Bro this was what it was like !! Chills my bones tbh!!! I came out good though!! Live in America now got a good life !!! Was born in lewisham hospital and lived in new cross ! My parents used to drop me off in the ferrier estate at my aunties house with no idea what that meant! I got dropped off at other uncles and auntie houses in lewisham and brockley too! Just never got caught up ! American gangs may seem more deadly but ….. Europe as a whole is / has a way more darker energy to it!
Tell me about it, we was all like this around our area from like 13 - 20ish, horrible behaviour when you look back. Gladly none of my friends was killed from it all.
That interview with the Met police commander was fucking unbelievable. Just goes to show they waited for the problem to get out of hand before they took any real action - makes you think how many lives could have been saved had they took things more seriously.
It’s classic police action. A lot of times the police will refuse to take action for things like a missing person, they try to convince the person making the report they have to wait 24-48 hours, or they shrug them off as a runaway. If someone burgles your house all they do is take a report and move on. Half the time it takes them hours and hours to show up so you can just make a report. Nothing happens unless they’re lucky enough to catch a crime in the act or the crime is extreme enough.
What a great classic documentary, till this day in 2020 should have a MBE award for catching these classic times also some famous to now members. Thanks 🙏🏽 for catching this and putting together
I know the interviewer... He had a basement office near Ladbroke Grove in London. Cant remember his name this was back in the late 80s early 90s... Those were the days. He also attended a gym very near the Portobello rd market. The interviewer was always way ahead of his time. For anybody from West London who can remember the Front Line on ALL SAINTs Road... Big shout out... Brings back so many memories. I was brought up on the Lisson Grove Estate. We were know as the Edgeware Rd boys. Must admit we were tame, but had out moments. Im in my late 50s now and living in Vancouver. I will never never never forget my home boys...😎
I was born and lived in Westbourne Park. Spent many years on All Saints Road, Portobello Market and Powis Square etc in the 80’s and 90’s. Go back occasionally, bit posher than when I lived there like 😂
Amazing documentary... a shame it wasn’t all taken seriously back then .. copper was in denial! All about looking good and there stats. 20 years later nearly and gangs running rife through London. My heart bleeds for the mothers especially the mother of John and Jude ❤️🙏🏼
Facts!!! The officer's denial and his reluctance to implement a gang strategy nearly 20s years ago has now resulted in an epidemic of youth violence. I wonder how many senior officers had his approach because policing this problem now has become reactic. Youth violence is completely out of control.
@@the-blue-barron2791 init these lot really think london is bad now because of drill music and beef. But back then anyone was getting touched these days it's more targeted
It's mad how mature the kids are when they talk, and I just feel like it's because kids back then grew up in real life but these days kids are inside growing up of social media.
@@wackyclock lool some weird reply all I was saying was kids back then were outside more and seemed more mature. These days kids grow up of video games and social media inside. Dunno what ur on
@@duncanmurphy9762 you would turn on the car radio and it would be banger after banger.. nothing but classics, now you turn on the radio it's filled with all the same generic shit, no variety of music anymore just the same old mainstream crap on repeat. There was no agendas on your tv, they weren't trying to brainwash us with all this LGBTQ and "lack of diversity" nonsense, comedy's could actually make dark jokes about anything, the price of food and energy bills were much more affordable, everything was better back then.
The officer's denial and his reluctance to implement a gang strategy nearly 20s years ago has now resulted in an epidemic of youth violence. I wonder how many senior officers had his approach because policing this problem now has become reactic. Youth violence is completely out of control.
@@TommyL514 STFU, about victim mentality!!! Know the facts before coming on here accusing someone you don't know about victim mentality! The police have a duty to prevent crime and disorder. There was clearly an issue of youth violence twenty years ago which senior police officers chose to ignore. The repercussions of that is we have out of control youths!!! Bring facts to the conversation before hurling petty insults to people you don't know!
Yeh thats really annoying ,not like hed done anything ,he walked down a road .Must admit ive driven through merseyside & seen the scrotes on their BMX`s ( in their 30s ffs ) & you wanna run em over but that makes me the bad guy :/
@@justintime5229 yeah I hear you, we worry so much about how criminals are treated that victims are forgotten, I feel sorry for kids trying to do good when everything is against them.
Makes me understand why my parents generation were always saying "bring back national service"! I also remember (just!) Mods and rockers.. Brighton grinding to a halt. Boys this age have always been at risk of this behaviour. At least in the countryside you can give them an axe and a pile of wooden pallets and set them chopping firewood instead of each other 😂 I can't imagine how nice the lady running the youth club is,I know I wouldn't want to do it! We do need a nationwide strategy for youth services, shutting them down wholesale was a catastrophe. But the traditional form of a hall with a stereo and a couple of pool tables isn't enough. Boys like this need real challenges so they stop inventing them for themselves.
Love how when the guy doing the documentary's doin the commentary hes all prim and proper but when hes talking to the lads hes like "wag1 my g whats appening ? suttin a gwarn ya ear me" loooooool
This video had me hypnotised and transported back in time. These were my teenage years. It’s mad listening to all the lads accents. London youths sounds so so different now, not the slang, that moves with the fashion but the accents. Ahhh It was such a fucking good time to be alive, schott jackets, looney tunes spray painted on your air force trainers down shepherds bush market, trousers tucked in your socks haha UK Garage transitioning to grime 12 fosters £5, £2 for10 BnH silver and an oz hash £40. Oh ffs Take me back 😭 😂😂
oh man you took me back too... hash 40 a z, man that was the days.. up in birmingham now youre lucky if you can get a Q for 55 on hash, bud is the same. but money had more value then. i do miss camberwell, lewisham and brixton but the whole energy changed about 15yrs ago..
I grew up in south East London around all the gang stuff … glad my parents were able to keep me away from it! My son is one year old and I got know doubt my son will also not be involved ! Prayers sent to the young lads who have never been given the guidance I had!
I remember watching this on TV in 2003/2004. I was in year 10, top of the class expected to go on and study at Oxford/Cambridge. I joined the gang life, got out quickly, went to a shit uni got a 2:2, now working for a bank. Driving an 07 plate Merc😂😂😂
You obviously haven’t watched the film. The kid who had to leave wasnt in a gang. Kids get caught up and done for not joining gangs. They get done at school and on their estate.
also the Ferrier estate which was a no go around 2008.There were blocks where only a couple residents were living in and the conditions were terrible and the gangs were active but the place doesn't exist anymore. They knocked it down for private homes and only around 20% social housing.
If you watch any old documentaries about deprived areas of Britain in the 1950s, 60s and 70s, the people are always quite well dressed, dignified, articulate and trying their best to provide for their families. But in the last 40 years gradually everyone has become scruffier and scruffier and the low standards of education mean that they can barely speak proper English. It's appalling what has happened over the decades.
Love the way the interviewer changes up his accent and way of speak when narrating and when chatting normally and freely. A lot of people watching won't be able to relate
I grew up on the Cambridge Estate in Kingston, my mum moved us away when someone got stabbed to death a few ft from me whilst I was playing with friends.
32:28 This young kid thinking about how his family could suffer having to bury him....man for a kid of that age to be so aware of this is so poignant and terrifying
People back then were more mature for their age, they were inside less. These days kids just grow up inside of social media and don't experiences real life thinggs
Its so funny when the reporter starts talking to danny in the roadman accent jsut to get him to talk then he speaks back to the camera with this posh accent lol
6:22 - Rest in peace Charlie Lockyer, who passed away Nov 2022. A world renowned skater with a talented past and bright future, leaving gang life behind after filming. This is a snapshot from the entity of a man who lived a few lives, having experienced a lot by his early 20s, and moving on to coach youngsters in recent years. His family are taking donations via gofundme.
I am watching this for the very first time and guess who's album came out on this day? Yep you guest it, 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’ released 6th February 2003. The Algorithm Gods are working overtime!!!!
I met a few guys in gangs in 2001 when I visited England, it was interesting to see the differences and similarities to our gangs in the US. The gangs in England tend to attack in bigger groups, with knives and machetes. In the US its usually a smaller group of heavily armed guys hosing down the large group. US gang members have a higher danger of being killed by police, in England they arent worried about the police because as you see they dont use the same tactics against them. I dont know how much has changed in those 20 plus years, but what I saw was an equally dangerous gang but different tactics.
Depends, there's always been police here with guns, they're just in specific departments. But I mean back then... yeah they didn't seem so serious. But generally, when a gun is reported, the gun squad comes, if it's knives they don't.
I'd say they've gotten worse and probably more similar to the american gangs these days. These days everyones got a big fat knife down there trousers and a lot of them have guns too, social media has made tensions worse and instead of vandalising bus stops and stealing phones they're all selling hard drugs and doing armed robberies on other drug dealers. On the plus side you're a lot less likely to get randomly attacked as long as you don't look like one of them. Still I grew up in a relatively not too bad part of central london and I used to hear at least one or two shootings happen on my street every year which I don't think would've been the case 20 years ago.
I had the misfortune to live in Northampton's Red Light District for a while. It was insane. From teenage Prossies to gun carrying crack dealers it was mental. I thought Northampton would be a small, quiet town. It was a dodgy shit hole. Sorry Northampton, I really hope you've changed in the 20 years since I was last there.
its a mixed bag, the seeling of drugs is in city center right infront of police, and drug addicts get high every where, pack of teenagers roaming the parks, its a small town but for a short time i was there, seen few incidents , seems like whole england is infected, the "regular" youth still go in city center to get drunk out of their minds and the district is ridddled with nitrous capsules...but it becomes like that in easter europe too, not getting better mate, its the end times
When I started reading Jerusalem by Alan Moore I became interested in visiting Northampton. I eventually got around to it. Disappointment is an understatement. Absolute shit hole. But a lot of Britain is like that these days. It's a real shame.
great documentary! the first estate with the low rise flats talking bout PTS is the watersedge estate in Ewell, on the outskirts of south London. I remember when at 7pm there would be a huge pack od dogs, you see the people let them out and they ran riot lol. Anyways since this documentary the estate got much worse. Looks can be deceiving it does look all good but theres alot of crack dealers street drinkers and the current gang WEC (Watersedge crew) i must admit there is nothing to do there. There is one shop and in the lst couple of years they built a skatepark so at least the coucil is trying to help the youth problem. But that estate is nowhere near as bad as some of the other estates near by. Which is a good thing. We need peace unity not violence.
I grew up on the ferrier in the 80’s/90’s and everyone was so poor we all stuck together. If there was ever any rivalry with other gangs, thamesmead, woolwich, barnfield estates the rave scene brought us all together. I remember going back in these times (when this was filmed) to visit my family and it was like a Somali war zone.
@@marctomkins I get what you mean, was SE1 myself in the 90's and got fronted by a gang from another code looking for somebody i knew, but wouldn't call a friend, over a stolen bike. I was literally about to get attacked by about 12 lads as one took a swing at me when one of them recognised me from the 'rave scene' (think I'd bought a shed load of pills off him for me and all my mates) and he called his boys off saying he's (me) is safe. So yeah thank fuck for the rave scene, well in those days anyway 👍
This was filmed in 2003, and Somali’s have been coming to the UK since at least the 80s, but a lot more came after 1997 when Toby Blair was in power, and from then on that’s when Woolwich boys were mostly Somali. They’ve gotten more diverse again nowadays
@@AnteNDH1 Part of it was filmed around where I grew up and featured people I knew. I came across the documentary in the video archive room at Richmond College, along with another one that also featured a local area and a different gang, but since then I could never remember them clearly and couldn't find them to rewatch
some make it out and live normal lives - you'd never know. others cant get out and either die fighting, die in prison, or die on drugs eventually. everyone involved pays a price for certain.
I am from the same peer group as 24:00 . I can't ID them all but a few. I am now in my mid-30s and can tell you I live a staggeringly different life. My children are oblivious to the traumas I went through, and any old acquaintances from those times. I learned many great lessons from being in the thick of it and have become sharply aware of how to make things right for my kids. I am in a stable marriage and if you were to pass me on the street you would never know that I would sit on a brick wall all hours of the day with many of those people scheming and planning degeneracy and delinquent acts. There is a mother in this show, the mother of Jude. I remember when that happened, and as a parent now, I can't believe she never pulled her son out of that cesspit St Josephs's academy. Violence in school is a red flag and should never be tolerated.
Grew up with people in the Cambridge estate which is where the gang wk comes from and it’s rough, there should be more documentary’s and research on the place because there’s a lot of stuff that hapoened
Poor boy Daryl I see all his cups and medals, probably got a bright future and hang members dont like anyone who has a chance of living a decent clean life!
if my kid gets beat up at school on a regular basis and nothing's done about it HE'S SIMPLY NOT GOING TO SCHOOL. I'm sorry but my kids not losing his life for education, from when a pupil in school is a threat to your life and authoritative figures like TEACHERS set an example of injustice there's no way i'd let my kid leave that door. As a black man i understand financially it may not be easy to keep your kid at home, but i for sure know its even harder to mourn them for the rest of your life just wishing you didn't continuously send them into deaths hands. My families been in this situation and the police arrested no one, i just didnt go to school till my life wasn't in danger and live to tell the tale.
The mistrust of Police and unwillingness to talk to them is a direct result of the war on drugs. Even just using that term forces people to pick a side.
All the governments plan, make fortunes sending people to prison and the kids killing eachother makes the job easier moving them out and gentrifying places…rich get richer
The tape jumped. He said he was from the Stonebridge estate. Ishmahil Blagrove (the narrator) grew up in a flat on that NW10 estate, raised by his Jamaican parents. Back in the days when the blocks were there.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea !" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
We are currently the 6th richest nation on earth. Ask why there were and still are these levels of poverty and inequality when the rich have never been richer. There’s money… but why aren’t we seeing it? It’s by design, to quote Rishi Sunak: “I managed to start changing the funding formulas, to make sure areas like this (Tunbridge Wells) are getting the funding they deserve because we inherited a bunch of formulas from Labour that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas and that needed to be undone. I started the work of undoing that.” Stop voting for the millionaires party, get real people into positions of power so we can reduce the gap between rich and poor and end inequality.
@@nothanksggl6599 You’re absolutely right, compared to Lagos this is a paradise, but that doesn’t mean we can just let things get worse. Food banks are providing 128% more emergency food parcels than they were 5 years ago. The number of homeless people in the U.K. has risen by 83% over the past decade and homeless deaths in the UK have increased by 80% since 2019. We may be comparatively better off than other places, but if we want to stop things getting worse, we need to start voting out the millionaires.
@@Brokout I agree, especially regarding the homeless (who are among the few who actually do experience true poverty in this country). But as you say, the nation keeps voting the tories in. I have a feeling things are going to get much worse before they get better.
Yes bro. Ex pat west Londoner here. Grew on A40 mile up road from the Bush. Living in Leeds united land at moment. Still going about beating Chelsea! Respect.
Growning up in SW london From the age of 17-25 ... 3 friends of mine were killed from stabbings, another 2 stabbed in the face but lived, and all had been to prison ranging from 1-7 year bids ... but to me growing up in this environment was completely normal..Everyone from a council estate lives this life.
This is what kids get told their whole school lives.. I've been jail a few times and have no qualifications but have always worked and always just lied about my record and qualifications and its never been questioned yet i know so many people that are just dole bums and genuinely believe their record and lack of qualifications will 100% prevent them ever getting a job.. and it will if you decide to share the info.
23:26. It's crazy seeing Rapman when he was still on road. He looks so young here. I'm so glad he moved on to better himself. He's now a top-rated rapper and netflix producer. Talk about reaching your goals.
8 & 10 years old !! How sad . If I was one of their mothers I’d be terrified for them !! It’s not the children , it’s the system . Education , no after school activities , low job prospects ! and not much chance of moving out of the estates . It just seems apart from their own family no one cares about these kids . Broken Britain 👎🏻👎🏻
The people in these gangs are not thinking for themselves do not appear to have their own opinions on things and just seem to be following a typical gang life style which is based on northing. To solve this the police must take control literally just arrest and keep these people in prison
I was a gang member. We were known as the Muff Diving crew. Me & my mates went pubs & bars and did our best to get as many muffs as possible. We saw every shape & size 😃
I grew up on the Ferrier Estate, I wouldn't say it was so bad in the 80's but by the 90's it really picked up. Some kid's from my school just went off and killed another over a stupid rumour, that was one of the first teenage murders in the area, one of the kid's that did it got a life setence, from then it just got worse and worse.
@@j_c2225 They were stealing cars, joy-riding them around the area, then setting them alight. The Police managed to put a stop to it by lying in wait and quickly arresting them as soon as it happened. Late at night some kid's were literally intimidating locals, and some people were afraid, muggings, burgarly and assaults were increasing. Maybe that was part of the reason they decided to demolish the estate in the end.
Just keeo your head down bro, you can get out soon. My suggestion is look for a job in a different country, that's what I did and I've been out 10 years
Trust me when I say it was GANGYY EVERYWHERE!!! Graffiti galore couldn’t even see the brickwork and next to no cameras shit was real when you stepped outside but that was the place to be… outside 😂
Lots of beef between wk and wz back in the day. Interesting interview with 706 where he talks about the beef. Wk is from Cambridge estate. m.ruclips.net/video/j4-5Ps2h1HI/видео.html
I watched this on TV years ago and always wanted to watch this again!!! Soon as I heard him say PTS I knew it is this one. The name pillin thugs stuck with me lol
@@MrGOD-mx5wb is she though , these young guys for sure became young fathers , that’s if most of them were not already . Probably in snd out of prison at some point in their life !
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well this documentary took me down memory lane. in my teens i thought this lifestyle was normal. im sure many can relate.
Bro this was what it was like !! Chills my bones tbh!!! I came out good though!! Live in America now got a good life !!!
Was born in lewisham hospital and lived in new cross ! My parents used to drop me off in the ferrier estate at my aunties house with no idea what that meant! I got dropped off at other uncles and auntie houses in lewisham and brockley too! Just never got caught up !
American gangs may seem more deadly but ….. Europe as a whole is / has a way more darker energy to it!
@@urbanroots84tt45 Because in Europe we looked a man in his eyes before we hurt them when needed unlike Americans who just spray and pray mostly.
Tell me about it, we was all like this around our area from like 13 - 20ish, horrible behaviour when you look back. Gladly none of my friends was killed from it all.
@@jaydub2546More times than not, hurting someone was not needed, though. Just mentally Ill kids being left to roam the streets.
Was only normal for scared little boys.
That interview with the Met police commander was fucking unbelievable. Just goes to show they waited for the problem to get out of hand before they took any real action - makes you think how many lives could have been saved had they took things more seriously.
It’s classic police action. A lot of times the police will refuse to take action for things like a missing person, they try to convince the person making the report they have to wait 24-48 hours, or they shrug them off as a runaway. If someone burgles your house all they do is take a report and move on. Half the time it takes them hours and hours to show up so you can just make a report. Nothing happens unless they’re lucky enough to catch a crime in the act or the crime is extreme enough.
@@bigwendigo2253 classic inaction
They want us killing eachother. Eradicated to be precise
Definitely.
"Yo Dre I Got sumin to Say "
"F,f,f,f FUCK THA POLICE!!!!"
After listening to him talking about how he came up with the gang name, it's hard to believe Danny left school with no qualifications.
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who kares? more like wan kers
man like tabanacle...
@@RayzaEFCif you said that to them
Your face would be in a worse condition than your team …
@@djstyloh...ripundah..ripst3860 you think so.
Dispatches always do good documentaries..the pain and anguish on the face of the dead boys mom at the start is heart breaking.
What a great classic documentary, till this day in 2020 should have a MBE award for catching these classic times also some famous to now members. Thanks 🙏🏽 for catching this and putting together
So cringe the wat they try rap like yanks
@@aintnoplum early days of uk hip hop it was a dark time
God bless that woman Jo who ran the youth club that was attacked by somalians. A brave soul. Hope she is doing well in life ❤️🙏🏻
Well said👍
I know the interviewer... He had a basement office near Ladbroke Grove in London. Cant remember his name this was back in the late 80s early 90s... Those were the days. He also attended a gym very near the Portobello rd market. The interviewer was always way ahead of his time. For anybody from West London who can remember the Front Line on ALL SAINTs Road... Big shout out... Brings back so many memories. I was brought up on the Lisson Grove Estate. We were know as the Edgeware Rd boys. Must admit we were tame, but had out moments. Im in my late 50s now and living in Vancouver. I will never never never forget my home boys...😎
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@@vincenzoribiero61 Ishmail... Now I remember, Thanks Vincenzo.
I was born and lived in Westbourne Park. Spent many years on All Saints Road, Portobello Market and Powis Square etc in the 80’s and 90’s. Go back occasionally, bit posher than when I lived there like 😂
This gave me second hand embarrassment, grow up
@@birdnestratfest YYeeSSS... I had a few fights... All Stars on the Harrow rd... Oh my God who is this... Please respond...
Amazing documentary... a shame it wasn’t all taken seriously back then .. copper was in denial! All about looking good and there stats. 20 years later nearly and gangs running rife through London. My heart bleeds for the mothers especially the mother of John and Jude ❤️🙏🏼
Facts!!! The officer's denial and his reluctance to implement a gang strategy nearly 20s years ago has now resulted in an epidemic of youth violence. I wonder how many senior officers had his approach because policing this problem now has become reactic. Youth violence is completely out of control.
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@@lionsheart8 it was much worse back then
WK = who cares ,illiterate c***
@@the-blue-barron2791 init these lot really think london is bad now because of drill music and beef. But back then anyone was getting touched these days it's more targeted
They tried jumpin me, so I knocked em both out🤣
Today on things that never happened
and then he woke up 🤣 absolute sausage
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You know that 😂 it's at 8:09 for anyone who finds the comment
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Then he woke up from his Stella induced coma
It's mad how mature the kids are when they talk, and I just feel like it's because kids back then grew up in real life but these days kids are inside growing up of social media.
very weird you act like growing up in dangerous environments is a better alternative
@@wackyclock lool some weird reply all I was saying was kids back then were outside more and seemed more mature. These days kids grow up of video games and social media inside. Dunno what ur on
The only mature ones are at 31 mins the rest sound like punks
tell em, even the young ones who work seem weird as fuck, no people skills, grow up outside there is a big difference
@@phosoa8965lol don’t disrespect us law abiding citizens
2003 still looked like the 90s
Glad I grew up those times, what a horrible hell hole it is now
@@duncanmurphy9762 I was born in 1995 and I miss the early 2000s like mad, much better back then.
@@WilliamWallace42 Trust me man I was born in 1989 and the early 2000s where so much better and everything made more sense
@@duncanmurphy9762 you would turn on the car radio and it would be banger after banger.. nothing but classics, now you turn on the radio it's filled with all the same generic shit, no variety of music anymore just the same old mainstream crap on repeat. There was no agendas on your tv, they weren't trying to brainwash us with all this LGBTQ and "lack of diversity" nonsense, comedy's could actually make dark jokes about anything, the price of food and energy bills were much more affordable, everything was better back then.
@@WilliamWallace42 When you were six😂
The officer's denial and his reluctance to implement a gang strategy nearly 20s years ago has now resulted in an epidemic of youth violence. I wonder how many senior officers had his approach because policing this problem now has become reactic. Youth violence is completely out of control.
@@TommyL514 STFU, about victim mentality!!! Know the facts before coming on here accusing someone you don't know about victim mentality! The police have a duty to prevent crime and disorder. There was clearly an issue of youth violence twenty years ago which senior police officers chose to ignore. The repercussions of that is we have out of control youths!!! Bring facts to the conversation before hurling petty insults to people you don't know!
@@TommyL514 he did say there wasn’t a problem so they can have some blame
Take some responsibility for your kids
@@Mr_tickets another idiot commenting who's probably detached from reality!!!
Their arse is owned by court(isanes). Offcourse they deny that😂
This poor mother who lost her son is breaking my heart. I live in Peckham all my life & remember the death & it upsets me nothing has been learnt!
And he probably out living his life now
Yeh thats really annoying ,not like hed done anything ,he walked down a road .Must admit ive driven through merseyside & seen the scrotes on their BMX`s ( in their 30s ffs ) & you wanna run em over but that makes me the bad guy :/
Yeah, if he is in prison he will have TV PlayStation, do about half or quarter off his sentence...
@@peckhamprincess7098 he's out living his life with status and younger heads living of him or rate him.smh
@@justintime5229 yeah I hear you, we worry so much about how criminals are treated that victims are forgotten, I feel sorry for kids trying to do good when everything is against them.
This is EXACTLY why youth projects, especially boxing, should be set up.
Makes me understand why my parents generation were always saying "bring back national service"! I also remember (just!) Mods and rockers.. Brighton grinding to a halt. Boys this age have always been at risk of this behaviour. At least in the countryside you can give them an axe and a pile of wooden pallets and set them chopping firewood instead of each other 😂 I can't imagine how nice the lady running the youth club is,I know I wouldn't want to do it! We do need a nationwide strategy for youth services, shutting them down wholesale was a catastrophe. But the traditional form of a hall with a stereo and a couple of pool tables isn't enough. Boys like this need real challenges so they stop inventing them for themselves.
Everything got cut remember the tories don't want kids to change. They want the decline because it doesn't affect them at all
Fight for peace is a good one
Love how when the guy doing the documentary's doin the commentary hes all prim and proper but when hes talking to the lads hes like "wag1 my g whats appening ? suttin a gwarn ya ear me" loooooool
I know the film maker from Speakers Corner in Hyde Park. He used to be a regular speaker there many years ago.
@@angusmeigh5141 love how he uses indifference to get the conversations flowing lol, he's really good at what he does
thats acc true ahahha so funny
Brilliant 👏
Read about code switching, especially with black people, its interesting.
This video had me hypnotised and transported back in time. These were my teenage years. It’s mad listening to all the lads accents. London youths sounds so so different now, not the slang, that moves with the fashion but the accents. Ahhh It was such a fucking good time to be alive, schott jackets, looney tunes spray painted on your air force trainers down shepherds bush market, trousers tucked in your socks haha UK Garage transitioning to grime 12 fosters £5, £2 for10 BnH silver and an oz hash £40. Oh ffs Take me back 😭 😂😂
oh man you took me back too...
hash 40 a z, man that was the days..
up in birmingham now youre lucky if you can get a Q for 55 on hash, bud is the same.
but money had more value then.
i do miss camberwell, lewisham and brixton but the whole energy changed about 15yrs ago..
lol yeah bro they were the days mate
Wembley market for me
Lol for real.
Night out 2002 - ten pack of mayfairs £2.00 - £5 for 6 cans or stella - £5 to get into the club and £1.50 pints all night.
I grew up in south East London around all the gang stuff … glad my parents were able to keep me away from it! My son is one year old and I got know doubt my son will also not be involved !
Prayers sent to the young lads who have never been given the guidance I had!
We're is it
A lot of it is south East London
God bless you guys 😊💚Jesus is the way dear brothers 💪🙏🙂
U better knock on wood fool. Ain’t no one’s impressed from gáng life
Nicks curtains are next level!
Really good documentary, my heart goes out to the family. Nuff love and respect.
enough . or you could have said plenty of love and respect you are half the problem fam
@@davidsiemens6748 why you disrespecting mandem?
@@theodoremason6344 mandem ? They rewrite the Oxford English dictionary blad . Na disrepect fam
@@davidsiemens6748 I thought mandem was what they said. I heard it on Topboy.
I remember watching this on TV in 2003/2004. I was in year 10, top of the class expected to go on and study at Oxford/Cambridge. I joined the gang life, got out quickly, went to a shit uni got a 2:2, now working for a bank. Driving an 07 plate Merc😂😂😂
Hey shit happens that's life
Which uni. Still a university education
Friendly reminder that if you need to hang around in a gang to feel hard, you aren't.
But you already know they're cowards on their own.
You obviously haven’t watched the film. The kid who had to leave wasnt in a gang. Kids get caught up and done for not joining gangs. They get done at school and on their estate.
also the Ferrier estate which was a no go around 2008.There were blocks where only a couple residents were living in and the conditions were terrible and the gangs were active but the place doesn't exist anymore. They knocked it down for private homes and only around 20% social housing.
Where did the displaced people end up? Were they relocated?
You can tell that Police Commissioner had never been to an estate.
If you watch any old documentaries about deprived areas of Britain in the 1950s, 60s and 70s, the people are always quite well dressed, dignified, articulate and trying their best to provide for their families. But in the last 40 years gradually everyone has become scruffier and scruffier and the low standards of education mean that they can barely speak proper English. It's appalling what has happened over the decades.
wonder how many of these kids have watched this years later and thought wtf was i doing ffs lol
Trust me😂😂
How upset his dad looked broke my heart ❤️ and his mum ❤
Love the way the interviewer changes up his accent and way of speak when narrating and when chatting normally and freely.
A lot of people watching won't be able to relate
Fck me you're so in tune with the universe for noticing that. What an absolutely pathetic way to give yourself a pat on the back.
@@haramsbae1507 well said.
🤣you got mugged right off there la.
@@Bigtimecharlie1349 not really. He dont know me. It's youtube 🤷🏿♂️
@@G-Man78 so why say daft shit like that
I grew up on the Cambridge Estate in Kingston, my mum moved us away when someone got stabbed to death a few ft from me whilst I was playing with friends.
I been looking for this documentary for ages, nice one for the upload
What year was this from
@@troyknight8047 not sure mate early noughties I think, I'd say 03-04
2003
@@troyknight8047 2003 g
@@Sabotaz80xx how do you know
32:28 This young kid thinking about how his family could suffer having to bury him....man for a kid of that age to be so aware of this is so poignant and terrifying
People back then were more mature for their age, they were inside less. These days kids just grow up inside of social media and don't experiences real life thinggs
@@disposablevape2356 😂😂😂 because you’ve corrupted the world they’ve grown up in
@@harveersethi7786 good point lol
@@jeffpesos420 lmao
Its so funny when the reporter starts talking to danny in the roadman accent jsut to get him to talk then he speaks back to the camera with this posh accent lol
😂😂😂😂😂
I’d love to find another doc from around a similar time that was mainly just focussed on wk who kares. I remember watching it around early 2000’s
I can show you a few
@@Gvnglvnd_pharaoh would also be interested in seeing some
@@matty832 type in (TOWER BOCK DREAMS) that’s a Docu series for about 2003
Also gang life uk,2003 black on black crime,Manchester most dangerous gang.
Rapman looks like he changed his life
yikes 27:48... The Met's bizarre strategy of trying to downplay the issue undoubtedly contributed to significant bloodshed in the years that followed.
31:40 the 2 smartest people in this whole thing
Yes
6:22 - Rest in peace Charlie Lockyer, who passed away Nov 2022. A world renowned skater with a talented past and bright future, leaving gang life behind after filming.
This is a snapshot from the entity of a man who lived a few lives, having experienced a lot by his early 20s, and moving on to coach youngsters in recent years. His family are taking donations via gofundme.
Rip Charlie he was my best friend...see you on the other side brother
rip Jamie and Noah they where my best mates saw them get stabbed in front of me i will never forget you guys
Charlie was a top man, RIP bro x
RIP Shie
Fuck him thought he was a gm and was part of a gang that murdered people
I am watching this for the very first time and guess who's album came out on this day? Yep you guest it, 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’ released 6th February 2003. The Algorithm Gods are working overtime!!!!
That’s crazyyyy you spotted that
18 years ago. That’s quite some time.
Playing Get Rich or Die Tryin’ top to bottom while rolling around the Surrey suburbs ye kno 😫😂
Was this in your recommended too 🤣
What’s the time stamp bro? I don’t remember seeing Surrey in this wtf
Cringe
That ain’t suburbs
@@feelo2059 5:54 ....is it not
"I was shoved in a dustbin by that gang"
The subtitles: best we can do is "I was shoved in a dustbin Barnet game"
I met a few guys in gangs in 2001 when I visited England, it was interesting to see the differences and similarities to our gangs in the US. The gangs in England tend to attack in bigger groups, with knives and machetes. In the US its usually a smaller group of heavily armed guys hosing down the large group. US gang members have a higher danger of being killed by police, in England they arent worried about the police because as you see they dont use the same tactics against them. I dont know how much has changed in those 20 plus years, but what I saw was an equally dangerous gang but different tactics.
Where u from in US
Depends, there's always been police here with guns, they're just in specific departments. But I mean back then... yeah they didn't seem so serious. But generally, when a gun is reported, the gun squad comes, if it's knives they don't.
@@Laura-sg6ss the gun squad lol. Its fucking armed police laura
I'd say they've gotten worse and probably more similar to the american gangs these days. These days everyones got a big fat knife down there trousers and a lot of them have guns too, social media has made tensions worse and instead of vandalising bus stops and stealing phones they're all selling hard drugs and doing armed robberies on other drug dealers.
On the plus side you're a lot less likely to get randomly attacked as long as you don't look like one of them.
Still I grew up in a relatively not too bad part of central london and I used to hear at least one or two shootings happen on my street every year which I don't think would've been the case 20 years ago.
@@stevenarmstrong3799 near Detroit Michigan
I had the misfortune to live in Northampton's Red Light District for a while. It was insane. From teenage Prossies to gun carrying crack dealers it was mental. I thought Northampton would be a small, quiet town. It was a dodgy shit hole. Sorry Northampton, I really hope you've changed in the 20 years since I was last there.
its a mixed bag, the seeling of drugs is in city center right infront of police, and drug addicts get high every where, pack of teenagers roaming the parks, its a small town but for a short time i was there, seen few incidents , seems like whole england is infected, the "regular" youth still go in city center to get drunk out of their minds and the district is ridddled with nitrous capsules...but it becomes like that in easter europe too, not getting better mate, its the end times
Nah it's still a shithole
Lol mad
It's changed, for the worse
When I started reading Jerusalem by Alan Moore I became interested in visiting Northampton.
I eventually got around to it. Disappointment is an understatement. Absolute shit hole.
But a lot of Britain is like that these days. It's a real shame.
Fascinating documentary. Thank you for uploading it.
This documentary is from 2003. Channel 4 Dispatches documentary.
great documentary! the first estate with the low rise flats talking bout PTS is the watersedge estate in Ewell, on the outskirts of south London. I remember when at 7pm there would be a huge pack od dogs, you see the people let them out and they ran riot lol. Anyways since this documentary the estate got much worse. Looks can be deceiving it does look all good but theres alot of crack dealers street drinkers and the current gang WEC (Watersedge crew) i must admit there is nothing to do there. There is one shop and in the lst couple of years they built a skatepark so at least the coucil is trying to help the youth problem. But that estate is nowhere near as bad as some of the other estates near by. Which is a good thing. We need peace unity not violence.
I can really picture all these guys sitting around listening to korrupt FM
I grew up on the ferrier in the 80’s/90’s and everyone was so poor we all stuck together. If there was ever any rivalry with other gangs, thamesmead, woolwich, barnfield estates the rave scene brought us all together. I remember going back in these times (when this was filmed) to visit my family and it was like a Somali war zone.
When did the Somali start making a gang
@@Search889 i have no idea. I moved from SE3 in 92.
When was this filmed? I’d say about then.
@@marctomkins I get what you mean, was SE1 myself in the 90's and got fronted by a gang from another code looking for somebody i knew, but wouldn't call a friend, over a stolen bike. I was literally about to get attacked by about 12 lads as one took a swing at me when one of them recognised me from the 'rave scene' (think I'd bought a shed load of pills off him for me and all my mates) and he called his boys off saying he's (me) is safe. So yeah thank fuck for the rave scene, well in those days anyway 👍
This was filmed in 2003, and Somali’s have been coming to the UK since at least the 80s, but a lot more came after 1997 when Toby Blair was in power, and from then on that’s when Woolwich boys were mostly Somali. They’ve gotten more diverse again nowadays
@@Sabotaz80xx sounds spot on with the dates. Thanks.
@31:42 those poor kids having to live in this environment, breaks my heart. I hope they made it out and are doing better now.
So happy to see that Rapman changed his life around 🙏🏾
And when you try to defend yourself, you're arrested for it. Pathetic laws in UK.
Our tv wasn't always garbage then lol. Thanks for the upload.
Ferriers was a problem 80s/90s 😳
If u know u know 🤘
Seems a lot of large London estates have poverty problems which isn’t helping the situation at all ‼️
It’s gone now
OH MY DAYS I have been looking for this for about 15 years
Really, but why?
@@AnteNDH1 Part of it was filmed around where I grew up and featured people I knew. I came across the documentary in the video archive room at Richmond College, along with another one that also featured a local area and a different gang, but since then I could never remember them clearly and couldn't find them to rewatch
@@Bigohno0 Interesting, thanks for explanation
@@AnteNDH1 👍
This is a really good documentary, reminds me of the London I grew up in, interesting to see how it compares to nowadays
Scary days then
It’s the London overspill most theses kids was born in London and moved out or their family moved out before they was born.
So cringe crap clothes and pretending to be yanks
Pretty sure this was like 2004. Not exactly that long far back
Defo was worse back then these new kids will never know they'd cry walking past a group of guys back then
It would be interesting to see how these guys look like today.
Rotten and underground probably after drinking bleach by accident
some make it out and live normal lives - you'd never know. others cant get out and either die fighting, die in prison, or die on drugs eventually. everyone involved pays a price for certain.
@@laory1808 one hundred percent bro
I am from the same peer group as 24:00 . I can't ID them all but a few. I am now in my mid-30s and can tell you I live a staggeringly different life. My children are oblivious to the traumas I went through, and any old acquaintances from those times. I learned many great lessons from being in the thick of it and have become sharply aware of how to make things right for my kids. I am in a stable marriage and if you were to pass me on the street you would never know that I would sit on a brick wall all hours of the day with many of those people scheming and planning degeneracy and delinquent acts. There is a mother in this show, the mother of Jude. I remember when that happened, and as a parent now, I can't believe she never pulled her son out of that cesspit St Josephs's academy. Violence in school is a red flag and should never be tolerated.
They're all in witness protection
All these years later it'd be interesting to see where these lads are at now that they're adults
The kid who’s speaking in Derby who likes about 12. Ended up running a county lines operation with the Albos
@@lukebuckley7956 sounds like he moved up in the world 😂
Grew up with people in the Cambridge estate which is where the gang wk comes from and it’s rough, there should be more documentary’s and research on the place because there’s a lot of stuff that hapoened
What kind of things?
That poor woman who had lost her son, and nobody does anything. The police are in denial.
no one goes to the police, everyone hates the police, everything they've tried to do people said its racist and they had to stop
Poor boy Daryl I see all his cups and medals, probably got a bright future and hang members dont like anyone who has a chance of living a decent clean life!
I grew up in early 2000s in Birmingham and it was just like this
Great documentary thanks - I grew up in this London.
if my kid gets beat up at school on a regular basis and nothing's done about it HE'S SIMPLY NOT GOING TO SCHOOL. I'm sorry but my kids not losing his life for education, from when a pupil in school is a threat to your life and authoritative figures like TEACHERS set an example of injustice there's no way i'd let my kid leave that door. As a black man i understand financially it may not be easy to keep your kid at home, but i for sure know its even harder to mourn them for the rest of your life just wishing you didn't continuously send them into deaths hands. My families been in this situation and the police arrested no one, i just didnt go to school till my life wasn't in danger and live to tell the tale.
Should do a follow up film just for clarity on how you end your life if you in a gang 💚✌️
The mistrust of Police and unwillingness to talk to them is a direct result of the war on drugs. Even just using that term forces people to pick a side.
All the governments plan, make fortunes sending people to prison and the kids killing eachother makes the job easier moving them out and gentrifying places…rich get richer
Imagine being one of them and looking back after all these years when there in there 30s thinking how bad they look.
When they’re in their*.
@@jamie3499 such a big deal init
@@northernyorkshirefarmer2368 yes init
@@jamie3499 you mad with me slang
Bad or Sad fcuking winners.
Lol spoke about stonebridge for 5 secs then dipped. He rlly wasn’t tryna risk his life going dem sides 😂😂
Stonebrizzy
Lol man literally drove along the North Circ for a bit then changed his mind. That estate was practically lawless them times.
The tape jumped. He said he was from the Stonebridge estate. Ishmahil Blagrove (the narrator) grew up in a flat on that NW10 estate, raised by his Jamaican parents. Back in the days when the blocks were there.
Why are the musical group *Blazin' Squad* not mentioned? They were the toughest gang in London when this was filmed.
💯💪🧐
No it was so solid crew
@@AL-PAKA its a joke
@@AL-PAKA haha first solid poo 💩
No it was westlife
@@leehenderson1831 E17 the real Dons with Brian Harvey and dem!
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea !"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
ahhahahh why you quoting fawlty towers
@@sitetobehold377 ARE YOU THE COMMENT POLICE YOU FUCKWIT ?
Whats mad is these man are all in their late 30s or 40s now lol
This was 2003 so they’ll probably be in their late 30s
Hopefully they are all dead.
WHEN HE TALKS HE SOUNDS LIKE A TYPICAL UK CHAV... BUT WHEN HE RAPS HE PUTS ON AMERICAN ACCENT... LOL
He used to be a regular speaker at Speakers Corner in Hyde Park many years ago.
I noticed that wot a bellend
@@angusmeigh5141 what’s his name?
@@s2daworld184 Ishmahil Blagrove is the presenter
We are currently the 6th richest nation on earth. Ask why there were and still are these levels of poverty and inequality when the rich have never been richer. There’s money… but why aren’t we seeing it?
It’s by design, to quote Rishi Sunak:
“I managed to start changing the funding formulas, to make sure areas like this (Tunbridge Wells) are getting the funding they deserve because we inherited a bunch of formulas from Labour that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas and that needed to be undone. I started the work of undoing that.”
Stop voting for the millionaires party, get real people into positions of power so we can reduce the gap between rich and poor and end inequality.
They only care about their tax cuts because none of this affects them. GET THE TORIES OUT
The poverty isn't that bad. Could be better, but the poorest people here are still better off than most of the world's population.
@@nothanksggl6599 You’re absolutely right, compared to Lagos this is a paradise, but that doesn’t mean we can just let things get worse.
Food banks are providing 128% more emergency food parcels than they were 5 years ago.
The number of homeless people in the U.K. has risen by 83% over the past decade and homeless deaths in the UK have increased by 80% since 2019.
We may be comparatively better off than other places, but if we want to stop things getting worse, we need to start voting out the millionaires.
@@Brokout I agree, especially regarding the homeless (who are among the few who actually do experience true poverty in this country). But as you say, the nation keeps voting the tories in. I have a feeling things are going to get much worse before they get better.
PTS became PTSD
I remember all that fake jewellery in the back of the source magazine haha.. Bell ends
Anyone else though the thumbnail was callfrezzy lol
I thought it was Ralf Little
Yessss
Nah what looks nothing like😂
Looks like calfrezzy on crack lol
Freeeezyy
Yes bro. Ex pat west Londoner here. Grew on A40 mile up road from the Bush. Living in Leeds united land at moment. Still going about beating Chelsea! Respect.
Hey Bro I'm a south London ex pat living in Leeds and don't regret leaving it's mad down there
@@badbassnine good man. Nor me. Love Leeds. Good people are good people. Lived alot of places, even tottenham!!😆 nice one mate. Respect. What part?
restecpa - west side is d'best
Little did they know it was just the beginning 😳💔🙌
RIP Shie aka Charlie.
Big up WK.
I never knew this documentary existed. This takes me back to 99/2000
Growning up in SW london From the age of 17-25 ... 3 friends of mine were killed from stabbings, another 2 stabbed in the face but lived, and all had been to prison ranging from 1-7 year bids ... but to me growing up in this environment was completely normal..Everyone from a council estate lives this life.
Which area did you grow up?
@@LondonConfidential he said southwest
@@jasonSTILL5 Specifically.
@@LondonConfidential Probs Brixton
@@LondonConfidential yea g you good. It’s pissing me off now bro who are you ffs 😂 we went same school what you worried about
How wrong was that met commander about gangs not being a problem
Lool man must be living in some next rich area where there are no gangs
He said 'don't get me wrong it is a problem' but they had always dealt with gangs like mods and rockers etc and it was not as violent as America.
“We haven’t got qualifications, what are we going to do?” How about get a fucking job like everyone else
🤣
They can't innit, they are to hard to do a day's work , plenty of dole bums in London
Or go to college and get some qualifications.
Shutup karen
This is what kids get told their whole school lives.. I've been jail a few times and have no qualifications but have always worked and always just lied about my record and qualifications and its never been questioned yet i know so many people that are just dole bums and genuinely believe their record and lack of qualifications will 100% prevent them ever getting a job.. and it will if you decide to share the info.
23:26. It's crazy seeing Rapman when he was still on road. He looks so young here. I'm so glad he moved on to better himself. He's now a top-rated rapper and netflix producer. Talk about reaching your goals.
Typical officer dibble with his head in the sand.
@Out And About Jersey C.I he don’t care ! It makes his cushty job and life difficult ! so they ignore it , even when young guys and kids get killed ❗️
8 & 10 years old !! How sad . If I was one of their mothers I’d be terrified for them !! It’s not the children , it’s the system . Education , no after school activities , low job prospects ! and not much chance of moving out of the estates . It just seems apart from their own family no one cares about these kids . Broken Britain 👎🏻👎🏻
very sad... lost children and wasted youths.
The people in these gangs are not thinking for themselves do not appear to have their own opinions on things and just seem to be following a typical gang life style which is based on northing. To solve this the police must take control literally just arrest and keep these people in prison
Nah,
Put them to work around tough men
I was a gang member. We were known as the Muff Diving crew. Me & my mates went pubs & bars and did our best to get as many muffs as possible. We saw every shape & size 😃
White boy jokes are unfunny
Mate, I’ve heard that gang can get quite bloody. Glad you’re still a soldier.
@@tom186i
Lol. We could handle the blood, it was the smell that was hard to deal with.
“Cus my mum that’s Beef” classic
22:45 chunkz is that you 😂
"I was sitting in a police station and thought "WK" - Who Cares!
Lol.....
Rip Tabba🕊
@@mobcity9233 Damn how he die?
@@lovesosa5359 dropped dead in a heart attack wen his mum died don’t take the piss about him how he was he didn’t deserve the background he had
@@mobcity9233 Damn rip dude
@@mobcity9233 What are you even talking about? He is still alive and still rapping. Search for Tabanacle on Instagram.
Birmingham say no more,same faces you get me
Devil makes work of idle hands
New Malden 😂 is this like the Ali G pilot ?
I grew up on the Ferrier Estate, I wouldn't say it was so bad in the 80's but by the 90's it really picked up. Some kid's from my school just went off and killed another over a stupid rumour, that was one of the first teenage murders in the area, one of the kid's that did it got a life setence, from then it just got worse and worse.
And then by the 00s when this was filmed it was even worse
@@j_c2225 They were stealing cars, joy-riding them around the area, then setting them alight. The Police managed to put a stop to it by lying in wait and quickly arresting them as soon as it happened. Late at night some kid's were literally intimidating locals, and some people were afraid, muggings, burgarly and assaults were increasing. Maybe that was part of the reason they decided to demolish the estate in the end.
It wasn't bad in the 80s and 90s I lived there too, the boy that got killed I went to school with it's so sad
What a little gem on my recommendations
really wanna see the boys now from 31:37-33:10 this scene really hits me hard being 17 and living in se
Just keeo your head down bro, you can get out soon. My suggestion is look for a job in a different country, that's what I did and I've been out 10 years
Trust me when I say it was GANGYY EVERYWHERE!!! Graffiti galore couldn’t even see the brickwork and next to no cameras shit was real when you stepped outside but that was the place to be… outside 😂
0:22-3:22 Stoneleigh, Surrey. 5:56-12:59 I think it is actually Cambridge Road Estate, Norbiton.
It is I'm from there never knew there was a gang called wk
Lots of beef between wk and wz back in the day. Interesting interview with 706 where he talks about the beef. Wk is from Cambridge estate.
m.ruclips.net/video/j4-5Ps2h1HI/видео.html
@@dr.rodrigues2101 where you been then. It then Wen from WK TO I.C.E AKA INVISIBLE CAMBRIDGE ESTATE UP INTILL 2010
I'm just watching funny cats and RUclips recommended me this
I watched this on TV years ago and always wanted to watch this again!!! Soon as I heard him say PTS I knew it is this one. The name pillin thugs stuck with me lol
Exactly the same as me
@@shibbymiyah6614 i was still in school but was going thru my ecstasy phase so i liked the name pilling thugs lol
Pilling Thugs....and what 🤣
Love it 👍🏻
@@jademelrose8765 prime timers pilling thugz. Wimbledon raynes park rose hill Sutton Morden back in the days 👌
That police commander had completely the wrong attitude and looking at the problem through rose tinted specs.....
Love to know where these man are at now in their lives. Should do an update.
@@sabrinawadey1531 you talking shit
If anything it was the 1970s that was ‘the start of decline’ that you are talking about, this didn’t start in the 2000s at all
@@protheory your right yano haha madness, it is tabanacle
I think theres few rappers in here
@@MrGOD-mx5wb is she though , these young guys for sure became young fathers , that’s if most of them were not already . Probably in snd out of prison at some point in their life !