What! even the MG has it? I thought Focals QC would've improved by now. I really don't understand why audio enthusiasts, keep recommending them. Doesn't matter how good the sound is, the product has to be reliable too at those prices.
@@Etem92 I'd only ever heard great things about Focal and got sucked in by the hype. I never researched if there were any QC issues or anything like that and then 6 weeks in, out of nowhere any bass made the driver clip like crazy.
@@Etem92 they all have it. And it has not been fixed as one of the commenters in the comments has said , he just got lucky with his. They all clip ... Right up to the utopia. Every single one. Focal is horrendous
@@mikylenaidoo1779 I picked up a Focal Radiance, absolutely no clipping even at higher than safe listening volumes. It’s made me want to sell my utopia because it’s just a more pleasurable headphone to listen to now and honestly the dynamics and clarity is probably 90% of the Utopia.
when I tested utopias with my A2 beyerdynamic amp they clipped on konga fury (animatrix soundtrack). The clears passed that test. This might be a defective unit... the lcd-x / lcd-3 / lcd-4 passed the test and I ended up buying the x for their precision
Hi! Can I please ask if you find the highend of lcd X a bit lower than clear mg pro? I’m working as a mixer and I decided to go with either clear mg pro or lcd x
@@hristopavlov4849 hi sorry for late answer, go for X, they can handle as much as you want (even +10db bass boost and more), and they are easy to hold for long time, I mean mantaining the headphones.... all focals are very prone to get dirty from head oils and dust... and they cant go that low (bass) as Audeze, because mechanical clipping will occur, go for Audeze LCD X (2021 version best)
i can confirm this has been fixed on the newer versions for 2022 little happy lil sad survive is not a problem, and billie eilish Bad guy is now no longer a problem, assuming youre listening to your music at a normal volume >_>
Mine will clip if I listen to bass heavy music well above 100db wich is past hearing damage range these cans definitely have earned the name clear I absolutely love mine for everything but hip hop I use meze 99 for that
Man this is crazy you do the exact same thing I do same HP’s and everything I love my meze cans for bass heavy stuff I’m looking into campfire cascades in the near future for bass heavy stuff but for anything other than hip hop rap whatever you wanna call it it’s focal all day long I now know why they call them clears
I wrote few words to Focal about this if they respond that im listening to loud gonna piss me off like hell, for fuck sake cheap headphones can handle more power
@@soulfulfool yes and the maintance thing too, they got dirty very soon from head oil etc.. the stock sound was very good, but I hated that I had to stay alerted on every song "if its not too loud"... very annoying
@@tomastrchalik6791 yea I know when volume knob is in 'danger' area, clipping can get agressive towards our hearing, OmenXIII - anonymous is my track for testing bass if headphones can handle that they can handle any bass :) but be careful Clear can clip like mad playing it
unacceptable that a pair of headphones at that price has a limiter on excursion. You're not my medic focal, i just want good headphones, and if i want to listen to music at high volumes once in a while, guess what! It's none of your effin business. I recently bought some elegia, if they have this problem i will immediately refund them. Doesn't matter how good they sound.
yes exactly that was the issue.. they played nice, but sometimes i want to crank up volume and what... I should be feared every second that my ear can pop and I jump from chair? I cant enjoy music with that fear.. got myself LCD X now and they can take VERY deep bass edit: really really deep bass, its like subwoofer when I want it to be
One of the reasons to buy Focal is for their bass punch and slam, imagine telling your customers to turn down the volume or their expensive headphone will break...
@@johnt3500 I think it’s just them covering their asses, I bet they know it’s a problem but can’t admit to it because it would be financially disastrous to RMA tens of thousands of HPs. I still love the sound and I feel blessed I got a Radiance without the problem while my Utopia has the issue. If you’re willing to take the lottery and hope you win, they are honestly one of the best, most natural HPs on the market. I will say for what it’s worth it’s only on very specific songs I run into the clipping problem on the Utopia like the Bladerunner 2049 opening track. Coincidentally these same songs will clip on some of my Beyerdynamics like the DT990 so badly mastered songs does play a big part too.
@@tomastrchalik6791 how you liking the lcdx? Im in same situation the clear mg is clipping and im thinking of replacing with the lcdx. And did you buy a balanced cable for the lcd?
@@jlittleton4241 I very like th LCD X, they can do everything you want them to - they can be subwoofer! Yes i recently upgraded to xlr, but its the same, no placebo no better sound :D. The literaly best thing is they dont clip whatever bass you boost or volume boost, they just handle all. Get Em!
@@tomastrchalik6791 hi! I’m very glad you’re enjoying your pair of LCD X can I please ask about the clarity of the highend/upper mid of the lcd x and overall is it significantly lower than the focal clear mg pro ? Thanks 🙏🏻
I got 7 pairs of headphones 2 amps and several cables for Clear not mention that I know my music, they clip because driver is defective or even both, cant believe that drivers are so shit and cant handle bass for that price
Focal Clippers
haha if they cant make drivers that can handle bass maybe they should stop making headphones
Just returned my Clear MGs for the exact same issue. Definitely a more common problem than I thought it would be
What! even the MG has it? I thought Focals QC would've improved by now. I really don't understand why audio enthusiasts, keep recommending them. Doesn't matter how good the sound is, the product has to be reliable too at those prices.
@@Etem92 I'd only ever heard great things about Focal and got sucked in by the hype. I never researched if there were any QC issues or anything like that and then 6 weeks in, out of nowhere any bass made the driver clip like crazy.
@@_EchoPoint sad story also for me, mine clip only at higher volume with specific tracks but still its not fully working drivers
@@Etem92 they all have it. And it has not been fixed as one of the commenters in the comments has said , he just got lucky with his. They all clip ... Right up to the utopia. Every single one. Focal is horrendous
@@mikylenaidoo1779 I picked up a Focal Radiance, absolutely no clipping even at higher than safe listening volumes. It’s made me want to sell my utopia because it’s just a more pleasurable headphone to listen to now and honestly the dynamics and clarity is probably 90% of the Utopia.
when I tested utopias with my A2 beyerdynamic amp they clipped on konga fury (animatrix soundtrack). The clears passed that test. This might be a defective unit...
the lcd-x / lcd-3 / lcd-4 passed the test and I ended up buying the x for their precision
Hi! Can I please ask if you find the highend of lcd X a bit lower than clear mg pro? I’m working as a mixer and I decided to go with either clear mg pro or lcd x
there is no way in the world that Audeze could fail at bass test ;) my Clears are alsoo broken like that
@@hristopavlov4849 hi sorry for late answer, go for X, they can handle as much as you want (even +10db bass boost and more), and they are easy to hold for long time, I mean mantaining the headphones.... all focals are very prone to get dirty from head oils and dust... and they cant go that low (bass) as Audeze, because mechanical clipping will occur, go for Audeze LCD X (2021 version best)
@@tomastrchalik6791 thank you very much! I actually ordered lcd X a couple days ago 🙏🏻
@@hristopavlov4849 nice! you did a great decision
Damn that sucks, makes me worried af about Focal and Hifiman headphones lmao
No lower priced headphones do this crap. Focal prices 1000+ headphones and they can't even work without issues a 100 headphone never runs into.
i can confirm this has been fixed on the newer versions for 2022 little happy lil sad survive is not a problem, and billie eilish Bad guy is now no longer a problem, assuming youre listening to your music at a normal volume >_>
Newer versions ? you mean the MG ?
Mine will clip if I listen to bass heavy music well above 100db wich is past hearing damage range these cans definitely have earned the name clear I absolutely love mine for everything but hip hop I use meze 99 for that
Man this is crazy you do the exact same thing I do same HP’s and everything I love my meze cans for bass heavy stuff I’m looking into campfire cascades in the near future for bass heavy stuff but for anything other than hip hop rap whatever you wanna call it it’s focal all day long I now know why they call them clears
I wrote few words to Focal about this if they respond that im listening to loud gonna piss me off like hell, for fuck sake cheap headphones can handle more power
yep, got similar answer from my dealer
@@tomastrchalik6791 well its my last episode with that company
@@soulfulfool yes and the maintance thing too, they got dirty very soon from head oil etc.. the stock sound was very good, but I hated that I had to stay alerted on every song "if its not too loud"... very annoying
@@tomastrchalik6791 yea I know when volume knob is in 'danger' area, clipping can get agressive towards our hearing, OmenXIII - anonymous is my track for testing bass if headphones can handle that they can handle any bass :) but be careful Clear can clip like mad playing it
@@tomastrchalik6791 Focal said quality over SPL, lower your volume haha
You gotta be pushing them super hard mine will clip but it’s gotta be well above 100db
lil happy lil sad - survive...? try
I had 2 MGs. They clipped like hell. This problem is NOT fixed!
unacceptable that a pair of headphones at that price has a limiter on excursion.
You're not my medic focal, i just want good headphones, and if i want to listen to music at high volumes once in a while, guess what! It's none of your effin business.
I recently bought some elegia, if they have this problem i will immediately refund them. Doesn't matter how good they sound.
yes exactly that was the issue.. they played nice, but sometimes i want to crank up volume and what... I should be feared every second that my ear can pop and I jump from chair? I cant enjoy music with that fear.. got myself LCD X now and they can take VERY deep bass
edit: really really deep bass, its like subwoofer when I want it to be
its design feature lol. Focal themselves said that you shouldnt listen too loud lol.
haha dont listen too loud "our drivers are little weak shits" 🤣 Focal being pathetic
One of the reasons to buy Focal is for their bass punch and slam, imagine telling your customers to turn down the volume or their expensive headphone will break...
@@johnt3500 I think it’s just them covering their asses, I bet they know it’s a problem but can’t admit to it because it would be financially disastrous to RMA tens of thousands of HPs. I still love the sound and I feel blessed I got a Radiance without the problem while my Utopia has the issue. If you’re willing to take the lottery and hope you win, they are honestly one of the best, most natural HPs on the market. I will say for what it’s worth it’s only on very specific songs I run into the clipping problem on the Utopia like the Bladerunner 2049 opening track. Coincidentally these same songs will clip on some of my Beyerdynamics like the DT990 so badly mastered songs does play a big part too.
Weird, I can only get mine to clip at ear deafening volumes
mine clip at higher volume but not deafening volume
Yikes... I would hope they send a replacement?
i replaced them today with LCD X 2021 :P
@@tomastrchalik6791 how you liking the lcdx? Im in same situation the clear mg is clipping and im thinking of replacing with the lcdx. And did you buy a balanced cable for the lcd?
@@jlittleton4241 I very like th LCD X, they can do everything you want them to - they can be subwoofer! Yes i recently upgraded to xlr, but its the same, no placebo no better sound :D. The literaly best thing is they dont clip whatever bass you boost or volume boost, they just handle all. Get Em!
@@tomastrchalik6791 hi! I’m very glad you’re enjoying your pair of LCD X can I please ask about the clarity of the highend/upper mid of the lcd x and overall is it significantly lower than the focal clear mg pro ? Thanks 🙏🏻
@@hristopavlov4849 before you buy Clear better take some bass heavy music and test them
Pardon my ignorance but how does one know that it is clipping? What should i be looking for?
I think it's with the bass hits.
@@twogluon thanks man. I hear it now that I'm on my headphones
@@mukulr1616 depend how dense bass is some of rap music can make them clip very badly
Is that some self recorded/mastered music? Maybe your mastering is Just clipping
I got 7 pairs of headphones 2 amps and several cables for Clear not mention that I know my music, they clip because driver is defective or even both, cant believe that drivers are so shit and cant handle bass for that price
Bad luck I guess.