say I Lay 100$ on 0VER 1.5 goal to the odds 1.50. Then my risk is 50$ should I count my Stake at 100$ or should i count only the risk at 50$ when im trying to calculate my ROI%. Please help me on this one Cean!
Which part?
Mickey D is very honorable and straight forward! Also a very astute punter who knows his stuff. I’m following him about a year and he is genuine!!
Who's micky d?
@@MrLoughneagh search mickey d the bookie basher on youtube, top bloke
@@MrLoughneaghMore like Mickey M (Ouse) I suspect 😂
@@MrLoughneagh President of Ireland 🤣
Whenever I've watched Hugh talking he comes across as a decent honest type of bloke, he must realise the claims by ATR are misleading and try to do something about it, saying that he still is very good at his job, cheers.
Tf u smokin 😂😂😂😂
Trouble with taking any tip from a tipping service is bookmakers see the price at the same time as punters. If the tipster is any good most bookmakers will reduce the odds immediately. Often taking less time for the bookmaker to shorten than it does for you or any punter to find the price offered. Therefore, of course the advertised price will often (or even usually) not be available. That's not Hugh's fault, just a victim of his own success. As I understand it, Taylor only puts up a tip if believing there is a fair amount of value in it. So if bookmakers bring the odds down a bit, whether it is still value depends largely on how much difference there is in available price compared to advertised.
Anyone following a known successful tipster has accounts closed or severely restricted, in just the same way as following your trading methods will.
Even when giving value tips myself on just a racing forum, bookmakers shortened the price more often than not within a minute of putting them up.... And that's with me pressing my own bet button immediately after I'd given the tip... And it is going to be much worse for a well known tipster. If Taylor does back his own tips then that could go some way to explain why the price can sometimes appear to go before the tip is officially advertised. Frustrating though it is, I'd also expect Taylor himself or someone in the know to mop up betfair prices, explaining why exchange odds may go sooner than you might expect too. When I made something a value bet with a bookmaker that had closed or severely limited my own account, I used to tip it at the bookmaker's price while myself taking betfair odds, even if the latter was slightly shorter. Primary reason for Hugh's tips is to demonstrate it is possible for a punter to make a profit from value betting alone (no trading).
Why bring betfair SP into it? Obviously a successful tipster's tips are going to shorten. So of course the BSP is going to be much worse in most cases and therefore fail to show an overall profit at BSP Had those selections been only available at the price of those BSPs they would not have been Hugh's tip in the first place... So for someone like you - who knows the mathematics of betting - bringing BSP into judging Hugh Taylor's value tips I think is misleading. tbh Am not surprised Hugh blocked you.
Hi Hugh 😂😂😂😂😂
Lets face it, if you follow a tipster you cant expect to get on at an advised price that lasts a nano second with the bookies. This happen years ago with the pricewise tips in the racing post the internet and computor software monitoring has enabled price minipulation by the bookies. The plus is that if we see prices reductions like this its an automatic trading opportunity in my view.
My thoughts exactly Andy. If a tipster advises a horse at 4.0 & we can lay it at 3.0 or less, fill your boots!
Price wise doesn't even keep a tipping record anymore I don't think?
@@CaanBerryProTrader Probably do an Anti Gambling video soon....more lucrative 😉
Golden rule don't follow tipster
Would have been great if you worked out ew profit for any horses over 5\1
Well done caan
Caan - if you are banned from every bookie then is it only BF Exchange where you operate from?
This is a tricky one to answer in public to somebody you don't know 😆. Obviously I would never advise people to multi account or anything like that.
@@CaanBerryProTrader 😂😂😂😂😂.......er .. I mean.... of course!!!
What about if you had laid the tips on the Exchange? I guess you would be breaking even less commission.
Yes thats the issue mate, commission. People tend to think ahh lay them, but once you factor in that comm is on total winnings it looks quite different. Hope you're well!
The bookies obviously getting the tips first.
Apparently some tipsters are told what races too tip!! Pretty dodgy that
Odd question but, did you solve the Rubiks cube youself or did you watch a video showing you how to do it?
No, I couldn't get all sides. Got the first few though! In the end I looked up the algorithm.
@@CaanBerryProTrader That's how I did it. Maybe I'll be able to learn how to trade!
Afew days ago Taylor said he had a 40/1 winner but it was really 20/1 or less😢
Ever thought about doing a video about Radio 4's morning tips?
They give an annual summary each Christmas. Usually about level give or take.
@@johnristheanswer Ah, fair enough.
I thought they were going to stop doing them? The BBC have a lot of moral opinions on gambling.
@@CaanBerryProTrader Need to check in with the head of the BBC......Gary Lineker 😉
@@CaanBerryProTrader Seems to still be a thing for the time being when I listen to the morning news.
Did your auto refresher do Ctrl - F5?
Yes
TRT is the GOAT of horse racing tips no one else even comes close to him
It’s the same issue though with the prices going quickly
What do you know about Carl Harris, who is a tipster, could you please advise me of what you know or think please ?????
I'd have to look him up...
@@CaanBerryProTrader Thank you
@@CaanBerryProTrader caan please recommend any tipsters you've Vetted, please
Be good to see football betting strategy that works for vid!
Love the videos keep up the good work.
Thanks
Are the bigger tipsters influential enough to shift the price, ie the only reason BSP is lower than advised is because a few hundred/thousand punters are lobbing bets on and if they kept their tips to themselves BSP would mirror their advised price?
Clearly always been shady that they report prices noone could realistically get on at, but even shadier that they are effectively tipping off the bookies first... Days of being able to beat the bookies are fast disappearing!
Ps is there a hard rule for RUclips channels that you have to include a pic of the creator looking fake shocked in thumbnails? 😅
You would imagine that if somebody is a very good tipster the bookmakers would follow them too. That certainly true, although I find it hard to believe that they move the market significantly. If we're talking exclusively about the tipster in this video, you'll notice that they're tweets only reach 1000 to 2000 people most of the time. Unreleased the price had changed and a lot of the time only 50 people had seen the tweet... The at the races website gets a couple hundred thousand views a month though based on public estimates.
I use proform professional and the owners often list systems that work but in too their credit sometimes the systems slip into loss. With the loss they look at and find out why, when they stopped running a certain system it became profitable again, so they were under the impression that many people were using it and that pushed the price down. So in answer to our question, yes tipster followers push the prices down
I bet on 888. Whatever the odds you bet at is kept. Unless you bet 1st and 2nd
Is it possible to lose edge when these guys sell their tips?
They lose the price...
You’re a bookies nightmare and a punter’s salvation Caan..fair play to you👍..but why anyone bets on other than the exchanges is a mystery to me..the only edge you will ever find..long term..will be on the exchanges where they won’t restrict your account..but maybe subject you to a premium🙄..but that’s a different story..Exchanges are where punters need to focus..for true odds
Just lay donkeys on smarkets using compounding method
please do pip bets also known as arb hunter
I thought he did matched betting an arbs? Seems like a stand-up guy.
@@CaanBerryProTrader yeh he has this free tips on telegram and i think some paid ones. He is great though
The only people who profit from his tips are his close friends and family.
I'm not sure how much the high profile tipster can be critiqued for the betfair price initially plummeting as soon as the tip is put out, this is inevitable. As for the bookies also running scared when they know there is going to be a torrent of money for something, also not exactly surprising. I think profitable tipsters invariably become a victim of their own success.
Just like everything else in the uk betting is going down the pan.
The only edge you can gain,is if you have the knowledge to know if a horse is FIT.. & you can only do that if you are at the course.
Who cares if the horse is fit and the odds are bad? The edge is in the odds every time.
TRY PICKING YOUR OWN
I applaud the work involved in this experiment but being a first time viewer, I must be missing something. If this was about sports betting tips, I would be screaming foul! Collusion!! This is rigged!. BUT... it's not. This seems to be a hit piece on a particular touter who uses the best scenario possible as his advertising rather than his actual picks. Once again, timing is everything with SPORTS BETTING as the odds change all the time. The odds also change with horses but with one important difference. In sports betting, you get the odds at the time of publication. For horses, you get the odds at post time no matter when the bet is placed. I understand looking for value. But all it takes is for someone at a small track to lay a big bet on a long shot and you will change the odds for everyone. You can't blame the "expert" for the closing odds. Maybe things just work different here in the states. OTBs here usually go by track odds and maybe with a fee. Sometimes, if they are big enough, they will use house odds. But it's still PARIMUTUEL wagering. Ultimately, the tip needed to be a consistent winner would be being able to pick a winner. You certainly can find value, but by advertising it, you dilute the pool and lower the odds, reducing value. I would be much more interested in following someone who could actually tell me who is going to win.
So… worth laying Hugh at BSP then. Job done 😄
you need a big bank laying at the prices
The problem with that would obviously be commission... You may will find that lay in them at BSP would be a loser too.
@@CaanBerryProTrader are you able/willing to share the results spreadsheet sir?
This same '' problem '' of timing happens in the world of signs of cryptocurrencies. This ''method'' of sending late signal has already become a business model for this type of pilantras.
following a tipster that is promoted by a bookie is waste of time...simple
It's funny how they're really keen to promote betting tipsters on one hand, but on the other, if you successfully beat them, they're worried you were betting on someone else's behalf - contradiction right?
before even watching this video I know that is a scam
Sounds like it would be better to lay them all.
If anyone decides to follow a tipster they will be in the poor house in no time at all. The Bookmaker also always has the edge especially in handicaps. I was in bookmaking for many years in a small bookies in Gidea Park in Essex. From my experiences with punting I now have a slight edge on the bookmaker but don't win fortunes I find that it pays the rent each month . I like to bet on first time handicappers and distances on long odds on shots , Also stakes races are easier than hcps to work out.
The only way to win betting is don't bet at all.
Patently untrue.
The best tipsters are low-key Irish on RUclips Mickey D The Bookie Basher who gets at least between 5 and 8 winners Weekly and cold beer sports paddy merrigan ex jockey who was actually in the paper last week took the bookies for 60 grand with the real Whacker that he tipped up at 50/1 6 months ago let's see Hugh do that 😂
U won't always think that
I lost a good few quid following them. I find Conor 500 the best- and most honest.
Can anyone make money gambling if so show me the way
See the top viewed videos on the channel mate it does there!
follow indication racing for a month
Is this not fraud? Encouraging people to part with money knowing they're lying. Its basic cons
Can you follow pro sports advice for 30 days.Expose him for what he really is
Hello sir how can I contact you privately