Your 37s is what’s cooking your transmission. The high temp transmission light doesn’t come on until it’s really hot you most likely have burnt fluid which reduces lubrication you should change out the fluid
I own a 22 tundra limited hybrid with 15k miles out on it now, and I honestly feel that the lag you are feeling is due to the engine ECU being programmed for a hybrid motor to be installed. I have heard about this lag alot with many non-hybrid owners, but owning the hybrid I can tell you that the "lag" you feel is removed by the hybrid motor on initial accelerating then the engine kicks on and it's such a smooth transition. It's like they never account for that and just did a standard program for all engines hybrid or not.
Great video_ I recently bought a Limited 4WD TRD OR (NH)- and I really like it (Ive driven it 2 weeks now. The truck was built in August of 2022 and I have not had any lag issues. I had a 2007 Tundra SR5 so I also was impressed by all the cool gadgets the new truck has as you were. I bought It with 17 K miles so It was helpful to hear your year review. Nice looking truck.
Great video. I have a 2022 SR5 off road. Already have over 100,000km on it. I agree with you on the box shaking. The front of my box, just behind the cab, has started to crack. I have seen this on another Gen 3 tundra as well.
Yes crawl control got me out of some deep snow and deep sand when 4 low with locker engaged could not. Gorgeous truck! BC looks amazing. That sucks about the bed I hope someone finds a solution someday
I definitely agree that the throttle lag in the regular driving mode is pretty bad. I switch to sport mode any time I will be on highways and it seems to clean it up a lot. Do you think the overheating issues have anything to do with being on 37's? I am running 33's and have a bit over 25k on my truck including several long road trips and the New Mexico Backcountry Discovery Route and I have never had that issue
It's the high-stall torque converter they use that causes excessive heat when it slips. Best bet is to slap it in tow/haul mode or manual shift mode so it can hold lower gears longer. If off-roading, 4-Lo will cut down on a lot the overheating warnings as well.
Funny you mention the flat belly... Like a 2005 Nissan Xterra... I love how the front end looks with the cut and bumper. Sounds like Toyota has some major work to do with the tundra still.
There is a TSB Update for the throttle lag as well as the start up clunk noise you get every once in a while. They are the same TSB code. Your local dealer should know the code. It took care of both of these issues for me.
Also if you replace the silver tie down points in the bed of the truck with a higher quality set it should take care of the rattle. It is not actually the bed rattling. It worked for a few other RUclipsrs, I have yet to try it myself.
Just curious, and the order of the mods may not have been right to find this out, did you have the transmission cooling issue with the 37s but before the bumper install? It does look like it blocks some of the airflow to the bottom of the radiator where those integrated ATF coolers typically live. If it was already borderline with the big tires, a little loss in airflow might be the final straw. Unrelated, my buddy just got back with some fuel cans and a trasharoo from your shop for me, stoked for the goodies so thank you!
It's a good point, and honestly one that I hadn't really thought too much about. That could definitely be a part of it! Maybe I'll try relocating the tranny cooler up higher and see if it makes a difference!
Something up with that overheating tranny. I’ve hauled/towed a lot with my 22 OR including towing 6000lb with a loaded bed in 45’c temps through the Cascades highway. If there was a time for an overheat that would be it.
I think toyota is still having issues perfecting modern transmissions. My 3rd gen taco was terrible in that trans. I traded for a manual. I now have a 5th gen rav4, and it does the same random lag you described on the tundra.
How's the manoeuvrability of the tundra like in tight space? I currently have a Tacoma I like the nimbleness the truck but other than that it is not strong enough to howl my boat in the woods and all my other task. I'm afraid of missing the size of the tacoma in the city and in tigh space but you coming from a tacoma how was you experience in these situation ?
Honestly it's about the same, but I had the DCLB tacoma with long travel and 37s, so realistically it was close to the same size, just the body was narrower. The back up camera makes parallel parking a lot easier than in my taco as well.
So far run them in dirt, pavement, sand, rain, snow, and some mud and they have been fantastic. Probably my favourite tire I've run so far. The only problem with them is they are super expensive.
I've done worse than what you described about the transmission over heating. I've not had that happen to me. I've pulled up and over the rocky mountains in Colorado and I offroad alot too. The throttle lag I fully agree and I've taken it in and they say it's normal cause it's a teen speed transmission.
I think the 37s are likely the biggest contributing factor, and a regear would probably help. Though I ran 37s on my 2006 Tacoma for years without overheating issues
@@OverlandOutfittersoverheating could also be the bumper blocking the trans cooler airflow perhaps… getting 19-20 mpg on my 23 stock 1794 TRD off-road around town
There is no way your tranny should be over heating I have a 22 sr5 and tow a 16 ft trailer and have up to 11k lbs and never had a issue with over heating. Take that back to Toyota and demand they fix it along with the bed rattling. I hate rattling noise in new trucks. Tell ‘em to fix it! Overall I love my new tundra no issues so far! Oh and I get 14 miles per gallon while Towing and 17 when combined without it.
The auto braking and the gas mileage really get annoying to me. My 2016 Ram got almost 5mpg higher. That being said I do LOVE my Tundra. With a little work the thing is a beast for it’s size.
Was it crawl control that "saved" you, or the multi terrain select that adjusted ATRAC? I think ATRAC is tits, but crawl control itself I don't understand the need or desire.
That would be annoying if my bed was vibrating but for the money you get what you pay for i bought a fx4 ecoboost in 2014 it has 120 thousand miles on it and i love it its a strong built truck and its before they whent to the aluminum so feel like i got a special one .2014 was the best year for the 150 3.5 ecobeast .
Never had an overheating issue stock, but with the upgrades, it has been frequent. @dwong506 brought up a good point about the bumper blocking some of the transmission cooler, which could lead to some more cooling issues as well. I may have to play around with that.
The front grille is ugly. The front end/hood is too long. The panel gaps are unacceptable. It’s not a V8. The back seat is smaller than the previous generation. Quality issues such as rubber window seals coming off. Subpar interior build quality. Other than that it’s great.
@@TheKeeganc man I would stick with the 5.7L. Proven drivetrain with lots of power. In real world driving these I4/V6 turbos don’t get good gas mileage.
Had the bed of my 2019 Tacoma come loose, play in the bushings/composite. Dealership warrantied it after 3 seperate visits. That was at 40k, now 80k and I can feel play again. Please I would buy your solution!
@@OverlandOutfitters I think you should. You know Toyota guys like to buy all sorts of shit, needed or not, lol. Someone that fixes a real problem should be a great seller, until it gets copied!
For the throttle lag get a pedal commander. It makes it feel like you truck gained 100 hp. The commander has many settings for sensitivity and just plugs into the fly by wire connector by the gas pedal. You will love it.
I had a pedal commander on my 18 and after 4 years if failed and caused all kinds of CPU errors/issues/emerg braking etc. Removed it and everything cleared up.
I was running a similar product, the pedalbox, because I thought it would help, but it didn't change the throttle lag at all, just made the pedal way too sensitive for my driving style. I ended up taking it out
@@OverlandOutfitters That is strange. I run a sprint booster ( same as pedal commander)and it is fully adjustable from stock up to extremely sensitive. I have a sprint booster on my zr2 and it made a world of difference otherwise a tune will help. Not sure what there is for the tundra but the colorados have trifecta tune and if fixes the god awful 8l45 transmission
@@punkin314 Look at the Banks Pedal Monster, unlike PC and others it gets power form odb2, not the pedal itself and if it does lose power it returns to stock.
Yep! Been slowly chipping away at it. LS3, Cage, Trailing arms, tube chassis back half, 39's, etc. Gunna be rad when it's done, just haven't had as much time as I'd like to work on it!
I have never been a fan of the new 22+ Tundras. I think they are the ugliest truck Toyota could ever put out. That being said, this is by far the best looking of the 22+ Tundras I have seen to date.
Never buy a new vehicle from any manufacturer it’s not worth the probability it may be a dud. Give this truck a few years for the engineers to improve it a bit. Despite Toyotas great rep I’d rather have a naturally aspirated engine.
Thats how everyone with shit fuel economy justifies it, "you dont buy a truck like this for fuel economy" ah bullshit i overland my truck, fuel economy is huge!
Check out the transmission cooler I installed on my 23 tundra. Had the same overheating issue before the cooler. ruclips.net/video/iCU3VDyVJNw/видео.html
that engine is a massive no bueno, won't last 6 years. Endless list of problems. You'll soon have a coolant leak which will be a plastic routing pipe isntead of metal. And to replace it you have to lift the entire cab off the frame. It pisses me off cause I really wanted this truck, but after seeing how poorly everything was designed I stopped myself.
Will have to wait 6 years to know for sure I guess, but so far I like it. I haven't heard of a coolant leak being a common problem, but maybe I just missed it.
@nastysoda9212 LOL! What a nonsensical take... this very engine (V35A-FTS) HAS ALREADY BEEN OUT 6 YEARS (it has been used in the Lexus LS 500 since 2017...).
Your 37s is what’s cooking your transmission. The high temp transmission light doesn’t come on until it’s really hot you most likely have burnt fluid which reduces lubrication you should change out the fluid
I own a 22 tundra limited hybrid with 15k miles out on it now, and I honestly feel that the lag you are feeling is due to the engine ECU being programmed for a hybrid motor to be installed. I have heard about this lag alot with many non-hybrid owners, but owning the hybrid I can tell you that the "lag" you feel is removed by the hybrid motor on initial accelerating then the engine kicks on and it's such a smooth transition.
It's like they never account for that and just did a standard program for all engines hybrid or not.
Great video_ I recently bought a Limited 4WD TRD OR (NH)- and I really like it (Ive driven it 2 weeks now. The truck was built in August of 2022 and I have not had any lag issues. I had a 2007 Tundra SR5 so I also was impressed by all the cool gadgets the new truck has as you were. I bought It with 17 K miles so It was helpful to hear your year review. Nice looking truck.
You're from BC!!! Glad to see more Canadians doing off road adventures.
Do you think the 37’s are the reason for the transmission overheating?
Nice review covering some of the smaller things.
Hey thanks for doing a one year review. In the market for a new truck in the next couple of years. And the new Tundra is high on the list.
Great video. I have a 2022 SR5 off road. Already have over 100,000km on it. I agree with you on the box shaking. The front of my box, just behind the cab, has started to crack. I have seen this on another Gen 3 tundra as well.
Did you re-gear for the 37's? If not, that will likely resolve your transmission heat issue and improve the fuel economy.
I haven't yet, but it's definitely a factor in both!
Yes crawl control got me out of some deep snow and deep sand when 4 low with locker engaged could not. Gorgeous truck! BC looks amazing. That sucks about the bed I hope someone finds a solution someday
I definitely agree that the throttle lag in the regular driving mode is pretty bad. I switch to sport mode any time I will be on highways and it seems to clean it up a lot. Do you think the overheating issues have anything to do with being on 37's? I am running 33's and have a bit over 25k on my truck including several long road trips and the New Mexico Backcountry Discovery Route and I have never had that issue
37s are likely the biggest cause of it, but I ran 37s on my 2006 Tacoma and never overheated the trans. A regear would likely help
The issue is probably likely to happen when driving up steeper off road trails at lower speeds due to less airflow to cool things down.
It's the high-stall torque converter they use that causes excessive heat when it slips.
Best bet is to slap it in tow/haul mode or manual shift mode so it can hold lower gears longer. If off-roading, 4-Lo will cut down on a lot the overheating warnings as well.
curious.. what sort of mpg are you averaging with those 33s?
@@bendavidson8563 15-17 city, 20-22 highway depending on my driving. My average according to the trip computer decreased about 1-1.5 mpg.
Funny you mention the flat belly... Like a 2005 Nissan Xterra... I love how the front end looks with the cut and bumper. Sounds like Toyota has some major work to do with the tundra still.
Hi did you already drive your truck to mt. Cheam planning to go there with my 24 limited tundra.
I have the 23. Everything you said is spot on. Thanks.
There is a TSB Update for the throttle lag as well as the start up clunk noise you get every once in a while. They are the same TSB code. Your local dealer should know the code. It took care of both of these issues for me.
Also if you replace the silver tie down points in the bed of the truck with a higher quality set it should take care of the rattle. It is not actually the bed rattling. It worked for a few other RUclipsrs, I have yet to try it myself.
In my case it is the bed rattling against the frame, also confirmed by Toyota when I brought it in the first time.
Just curious, and the order of the mods may not have been right to find this out, did you have the transmission cooling issue with the 37s but before the bumper install? It does look like it blocks some of the airflow to the bottom of the radiator where those integrated ATF coolers typically live. If it was already borderline with the big tires, a little loss in airflow might be the final straw. Unrelated, my buddy just got back with some fuel cans and a trasharoo from your shop for me, stoked for the goodies so thank you!
It's a good point, and honestly one that I hadn't really thought too much about. That could definitely be a part of it! Maybe I'll try relocating the tranny cooler up higher and see if it makes a difference!
After your other shock shoot out where you liked icon out of the ones tested, would you still choose this suspension or the icon kit?
Being a Toyota, it’ll slowly but surely improve over time. Perfect time to buy would be refresh in 2026.
Something up with that overheating tranny. I’ve hauled/towed a lot with my 22 OR including towing 6000lb with a loaded bed in 45’c temps through the Cascades highway. If there was a time for an overheat that would be it.
We've been towing a TON with out 23 sequoia this past year and i've never seen a trans temp light before. Curious if you've got a sensor issue.
that little throttle lag you discuss around 6:45 is a throttle by wire problem... most cars have this issue
Does it use the top gears with 37’s on the highway? My 11 Tundra never used 6th gear with 35’s, totally needed to be re-geared
Love the Tundra.
I think toyota is still having issues perfecting modern transmissions. My 3rd gen taco was terrible in that trans. I traded for a manual. I now have a 5th gen rav4, and it does the same random lag you described on the tundra.
How's the manoeuvrability of the tundra like in tight space? I currently have a Tacoma I like the nimbleness the truck but other than that it is not strong enough to howl my boat in the woods and all my other task. I'm afraid of missing the size of the tacoma in the city and in tigh space but you coming from a tacoma how was you experience in these situation ?
Honestly it's about the same, but I had the DCLB tacoma with long travel and 37s, so realistically it was close to the same size, just the body was narrower. The back up camera makes parallel parking a lot easier than in my taco as well.
How do you guys like running the Mickey T tires? I’ve heard really mixed reviews
So far run them in dirt, pavement, sand, rain, snow, and some mud and they have been fantastic. Probably my favourite tire I've run so far. The only problem with them is they are super expensive.
@@OverlandOutfitters I didn't see this question about the tires until now. I asked it further up. Just disregard, thanks.
How much lift is on the front and rear with the Elka suspension?
Wouldn't hurt to inspect the transmission fluid and two or three drain and fill since it overheated.
cool, sooo when we getting a team trip video again!?!
I've done worse than what you described about the transmission over heating. I've not had that happen to me. I've pulled up and over the rocky mountains in Colorado and I offroad alot too.
The throttle lag I fully agree and I've taken it in and they say it's normal cause it's a teen speed transmission.
I think the 37s are likely the biggest contributing factor, and a regear would probably help. Though I ran 37s on my 2006 Tacoma for years without overheating issues
@@OverlandOutfittersoverheating could also be the bumper blocking the trans cooler airflow perhaps… getting 19-20 mpg on my 23 stock 1794 TRD off-road around town
@@pementerprises770633” tires ?
have you had issues with allignment?
There is no way your tranny should be over heating I have a 22 sr5 and tow a 16 ft trailer and have up to 11k lbs and never had a issue with over heating. Take that back to Toyota and demand they fix it along with the bed rattling. I hate rattling noise in new trucks. Tell ‘em to fix it! Overall I love my new tundra no issues so far! Oh and I get 14 miles per gallon while
Towing and 17 when combined without it.
Starting the Friday afternoon just right 🙌🏻 Tecate roja, wrenching and some fools ol’ overland outfitters. Cheers Braeden and gang 🤙🏻
Glad I watched this. Sticking to a F-350.
The auto braking and the gas mileage really get annoying to me. My 2016 Ram got almost 5mpg higher. That being said I do LOVE my Tundra. With a little work the thing is a beast for it’s size.
Was it crawl control that "saved" you, or the multi terrain select that adjusted ATRAC? I think ATRAC is tits, but crawl control itself I don't understand the need or desire.
Tundy life is pretty dope!
That would be annoying if my bed was vibrating but for the money you get what you pay for i bought a fx4 ecoboost in 2014 it has 120 thousand miles on it and i love it its a strong built truck and its before they whent to the aluminum so feel like i got a special one .2014 was the best year for the 150 3.5 ecobeast .
For the transmission lag, try getting the computer flashed at the dealer
I asked them but they said there's nothing they can do
What length is your bed?
Over heating a trans rated to tow 10k? Thats not good. Even with stock tires, a 6k trailer will be a problem in Arizona summer.
Never had an overheating issue stock, but with the upgrades, it has been frequent. @dwong506 brought up a good point about the bumper blocking some of the transmission cooler, which could lead to some more cooling issues as well. I may have to play around with that.
The front grille is ugly. The front end/hood is too long. The panel gaps are unacceptable. It’s not a V8. The back seat is smaller than the previous generation. Quality issues such as rubber window seals coming off. Subpar interior build quality. Other than that it’s great.
How’s the cabin noise with the 37”’s compared to the Tacoma?
My older Tacoma was super loud in the cab, so I don't know if it's a good comparison, but the tundra is very quiet, at least by my standards
Get it tuned to get rid of the throttle lag.
20l per 100 = 12 mpg
You're not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
Hah. My lifted tacoma on 33s, carrying 650# of extra weight gets 12.5-13.5L per 100 normal driving.
I was thinking about trading in our 2019 1794 for the same model for “improved” fuel mileage but I don’t think I will.
@@TheKeeganc man I would stick with the 5.7L. Proven drivetrain with lots of power. In real world driving these I4/V6 turbos don’t get good gas mileage.
@@TheKeegancare you going to have it on 37s like he does ?
Could maybe equate the high tranny temp to the large tires and stock gears
What was that soft top thing you had in the truck box??
It's basically a fabric canopy that can fold up and down super quick.
Softopper, they're great if it's what you need. It's a camper shell that either folds up or totally removes in under 1min. Super duper light as well.
Did you have to relocate your control box on the winch to make it fit?
not with this bumper/winch combo
Great review B! I have a gripe with the 3rd gen Tacoma bed rattle issue as well and I've seen folks who shim the bed contact with the frame.
SR5 has the detuned engine in Canada correct?
No just the SR
Had the bed of my 2019 Tacoma come loose, play in the bushings/composite. Dealership warrantied it after 3 seperate visits. That was at 40k, now 80k and I can feel play again. Please I would buy your solution!
Was definitely a common problem with the Taco's! Maybe it's something I should be working on??
@@OverlandOutfitters I think you should. You know Toyota guys like to buy all sorts of shit, needed or not, lol. Someone that fixes a real problem should be a great seller, until it gets copied!
The access cab is tight in the back seat? Wow, never would have guessed.
No one buys an access cab and expects anyone to ride in the back, dude.
Tiny leg or tiny “lag” at first I thought you were talking about the pedal
For the throttle lag get a pedal commander. It makes it feel like you truck gained 100 hp. The commander has many settings for sensitivity and just plugs into the fly by wire connector by the gas pedal. You will love it.
I had a pedal commander on my 18 and after 4 years if failed and caused all kinds of CPU errors/issues/emerg braking etc. Removed it and everything cleared up.
I was running a similar product, the pedalbox, because I thought it would help, but it didn't change the throttle lag at all, just made the pedal way too sensitive for my driving style. I ended up taking it out
@@OverlandOutfitters That is strange. I run a sprint booster ( same as pedal commander)and it is fully adjustable from stock up to extremely sensitive. I have a sprint booster on my zr2 and it made a world of difference otherwise a tune will help. Not sure what there is for the tundra but the colorados have trifecta tune and if fixes the god awful 8l45 transmission
@@punkin314 I concurred with this. It was great when it worked...after that all kind of issues but removing it helped restoring it back to normal.
@@punkin314 Look at the Banks Pedal Monster, unlike PC and others it gets power form odb2, not the pedal itself and if it does lose power it returns to stock.
Throttle LEG?
Do you still have your Tacoma?
Yep! Been slowly chipping away at it. LS3, Cage, Trailing arms, tube chassis back half, 39's, etc. Gunna be rad when it's done, just haven't had as much time as I'd like to work on it!
@@OverlandOutfitters Awesome glad to hear you still have it that thing bad ass
Good warning, NEVER buy a new generation vehicle from any manufacture.
I have my 🍿ready for the new Tacoma as well.
I have never been a fan of the new 22+ Tundras. I think they are the ugliest truck Toyota could ever put out. That being said, this is by far the best looking of the 22+ Tundras I have seen to date.
Back up Nannie’s? Hard NO. Also the mileage is quite poor for a truck you just know won’t last as long as the normally aspirated V8’s.
Never buy a new vehicle from any manufacturer it’s not worth the probability it may be a dud. Give this truck a few years for the engineers to improve it a bit. Despite Toyotas great rep I’d rather have a naturally aspirated engine.
Thats how everyone with shit fuel economy justifies it, "you dont buy a truck like this for fuel economy" ah bullshit i overland my truck, fuel economy is huge!
For sure it's important, which is why I'm disappointed with it, but it also wasn't the reason I bought it 🤷
@OverlandOutfitters maybe true, it's no worse than the v8
20L/100KM is like 11.8MPG which sounds pretty much like the 2nd gen: garbage.
The MPG is garbage, the GEN2 Tundra is rock solid.
Check out the transmission cooler I installed on my 23 tundra. Had the same overheating issue before the cooler.
ruclips.net/video/iCU3VDyVJNw/видео.html
Chrome mustache has to go.. otherwise nice build!
5:16 not at all surprised. 10 speeds are all trash.
They sound like lawn mowers 😂😂😂😂 no thank you.
Sounds like a NO to me...
I hate mine. What a piece of trash. Should have never sold my v8
that engine is a massive no bueno, won't last 6 years. Endless list of problems. You'll soon have a coolant leak which will be a plastic routing pipe isntead of metal. And to replace it you have to lift the entire cab off the frame. It pisses me off cause I really wanted this truck, but after seeing how poorly everything was designed I stopped myself.
Holy Shit!
Will have to wait 6 years to know for sure I guess, but so far I like it. I haven't heard of a coolant leak being a common problem, but maybe I just missed it.
@nastysoda9212 LOL! What a nonsensical take... this very engine (V35A-FTS) HAS ALREADY BEEN OUT 6 YEARS (it has been used in the Lexus LS 500 since 2017...).
i turned off the parking beep and brakes 1st day i got mine.
Turbo lag
There's actually very little turbo lag with this truck, they spool up almost immediately. It's for sure something with the programming
All Toyotas have a leg 🦵
Anyways 😉
thanks for the non objective review