Some suggestions on sighting in your rifle
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Yes, YES, YES! Practice with a rifle the way you will be using it. Great video Mark! This is what I teach at the range when my mates ask me to help them sight in their hunting rifles. I know some guys who shoot well enough off a rest at the range but consistently miss when shooting off-hand in the field. I try to teach them the difference, and most have an "Ahah!" moment, but some horses, having been lead to the water still refuse to drink. Oh well....Cheers to you and Sam!
Lol, yes you can get that, glad you liked, Cheers
The only videos where i put the like button before viewing it
Lol, Cheers Man, thanks
Always useful and entertaining!
FANTASTIC. Perfectly said. Thos is exactly why my precision rifles are sighted for bipod, because that's how I shoot them. My hunting guns I use a bag UNDER my offhand. I want it to steady ME not the rifle. Otherwise it needs to simulate the shots I will take in the field. Also a good ideas: prop up against a sapling, and test. Shoot from a less ideal position, test again. Spend some time learning your guns. So many times folks discover "hell Cletus.. my sights moved since last season!" when the rifle didn't change at all. They just changed how they shot it.
Some rifles are very tolerant to variability in hold. If you have one of those rifles- cherish it. Never sell it.
yep, thanks Matt, Cheers
I famous golfer once said "Golf is a matter of luck, the more I practice the luckier I get." Most of my hunting rifles I sight in with my hand between the gun and what ever rest Im using. Not sold on the shooting stick idea , I only just started using one and haven't quite got the technique sorted yet. I was using it more like a tripod and it made the the .17 shoot way high.
Yep, practise is the key, and then all about the thinking, working out what works, lol, cheers
Gary Player
I have been a follower of your videos from the beginning. Being from the US I hope with everything going on in your country you are safe.
Thanks Man, yes we are good over here, hope the same for you there, Cheers
Yes Mark, it makes perfect sense. Looks like I will be setting up my different rifles differently according to their primary usage. Much appreciated yet again.
Cheers Dave, thanks man
Train as you fight, fight as you train. Always solid advice!
Yep, Cheers
Amen! Practice is the key...learning that has made me a successful hunter, and that's what makes it so fun to me. Love practicing how I hunt, makes me feel so much more confident. Thanks again you too.
Agreed, thanks Man, Cheers
Thank you for the time to explain what seems simple, but a lot of us mess up.
Cheers Jerry
I learn something new every time I watch one of videos. Thank you for the great instruction.
Cheers Man, thanks
Hi Mark, another very informative video that will be useful not only to newbies but seasoned shooters alike. I like the way you go into the mechanicals of rifle shooting making it easy to follow. i used to shoot centre fire but now i only shoot .22lr at 25 yards to 100 yards (target only). When centre fire rounds got to getting on for a £ a bang it was out of my budget but now i can throw lead down range and not worry about getting through too many.
Over here in the UK i have found my CZ 455 loves SK Standard Plus ammo and it's roughly £95 for a couple of bricks so nothing like so restrictive as full bore fodder.
Anyway mate, you guys keep them videos coming.
ATB.
Thanks man, glad you liked, Cheers
More trigger time is key, period! Mark, this has been one of the best videos you've released. I just nodded as you spoke, especially about using a brace for sighting-in and then wondering why off-hand shots don't have the same POI. Yeah, really a great presentation about a very common problem.
Thanks Paul, cheers and all the best.
100% mate.
My hunting shots are taken prone over a bipod with my backpack as a rear rest, so that's exactly how I sight in my rifle and how I practice at my range.
Awesome, thanks Tony, Cheers
I appreciate all the information and time you put into these videos, I will be sighting my new loads in with prime position as that’s what I plan on doing with them, never thought about this before hand,
Again thank you for the content and great videos
Cheers
Another fantastic video!!! That 505 Gibbs is a beautiful rifle!!! Thank you once again for explaining everything in extreme depth. I shoot my 22 at the range more than shoot anything else, thank you for confirming what I was taught when I first started shooting about 40 years ago. Practice in any caliber is better than no practice at all! Cheers!!!
Yep, Cheers man, thanks
Well said! Experience and practice are great teachers!!! I think a lot of times we just want to know what the rifle can do so we tend to isolate it so we can say that it is the shooter and not the rifle moreso-now i understand it is more complex than that!!! Thanks Sam, you are a wise shooter as always!!!
Thanks Man, Cheers
Another video with lots of great information ... thanks Mark.
Cheers Shane, thanks man.
Thanks for a great video! You just reminded me to go back to the range with my 222 and see what the POI difference is between bench and sitting on the ground with Triggersticks. I zeroed the rifle off the bench but use the rifle almost exclusively by sitting on my behind in the forest with the rifle on PrimosTriggerstick bipod with a Spartan Davros head. I have shot several foxes at around 100 meters with no issue but never did the homework with checking the POI difference (if any) between bench and sticks. Thanks again! Some really great points you make in the video 🙏🏻
Thanks Mna, Cheers
Now i feel better about having not been to the range. I just practice on my 243 in the bush and surrounding paddocks with hills trees boulders and all sorts of elevation changes. Thanks for the tips
Awesome, Cheers Paul
Awesome information, this has made me reconsider my approach and can only improve me as an ethical hunter.
Cheers man, thanks
Another great vid and explanations - thank you Sir :)
cheers Oddur, thanks mate.
Excellent video again 👍 Great look of all the aspects. Holding, bipod, bench rest etc.
Cheers Man, thanks
Thanks Mark another great session , steve
Cheers Steve, thanks
Thanks for more useful information to send people to.
Cheers Charles, thanks
Good stuff Man. Very true.
Thanks Man, Cheers
Another helpful and informative discussion. A .22 is great for practicing off hand for sure.
Agreed, Cheers
great lesson mate i have learnt so much with this video make so much sense now
Cheers Brad, thanks man
Well said hero 👍👍
Cheers
Excellent video Mark ( as is most of your work)
I have been trying to explain what You have just said, for the last 25 years to ppl and had a lot of mixed reactions.
Thanks Bryan, glad you liked, Cheers
Excellent thanks Mark cheers Yogi 🤙🤙
Thanks Yogi, Cheers
I shot a 22lr bolt action for several years before moving to other stuff. I think a 22 bolt action is great for learning/practicing fundamentals of marksmanship. All your points here are dead on. I am always nagged in the back of my mind that I'm not getting the full accuracy potential out of a given rifle during load dev when I shoot off a bipod but that's how I will be shooting the guns. Shooting groups off a tripod will really exploit fundamental weakness. Ive just been working on gripping the rifle consistently, executing the shots the same way no matter the position.
Sounds like you have that all sorted, good work, Cheers
Great video mate, keep up the excellent content
cheers Joe, thanks
Great Video!
Thanks Amir, Cheers
I was practicing your grip video this week with improved group size! Also noticed my point of impact was different on the bench versus prone as you discuss in this video.
Another thought I had watching this video had to do with scope mounting height. You are a fan of a higher scope which is more natural in the prone position. As the scope mount increases in height above the bore, the centerline of the bore becomes lower and gets closer to actually running more directly through the stock and into the shoulder, (as long as the butt pad is raised to accommodate the higher scope) thus limiting muzzle rise!
Cheers Man, glad you liked.
Scope mounting height should be co-ordinated with the drop at the comb. If your drop at the comb is too pronounced, you need a very low mount or to use iron sights. Most rifles on which are mounted scopes have little or no drop. This is important because you want a firm bond between your mug and the stock. That helps to brace the rifle and to keep it steady before and during the shot. You will not have that if you have to stretch your neck high from the comb to see through the scope. On the other hand, if your scope is too low or you are using back-up iron sights on a stock designed for a high scope, you will be very uncompfortable whilst sighting and more so when the rifle recoils.
True for the traditional hunting hunting stock. I’m thinking more in terms of a chassis style stock where everything is adjustable, comb and butt pad.
"Lead Sled" I learnt something new today
Cheers
Hi Mark, it makes alot of sense now.
Beautiful CZ550 shame they were dropped from production.
Thanks David, Cheers
22 is my favorite rifle and pistol. I have the massive Arken 6-24x50 on a m&p 22 (16in barrel) I can hit a 5 inch plinker 25x in a row at 200yds. And it only costs $1.75 to do that.
Yep, lol, Cheers
I really need to take my 15-22 out for some plinking. It was the first gun I bought. Probably close to 20k down the barrel. It's my small game gun.
Shooting a target rifle every time the sights had to be adjusted ( Redfield Olympic mounted Remington 40 XB ) every time. I use the lead sled for initial sighting in every thing locked-up, for load development either a sling or bipod. I check point of impact before every use normally .5 rounds, 3 1 and 1.
Cheers
Well done again.Recombobulate , I might use that one.🤔
Lol, Cheers
Very good my friend
cheers Walter
So big teacher. Thank you, I hope could do ELR onde day.....
Excellent advice Mark, common sense stuff I'm sure I knew... but don't apply nearly often enough! 🤣
Cheers Richard thanks
I love shooting a lot, but, like everybody know it will become very expensive if you do it a lot. Also, to shoot the noisy boom-booms I need to travel to a shooting range some distance away. Therefore I use my PCP air rifle and even a break barrel a lot. Once you then pick up a center fire all the practical things is sort of muzzle memory then. And it is MUCH cheaper.
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I think I said this in your last video when a comment that I sight in on my rifles the way that I'm going to use them that way I know there's no point of impact shift whether it be a millimeter or a footI don't want her to be any shift and I've learned that from you way back when I started watching your videos to sight in your rifles how you would be using them
Yep, lol, thanks man, cheers
@@markandsamafterwork also side note thanks for a new term for my Henry 45-70 1800s AR priceless
I'm shooting at least a thousand rounds by year....
You're right, this is the key.
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Yep, sure is, Cheers Philippe, all the best.
I’m getting a thermal scope. Perfect timing!
Cheers
Do you think I could borrow it? I'll DM you.
@@yongyea4147 lol good luck with that
In order to be a Great pistol or revolver shooter I was seriously shooting 7 days week and 400 to 1200 rounds a week back then brass and all reloading equipment was cheap I also cast my own pistol and rifle bullets
Awesome, Cheers
Mark, as I have stated before, I am not a very big fan of Lead-Sleds. I can't tell you how many times, over the years, I've watched hunters use them to sight in their rifles and put them back into their case to take them hunting. When they would listen to me and take them back out and shoot them, they were amazed what happened to the groups they had previously shot. Additionally, I have seen large caliber rifles, that were pillar bedded, have their stocks cracked and broken from shooting in one.
Agreed, see the same, lol, Cheers
I live in a subdivision with homes too close to shoot any rifle even 22lr I do shoot a PCP rifle in .25 cal for squirrels. What do you think of the dry fire laser systems for more trigger time with my AR and pistols. P.S. Another informative video Thanks.
Not used them, sorry, Cheers
Anything you can do for practice helps. The lasers are great for practicing trigger control. They really allow you to see real time any fluctuating with your trigger pull in a safe manner. Just remember no live ammo in the same room or place that you practice and never leave the device in the firearm when you finish.
So if I understand practice the same way you want to shoot. Like if you want to run a marathon you don't just practice running 10 feet at a time. Or take a top fuel dragster to practice a road course. Makes sense to me.
Stay safe. Take care. Have fun. 😎
Yep, Cheers Gary
Really looking for something other than a Harris. I ordered a real Harris without realizing it doesn't have a tension adjustment for the cant. I have a magpul bipod which I like but still feel like there is a space in the market for something to really do well if its properly engineered and priced. Not ready to spend the $$$ on an Atlas yet. Any suggestions?
Well you see what we use, and haven't done anything with budget options for years, so sorry no help here, lol, Cheers
@@Griffo34 all the knock offs I have have it but I ordered one from Harris and it just has a big plastic knob that doesnt turn. Maybe Im missing something.
G'day Mark, I know you don't give advice but my RPR in .338LM has now 3x had brass stuck in the barrel, I am not hot loading it 88-89g of powder, Match primers & 300g match pills & the recent brass that is still stuck in the barrel is actual Lapua brass never fired before, Last time this happened was 11 rounds ago & I saw no problem after shooting it with the brass. When I shoot it on Monday though after the brass got stuck I felt the primer on the 1st case and where the pin hit it caused the primer to have sharp edges where it hit so much It could cut skin. I have had it been seen by a gunsmith in the past since then I have fired 11 shots through it "all up 241 shots" have you ever heard or seen this before, Once again I am not asking for advice just your honest opinion. Do I try get a new rifle or try fix it? Oh and thanks for what you both do.
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@@markandsamafterwork Thank you mate may you both have a great weekend.
I zero with lead sled then for coyote hunting I shoot off by pod and even different adjustments in height changes point of zero
Yes, thanks George all the best
Is the cz 22lr precision trainer worth the extra money over the basic cz 22lr? $400 difference
The difference is just the manners stock that came with the precision trainer. Good stock.
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Hey!! Maybe my comments had something to do with this! That would be cool
Yep, lol, Cheers
Sooo, similar to the concepts of shooting a spring powered air rifle.
Cheers
what are your thoughts on bore sighting ? good bad? accurate?
Well I always start there, but only for a starting point, before actually shooting and zeroing, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork thanx 😁👍
@@madcapmagician6018 he's right it's a very good starting point. You can take off the buttstocks on ar15s if you can't just pull the bolt. Works wonders.
@@yongyea4147 For the AR platform, just use a dental mirror. OOOOOORR..... in a dark room shine a super bright mini pen light down the bore and move your crosshairs to the light spot on the wall. That'll get you hitting paper at 25m. From there you're off and running.
@@Rico11b thanx 😁👍
Last week I switched from my atlas to a harris just to make sure I still liked the atlas better. Holy man was their a poi shift. Only a couple clicks at 100 but it was like 2 moa at 1000 yards
Lol, yep, Cheers
0:01 when you say it that fast, it sounds like, Welcome to Mark and Sam Underwear
Lol, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork have a good weekend. Thanks for the knowledge!
Part of that is the foreign language spoken down under. 😂
@@John-uo1qf Nah, it is the foreign language spoken up north of the equator. I understood Mark perfectly. Greetings from down under!
David Handyman spot on Dave cheers Yogi 🇦🇺🤙🤙
For my kind of shooting I zero at 50 yards
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Still to this day haven't been to a range. ( Guess im lucky to be surrounded by farm land ) Haven't used a sled. I just decided to sight in and learn the same way i was planning to shoot it. I cant understand all these hunting RUclips videos bolting the gun down in a sled then saying 1 inch groups all day people. From what i have learnt from a small time is thats abit of BS. Every shot in the field will be different.
Agreed, thanks Paul, Cheers Man
you kill what kind of cats
Feral. Major problem over there.
Feral, cheers