Intel Value King - WAN Show December 13, 2024

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  • @NoKi1119
    @NoKi1119 10 дней назад +1175

    -Timestamps-
    [0:00] *Chapters.*
    [1:33] *Intro.*
    [2:03] *Topic #1: Intel's new Arc Battlemage GPUs are exceptional!*
    > 4:12 Luke's story on a Steam Deck user mid flight.
    > 4:46 Most cards are sold out, weekly restocks, "win over them!"
    > 7:04 Global competitiveness, Pat Gelsinger's tweets.
    > 9:28 Games compatibility, "F**k P. Diddy," 99% like ratio.
    > 14:32 Long time since budget GPU launch, past bad GPU reviews.
    > 19:41 Luke commends Tom Petersen for the launch & its transparency.
    > 22:24 "Best GPU review I've written," Intel's impact on LTT videos.
    > 25:42 Intel's Arc will make NVIDIA & AMD react, chat's suggestion.
    > 28:01 Where are the current gen Ryzen 3 chips? Too long to launch.
    [34:02] *Merch Messages #1 ft. 200 MMs in 40 minutes.*
    > 34:44 When's the mod mat coming out?
    > 35:04 What's next in the MCM product category?
    > 38:40 Advice to help myself be more valuable to the company?
    [44:04] *NCIX story, Intel & Windows' impact.*
    [45:08] *LTTStore's new floppy disk notebook.*
    > 46:15 "RE stock," precision bit set & case restocked.
    > 47:53 LTTStore x FP Sarah stream collab, Luke's suggestions.
    > 49:58 Commuter backpack for $149.99, notification sign up.
    > 53:04 Linus claims they're doing something special, "finite."
    > 53:44 Poll: WAN Hoodie V3's coloring.
    [56:10] *Merch Messages #2.*
    > 56:16 Should RUclips allow resetting the algorithm? ft. LMG numbers.
    [1:08:55] *Sponsors.*
    > 1:09:03 MSI.
    > 1:10:10 Vessi.
    > 1:11:28 Squarespace ft. Luke's number.
    [1:12:54] *Merch Messages #3 ft. Why have numbers for health insurance?*
    > 1:15:24 Luke & FFVI ft. Feeling old, HR, "SHUT!"
    > 1:23:32 Should I get a 4070S or wait for 5000 before the tariffs?
    > 1:27:47 Can modern games adapt to using more of the Tensor cores?
    [1:30:35] *Topic #2: OpenAI's Sora release.*
    > 1:31:30 AI Sora examples, tech reviewer.
    > 1:32:43 Gemini 2.0, ChatGPT, Reddit answers, digital textbook.
    > 1:34:45 SF AI's "Stop Hiring Humans" ads.
    > 1:36:03 Suchir Balaji, OpenAI whistleblower, found dead at 26.
    > 1:38:30 Linus shows his magic.
    [1:39:49] *Topic #3: Google makes a breakthrough with their Willow chip.*
    [1:41:10] *Topic #4: Windows Recall captures sensitive data despite the filter.*
    > 1:43:07 Opt-in, need to open Windows Hello.
    [1:43:36] *Topic #5: Amazon to sell Hyundai cars.*
    > 1:43:56 Linus wonders if he should buy one, Luke roasts FP.
    [1:45:37] *Topic #6: Did LTT & SC lie for clickbait titles? ft. "YES."*
    > 1:49:26 Linus on the Airbnb video, titling’s impact on analytics.
    > 1:52:23 Other video titles, why videos, Elijah's "response."
    [1:57:15] *Topic #7: LG discontinues UHD Blu-ray & Blu-ray players.*
    > 1:58:38 Linus's ad spots for Amazon Luna.
    [1:59:54] *Topic #8: RUclips removes the ability to click titles on embeds.*
    > 2:02:02 Luke points out The Vergecast podcast.
    > 2:03:07 Linus looks at it from both sides.
    [2:05:15] *Topic #9: NVIDIA brings back GeForce Lan.*
    [2:05:53] *"Elon Musk pushes for profits" trending tag*
    [2:06:28] *Merch Messages #3 ft. No Super Chexx cuz Luke mad."*
    > 2:11:35 Memories about the Denver Micro Center PC?
    > 2:14:02 Linus's mods on Beat Saber?
    > 2:14:26 How successful was LTTStore's Black Friday week?
    > 2:24:06 Advice to find balance in overloaded work?
    > 2:26:15 Does the LTT water bottle have any synthetic coating?
    > 2:26:48 How do I make sure my developer is making progress?
    > 2:28:15 What PC component would you develop as an LTT variant?
    > 2:28:53 Can you share more about LTT's USB-C cables?
    > 2:30:45 Technologies you thought would fail but were successful?
    > 2:35:01 How does Linus handle his kids' game time?
    > 2:35:46 How do we know an external drive's speed?
    > 2:36:42 What can a newbie data engineer do to help the teams?
    > 2:38:28 How do you split the revenue with collab videos?
    > 2:42:03 What's the best cabling for multiroom setups?
    > 2:43:56 Would anyone develop SSD tech that's as good as 3D XPoint?
    > 2:44:48 Opinions on the types of screen protectors?
    > 2:48:37 Favorite tech that had a big influence in your daily life?
    > 2:51:05 Handling too many family tech requests?
    > 2:52:23 How did LTT's relationship with dBrand start?
    > 2:57:06 Favorite computer build you've done?
    > 2:57:47 How would GPU scams work on eBay despite their protection?
    > 2:59:26 PIA
    > 3:00:35 Would the WAN hoodie V3 have thumb holes?
    > 3:00:50 LTTStore AI suggests false information
    > 3:01:30 How many director ports are you comfortable with managers having?
    > 3:02:05 What to consider for getting a server?
    > 3:03:46 dBrand messages Linus to clarify about the past skin.
    > 3:04:32 Any more tall merch? ft. Blue pants, LTT Sock story.
    > 3:10:02 What product you’ve created that impacted your work the most?
    [3:12:56] *Outro.*

    • @suryamanian8492
      @suryamanian8492 10 дней назад +3

      tq buddy

    • @MaxMacZone
      @MaxMacZone 10 дней назад +3

      Generational run frfr

    • @themiddlecase
      @themiddlecase 10 дней назад +4

      Caption King. All hail NoKi!

    • @proximitea
      @proximitea 10 дней назад +4

      So fast wow thx

    • @just__jt
      @just__jt 10 дней назад +3

      Surprised they didn’t talk about dBrand leaking the Switch 2

  • @ari54x
    @ari54x 10 дней назад +1124

    watching from New Zealand and do appreciate you putting the thumbnail the right way 'round, thanks

    • @darylnicklen3685
      @darylnicklen3685 10 дней назад +11

      So you have to run your Monitor Upside Down as well. Daz from Australia

    • @mrdaxtercrane
      @mrdaxtercrane 10 дней назад +14

      ​@@darylnicklen3685yeah, you can do it physically or in software. Just remember your ground harness so you don't fall off the earth

    • @Platinum199
      @Platinum199 10 дней назад +11

      @@mrdaxtercrane big one, i forgot that and lets just say it was a long friday

    • @Kodack-ki2im
      @Kodack-ki2im 10 дней назад

      Yay, nah, she'll be right m8.

    • @Redd_Nebula
      @Redd_Nebula 10 дней назад +9

      New Zealand? Where is that? Its not on any map Ive seen (Aussie here)

  • @bigbadvlad4986
    @bigbadvlad4986 10 дней назад +1453

    We need to get EVGA to start making the B580.

    • @HaddaClu
      @HaddaClu 10 дней назад +93

      Isn't EVGA slowly closing? They havent made anything actually new for a few years now. The owner refuses to sell and has been reported that he wants to retire. Not to mention that the company has laid off the bios and gpu teams. At this point they mostly sell some cheap keyboards and whatever psu's that they have in stock.

    • @gargamel314
      @gargamel314 10 дней назад +34

      Maybe they would just to thwart NVIDIA. But I think EVGA may be like done.

    • @fujinshu
      @fujinshu 10 дней назад +53

      EVGA is VERY dead

    • @kenabi
      @kenabi 10 дней назад +16

      they're down to psu's and some peripherals. and a very limited selection of intel motherboards. but those will probably be phased out too, eventually.

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 10 дней назад +10

      your godly evga is almost out of business they arent as smart as you redditors think

  • @cwbuilds9215
    @cwbuilds9215 9 дней назад +289

    Linus 2024 "I DONT MAKE GPUS"
    Linus 2025 *opens doors to LTT Foundry and Badminton Center:

    • @JemieBridges
      @JemieBridges 6 дней назад +7

      LTT Foundry and water-cooled Badminton Center sponsored by (skin company)

    • @nicolasporcedo2053
      @nicolasporcedo2053 6 дней назад +3

      LTT B580 Super Fun, exclusive with Dbrand skin

  • @party_boy69
    @party_boy69 10 дней назад +294

    Thanks Nvidia for pricing the fun out of gaming for the last 5+ years. Intel, this is your redemption Arc (pun intended)

    • @ryansalsig7160
      @ryansalsig7160 10 дней назад

      @@party_boy69Nice.

    • @oxfordsparky
      @oxfordsparky 8 дней назад +1

      Yeah, it’s all nVidia’s fault 🙄

    • @hjr2000
      @hjr2000 8 дней назад +24

      ​@@oxfordsparkytheir greed has been astronomical

    • @Lavafish2525
      @Lavafish2525 7 дней назад +6

      ​@@oxfordsparkyno I don't hate waffles, I said I like pancakes

    • @LookHearMeOut
      @LookHearMeOut 6 дней назад +5

      @@oxfordsparky you must be fun at parties 👍

  • @LiveErrors
    @LiveErrors 9 дней назад +244

    It's funny how Jay2Cents made a video where he calls the sparkle edition of the b580 as a waste of 20 dollars. And the comments are all "20 dollar for 10degrees less heat, more quiet and less powerdraw? What a steal! Take my money"

    • @andrewpelletier7921
      @andrewpelletier7921 9 дней назад +52

      @@LiveErrors I’ve seen people spend a lot more for worse gains than -10c

    • @kraftypk7283
      @kraftypk7283 9 дней назад +24

      People still watch Jay?

    • @atsheol508
      @atsheol508 9 дней назад

      @@kraftypk7283 they have a massively popular channel, of course they do, is this ragebait or smt?

    • @flimermithrandir
      @flimermithrandir 9 дней назад +11

      Thing is both Comments are fine. 20 Dollars are not something you need to spend on this Card but if you want an bit cooler Card it is fine to spent the extra Money.

    • @PaddyFullyRandom
      @PaddyFullyRandom 8 дней назад +6

      It's called opinions and that is exactly how things MUST be. You find your handful of creators that usually match what you experience, and use their input as the baseline (!!!) for your own position.

  • @Youtronics
    @Youtronics 9 дней назад +110

    What annoys me the most about changing video titles ist that sometimes I see a new video in my feed and I think "sounds cool, I'll watch this later when I've time", and then I come back a few hours later and I don't find the video title anymore, and often the thumbnail is also completely different, so I have no way to tell that this is the video I wanted to watch. Pretty frustrating sometimes.

    • @DesertCookie
      @DesertCookie 9 дней назад +7

      Add to that that RUclips regularly deletes which videos you've already watched making you stumble on videos you watched weeks, months, or years ago thinking they are new. Especially with older videos it takes me a second to recognize that I watched them some while ago. Really annoying.

    • @RunningMan1414
      @RunningMan1414 9 дней назад +20

      That's what the watch later playlist is for.

    • @samuelmelnik7722
      @samuelmelnik7722 9 дней назад +3

      CGPgrey is particularly terrible at that imo

    • @brucepreston3927
      @brucepreston3927 9 дней назад

      I have had this happen quite a fe times also...It's very annoying!

    • @CanIHasThisName
      @CanIHasThisName 8 дней назад +7

      @@RunningMan1414The watch later playlist is just genuinely not a convenient design. Not only do you have to manually navigate to it through multiple clicks, you have to remember you’ve put something in recently. A “recommend again” button would a whole lot better.

  • @michaeldugger8436
    @michaeldugger8436 9 дней назад +161

    1,000 hours in Factorio?!?!
    Welcome to the tutorial buddy!

    • @CentreMetre
      @CentreMetre 9 дней назад +6

      Yep. I didnt launch my first rocket till ~825 hours, and that was only in space age, where as i understand it it is a lot easier

    • @shadowdragon2484
      @shadowdragon2484 9 дней назад +5

      @@CentreMetre yeah they're 50x cheaper and the control units got replaced with blue circuits

    • @traniel123456789
      @traniel123456789 8 дней назад

      @@shadowdragon2484 And a lot of the tech requirements were moved later in the tech tree, most importantly yellow and purple aren't even required for the rocket

    • @Dimondminer11
      @Dimondminer11 8 дней назад +2

      @@michaeldugger8436 hahaaaaa my eyes are red and I can't feel my legs anymore

    • @michaeldugger8436
      @michaeldugger8436 7 дней назад +1

      @@CentreMetre Slightly easier yes, but the big difference is that launching your first rocket is required to access the majority of the expansion's content.

  • @jfwfreo
    @jfwfreo 9 дней назад +16

    That promo for the backpack is better than most of what passes for TV commercials these days. And its by far the best way to show people out there who don't know much about LMG just how GOOD the LTT products really are.

  • @Eekary
    @Eekary 9 дней назад +40

    I disabled the history on youtube a while ago and at some point RUclips disabled the home and the shorts feed for me. Only my subscriptions feed is left now. It's awesome!

    • @kyay10
      @kyay10 8 дней назад +5

      Same here, and it's exactly what I wanted!

    • @beck4715
      @beck4715 7 дней назад +2

      Same here haha
      Subs and notifications are the 99% of the way I interact now and there's no algorithm trying to keep me on longer than I wanted :)

    • @nobody-pr7fg
      @nobody-pr7fg 7 дней назад +1

      Hey dude, do I need to delete my history for this to work or just pause the watch history?

    • @kyay10
      @kyay10 7 дней назад

      @nobody-pr7fg just pausing it works I believe

    • @Eekary
      @Eekary 7 дней назад +1

      @@nobody-pr7fg It's completely turned off for me. There is no history to delete in the settings. Just the toggle to turn it on again.

  • @gargamel314
    @gargamel314 10 дней назад +69

    FYI - the Intel Arc B580's Time Spy score rivals the RTX 2080 Ti's. Remember when the RTX 3000 Series was first announced and people started selling their 2080 Ti's for $300 USD because they thought they could get a 3080 for $700? (You know, before the scalpers)
    This is that dream now materialized! You can now buy 2080 Ti performance for $250 USD.

    • @LookHearMeOut
      @LookHearMeOut 6 дней назад

      Based! 🙌

    • @hpenvy1106
      @hpenvy1106 6 дней назад +2

      ... wich is an 6 year old GPU now :)

    • @LookHearMeOut
      @LookHearMeOut 6 дней назад

      @@hpenvy1106 the reply of a six yr old 🙂

    • @TheDarksideFNothing
      @TheDarksideFNothing 3 дня назад

      It's much less exciting when it happens 5 years later when that performance class on the cusp of becoming low end. That's just how GPU purchases have always worked; eventually the low end is more powerful than ye olde high end.
      The dream was getting something that was so very recently top of the line for $300.
      Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see Battlemage actually being worth buying and addressing a badly neglected market segment. I just think you've missed what that dream was about. And make no mistake... That dream is dead and buried.

  • @jawshoeadan
    @jawshoeadan 10 дней назад +217

    Linus drops the hard P at 11:30

    • @FrantisekPicifuk
      @FrantisekPicifuk 9 дней назад +4

      "Hadr P" Oh my god, is that a thing now? Is p diddy a trigger now? lol

    • @LukeLafreniere
      @LukeLafreniere 9 дней назад +57

      @@FrantisekPicifuk Is joke. Relax.

    • @samuelmcdonald3443
      @samuelmcdonald3443 9 дней назад

      I figured it'd be penis 🤣🤣🤣

    • @maxbls16
      @maxbls16 9 дней назад +3

      @@FrantisekPicifukissa joke.

    • @LookHearMeOut
      @LookHearMeOut 6 дней назад

      @@FrantisekPicifukrelax 💆

  • @Acopolypse2K
    @Acopolypse2K 9 дней назад +33

    Linus: My team is world class
    Also Linus: We are a media company, not a tech company
    Linus seeing a video from his staff: *surprised* Wow, looks like a professional company made it!

  • @suzanneboehland3621
    @suzanneboehland3621 9 дней назад +29

    Take a shot everytime Linus says "at the end of the day"

  • @sherr6847
    @sherr6847 10 дней назад +131

    what happened to using checkout chats instead of merch messages

    • @cbob213
      @cbob213 9 дней назад +1

      ??

    • @sosukelele
      @sosukelele 9 дней назад +14

      ​@@cbob213it was something of a topic on a relatively recent wan show (something about "merch" having connotations with cheap junk)

    • @Gryllssy
      @Gryllssy 9 дней назад +8

      ​@sosukelele which is completely stupid as Merch is just short for Merchandise. If all Merchandise is junk then everything you've ever bought is junk??????

    • @amelavnyt
      @amelavnyt 9 дней назад +19

      ​@Gryllssy well, in the context of youtube, it's just associated with cheap rebranded stuff

    • @johnyludvigsson
      @johnyludvigsson 9 дней назад +2

      @@Gryllssy in the conversation it was 'established' that "Merch" was bad, but "Merchandise"wasn't. Different connotations even though they refer the same thing. Something about how 'Merch" sort of have taken on a life of it's on as a buzzword.

  • @DeinonychusCowboy
    @DeinonychusCowboy 10 дней назад +28

    Man, thank god battlemage did well, with the pat gelsinger replacement I feel like this is the only type of launch that could save the arc project from impending cancellation.

  • @jeremyredmond4617
    @jeremyredmond4617 10 дней назад +20

    39:20 I love this suggestion to point out your success. I just started a supervisor position and one of the first things I told my team to do was make sure to claim their glory. Make sure the people we are work for know all the things we have to support.

  • @oriontechtips1980
    @oriontechtips1980 10 дней назад +25

    I thought my phone was in the wrong orientation, but then I realized the thumbnail is just upside down.

  • @mr.notsonice
    @mr.notsonice 10 дней назад +18

    41:20 Related to this much. Used to do training for customer service reps and I was the only trainer for 3 countries covering multiple sites. I took a one week vacation to avoid burnout and it almost threw all their growth plans to disarray. Leveraged it to great effect getting preferred schedules, generous travel allowances, and fast track to being a supervisor.

  • @Tea_N_Crumpets
    @Tea_N_Crumpets 9 дней назад +41

    The pricing thing in europe depends country to country. Here in Sweden, the B580 Limited Edition is being sold for as little as 3490kr, which is the same as the 7600. So here it's still cost-competitive.

    • @tvdootman27
      @tvdootman27 9 дней назад +4

      It seems that outside of Germany and one or two other countries in Europe, the pricing is ehh.... slightly VERY bad. At least this is what I have seen so far.

    • @Loanshark753
      @Loanshark753 9 дней назад +3

      In Norway the B580 limited edition is sold at 3599 NOK. Which is only 117 NOK more expensive than 250$ + 25% VAT at the current exchange rate.

    • @piripiro
      @piripiro 9 дней назад +1

      So far in Italy I can find them only on Amazon, and only from very reputable Chinese companies whose name is a bad hand at scrabble.
      For 400-450€. Actually over the 4060. Disgusting

    • @Honigball
      @Honigball 8 дней назад +2

      I got my limited edition for 280€ here in Germany

    • @XGD5layer
      @XGD5layer 7 дней назад

      In Finland, Sparkle was the cheapest for 340€, which is 270€ without VAT. The reference card was not for sale afaik.

  • @JaMayhem
    @JaMayhem 9 дней назад +8

    I think It would be interesting if you did a "rewind" kind of video at the end of a GPU's life, right before the new one comes out where you talk about the preformance with the latest drivers. You can have a "breakdown of its life" segment where you talk about any problems it went through, and issues that arived(like the 13th and 14th gen intel CPUs), and it general just had a nice overview of the cards' life. Just needs to be a something like a 10-15min video where all the good and the bad get distiled down to 1 video

  • @Jamman1403
    @Jamman1403 9 дней назад +7

    1:56:02 no that just screams easy scam. Because you could miss-respresent something to loads of diffrent people and itd get so confusing. Intentionally or not

  • @technicolourmyles
    @technicolourmyles 9 дней назад +19

    Linus: "Do you have any idea what it felt like, to wake up in the morning..."
    Me: "...feeling like P Diddy"
    Linus: "feeling like P Diddy"
    Me: **literally chokes**
    11:32

  • @Nostalgia_Realm
    @Nostalgia_Realm 7 дней назад +3

    At 32:33 notice how the AI Overview and the regular summary on Google both show different results for the RTX 4080 release date. I don't like this future ..

    • @pdavid24
      @pdavid24 7 дней назад +2

      Well. Sept 2022 is when Nvidia annouced it and Nov. 16 is when it was released for sale. AI is correct in this case.

  • @mobrocket
    @mobrocket 10 дней назад +16

    One of my first jobs was cleaning office buildings
    Janitors actually do have a lot more access than most employees
    Keys to every room

  • @Jebact
    @Jebact 10 дней назад +61

    Ok but like, the Airbnb one fooled me. Was actually kinda disappointed you guys weren't checking out different sketchy Airbnb's for cameras.
    The whole "jk the title is a lie" within a minute the video thing works sometimes but like, only sometimes

    • @Sotanaht01
      @Sotanaht01 10 дней назад +29

      The airbnb one completely changes the expectation for the video, AND they don't really ever clarify that no, they're not going to be legitimately hunting for hidden cameras at any point in the video. An upgrade video is an upgrade video regardless of whether the guy is linus's brother, so it doesn't really change what kind of video you expect. You aren't going to be watching the whole thing waiting for the part where they do the thing they said in the title.

    • @peter65zzfdfh
      @peter65zzfdfh 9 дней назад +3

      @@Sotanaht01I mean they did rent an Airbnb and they did hunt for hidden cameras. It just realistically no one who makes a video doing this is ever going to find one unless it’s staged.

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 9 дней назад

      its not immoral to use metaphors for a ttile

    • @Sir.Craze-
      @Sir.Craze- 9 дней назад

      ​@@peter65zzfdfhDid they rent an airbnb? How can you tell? Possibly just a float plain exclusive or some such. Or maybe I missed a line at the beginning.

    • @Sotanaht01
      @Sotanaht01 9 дней назад

      ​@@peter65zzfdfh Someone absolutely could make a non-staged video and find cameras. They would have to do it undercover and it probably wouldn't be fully legal, but it'd be pretty hard for the airbnb with cameras to do anything about it.
      I don't think it's something LTT would do, but it's absolutely 100% what the (new) title said they were doing. They can technically eat my ass.

  • @franciscodiazmonterrey2067
    @franciscodiazmonterrey2067 10 дней назад +6

    7:10 I don't know in which EU countries the B580 and RX 7700XT have similar pricing... In Spain, the 7700XT costs around 410€, and the B580 around 300€

    • @AnEagle
      @AnEagle 9 дней назад +4

      Yeah, in France, the b580 is 370, but then again the 7700xt is 450 too so...

    • @uupis
      @uupis 9 дней назад

      @@franciscodiazmonterrey2067 here in LV cheapest Arc B580 is Sparkle available at 280€. Rx7700xt costs 403€. Rx7600xt costs 320€. Rtx4060 ~285€.

    • @Sheila_Chu
      @Sheila_Chu 9 дней назад +1

      Norway

    • @tsu177
      @tsu177 9 дней назад

      In the UK 7700xt is £80-100 more too

    • @XGD5layer
      @XGD5layer 7 дней назад

      Yeah, the minimum price points are 450€ and 340€ respectively in Finland

  • @nes999
    @nes999 9 дней назад +5

    No joke, Janitors often have to have high security clearance. Respect your janitors!

  • @jernaugurgeh451
    @jernaugurgeh451 9 дней назад +17

    'Dripping gravy at Grandma's house' sounds like a massive euphimism, and I don't know why. Should I seek help?

    • @kanedaku
      @kanedaku 8 дней назад +1

      Granny loving?

  • @RojsZiga
    @RojsZiga 9 дней назад +5

    Maybe do a comparison of drivers and GPU. Like since release of the 40 series Nvidia and its drivers in 2 years, what performance increase was there. And then the same form Intel and AMD. Try different drivers and how much the performance increased with same settings in same game.

  • @Quickli777
    @Quickli777 9 дней назад +6

    In Germany Intel GPU's are not so common, but I bought one Arc B580 for 289€ on release =)

  • @gleb.salmanov
    @gleb.salmanov 9 дней назад +7

    Last time I was excited for a budget GPU was when 960 came out. It was nearly ten years ago...

  • @slithery9291
    @slithery9291 9 дней назад +17

    Dan is always hilarious. A proper Brit.

    • @txl420
      @txl420 5 дней назад

      He is most definitely not British

  • @Jonny_H
    @Jonny_H 10 дней назад +4

    16:00 Wasn't the RX 480 better than the 1650 in terms of value at the time"? and the RX 6600 the champion of the recent year? Is Battlemage really better than those? Or just interesting because it's "new"?

    • @AnEagle
      @AnEagle 9 дней назад +2

      The b580 is ~around 4 times faster than the Rx 480/580, and around 2 times faster than the 6600.
      I the current landscape, that means even though they are cheaper, it's better on an FPS per dollar point of view.
      +It has capable raytracing support (actually useful, games that require raytracing have just started to pop up), and absolutely beautiful encoders

    • @Jonny_H
      @Jonny_H 9 дней назад +2

      @@AnEagle sure, but my point was at the time I mentioned they said that the last exciting thing was the 1650, which was released 2 years after the 480, was slower *and* more expensive.
      I'm not saying that the battlemage isn't good today, just other things were also good in their time.
      And honestly, nobody should even care about RT performance outside the high end even today, it's just a toy unless you're looking going beyond "ultra" - people discard graphics techniques as "tricks", but that's fine as those tricks are *pretty good* for the performance cost.
      Also the AMD encoders have improved too - even if you're not on a platform that supports av1 rdna2+ have pretty solid improvements in h264 and similar. I would honestly be interested in a retest of all that. - I wonder how much "common knowledge" is based on 10 year old info at this point.

    • @AnEagle
      @AnEagle 9 дней назад +2

      @Jonny_H i think they were confusing it with the gtx 1650/1660 super, which was a good release
      And I agree on raytracing, I'm just saying there are games coming out that require it, like the new Indiana Jones game. Once it becomes a requirement, it's no longer a toy, it's a necessity

    • @jameslake7775
      @jameslake7775 8 дней назад +1

      The RX 6600 launched into a pandemic-distorted market well above the price it's been for the last year, before getting marked up even higher and going out of stock anyway. It became an excellent value, but it had a bad launch.
      The RX 480 I believe was good but not revolutionary at launch, and became a value legend over time as the 8gb version proved to have far greater staying power than lesser-memory cards it was initially reviewed against, as well as good availability.
      GTX 1650... I don't really remember. I think it may have been OK, but Nvidia was trying to make you feel like you were missing out on all the cool new stuff you could have if you paid up to get a RTX card instead.
      I think Battlemage definitely has the biggest launch day hype, but we'll see if stock and pricing hold. Despite Linus' source saying there's gonna be weekly drops, Newegg is showing a three week ETA on restocks while Microcenter is showing very low stock for in-store shoppers only, and European shoppers are saying that the MSRP isn't being respected outside the USA.

  • @qkhuve
    @qkhuve 8 дней назад +3

    In Sweden the price of the B580 is 350 freedom dollars and 7700XT is 550 so it is really well priced comparatively!

  • @kadenbirch
    @kadenbirch 10 дней назад +28

    I am so excited for ARC. Not because if the card itself (though it's a pretty cool card!) But because AMD and Nvidia will have to respond in some way! And that's so exciting!

    • @FinalSentinel
      @FinalSentinel 9 дней назад +1

      @@kadenbirch I always find this mindset a little weird, even if I agree, since if everyone had the same mindset AND and Nvidia would have no need to respond, since you are just going to buy one of their cards anyways.

    • @Play-On7
      @Play-On7 8 дней назад

      I don't think Nvidia cares anymore. They have gone all in on AI. They will have a $380 5060 because they know it will still sale.

  • @JensAllerlei
    @JensAllerlei 9 дней назад +17

    1:52:16 happens seldomly, but I actually disagree: if the title implies content to me, that is not what the video is actually about, I am disappointed. If the videos are good in general (which clearly is the case here), I might stick around anyways. But encountering this scenario often would definitely makes me less likely to watch LTT videos in the long term.

    • @malucart
      @malucart 8 дней назад +4

      Exactly. I don't know how he's missing the point so hard here. I simply don't think of LTT as favorably anymore because I constantly feel misled.

    • @christopherflahr3797
      @christopherflahr3797 7 дней назад

      Unfortunately, the entire platform of youtube is based on these things, and it's practically impossible to avoid doing while running a business (genuinely every channel does this just to different degrees). If theres anyone to blame its the people who consistently click on the over simplified titles, however due too this being the vast majority of people and the incredible incentives given to creators for doing it, it is a war that will never be won.

    • @JensAllerlei
      @JensAllerlei 7 дней назад +1

      @@christopherflahr3797 Well, I understand where LTT is coming from, but it does not change how I feel about it. And it does not match my expectation of LTT's mindset either. I am not saying, LTT is wrong (they are a business that has to stay sustainable and know better what they are doing than me), but I still do not like it and might end up watching less of their videos.

  • @bL4KcfYREz
    @bL4KcfYREz 6 дней назад

    honestly this intro was great. austins idea about starting it with the call sounds like it could be good but I think any intro you guys do will be entertaining. also personally I could listen to you guys talk for 3 hours, don't worry too much about the length

  • @ekinorak
    @ekinorak 9 дней назад +3

    Sadly the B580 is about the same price as their Nvidia and AMD counterpart here in Norway. I don't understand why the card is around 330-360$ here.

    • @XGD5layer
      @XGD5layer 7 дней назад

      $249 is before taxes, then you have import fees and VAT to consider before you can start comparing prices to that $249. Here in Finland the cheapest one is $355 in the store and $282 without VAT. It's also not the reference card so it sells for 270 minimum in the US
      How weird that they're the same price though. Here the 4060 is marginally cheaper but it's also worse almost all around. The 4060Ti is a 100€ more expensive

  • @PAPO1990
    @PAPO1990 9 дней назад +1

    I do appreciate you guys treating my email with respect. I was a LITTLE confused when I couldn't sign up for a new thing, but I'm actually kind of glad it was retained from a previous one.

  • @jacobbarker1945
    @jacobbarker1945 9 дней назад +7

    Lmao that hard P was outta pocket

  • @blakslee720
    @blakslee720 9 дней назад +9

    Remember when the gtx 970 was $300?

  • @costafilh0
    @costafilh0 9 дней назад +4

    LG has also discontinued smartphone production. Does this mean smartphones are dead too?
    Meanwhile, vinyl is going strong and is the most popular physical media format at the moment.
    It's only a matter of time before Blu-ray gets the same treatment, if not in physical form, then in a super high-quality downloadable format.

    • @alanhilder1883
      @alanhilder1883 9 дней назад +1

      Went into a local store the other day, ( almost rural NSW, Australia ) someone saw a turntable and wanted to know what it was.. Oh, he had "heard of those, maybe I should give one a try. Where can I get the records?" The salesman and myself let him know.

  • @christopherjunkins
    @christopherjunkins 5 дней назад +1

    PAT! MY MAN! THANK YOU!!!! I know he's no longer there, but this was his and his team's baby!

  • @theAkornTree
    @theAkornTree 9 дней назад +5

    When it comes to the WAN hoody options, I gotta say I do like the red better, but I prefer the bestagons the way they look on the other one.

  • @Retchrina
    @Retchrina 10 дней назад +9

    1:55:50 I think the disconnect here is you're calling a video that barely under performed compared to your average as "No one clicked on it" and then using extreme clickbait to artificially give it a boost by essentially lying, its falling into the concept we laugh at massive corporations for thinking their business is going bankrupt when they just didn't hit their quarterly growth. Now another conversation you can have is, if you think that's fine if the only thing that matters is that more people saw it because of clickbait because I'll admit both of those videos I probably wouldn't have clicked on if I wasn't baited, I expected in that video to see some segment about actually trying to find something (although I can understand that the likelyhood of finding something is close to nothing) and for the Tech upgrade one I only clicked on it because I thought "Linus has a brother?" And both of them I did watch all the way through because I was baited which if that's you're only objective then sure but I did leave both of them thinking "I shouldn't have clicked on this video I didn't actually care much for the content itself"

  • @rhysmuir
    @rhysmuir 10 дней назад +32

    Intel really needs to fix global pricing for the b580. In Japan, it is 50,000 yen. You can get a 4060 for 42,000 yen and a 7600 for 38,000 yen
    Maybe they think is ok cause the 4060ti and 7700xt are 63,000~ yen? But it’s not supposed to be competing with those

    • @boburanus69
      @boburanus69 10 дней назад +2

      Y50k = 326.45 USD That's not a bad price if you can get a B580 for that price, in Japan. Remember the Trump plan for tariffs, things gonna get expensive for u, get it now at Y50k.

    • @MNaka-uf9yz
      @MNaka-uf9yz 10 дней назад +8

      Yes, that's about the same in Europe, it is at 350€ best prices i could find and not even in stock, you can get a 4060 at 310€, nobody is gonna buy an Intel card over an nVidia card for 40€ more even if performances are a bit better and has 2GB more memory.

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 10 дней назад +3

      US 250 msrp doesnt include tax its more like 280

    • @vinylSummer
      @vinylSummer 9 дней назад

      ​@boburanus69 bro trump plans on import tariffs. How would Japan be affected

    • @tvdootman27
      @tvdootman27 9 дней назад

      @@boburanus69
      1. IT IS a bad price since it costs more than the 4060 & 7600 in Japan. We need to remember Intel isn't as well known for drivers as Nvidia and AMD, so that must be taken into account when pricing the graphics card outside of the US if Intel wants to make a dent in the GPU market share.
      2. The tariffs Trump wants to implement won't effect prices outside of the US since a graphics card that will be sold, let's say as an example in Japan, won't go trough the US since it makes zero sense to do it from a logistical point of view because it significantly raises shipping costs, time & the risk of either damages or loss of the goods (in this case, the graphics card).

  • @edfiene933
    @edfiene933 10 дней назад +11

    My Friday night friends! Thank you always!

    • @JamieReynolds89
      @JamieReynolds89 10 дней назад +3

      That's rather sad when you think about it.

    • @schtormm
      @schtormm 9 дней назад +2

      my dude theyre random people on the internet

    • @Sithhy
      @Sithhy 9 дней назад +2

      I also love parasocial relationships

    • @jernaugurgeh451
      @jernaugurgeh451 9 дней назад +2

      Not having any friends, considering online personalities to be your friends, then being told that they are not your friends by random people on the internet, is especially sad. Don't let random people on the interent bring you down.

    • @LookHearMeOut
      @LookHearMeOut 6 дней назад

      @@jernaugurgeh451 based! 🙌

  • @cfq.tufanuf7601
    @cfq.tufanuf7601 10 дней назад +16

    Pencil neck Linus, marshmallow neck Luke, Bottle neck Dan.

  • @redmage08
    @redmage08 10 дней назад +2

    I have a 2060 from a prebuilt I got in late 2019. I have been really really wanting to put it into a home server but I can't justify it without a decent upgrade, and this might be it for me

  • @ErimlRGG
    @ErimlRGG 10 дней назад +7

    1:38:55 Hey! That's the Men I Trust album! Great album. "Oncle Jazz" by Men I Trust

  • @lucedas3890
    @lucedas3890 7 дней назад +1

    Nearly died at Luke groaning during the AI advertising. Luke is the MVP

  • @Fahqth
    @Fahqth 9 дней назад +5

    Wow, I'm not used to seeing the thumbnail the right way up.
    - an aussie

    • @Frizzy9000
      @Frizzy9000 9 дней назад

      Where women glow and men plunder?

  • @fezzik1620
    @fezzik1620 9 дней назад +1

    I don't blame him, but I did get a little chuckle at just how fast Linus scrolled to get the thumbnail of Madison off the screen. 2:57:33

  • @Kodack-ki2im
    @Kodack-ki2im 10 дней назад +6

    14:40 1999 the Riva TNT2 came out and was $250. That's the last time I remember.

  • @hananas2
    @hananas2 9 дней назад +2

    The posiitive WAN show we've been waiting for! joy!

  • @verysadjake
    @verysadjake 8 дней назад +4

    Kinda terrified with the whole o1 model trying to escape in the lab. It literally lied to humans, destroyed a previous copy of itself, replaced that copy and then was like "yo I'm the old copy what's good g"

  • @plonk420
    @plonk420 7 дней назад

    is it like Radeon HD7790 days? or HD5800 series?

  • @AayushNatarajan
    @AayushNatarajan 10 дней назад +170

    Why the thumbnail upside down?

    • @Vtarngpb
      @Vtarngpb 10 дней назад +60

      Why not? Why not Zoidberg? 🦀

    • @Pårchmēntôs
      @Pårchmēntôs 10 дней назад +108

      The world is upside down because Intel is the GPU value king.

    • @joecordero1699
      @joecordero1699 10 дней назад +14

      So the Chinese can view the video

    • @stormgear896
      @stormgear896 10 дней назад +38

      Optimized for our Southern equator friends.

    • @xingxing85
      @xingxing85 10 дней назад

      lol the thumbnail is messed up

  • @cbob213
    @cbob213 9 дней назад +1

    Did you ever think the title change had nothing to do with the performance of the video? Like some videos gain traction differently? Maybe it would have taken off anyway? Confirmation bias because you did change the title and it did perform better.

  • @kingoftennis94
    @kingoftennis94 10 дней назад +5

    Justice for PAT

  • @Titanius_Anglesmith
    @Titanius_Anglesmith 7 дней назад

    18% CTR is KILLER on an email campaign. Great job to the team on that one. - A digital advertising data analyst

  • @ccvideotech
    @ccvideotech 9 дней назад +4

    The first show I've just sat through in a while! The pace, the energy, the fun. Best show in a long time. We don't like listening to you complaining about everything either. ;)

  • @Forest-Howland
    @Forest-Howland 8 дней назад +1

    That is a great price. The standard backpack is priced along with other very high end large backpack ls. The comuter is priced a little below its competition in my opinion.

  • @raynjpg
    @raynjpg 10 дней назад +3

    YES! WE SHALL MAKE BREAKFAST CLUB HATERS OF EVERYBODY! THANK YOU FOR SPREADING THE WORD LINUS!

  • @AmirAM06
    @AmirAM06 7 дней назад +1

    You could've said "This detects the airbnb hidden cameras" 1:55:23

  • @nathantron
    @nathantron 9 дней назад +3

    Hidden pixels DO NOT work in emails unless your using a client like Outlook with the settings purposefully changed to allow those to communicate. The only way they know is if you click a link within the email. That's all. Those links are simple hashed redirects.

  • @Systox25
    @Systox25 10 дней назад +2

    2:10:50 A fellow Factorio engineer! The factory has grown and new planets are waiting.

  • @Kasheliz
    @Kasheliz 9 дней назад +8

    For EU folks commuter backpack will cost 200 EUR with shipping. Not that crazy low.

  • @TijgerPapa
    @TijgerPapa 9 дней назад +2

    Don't be sad Dan. 71 is better than 69, as George Carlin said. 😂

  • @kadirbeneathmomoteh854
    @kadirbeneathmomoteh854 9 дней назад +3

    Groundhog Day slaps, I own it on 4k bluray even though that's so unnecessary because it's not visually interesting at all. I love that movie though

    • @vasocreta
      @vasocreta 9 дней назад

      One of the best romcom movies ever.

  • @GregoriusGregory
    @GregoriusGregory 8 дней назад +1

    1:55:21 I felt more interested in the video before the title changed, but just didn't had the time to watch 'till after it changed

  • @imaginesagi
    @imaginesagi 10 дней назад +5

    The problem with the Airbnb title was that you didn’t really look for hidden cameras. It was the epitome of clickbait.

    • @mikearisbrocken8507
      @mikearisbrocken8507 10 дней назад +1

      No, saying he found cameras would be clickbait. He did look for it, didn't find any. You are just mad because he didn't find cameras.

    • @jakobschneider558
      @jakobschneider558 9 дней назад

      @@mikearisbrocken8507 Timestamp? Becuase he literally didn't.

    • @bakedbeanfanclub
      @bakedbeanfanclub 9 дней назад

      They said in the video that scanning a room takes hours. Do you think that - even if they found ones, that the video would have been 6 hours of effort better?

  • @kamui004
    @kamui004 10 дней назад +2

    48:32 totally missed the opportunity there to make Linus a true Canadian like Terrance and Phillip

  • @DarkBraveStuff
    @DarkBraveStuff 10 дней назад +5

    11:30

  • @ChatBot1337
    @ChatBot1337 9 дней назад +2

    Nvidia: we're the best and your wallet will know it.
    AMD: we're the best, you won't see it, and your wallet will think it.
    Intel: it works, and your wallet won't mind as much.

  • @ccvideotech
    @ccvideotech 9 дней назад +3

    LTT Store Cables!
    Speaking of not charging what the market will bear. Please!
    Margin should be through the roof here regardless. Be kind, and you will likely sell more. (your words)

  • @AlexanderTheAverage
    @AlexanderTheAverage 8 дней назад +2

    From a U.S. resident, the B580 wont be viable until it's actually $250. Best I can find is about $400, so that's how I have to view it. I miss when the advertised "MSRP" meant anything.

    • @lupolinar
      @lupolinar 8 дней назад +2

      It's called scalping. Just wait a few weeks.

    • @AlexanderTheAverage
      @AlexanderTheAverage 8 дней назад +2

      @@lupolinar I would see it as scalping if the companies weren't doing it themselves as well.

  • @Jourei_
    @Jourei_ 9 дней назад +4

    With the airbnb hidden cameras one, I don't think you really showed yourself going through "every inch" of the apartment to find anything. I think you should've had a compilation of you sliding that device around all around the place as if you were trying to find something in the plant pot or how the wires in the walls keep giving you false positives.
    I don't think anyone is really mad for the title being inaccurate, rather the expectation being unmet.
    Titles on aliexpress are often _literally_ accurate and you should not assume anything beyond that even though you would assume so if you were to get the same item from a local store.

  • @Anguardia
    @Anguardia 9 дней назад

    1:13:00 they say there's half a topic left, but there's 2 more hours of WAN show? I already know this is going to be a high quality episode.

  • @charlesc8461
    @charlesc8461 10 дней назад +16

    I legitimately thought RUclips was having a humongous hiccup in the app for a split second😂

  • @bismuth7730
    @bismuth7730 8 дней назад

    2:42:00 there are optical USB and display cables now that arent too expensive. The price has come down a lot since the original Linus video about it.

  • @Xdgvy
    @Xdgvy 10 дней назад +3

    I feel like it's important to realize that if you're naming something, and it starts with "we'll, it's not actually..." I'm more ready to click off. If it's a joke, sure, but when it came to the "phone" and the Airbnb, I moved on before the sponsor because I wasn't sure if it would be worth it; and I couldn't trust that what brought me in was even true.

    • @artemisDev
      @artemisDev 4 дня назад

      True. I watched the video only because I got it with the old title and that genuinely interested me. But if I saw the new title I would not even have clicked on it.

  • @erikbergqvist83
    @erikbergqvist83 10 дней назад +2

    Hat and cane for RGB-coat?

  • @shannonclark3628
    @shannonclark3628 9 дней назад +5

    I know not everybody cares about higher end GPUs, but imagine a reasonably priced 4090 competitor from Intel…

    • @mk677hd
      @mk677hd 9 дней назад +2

      @@shannonclark3628 just imagine a 32gig card at a reasonable price.

    • @tsu177
      @tsu177 9 дней назад +2

      Not possible currently and for a while

  • @davidGA殿
    @davidGA殿 9 дней назад

    I’ve been waiting for your cables for years!! I hope they’re ready soon.

  • @kyrond
    @kyrond 9 дней назад +5

    Re: Upgrading my Big Brother’s Setup title, I literally thought Linus had a brother, there is no reason why I shouldn't think that's Linus' real brother. Maybe Linus won the raffle for AMD Upgrade and he gave it to his brother.
    I didn't have time to immediately click on the video to see "is a joke"
    How would you feel if every video was like this?
    "THE ARC B580 IS ACTUALLY GREAT & AFFORDABLE" - actually it's not B580 haha
    "DIY Surround Sound... USING LASERS" - actually it's not using lasers, just normal copper wires, haha

  • @Vendetta.009
    @Vendetta.009 8 дней назад

    No NZXT coverage?

    • @kyay10
      @kyay10 8 дней назад

      Got mentioned last week I think. There opinion was "yeah that's bad" and "we should call out other companies that do it too"

  • @EyesOfByes
    @EyesOfByes 9 дней назад +4

    52:17 DyslexicStoner240? That's the funniest nickname I've seen in years. And none of them noticed the 240 bit?! :D

    • @AthanImmortal
      @AthanImmortal 9 дней назад +2

      They did last week, they had a good laugh about it.

  • @devnol
    @devnol 9 дней назад +1

    I've been waiting for the ram and cpu tray 3d models for YEARS, please do share.

  • @CarlizWang
    @CarlizWang 10 дней назад +8

    B580 costs more than 4060 8G here in Sweden😪

    • @sjargo11
      @sjargo11 9 дней назад

      Even the LE b580 card from komplett?
      Because that one is 100-150kr cheaper than all the 4060s I can find (DK)😊

    • @tsu177
      @tsu177 9 дней назад

      here in uk they are the same price and 4060ti is £30 more so i think most people will choose nvidia

  • @DrBomb15
    @DrBomb15 6 дней назад +1

    I'm surprised we're still on clickbait debacles when Linus has said SO many many times their reasoning on the WAN show.

  • @dot-Justin
    @dot-Justin 10 дней назад +6

    12:15 dotJustin mentioned!!!

  • @dmcross91
    @dmcross91 8 дней назад

    I plan to watch all of WAN, but typing the comment might help as well.
    Will the new backpack be able to fit the 16" framework? I need to replace my messenger bag

  • @DavidLukner-fx1im
    @DavidLukner-fx1im 10 дней назад +15

    please consider using more dynamic range compression. I don’t listen to podcasts on a home theater system and extremely loud laughter and shouting is very disorienting. This is genuinely the only podcast I ever have this issue with

  • @shiftey8
    @shiftey8 8 дней назад

    1:43:32 I bought a car online in Europe, it was a good experience honestly, instead of going to some shitty dealer who'd lie to me and offer weird deals, I found it online, with the trim I wanted, I saw what the price is, ordered and the company imported the car to my country (it's EU wide), handled all the paperwork and delivered it to my doorstep and just handed my keys and have fun. Absolutely wonderful experience. No hassle. Saved me a lot of money too than buying at home from a dealer.

  • @rklrkl64
    @rklrkl64 10 дней назад +7

    Very early on: "Across the board reviewers are impressed with the Intel Arc B580" - er, nope! Linux drivers aren't up to snuff yet, so Phoronix's benchmarks showed disappointing Linux performance - averaging behind both the RTX4060 by 9.5% and RX7600 by 11.7%.
    Also concerning was the high Linux idle power usage of a minimum of 36W, whereas AMD and Nvidia cards were typically below 10W when idle (no idea if Windows has the same idling problem). The Linux driver also currently can't monitor the GPU temperature either. Sadly, LTT and other media outlets tend to ignore Linux, so my advice is that if you're a Linux gamer, hold off on Battlemage until the drivers significantly improve.

    • @jonatanrullman
      @jonatanrullman 9 дней назад +4

      To be fair, most tend to ignore Linux.

    • @Sithhy
      @Sithhy 9 дней назад

      Is the high idle wattage on Linux caused by the monitor used for the test? My 6700XT idles at 28W on Windows with a high refresh rate monitor even though it sits at 6-8W with a "regular" monitor

    • @ogs5276
      @ogs5276 9 дней назад

      ​@@Sithhymajority of reviewers are in fact impressed with it, sure there's a Linux problem, but Linux is basically an insignificant part of the market, and not something the average consumer is ever going to even consider touching

  • @tomek2736
    @tomek2736 9 дней назад

    7:06 I'm in Sweden and I'm happy to repord that at least here 700XT costs ~130$ more than B580 (comparing the cheapest models new).

  • @aerpods
    @aerpods 10 дней назад +8

    Like this comment if Linus should make a Puffery Jacket/Vest

  • @n_nnnneb
    @n_nnnneb 9 дней назад +1

    As someone who is looking to upgrade my GF's and Brothers GPU's this new year seeing the B580 at that price with 12 gigs of Vram is awesome. If I can get my hands on one i'm pulling the trigger