@justinkanicki8044 who starting then 😭 Zach Wilson and Jared sitdahm battling for 2nd string Peyton would have not gotten him if he wasn’t going to start
As a UW fan, I very much feared and respected Franklin. I think he has baller written all over him at the next level, but I do worry about the body catching like you said. I also feel like Bucky Irving is way underrated going into this draft
I'm high on Tony Franklin. He may be one of those receivers that can be a threat anywhere on the field. He looks like a deep threat and a possession receiver all in one. Drafting him on my Dynasty team for sure.
I've followed this kid since high school since he was a local talent everyone knew about and who my friend personally coached; never once did I hear someone say "Bro is John Ross" then or in his time as a Duck. Putting on weight isn't hard either. But if he's a sound route-runner, blocks well and can create separation...Also, the vast majority of rookie WRs take a year or two to adjust to the NFL and their level of DB play, so there's that. Kid is projected as a late 2nd-to mid 3rd rounder last I saw, sounds appropriate tbh but he's got room to grow and may wind up with a better team/qb as a result of him slipping
I’m not a massive Troy Franklin guy because I think Bo Nix made him look better than he is but I don’t think using 40 times is great way of measuring speed
Falling down too many boards hes a baller, just has issues against press at times and he does have elite game speed so watch him be great, he's Like a calvin ridley type wr
He plays nothing like Calvin Ridley. He’s a deep threat he won’t be much of anything else coming into the league but a deep threat till he learns how to beat physical corners
@@Mokuteke light, bad hand fighting smooth feet, good route runner, faster receiver and inconsistent hands, uhm yes they are the same archetype of player, he doesn't only run deep like a Hollywood or nun, he has good route running and finds softs spots in zones, just say you haven't watched em play bro
@@Mokuteke He wont even be WR1 on his team so the most lockdown physical corner will rarely line against him or even press him. He can play from the slot as well
The primary concern I have is the fact that almost every reception I see is one in which he is wide open. At 180 lbs, he's not going to win contested catches in the NFL, & that is what most receivers live on. The windows in the league are way smaller. Maybe we can say he shook coverage & separated well in college, but the chances of that in the NFL are much less. Can he operate in the slot? That's where he'll play in the NFL with Denver.
I dont love franklin as much as you do, (partially due to the drops and press but also because a lot of his production came vs coverage busts and his weight. I also think his stop routes are kinda clunky which for a deepthreat isnt great) i have a third on him. I see shades of gabe davis/will fuller/darius slayton type of with him. But i think youve done a great job at highlighting his strengths (as usual)
His stop routes are fine - plenty of tape of him cutting back to the ball in just 3 steps - and Gabe Davis would be jealous of the crispness of these routes. The drops are a concern and I really REALLY dislike body catching - but gamespeed is the ultimate tool - and if you can get over the top with both speed and route running ability, you're gonna be a dangerous threat.
@@abhaypancharathi3866 that’s the only difference between the two. Everything else is the same. Down to the way to breakdown and all. Franklin like Hyatt can only win with speed at the moment his routes aren’t anything special at a nfl level although he is capable of running more routes then Hyatt
@@ThinkingFootball fair enough. Gabe is the worse routerunner but i was thinking of when tfg said “he can be gabe davis and take the top off”. With how often he thrives off of coverage busts and big plays its a bit of a lazy comp (so is comping him to three different players i see shades of) but i do see some elements of their game being similar Im curious if theres any prospects you’re going to cover that are projected to go day 3 that you have much higher. Think that would be pretty cool
only thing is that he will have to play lower in the NFL. Can't be so high up when trying to cut the space between the DB or else hes gonna get hands on
Lmaooo. Franklin before nabers video. That’s saying something. Can we please get some offensive, defensive line videos! Draft is cumming soon. Keep the great content cumming Goats!
@@ThinkingFootballouch.... yes I remember your videos were incredibly deep in analytics, strategy, etc.... was a matter of time before someone made a fuss
Sound like it, doesn't look like it tho. The tape here was really good and accurate. I don't know how you can say "dang it Bo" when the dude hits you in the chest 30 yards down field whilst running to his right and throwing off platform. Keep the same energy for Maye
Ladd is 1000% better. Its not even close lmao the gap between laad and franklin is further then the gap between laad and rome. Its not even close, hes a whole tier or two above him
@@Aburner960 you guys are crazy & are u white?? Real question cause only white guys say this, I just don’t understand how you can say this, Ladd will go late 2nd or early 3rd round, Franklin is a WAY better WR, Ladd will be a nice slot receiver 50 catch to 60 catches a yr 800 at best in his career, he’ll be lucky to ever get 1k
Ladd ran a faster 40 while being a better route runner and being 20 pounds heavier and his film is against sec defense while Franklin’s is going against the worst defensive conference in D1
Love the video but you're making it sound like Bo is inaccurate somehow. I'm sorry but he was on point pretty much every time. The "dang it Bo" for a throw where he hits his receiver in the chest for a 30+ yard gain whilst running to his right and throwing off platform is baffling to me. Keep the same energy for Maye who can't throw an accurate ball to save his life
We call as we see it, and on deep balls to Franklin, Bo failed to lea on multiple occasions (if he didn't turn it down for a checkdown). He's accurate in the short areas if a little late at times, but that doesn't mean he doesn't struggle to put the ball out in front And yes, I absolutely called out Drake Maye for his misplacements too
@@ThinkingFootball I get that the ball could've been placed better but it was definitely good enough, NFL level if you ask me. Respect he opinion, disagree on the outcome. Keep making the great content boys 👍🏼
I see why people are projecting him to go in the first round, but he gives me Quentin Johnston vibes, and I wasn’t that high on him last year. Franklin’s better than Johnston, but I wouldn’t draft him in the first round.
Outside of the body catching I just don't get this comp They have different builds, Franklin is an infinitely better route runner with a experience running the full tree, consistently gets separation on them and is way faster
@@ThinkingFootball Also, I agree that they’re different players. It’s just the fact that they’re both getting first round buzz despite the drops. That worries me.
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How many receivers get drafted in the first round?
25
Eight, and Franklin’s not gonna be one of them. Not a knock against him. I like him, but I just like eight receivers more.
@@Dawg-Bonewho are the eight?
@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEastim guessing hes thinking MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Adonai, Ladd, Legette and either Keon Coleman or Xavier worthy?
@@Clt._dazai Worthy
So happy Denver got Troy. He will be a perfect security blaket for Nix due to their chemistry
Too bad nix won't start
@justinkanicki8044 who starting then 😭 Zach Wilson and Jared sitdahm battling for 2nd string Peyton would have not gotten him if he wasn’t going to start
You do not pick someone at 12 overall to have them sit. Right???
Great content. Busted out a bamboozled in a big bass voice of authority. My brother.
He’s a third rounder
That's the most concise analysis on him I've heard yet..Wow, Broncos could use you on their staff..
Hope reigns in Denver once more!
We Broncos fans hit the next fantastic era
Our videos should be used to teach NFL, talking heads how to talk about players, not just the good. You are on point..
The fact he will be a 4th round pick is absolutely crazy. My Broncos should jump on the call and trade up to pair with his best friend Bo
You called it
As a receiver, two most critical things are hands and separation. He drops but can get separation, so he's half decent.
You're saying he's a chief 😎
@@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645 or a Bronco.
@@goosinator6066 :) nix and him at the broncos? ring in 3 years
He has shown good flashes of using his hands, so we know he can do it, just needs to be more consistent doing it
@@chipjones5570 I want some of what you're smokin'
The effort in the run-blocking game is really impressive
He’s a third round talent
@@123shoshan I mean sure but that doesn't take away from the effort in blocking lol
@@123shoshan I can name plenty of elite WR's drafted in the mid to late rounds.
@@123shoshanPuka Nacua was selected in the 5th round and the rams picked him bc they were in love with his run blocking
Broncos fan here. Need too know when that Bo Nix video is dropping
I've been watching this channel off & on for over a year now. You've gotten better at these.
As a UW fan, I very much feared and respected Franklin. I think he has baller written all over him at the next level, but I do worry about the body catching like you said. I also feel like Bucky Irving is way underrated going into this draft
Bucky Irving isn't meant for the NFL. He's too slow, too small, and doesn't break tackles consistently.
@@PlaySA Bucky looks faster on film and in person than Corum, but we will see
Welcome to the city that's a Mile Higher than the competition. LFG!!!
Bro, much love and respect for the time and skills you devote to your channel. These videos show your eval craft is NFL scouting caliber!🏈😎👍🏾
He needs to improve his route running and use his speed as an asset, as everyone is fast in the NFL. However, I still believe in him. Love this pick!!
Let’s go Broncos!
BO AND TROY ARE BOTH DENVER BRONCOS!!!
This video🔥😩🔥
Well said go denver
Enjoy the content, thanks guys great as always!
I'm high on Tony Franklin. He may be one of those receivers that can be a threat anywhere on the field. He looks like a deep threat and a possession receiver all in one. Drafting him on my Dynasty team for sure.
great video and analysis...lets just hope hes a Bill by the end of today!
thanks for the informative vid, hopefully the pats can get a nice wideout this year
a fellow troy franklin truther lets go
Mr. Franklin is so much more of a threat than the world admits!!
Bo an frank bout to go crazyy as a bronco
Day 3…wow.
WELCOME TO DENVER!!!
Welcome to #BroncosCountry Franklin & Nix!!!
I think BYU is the Cougars….another great video
Bo getting exposed in this viddy low key
Nothin no nfl team hasn’t seen yet especially in the afc west
I hope my panthers are able to snag him early in the second round
Everyone was expecting Troy Franlin to run in the 4'2's. Dude ran a 4.4 💀 At 176Ibs thats going to kill his draft stock.
@@Unsealed_Prods So how come he didn't run again during his Pro Day?
I've followed this kid since high school since he was a local talent everyone knew about and who my friend personally coached; never once did I hear someone say "Bro is John Ross" then or in his time as a Duck. Putting on weight isn't hard either. But if he's a sound route-runner, blocks well and can create separation...Also, the vast majority of rookie WRs take a year or two to adjust to the NFL and their level of DB play, so there's that. Kid is projected as a late 2nd-to mid 3rd rounder last I saw, sounds appropriate tbh but he's got room to grow and may wind up with a better team/qb as a result of him slipping
I’m not a massive Troy Franklin guy because I think Bo Nix made him look better than he is but I don’t think using 40 times is great way of measuring speed
@@liambeast21 🤨 Why not? And what is a great way to measure speed if not 40 times, and please don't say game film.
@@doctorfresh3856 Because GPS is a much more accurate indicator of how fast a player plays in game
this aged very well
He’s a Denver Bronco!
Falling down too many boards hes a baller, just has issues against press at times and he does have elite game speed so watch him be great, he's Like a calvin ridley type wr
He plays nothing like Calvin Ridley. He’s a deep threat he won’t be much of anything else coming into the league but a deep threat till he learns how to beat physical corners
@@Mokuteke light, bad hand fighting smooth feet, good route runner, faster receiver and inconsistent hands, uhm yes they are the same archetype of player, he doesn't only run deep like a Hollywood or nun, he has good route running and finds softs spots in zones, just say you haven't watched em play bro
@@Mokuteke He wont even be WR1 on his team so the most lockdown physical corner will rarely line against him or even press him. He can play from the slot as well
@@treeinch252 he’s no slot wr he short route tree isn’t refined. He’s a deep ball catcher he’s a Z and on the broncos he’s at worst the #2 wr
Bronco fans all here
Calling the BYU db ah “missionary” had me cryin😂
Watching this after he fell to day 3
Hoping my Falcons take him
Watching this after he got reunited with Nix.
Please drop to 51 the steelers need you 😭😭🙏🙏
I almost guarantee he wont be taken that low. But ig you never know.
The Chiefs will probably pick him up
Anyone here after he got drafted by the Broncos?
You
#4 WR in the draft, if the Chiefs get this guy omg theyll get the explosion back that left with Tyreek
Your an idiot if you think he in anyway better then AD or BT or Ladd all of which are just as fast while being heavier and having better route running
No you take Ladd who has no weaknesses Franklin is wr 7 if Ladd had no injury concerns he’d be wr 3 or 4
@@dereksmidl8352 no you take Troy
@@themoneyman1752 but Ladd is the better talent playing at better competition why is this even a debate??
@@dereksmidl8352 There is no debate Franklin is the better player
The primary concern I have is the fact that almost every reception I see is one in which he is wide open. At 180 lbs, he's not going to win contested catches in the NFL, & that is what most receivers live on. The windows in the league are way smaller. Maybe we can say he shook coverage & separated well in college, but the chances of that in the NFL are much less. Can he operate in the slot? That's where he'll play in the NFL with Denver.
Chiefs do love a blocking wr though
Franklin with Sutton, Mims, and Patrick
Reminds me of Devonta Smith quite a bit
Can you do one on either legette or adonai mitchell?
I will be disappointed in the league if Legette doesn’t get drafted in the first round
Xavier and Adonai will both be dropping next week
@@ThinkingFootballmajor W
@@Dawg-BoneThen you dont know football value picks vs reaching for players nobody takes yet
And. He gone😂
I dont love franklin as much as you do, (partially due to the drops and press but also because a lot of his production came vs coverage busts and his weight. I also think his stop routes are kinda clunky which for a deepthreat isnt great) i have a third on him. I see shades of gabe davis/will fuller/darius slayton type of with him. But i think youve done a great job at highlighting his strengths (as usual)
His stop routes are fine - plenty of tape of him cutting back to the ball in just 3 steps - and Gabe Davis would be jealous of the crispness of these routes.
The drops are a concern and I really REALLY dislike body catching - but gamespeed is the ultimate tool - and if you can get over the top with both speed and route running ability, you're gonna be a dangerous threat.
He basically Jaylin Hyatt clone
@@Mokuteke no lol troy's route tree is far more developed than hyatt at tennessee
@@abhaypancharathi3866 that’s the only difference between the two. Everything else is the same. Down to the way to breakdown and all. Franklin like Hyatt can only win with speed at the moment his routes aren’t anything special at a nfl level although he is capable of running more routes then Hyatt
@@ThinkingFootball fair enough. Gabe is the worse routerunner but i was thinking of when tfg said “he can be gabe davis and take the top off”. With how often he thrives off of coverage busts and big plays its a bit of a lazy comp (so is comping him to three different players i see shades of) but i do see some elements of their game being similar
Im curious if theres any prospects you’re going to cover that are projected to go day 3 that you have much higher. Think that would be pretty cool
Welcome to Buffalo!
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Round 4
Day 1???
I hope the gia'ts will draft Joe Alt and trade up to catch him
only thing is that he will have to play lower in the NFL. Can't be so high up when trying to cut the space between the DB or else hes gonna get hands on
Lmaooo. Franklin before nabers video. That’s saying something. Can we please get some offensive, defensive line videos! Draft is cumming soon. Keep the great content cumming Goats!
I'm not allowed to post SEC film to YT sadly
@@ThinkingFootballouch.... yes I remember your videos were incredibly deep in analytics, strategy, etc.... was a matter of time before someone made a fuss
@@ThinkingFootballWhy not? 🤨
@@doctorfresh3856SEC Coaches won’t allow film to be posted… worried it will expose their schemes n shit.
@@doctorfresh3856 Certain individuals got annoyed at us last year for explaining their scheme
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Chiefs pick 32😤🔥
Troy Franklin is MVS 2.0 HARD PASS
he remind me of rashod Bateman
Sounds like Bo Nix has some serious ball placement issues 😂
Sound like it, doesn't look like it tho. The tape here was really good and accurate. I don't know how you can say "dang it Bo" when the dude hits you in the chest 30 yards down field whilst running to his right and throwing off platform. Keep the same energy for Maye
To be honest maybe 1 of the throws he says is inaccurate is actually inaccurate a lot are Troy Franklin being undisciplined with his routes
If he were faster and thicker yeah he’d be wr 4 or 5 but Ladd is the better athlete and more pro ready to play anywhere in any scheme
Now I see why the Jets like this kid
glad you brought up blocking. no one ever does with him. you have to block to play at oregon. dan don’t play that 😂 got them moving like uga and bama
this guy is fool's gold
Running a 4.40 doesn’t matter. He has game speed and elite route running. Hope my chiefs grab him in round 2
Do lad mcconkey
Denver Broncos
He's a deep threat. definitely a tad to weak to be a 1. So I see Hollywood brown
He's going to KC
Imagine Baltimore gets him 💀
make a bo nix video
Future Steeler😂
He’s what mecole was supposed to be but that’s not nearly a top 5 wr in this class
This dude was trying to argue with me saying Ladd McConkey is better than Franklin LMFAO
@lnodlt173 yeah ok, you don’t know football if you can watch both of their highlights or film & say Ladd is better it’s favoritism
@@themoneyman1752saying someone doesn’t know football and using highlights as your reasoning for your opinion…
Ladd is 1000% better. Its not even close lmao the gap between laad and franklin is further then the gap between laad and rome. Its not even close, hes a whole tier or two above him
@@Aburner960 you guys are crazy & are u white?? Real question cause only white guys say this, I just don’t understand how you can say this, Ladd will go late 2nd or early 3rd round, Franklin is a WAY better WR, Ladd will be a nice slot receiver 50 catch to 60 catches a yr 800 at best in his career, he’ll be lucky to ever get 1k
Ladd ran a faster 40 while being a better route runner and being 20 pounds heavier and his film is against sec defense while Franklin’s is going against the worst defensive conference in D1
The Bronco Fans have been badmouthing Bo and Troy. They aren’t intelligent enough to understand the Talent in Oregon is excellent.
lmao couldnt be further from the truth
Love the video but you're making it sound like Bo is inaccurate somehow. I'm sorry but he was on point pretty much every time. The "dang it Bo" for a throw where he hits his receiver in the chest for a 30+ yard gain whilst running to his right and throwing off platform is baffling to me. Keep the same energy for Maye who can't throw an accurate ball to save his life
We call as we see it, and on deep balls to Franklin, Bo failed to lea on multiple occasions (if he didn't turn it down for a checkdown).
He's accurate in the short areas if a little late at times, but that doesn't mean he doesn't struggle to put the ball out in front
And yes, I absolutely called out Drake Maye for his misplacements too
@@ThinkingFootball I get that the ball could've been placed better but it was definitely good enough, NFL level if you ask me. Respect he opinion, disagree on the outcome. Keep making the great content boys 👍🏼
He's a first-round pick. Kc draft him 32.
He’s a Charger
No Bronco
I see why people are projecting him to go in the first round, but he gives me Quentin Johnston vibes, and I wasn’t that high on him last year. Franklin’s better than Johnston, but I wouldn’t draft him in the first round.
Outside of the body catching I just don't get this comp
They have different builds, Franklin is an infinitely better route runner with a experience running the full tree, consistently gets separation on them and is way faster
@@ThinkingFootball Good points. That’s why I think Franklin’s better.
@@ThinkingFootball Also, I agree that they’re different players. It’s just the fact that they’re both getting first round buzz despite the drops. That worries me.
Tooo slow for his size and too many drops
Bo nix trash lmfao
1st round
Says the imbecile team who just drafted Mitch Trubisky 2.0 LMAO
Ladd over Franklin every single time