Excellent presentation. I really like that your not trying to come across as a bench rest shooter, or PRS or even a hunter, just a bloke laying on his guts hitting stuff he can barely see for no reason other than his own enjoyment, your gear selection and setups reflect that. You actually made a really good point and have actually helped me make a decision about my next scope purchase. Thanks guys
Hi Mark, UK shooter here. Your knowledge is phenomenal and I value your opinions. Based off your videos I’ll be investing in a NF scope to mount on the 6.5creedmoor. Keep up the awesome work. Hands down the most informative and non biased RUclips shooting platform.
MarkandSam AfterWork anytime guys. Have you ever considered running shooting breaks to Australia? Us British shooters can only dream of shooting beyond 1200yards.
Well, not our property and very happy that we get to use for us, but not suited to more than that, so not something we could do where we are, but who knows in the future, Cheers and all the best.
I love the Nightforce 12-42x56. Windage and elevation repeat and return, spot on every single time. Aim point never changes with magnification or parallax adjustments. 23 years and still hasn’t shaken it’s guts loose. It’s out lived 3 barrels. I have no idea what the new ones are like.
Thank you Mark great video , I have been experimenting with the Athlon range of scopes for F class up to 900 yards for a couple of matches and have found the Argos 8-34x56 an extremely reliable unit the glass is very clear for the price around $1100 perfect tracking and the settings are repeatable every time , I will be giving try in competition year it will be interesting to see how it performs
Great videos. As a relatively newbie to HV shooting here in the UK, I am learning a lot from you both so please keep them coming. I wish we had the distances you are shooting at, but the most I have found here is 1200yards/1100metres. Thanks again.
Very well said, sir. Excellent video!You nailed it on the head with the general trend towards more and more mag and that atmospheric conditions become the limit. Most of the elite military sniper systems that are setting world records well over 2,500yds are using something in the 5-25x range. If more mag was of any benefit you can bet they’d have more. Let us also not forget that GySgt. Hathcock used an 8x Unertl to set a record 2,500yd KIA back in ‘67. 40x can be helpful if you want to measure your groups on paper at 100yds but that’s about the only range and application where such mag makes sense. My, (ahem), “long range” rifle is a .223 Rem 700 with a 1:9”. Factory 75gr match loads can only take me about 800-1000yd max (the farthest I can shoot in the wooded part of New England I’m in) so anything more than my Leupold 3-9x wouldn't benefit me. Most of my rifles are used for hunting so I try to make sure I have a low end mag no higher than 4x, preferably 2x or 3x for the low end with a high end between 9x to 12x so I can shoot long-ish ranges when I am able to. Many hunters “over scope” and put a 6-20x on a deer rifle but such a scope is useless for shots less than 100 yards. But this is all an entirely different rifle/scope application: not ELR. It sounds like you’ve researched extensively and made very informed optics choices. And I would certainly hope any reputable company would give you a little support kick-back for the high praise and extensive press you’ve given them. Doesn’t taint your credibility on the matter at all with me and it also shows Nightforce’s dedication and loyalty. Thanks for the talk. Cheers.
Mark I want to thank you for putting quality honest info out for people. If I'd have discovered your channel sooner id have saved a fortune. I have 5 sightron siii's 6-24-50. Moa 2 sfp, and absolutely love them, for 680$ on some websites it's a steal. Sightron installed zero stops for me on all of them for 150$ each. I have 1 atacr and love it. Keep the good info coming. Cheers! As a thank you for honest reviews and shared knowledge I contributed to your channel.
I love my NF scope! Mine was made in Australia. Started reading about them in Precision Shooting magazine. One of my shooting mentors is Keith Highfield of Sydney. He’s in the Australian Benchrest Hall of fame. I have been to Australia and fell in love with your country. I’m from Montana and we are into long range shooting here though most of us frown on shooting game at extreme range. I really enjoy your videos.
I am using the 15-60x50 Vortex on my Remington 300WM with the Teludyne custom barrel. I have taken it out to 1500 yards. I didn't get into ELR shoot'n until I saw your videos. Keep the videos coming I learn something new with every video I watch.
+1 for wanting a digital display showing where you're dialed too. That would be awesome. Killer idea Mark. I'm going to try and push my Remington 700 in .308 to 1500 yards this weekend. Your guy's videos are super inspiring and full of great information, keep up the great work! Greetings from Northern California.
I have never shot with the nf attacker but I have looked through a buddies and adjusted around on it. Well that scope has ruined me for buying anything else😁. I fell in love with NF after that. The Attacker is a masterpiece of what a scope should be. Flawless turrets, nice glass , and it's durable. That buddy of mine put that on his custom 50bmg and it is rock solid and would suit any magnum rifle. And I agree, less magnification is more. I think that getting that wider fov is essential to reading how the flight path is behaving. And I know that I am commenting on an older upload. I couldn't resist 😂. Great video!
i have a £419 hawke 6-24x50 30 sf.. good enough for me since its only on a 11.4ftlb hw97k air rifle.. ive seen you use it on a .22lr and you didnt crap on it to much so am happy 😆
I can see a similar system to mirrorless cameras. They are now good enough for photography so I'm sure it would be enough for shooting. The optic and screen can then be separate and not have to be inline.
Mark you might look at the Revic PMR 428 Smart Rifle Scope. It doesn't have as much elevation as you were mentioning but it has some of the others such as a HUD. An interesting read about future possibilities in optics at any rate.
Thanks Man, yes have seen this scope and looks very nice, more a hunting/long range rather than ELR and not sure about some of the features and as said would really like the settings displayed, but it stills looks like a great bit of gear, Cheers
Really nice to get your opinion on scope choices mark. If my racecar sells i was going to look at purchasing a nxs 5x22 nightforce. That sightron you were talking about could be another option after listening to this cheers.
Living in Alabama my ELR is basically 500 yds it’s hard with mountainous terrain and tree heavy terrain to find many places where 500 yds is even possible.....what are your scope preferences for up to 500 yds.....brand wise and reticle wise
What part of Bama are you in? I am in the Muscle Shoals area and can easily find 1000 to 1500 yards. Find some farmers, help them out when you can and good shooting spots open up in the spring and fall.
For 600 yards or less, any quality 2-7 or 3-9 will get you there. 4-12 is probably the most I’d want. Unless you’re trying to print a ragged hole at 400, higher mag won’t help any. Like Mark said, you have far too many good options. Probably can’t get a bad one.
Hey, I'm hunting and I will be more often in the alps (austria) where long range shots are needed. For that reason, could you do a video about triggercontrol and flinching? Would be great to see how you deal with it and how you train. Greetings from germany
Thanks man, I will have to put some thought into that for a video, main fix is trigger time and use a calibre the you are comfortable with, (bigger is not better when it comes to a flinch), Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork thanks for answering. I guess that would be a great video, since you work very detailed on everything. Hunting large game on distance requires a fast and powerful projectile to make sure everything you hit is dead before it can hear the shot. Thats my main approach when it comes to shooting animals. I'm shooting 300win mag, .257 wby mag, 7mm rem mag, 375h&h. Everything without mbrake... I consider myself as a good shooter :), but there is always room for a tiny flinch after some time on the range... i do train to get rid of it e.g. Dryfire at home, but it would be great to here something from someone who i consider as professional. Questions for the upcoming video that might be intereseting (for me): What do mean by trigger time? Where to put your fingertip on the trigger? How to get consistant? Training tips on how to avoid/get rid of flinching? Sightcontrol? Thanks and best regards
Thanks Man, I will keep all that in mind, for you without a brake on hunting weight rifles, you want to at least have descent but pads on those rifles. But I will use that to help construct a video on this subject, Cheers
Awesome video very helpful. I see that vortex is building a scope that has 120moa of adjustment and at a entry level price, with the strike eagle line. Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork I think so as well I believe I'm going to try one my first elr build .. question what would you recommend for a cost effective entry level elr or ulr caliber any help would be greatly appreciated and a particular model that would work
really nice info about the scopes. lots of info too think about. and lots of peopel are brand name oriented. so there think if its not a brand its no good . have a look at this scope this has a didital read out PMR 428 SMART RIFLE SCOPE but only 85moa but its a start
Just found your channel, great stuff mate! I am considering getting my first rifle and getting into elr. Heard you talk in another video about picking a caliber that allows you to learn to make adjustments. I am on a budget and can get a package deal on a howa 1500 in a grs berserker for a good price. Seeing as I need alot of rounds downrange to learn from scratch, price plays a role here aswell. Was thinking about getting the rifle in a 223. I would like in time to be able to reach out at 1km. Do you have any thoughts? Keep the great content coming!
Have u ever looked at the Crusader with low dispersion "HD" Schott Glass, it is so clear. 5.8-40 with 100 moa 32 mrads, it's very nice also. Just an option. Shout out from philly, watched all your vids. Keep em coming. Thanks.
Yes, as you said, only 100moa and power that I don't need, you would also limit mounting choices with there 40mm tube, but still a great scope with top glass and great reviews, Cheers
I agree with u, I shoot prs competition, I stay around 25 power also. You put a lot of thought into it, very intelligent. I wish I could shoot as far as u, I do agree with you. Hard to say everything in a few words. Love the digital idea. First time I said this," thanks mate" 😉
Display elev/windage adjustments 'inside' the scope. Don't need any knobs on the outside. Press the 'up arrow' and the scope responds. 'Windage' arrow and the scope responds. You won't have to pull off the target to make changes. Interesting. Somebody's gonna come out with it pretty quick.
Hey mark was just watching this video again some gold here. I was actually looking at the sightron s3 6-24 myself as like you found in my research it ticks all the boxes for a lot cheaper than the atacr. Just wondering how you found the glass quality for ELR? I know in this video you said that the glass just has to be clear enough to do the job and it's not bird watching etc. how did you find the sightron s3 in general for ELR and Did you upgrade to the atacr mainly for the extra elevation or did the sightron have issues? Thanks mark
Hensoldt carries each of their model in Ffp and 2fp. For some reason the 2FPs have more elevation and field of view than FFP. Do you know a reason for that? (I have their 4-16x56 in ffp. The 2FPs 3-12x56 has 40 mrad and the 4-16x56 has 30 mrad. Then it goes down to 20 mrad for their more powerful scopes. mws-reps.com/documents/2012HensoldtProducts.pdf )
Lots going on with scope engineering, not always obvious why they do what they do, but not uncommon for low power scopes to have more adjustment, there is simply more room when using less power. Cheers
Someone figured out how to make the round counter from "Aliens", I think with your fab experience, you could figure out a click counter. That is an awesome suggestion!🇦🇺👍🇺🇸
Whats your thoughts on barrel length Mark? Looking at a 20" 223 1/9 twist. Want to use it for target shooting as well as vermin control using 68grain + bullets. Don't want to loose too much velocity for the target shooting side, It will be fitted with a moderator also. Cheers
Hi, well it would work for both. but IMO you have too much of a compromise to build a rifle to do both jobs, although the two rifles set ups can do the other job, a good target rifle is not right for hunting and a good hunting rifle is not as good for target work, Cheers
You produce a first rate video. Your opinions on this topic surpasses anything out there. Experience trumps the theorists book learning everytime
Thanks Man, Cheers
Excellent presentation. I really like that your not trying to come across as a bench rest shooter, or PRS or even a hunter, just a bloke laying on his guts hitting stuff he can barely see for no reason other than his own enjoyment, your gear selection and setups reflect that. You actually made a really good point and have actually helped me make a decision about my next scope purchase. Thanks guys
Cheers Ian, glad to have helped, Cheers and all the best.
Hi Mark, UK shooter here. Your knowledge is phenomenal and I value your opinions. Based off your videos I’ll be investing in a NF scope to mount on the 6.5creedmoor. Keep up the awesome work. Hands down the most informative and non biased RUclips shooting platform.
Thanks Richie, glad you like our stuff and thanks for the kind words, Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork anytime guys. Have you ever considered running shooting breaks to Australia? Us British shooters can only dream of shooting beyond 1200yards.
Well, not our property and very happy that we get to use for us, but not suited to more than that, so not something we could do where we are, but who knows in the future, Cheers and all the best.
I love the Nightforce 12-42x56. Windage and elevation repeat and return, spot on every single time. Aim point never changes with magnification or parallax adjustments. 23 years and still hasn’t shaken it’s guts loose. It’s out lived 3 barrels. I have no idea what the new ones are like.
Cheers
Thank you Mark great video , I have been experimenting with the Athlon range of scopes for F class up to 900 yards for a couple of matches and have found the Argos 8-34x56 an extremely reliable unit the glass is very clear for the price around $1100 perfect tracking and the settings are repeatable every time , I will be giving try in competition year it will be interesting to see how it performs
Cheers
Love the idea of a Heads Up system in the scope. Don’t have to take your eye off the target.
Thanks man Cheers
Great videos. As a relatively newbie to HV shooting here in the UK, I am learning a lot from you both so please keep them coming. I wish we had the distances you are shooting at, but the most I have found here is 1200yards/1100metres. Thanks again.
Thanks Roland, glad you liked, Cheers
Very well said, sir. Excellent video!You nailed it on the head with the general trend towards more and more mag and that atmospheric conditions become the limit. Most of the elite military sniper systems that are setting world records well over 2,500yds are using something in the 5-25x range. If more mag was of any benefit you can bet they’d have more. Let us also not forget that GySgt. Hathcock used an 8x Unertl to set a record 2,500yd KIA back in ‘67. 40x can be helpful if you want to measure your groups on paper at 100yds but that’s about the only range and application where such mag makes sense. My, (ahem), “long range” rifle is a .223 Rem 700 with a 1:9”. Factory 75gr match loads can only take me about 800-1000yd max (the farthest I can shoot in the wooded part of New England I’m in) so anything more than my Leupold 3-9x wouldn't benefit me. Most of my rifles are used for hunting so I try to make sure I have a low end mag no higher than 4x, preferably 2x or 3x for the low end with a high end between 9x to 12x so I can shoot long-ish ranges when I am able to. Many hunters “over scope” and put a 6-20x on a deer rifle but such a scope is useless for shots less than 100 yards. But this is all an entirely different rifle/scope application: not ELR.
It sounds like you’ve researched extensively and made very informed optics choices. And I would certainly hope any reputable company would give you a little support kick-back for the high praise and extensive press you’ve given them. Doesn’t taint your credibility on the matter at all with me and it also shows Nightforce’s dedication and loyalty. Thanks for the talk. Cheers.
Thanks Man, glad you liked and sounds like we are on the same page, Cheers and all the best
Mark I want to thank you for putting quality honest info out for people. If I'd have discovered your channel sooner id have saved a fortune. I have 5 sightron siii's 6-24-50. Moa 2 sfp, and absolutely love them, for 680$ on some websites it's a steal. Sightron installed zero stops for me on all of them for 150$ each. I have 1 atacr and love it. Keep the good info coming. Cheers! As a thank you for honest reviews and shared knowledge I contributed to your channel.
Thanks Matt, Cheers
I love my NF scope! Mine was made in Australia. Started reading about them in Precision Shooting magazine. One of my shooting mentors is Keith Highfield of Sydney. He’s in the Australian Benchrest Hall of fame. I have been to Australia and fell in love with your country. I’m from Montana and we are into long range shooting here though most of us frown on shooting game at extreme range. I really enjoy your videos.
Thanks Man, glad you like em, Cheers
I am using the 15-60x50 Vortex on my Remington 300WM with the Teludyne custom barrel. I have taken it out to 1500 yards. I didn't get into ELR shoot'n until I saw your videos. Keep the videos coming I learn something new with every video I watch.
Thanks Sonny, glad you enjoy, Cheers
+1 for wanting a digital display showing where you're dialed too. That would be awesome. Killer idea Mark. I'm going to try and push my Remington 700 in .308 to 1500 yards this weekend. Your guy's videos are super inspiring and full of great information, keep up the great work! Greetings from Northern California.
Thanks Man, glad you enjoy and hope your shoot goes well, Cheers
Great video Mark. Interesting choices. I fancy the IOR Valdada 16x56. Found one at a good price.
Cheers
I have never shot with the nf attacker but I have looked through a buddies and adjusted around on it. Well that scope has ruined me for buying anything else😁. I fell in love with NF after that. The Attacker is a masterpiece of what a scope should be. Flawless turrets, nice glass , and it's durable. That buddy of mine put that on his custom 50bmg and it is rock solid and would suit any magnum rifle. And I agree, less magnification is more. I think that getting that wider fov is essential to reading how the flight path is behaving. And I know that I am commenting on an older upload. I couldn't resist 😂. Great video!
Thanks again, Jeff, Cheers
i have a £419 hawke 6-24x50 30 sf.. good enough for me since its only on a 11.4ftlb hw97k air rifle..
ive seen you use it on a .22lr and you didnt crap on it to much so am happy 😆
Yes Hawke scopes are good value for money and not a bad bit of gear, we have one on the 17 Hornet. Cheers
yeah made my day seeing you guys use it on your rifle ! 👍🏻
Great informative video, thanks!
I opted for the 5-25x50 Vortex Viper PST for my 260 rem, I'm looking forward to seeing how it will perform.
Cheers
Wonderful explanation. I only use higher power scopes to see the target. I'm old now.
Thanks Joe, Cheers
Lots of very hood information. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
Thanks Bret, Cheers
Had no idea nightforce was Aussie mark certainly puts them at top of the list proud Queenslander
Hi Man, glad to share, Cheers
I can see a similar system to mirrorless cameras. They are now good enough for photography so I'm sure it would be enough for shooting. The optic and screen can then be separate and not have to be inline.
Cheers
Mark you might look at the Revic PMR 428 Smart Rifle Scope. It doesn't have as much elevation as you were mentioning but it has some of the others such as a HUD. An interesting read about future possibilities in optics at any rate.
Thanks Man, yes have seen this scope and looks very nice, more a hunting/long range rather than ELR and not sure about some of the features and as said would really like the settings displayed, but it stills looks like a great bit of gear, Cheers
Thanks for the info. Talkative weiros too.
Lol, Cheers
Thank you
Cheers
Thanks Mark, very informative.
Cheers
Really nice to get your opinion on scope choices mark. If my racecar sells i was going to look at purchasing a nxs 5x22 nightforce. That sightron you were talking about could be another option after listening to this cheers.
Cheers Man, yes both great choices, just depends on your budget, Cheers
Living in Alabama my ELR is basically 500 yds it’s hard with mountainous terrain and tree heavy terrain to find many places where 500 yds is even possible.....what are your scope preferences for up to 500 yds.....brand wise and reticle wise
There are many choices, and FFP would be fine for that distance, so your biggest problem is so many to choose from, Cheers
What part of Bama are you in? I am in the Muscle Shoals area and can easily find 1000 to 1500 yards. Find some farmers, help them out when you can and good shooting spots open up in the spring and fall.
For 600 yards or less, any quality 2-7 or 3-9 will get you there. 4-12 is probably the most I’d want. Unless you’re trying to print a ragged hole at 400, higher mag won’t help any. Like Mark said, you have far too many good options. Probably can’t get a bad one.
BRET LAWSON I am as well. We should talk. The cypress creek guys can give you my number. Talk to Wes.
Hey,
I'm hunting and I will be more often in the alps (austria) where long range shots are needed.
For that reason, could you do a video about triggercontrol and flinching?
Would be great to see how you deal with it and how you train.
Greetings from germany
Thanks man, I will have to put some thought into that for a video, main fix is trigger time and use a calibre the you are comfortable with, (bigger is not better when it comes to a flinch), Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork thanks for answering. I guess that would be a great video, since you work very detailed on everything.
Hunting large game on distance requires a fast and powerful projectile to make sure everything you hit is dead before it can hear the shot. Thats my main approach when it comes to shooting animals.
I'm shooting 300win mag, .257 wby mag, 7mm rem mag, 375h&h.
Everything without mbrake...
I consider myself as a good shooter :), but there is always room for a tiny flinch after some time on the range... i do train to get rid of it e.g. Dryfire at home, but it would be great to here something from someone who i consider as professional.
Questions for the upcoming video that might be intereseting (for me):
What do mean by trigger time?
Where to put your fingertip on the trigger?
How to get consistant?
Training tips on how to avoid/get rid of flinching?
Sightcontrol?
Thanks and best regards
Thanks Man, I will keep all that in mind, for you without a brake on hunting weight rifles, you want to at least have descent but pads on those rifles. But I will use that to help construct a video on this subject, Cheers
Awesome video very helpful. I see that vortex is building a scope that has 120moa of adjustment and at a entry level price, with the strike eagle line. Cheers
Hi James, yes, in the 3-18, I have not seen one but could be a descent entry level ELR contender, Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork I think so as well I believe I'm going to try one my first elr build .. question what would you recommend for a cost effective entry level elr or ulr caliber any help would be greatly appreciated and a particular model that would work
Hi James, well I have a series on here about that, here is that playlist ruclips.net/p/PL9Nev6hdBFwVeQekVMieorvNqGxYfsiAD hope that helps, Cheers
Cheers
really nice info about the scopes. lots of info too think about. and lots of peopel are brand name oriented. so there think if its not a brand its no good . have a look at this scope this has a didital read out
PMR 428 SMART RIFLE SCOPE but only 85moa but its a start
Thanks Man, yes I would agree, not a ELR scope but it a start into the new era, Cheers
I think you covered basically what I am asking but this vid was a lot to process....
Cheers
Thank you for a great video! Have you ever used a Bushnell DMR II 3.5-21x50 scope? What do you think about using this scope for ELR shooting?
Thanks Man, no I have not, seem to be a good scope, but FFP so not what I would choose, Cheers
Never realized how much windage is used for ELR shooting. That is crazy to dial 40 minutes for wind..
Yep, lol, Cheers
great info sir, Thank you.
Cheers
Just found your channel, great stuff mate! I am considering getting my first rifle and getting into elr. Heard you talk in another video about picking a caliber that allows you to learn to make adjustments. I am on a budget and can get a package deal on a howa 1500 in a grs berserker for a good price. Seeing as I need alot of rounds downrange to learn from scratch, price plays a role here aswell. Was thinking about getting the rifle in a 223. I would like in time to be able to reach out at 1km. Do you have any thoughts? Keep the great content coming!
HI Man, well all depends on the details, here is a link to that series, ruclips.net/p/PL9Nev6hdBFwVeQekVMieorvNqGxYfsiAD, Cheers
Howd you go? I'm itching to get into it.
a great video. I am shocked there are only 3500 views.
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Нас мало, але ми любим цей канал
I have found that a scopes Definition gives the shooter a more clear present view . Just my opinion.
Cheers
Have u ever looked at the Crusader with low dispersion "HD" Schott Glass, it is so clear. 5.8-40 with 100 moa 32 mrads, it's very nice also. Just an option. Shout out from philly, watched all your vids. Keep em coming. Thanks.
Yes, as you said, only 100moa and power that I don't need, you would also limit mounting choices with there 40mm tube, but still a great scope with top glass and great reviews, Cheers
I agree with u, I shoot prs competition, I stay around 25 power also. You put a lot of thought into it, very intelligent. I wish I could shoot as far as u, I do agree with you. Hard to say everything in a few words. Love the digital idea. First time I said this," thanks mate" 😉
Thanks mate, Cheers.
Display elev/windage adjustments 'inside' the scope. Don't need any knobs on the outside.
Press the 'up arrow' and the scope responds. 'Windage' arrow and the scope responds.
You won't have to pull off the target to make changes.
Interesting.
Somebody's gonna come out with it pretty quick.
Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork cheerio
Hey mark was just watching this video again some gold here. I was actually looking at the sightron s3 6-24 myself as like you found in my research it ticks all the boxes for a lot cheaper than the atacr. Just wondering how you found the glass quality for ELR? I know in this video you said that the glass just has to be clear enough to do the job and it's not bird watching etc. how did you find the sightron s3 in general for ELR and Did you upgrade to the atacr mainly for the extra elevation or did the sightron have issues? Thanks mark
Hi Man, the SIII are great bang for the buck, and glass is good, not at the ATACR levels but still a good scope, Cheers
A digital display... for elevation and windage....made to be less rather than more expensive? Would be excellent
Cheers
Good video. Why didn't you touch on the NF Beast Mark?
BILL G. Oh that's right. I didn't think about the Beast being ffp
Yes that's it, FFP, so more suited to PRS but otherwise a great scope, Cheers
Great stuff again! I'm also a big fan of the ATACR.
Cheers
NF are Aus. !!! that makes sense. Now I just have to get one. lol
Cheers
Just watched a video on the Burris Eliminator 6…… I think they watched this video!!!
Lol, Cheers Man
Hensoldt carries each of their model in Ffp and 2fp. For some reason the 2FPs have more elevation and field of view than FFP. Do you know a reason for that? (I have their 4-16x56 in ffp. The 2FPs 3-12x56 has 40 mrad and the 4-16x56 has 30 mrad. Then it goes down to 20 mrad for their more powerful scopes. mws-reps.com/documents/2012HensoldtProducts.pdf )
Lots going on with scope engineering, not always obvious why they do what they do, but not uncommon for low power scopes to have more adjustment, there is simply more room when using less power. Cheers
Someone figured out how to make the round counter from "Aliens", I think with your fab experience, you could figure out a click counter. That is an awesome suggestion!🇦🇺👍🇺🇸
Cheers
Thanks for another great video,very informative👍
Thanks Nick Cheers
I have a NF on my BR 1k rifle.
Cheers
Your thoughts on the new March Genesis ELR scope? Are you in line to get one to show the world?
Ah maybe watch the video again, I go through my thoughts there. Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork don’t be a dick mate just answer the question
Whats your thoughts on barrel length Mark? Looking at a 20" 223 1/9 twist. Want to use it for target shooting as well as vermin control using 68grain + bullets. Don't want to loose too much velocity for the target shooting side, It will be fitted with a moderator also. Cheers
Hi, well it would work for both. but IMO you have too much of a compromise to build a rifle to do both jobs, although the two rifles set ups can do the other job, a good target rifle is not right for hunting and a good hunting rifle is not as good for target work, Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork Ok thanks for the response on both questions, appreciate it. Something else for me to think about. Cheers