Malbs use to have an issue with saving - he sucked at it, always had to have one last peek and try to frag. When I pointed that out on Prospects, he actually responded and thanked me for it. The kid is a humble beast.
I was praying Kassad would throw out the "are you insane?" reaction when Thorin made the point about Kassad being a top coach. Woulda been way too funny
I remember seeing an hltv thread a few months back saying kassad kicked cypher from bleed because cypher wanted to watch demos and kassad didn't :D really sums up the fan logic
Honestly to me they trying turn Niko into 2021 stockholm Niko where he had to carry by himself, he has monesy now ofc but because of nexa he now has to do way more work and he may be Niko but that’s just overkill
I think Taz is not to blame, using a f1 angle, if the rookie gets offered to drive for Ferrari, he will take it, its the fault of G2 that hired him, im sure he is trying his best. G2 strike me as a vibe team, no other reason to keep Hooxi other than the atmosphere he brings.
the simple argument against the MAJ3R point is that the team looked like a mess when he wasn't there. they tried to have XANTARES, woxic, and even imoRR IGL and it just didn't work in the slightest. MAJ3R might not be to the level of karrigan or gla1ve or whatever, but he's the best Turkish IGL around, and it's not particularly close. (and yeah XANTARES is carrying EF, but shoutouts to Calyx for taking the bitch roles and still being able to show off his mechanics, his 1v4 against FaZe on Overpass in the RMR was something else)
After the 2021 Stockholm final NiKo said, "There will be more chances,'" regarding winning a major. Since then he's progressively been on a downtrend in form and both Karrigan and AleksiB have won their own majors. It's been 3 years, he's not prime NiKo anymore. If he really wasn't corrosive to his teams then how do you justify the last 3 years?
Well, for Antwerp, they got unlucky in Legends and had to face NAVI and Heroic. Overtime losses to both in a BO1. Came down to a BO3 against a comfortable Furia that basically went to regulation every map. After that was a HooXi masterclass.
@zettour. Valid point for Antwerp, but they still lost to Furia with ArT in a Bo3. I don't buy the HooXi hate at all because G2 only gave AleksiB like 6 or 7 months before kicking him out, and they kept JackZ instead of Amanek. You know the players had to have weighed in on this. Same deal with Karrigan in old faze. Either A) NiKo chose to get HooXi over the current major champion and before that he chose to keep JackZ (who suckZ). Or B) NiKo was completely passive and did not say a word about any roster changes that have been done on any of his teams. A player of his caliber cannot be ignored. Either way, he's a fool for talking or for not speaking up, and his individual form has degraded. I just don't agree with him being top 10 and I hate how there's always a scapegoat for why he doesnt have a major. He's not cursed, he's blessed with talent.
@@chef-b3337 Eh, it was really close and this was sort of honeymoon Furia after they dropped VINI and just had a Top 4 run at EPL by destroying their group consisting of FaZe, ENCE with Spinx, Vitality, and Outsiders with YEKINDAR. Furia didn't truly become frauds till after Rio. Keeping JACKZ was on huNter actually not NiKo. He obviously should've spoke up, but also he didn't actually make the decision. Same with -AleksiB which was XTQZZZ being a moron and trying to sabotage G2. Like AleksiB said though, NiKo just didn't speak up. Probably due to how the community flamed him for -karrigan despite it being essentially a teamwide decision. Maybe it's because I don't blame him for 2021-2024 even a tenth as much as I blame him for 2017. NiKo and karrigan straight up failed that FaZe lineup. You couldn't find an excuse for that whereas you can find extenuating circumstances from Stockholm onward.
malbs will only end up with higher rating then liquid members because their already eliminated and liquid will make playoffs and play more games and potentially harder teams. M80 played nothing but betboom and a struggling g2 and sharks. Not to say he wasnt on fire. But i doubt him being picked up by liquid will happen.
but VP did win a major, are you on smack? Outsiders, Rio? Electronic even said in his most recent interview that him trying igl was a mistake. So you're definitely smoking something.
i laughed out loud during the "Niko is still a top-20 player" point, you're right Maui this shouldn't be a hot take, and it's not. Niko's stats in last month or last 3 months still show that he is a top-3, top-4 riffler on LAN against top 10 teams, so you know.. that's like more than enough to be a top-20 player
Maui 😂😂 acting like fanatic and saw are great teams, anythinghe says no one takes serious becausehe has no idea wtf hes talking about. I'll say it again VP have always been overrated, they are a team that holds the line for tier 1 entry line. They will Never win anything worth it with this style
WIth all respect to Kassad and the show bleed is putting. I reserve to make any comment about whether bleed is good or not or Kassad is the best coach or not until they make it to Tier 1 LAN. Anything will do, From Blast to ESL. But here is what I do believe in, If any org wants to make their Tier 2 or Tier 3 org into Tier 1.5 Org. I would recommend Kassad as He will bring them from Online Environment to Studio LAN at the very least. I rememeber iNtation was valid till Kassad was there and then immediately fell off when he left.
Turkish super team = best players from turkey = Still worse than any top 30 player in Europe (except for Xantares) . Thorin "EF is a super team" Also Thorin "3 players below 1.0 rating" (which is a wrong stat by the way go check it out) Maj3r is a good IGL , he has an average support player in Calyx and two inconsistent awper and entry in Woxic and Wicadia , Xantares is just good and not great bcuz he drops off massively in playoffs which is where it matters the most . He made it to a Major playoffs this year with this team and that's a Huge achievement since the 7 other teams all have better players . So EF plays better as a team than the sum of its individual players' abilities , and that's exactly why the analysts at the desk gave him *deserved* credit . He is not a world class IGL bcuz he never won anything .
@@MusicJunkie37 malbs has been cooking and performing great. Nertz played ok recently and he's expensive I'd go malbs and you can tailor him to your playstyle easier bc he's younger
Cold take, obvious route for non-delusional G2 stans. Though, I feel like HooXi assistant coach and paired with an actual analyst might be better. He can be vibes man and be happy.
kassad is right they will cut jame and they will get booma4. as a new igl/awp and fame will be cut for ax1le and fl1t for perfecto. maybe they even get hobb1t norbert after the overpass mega nerf.
Malbs use to have an issue with saving - he sucked at it, always had to have one last peek and try to frag. When I pointed that out on Prospects, he actually responded and thanked me for it. The kid is a humble beast.
my humble kingt made malbs
@@cd2194 Haha, I wish
best show in CS is back
I wish there was a show like this for all my competitive interests. But they need to be entertaining/deeply knowledgeable/ and unhinged lol
5:23 I love Thorin going from "Host and nodding accordingly" to "You are out of your fucking mind" in a split second
I was praying Kassad would throw out the "are you insane?" reaction when Thorin made the point about Kassad being a top coach. Woulda been way too funny
I remember seeing an hltv thread a few months back saying kassad kicked cypher from bleed because cypher wanted to watch demos and kassad didn't :D really sums up the fan logic
forgot to put in the podcast playlist...
why is this not in the podcast playlist? now i can't find it in YTM...
Perfectly timed for my lunch break
30:50 his name is actually Martin .. 🤣😂🤣
I think Kassad's Jame take was the first time I saw Thorin legitimately shocked
Honestly to me they trying turn Niko into 2021 stockholm Niko where he had to carry by himself, he has monesy now ofc but because of nexa he now has to do way more work and he may be Niko but that’s just overkill
I think Taz is not to blame, using a f1 angle, if the rookie gets offered to drive for Ferrari, he will take it, its the fault of G2 that hired him, im sure he is trying his best.
G2 strike me as a vibe team, no other reason to keep Hooxi other than the atmosphere he brings.
I just hope VP start playing Nuke cause now they have one of the best yard lurkers in the business in Electronic.
Looking forward to the next episode of
G2 take - point made!
Maui cannot get over the Taz Timeout
m b v poster on maui's door 😲♥
signed by the band
malbs take is based
the simple argument against the MAJ3R point is that the team looked like a mess when he wasn't there. they tried to have XANTARES, woxic, and even imoRR IGL and it just didn't work in the slightest.
MAJ3R might not be to the level of karrigan or gla1ve or whatever, but he's the best Turkish IGL around, and it's not particularly close.
(and yeah XANTARES is carrying EF, but shoutouts to Calyx for taking the bitch roles and still being able to show off his mechanics, his 1v4 against FaZe on Overpass in the RMR was something else)
the kassad hot take 😂 the smile on his face. great show guys.
Kassad just throwing some wild takes for the hell of it
they have played a single group stage as this 5.
the taz point was almost a copy paste of the last episode maui also brought up taz lmao, great episode
How about Kassad will be fired if Bleed don't attend anything better than B-tier events soon?
Are you even watching his team?
Let’s remind you to watch the first 10 seconds of the show: ITS HOTTAKES
Bro it's a tier 2 team and they're clearing all the other tier 2 teams they meet. What more do you want from him?
After the 2021 Stockholm final NiKo said, "There will be more chances,'" regarding winning a major. Since then he's progressively been on a downtrend in form and both Karrigan and AleksiB have won their own majors. It's been 3 years, he's not prime NiKo anymore. If he really wasn't corrosive to his teams then how do you justify the last 3 years?
Well, for Antwerp, they got unlucky in Legends and had to face NAVI and Heroic. Overtime losses to both in a BO1. Came down to a BO3 against a comfortable Furia that basically went to regulation every map.
After that was a HooXi masterclass.
@zettour. Valid point for Antwerp, but they still lost to Furia with ArT in a Bo3. I don't buy the HooXi hate at all because G2 only gave AleksiB like 6 or 7 months before kicking him out, and they kept JackZ instead of Amanek. You know the players had to have weighed in on this. Same deal with Karrigan in old faze. Either A) NiKo chose to get HooXi over the current major champion and before that he chose to keep JackZ (who suckZ). Or B) NiKo was completely passive and did not say a word about any roster changes that have been done on any of his teams. A player of his caliber cannot be ignored. Either way, he's a fool for talking or for not speaking up, and his individual form has degraded. I just don't agree with him being top 10 and I hate how there's always a scapegoat for why he doesnt have a major. He's not cursed, he's blessed with talent.
@@chef-b3337 Eh, it was really close and this was sort of honeymoon Furia after they dropped VINI and just had a Top 4 run at EPL by destroying their group consisting of FaZe, ENCE with Spinx, Vitality, and Outsiders with YEKINDAR. Furia didn't truly become frauds till after Rio.
Keeping JACKZ was on huNter actually not NiKo. He obviously should've spoke up, but also he didn't actually make the decision. Same with -AleksiB which was XTQZZZ being a moron and trying to sabotage G2. Like AleksiB said though, NiKo just didn't speak up. Probably due to how the community flamed him for -karrigan despite it being essentially a teamwide decision.
Maybe it's because I don't blame him for 2021-2024 even a tenth as much as I blame him for 2017. NiKo and karrigan straight up failed that FaZe lineup. You couldn't find an excuse for that whereas you can find extenuating circumstances from Stockholm onward.
@@zettour. "you can find extenuating circumstances from Stockholm onward" We shall call it Stockholm Syndrome.
What I have been waiting for. This will be fire
malbs will only end up with higher rating then liquid members because their already eliminated and liquid will make playoffs and play more games and potentially harder teams. M80 played nothing but betboom and a struggling g2 and sharks. Not to say he wasnt on fire. But i doubt him being picked up by liquid will happen.
nexa and huNter out for blameF and Buzz
KASSAD is the best coach in cs rn, name a team thats blossomed like Bleed i cant wait to see them in better events!
VP will win next major
24:00 Who's the moron saying NiKo isn't top 20 ?
Even If G2 doesn't win any events this year NiKo will be top 20 .
monesy never won hooxi a tournament
-TaZ +sAw
Kassad.. you are insane 😅 but it's a real hot take 😬🤙
I'm 36 orange man, you're glazing! 😅😂 What an episode 😂 Clap
Lets goooooo
pre banger
ookk first point is good :D
9:20 Thorin, they already built a statue in Jame's honor in Rio after his major win.
Even in thorins conception of a modern console, he picked GameCube lmfao
I mean he followed on by mentioning anyone who is born in 2001 so he’s dead right🤣game cube was my console and I’m born in 2001
@@Selendeki best of btn where Sam had to dub over N64 with ''Nintendo Switch''
to be fair, he is 87 years old
but VP did win a major, are you on smack? Outsiders, Rio? Electronic even said in his most recent interview that him trying igl was a mistake. So you're definitely smoking something.
38:18 Thorin thinking GameCube is a modern gaming console hahah
i laughed out loud during the "Niko is still a top-20 player" point, you're right Maui this shouldn't be a hot take, and it's not. Niko's stats in last month or last 3 months still show that he is a top-3, top-4 riffler on LAN against top 10 teams, so you know.. that's like more than enough to be a top-20 player
Prolly recorded before last day of EPL
Yea I think he just wanted to use the platform to shit on all the people who have been hate training Niko recently.
I love how every show they bring up g2 it’s hilarious
We all know maui is a bleed fan. He tried so hard to be rational, but on twitch he loses his mind.
Jame is VP. Rooting for you bro. Jame won a major with outsiders. VP should be extremely loyal to him. But still needs to win now and I think he will
Thorin: stats dont matter use your eyes. Continues to base his entire maj3r take on stats
I am not even through the first point and I am laughing my ass of. hahaha
Maui 😂😂 acting like fanatic and saw are great teams, anythinghe says no one takes serious becausehe has no idea wtf hes talking about. I'll say it again VP have always been overrated, they are a team that holds the line for tier 1 entry line. They will Never win anything worth it with this style
The idea of a twistzz, naf, malbs, reck, and Cadian Team Liquid sounds like it would be FIRE.
Who at G2 came with the brilliant idea to replace JKS with Nexa? Everything went downhill after that.
Someone please buy kassad a microphone
Still the best show on RUclips
WIth all respect to Kassad and the show bleed is putting.
I reserve to make any comment about whether bleed is good or not or Kassad is the best coach or not until they make it to Tier 1 LAN. Anything will do, From Blast to ESL.
But here is what I do believe in, If any org wants to make their Tier 2 or Tier 3 org into Tier 1.5 Org. I would recommend Kassad as He will bring them from Online Environment to Studio LAN at the very least. I rememeber iNtation was valid till Kassad was there and then immediately fell off when he left.
Turkish super team = best players from turkey = Still worse than any top 30 player in Europe (except for Xantares) .
Thorin "EF is a super team"
Also Thorin "3 players below 1.0 rating" (which is a wrong stat by the way go check it out)
Maj3r is a good IGL , he has an average support player in Calyx and two inconsistent awper and entry in Woxic and Wicadia , Xantares is just good and not great bcuz he drops off massively in playoffs which is where it matters the most .
He made it to a Major playoffs this year with this team and that's a Huge achievement since the 7 other teams all have better players . So EF plays better as a team than the sum of its individual players' abilities , and that's exactly why the analysts at the desk gave him *deserved* credit .
He is not a world class IGL bcuz he never won anything .
niko is mentally weak, and until he starts maturing and stops tilting he'll slowly drop out of top 20.
G2 + s1mple -nexa
Its not Zywoo, he's said that he has nothing against the player. Its the idiot fans he hates
Imo instead of malbd I'd rather Nertz
Yeah nertz is more proven but no doubt he has a higher buy-out
@@MusicJunkie37 malbs has been cooking and performing great. Nertz played ok recently and he's expensive I'd go malbs and you can tailor him to your playstyle easier bc he's younger
I spit out my drink at the stavn back to the future joke 30:39
kassad cooked too much
Gamecube :D
Banger
Kassads take is wild :D
Hot take:
Hooxi to analyst instead of Swani who left.
Hunter as IGL
Bring back JKS
.........
Cold take, obvious route for non-delusional G2 stans.
Though, I feel like HooXi assistant coach and paired with an actual analyst might be better. He can be vibes man and be happy.
Heavygod instead of jks
Hot take: m0nesy will never be top 1 on HLTV, in his entire career
(donk sweep)
kassad is right they will cut jame and they will get booma4. as a new igl/awp and fame will be cut for ax1le and fl1t for perfecto. maybe they even get hobb1t norbert after the overpass mega nerf.
Yeah and cloud 9 should pick up Jame, fl1t, fame, and Norbert 😅
Zywoo living rent free in Thorin's head. He might not have any cultural impact, but even the e-sports historian, is obsessed with him. Good job Zywoo.
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