Jonah Nilsson: How to Harmonize a Dirty Loops song - Part1
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Ever wondered how the harmonies on the Dirty Loops songs are created? Jonah Nilsson from Dirty Loops breaks down his approach to harmony and arrangement in this 2 part video series!
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His speaking voice is so different from his singing voice. I imagined he’d sound like Michael Jackson, but him having a deeper voice speaks volumes of how monstrous his range is.
I agree lol
Well said, Albaal 👍☺️🔥
Believe: Michael Jackson's real Voice is thick too.
"How to Harmonize a Dirty Loops song" in two steps:
1. Become a freaking musical genius.
2. There is no step two.
Basically.
Reharmonization skills don't require genius level abilities and as much as I like Dirty Loops, they are not musical geniuses by any stretch of the imagination. Genius is a relative descriptive term that has to be placed "in the pool" to have merit. Sorry, but JS Bach, LV Beethoven, Fred Chopin, Liszt, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Paul Chambers, Ray Brown, Sonny Rollins, Oscar Peterson, NHOP, Herbie Hancock, McCoy Tyner, Wayne Shorter, Bud Powell, Keith Jarrett, Chick Corea, Cory Henry, and MANY others that are WAY more proficient than Dirty Loops are already swimming around in that "public pool" so the bar is EXTREMELY high. To effectively reharmonize, one simply needs to know enough music theory, whether in a auditory or intellectual sense, to be able to find other chords that share some of the same notes as the chord that he/she is reharmonizing. I suggest becoming adept in BOTH ways. So lesson #1: Take a triad and find as many other triads as you can that share some of the notes of the original triad. For example, C Major triad has the notes C-E-G. A minor ALSO has the notes C and E, but it has an A instead of a G. Because you have 2 out of 3 of the same notes, A minor is a worthy substitution for C Major if you're reharmonizing a song. Do this extensively with triads and then move to UNEXTENDED and UNALTERED seventh chords. After that, move to EXTENDED seventh chords. After that, move to ALTERED EXTENDED seventh chords. Now YOU can reharmonize TOO and you're STILL probably NOT a genius EITHER. But other people like YOU will think that you are. HaHa!!!
@@TiteTrax Right. In other words, reharmonization skills are just like any other skills. When performed by a genius, the results can be genius. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Jonah. How old is he? and he's already made a noticeable contribution to modern pop music. I'm already hearing imitators. Don't be an old fuddy-duddy - it's not a good look.
@@TiteTrax bro you are almost right
But to me Cory ain't never going to be in the pool , Cory is very good but nothing compared to the Titans you mentioned...does guy's are really big for Cory or Jonah, Jacob is going to be there because he has a crazy IQ in theory and good skill.
So I don't wanna be cruel to cory or Jonah and many more who have ,let's call it the same level , which is honestly pretty good, but I wouldn't put them in the pool. I think they're a step below from the pool and even inside the pool there are some who are a bit stronger in talent and skill....i think.
Any way Cory is good , jonah is good too so I'm just gonna learn from them all.
Step 3... Profit!!!
:-)
I agree. “Here’s two notes and then I add incredibly complex chords under those notes”. Just do it!!
All right, here's my take on the 16 bars from 1:58:
1. [ Aadd9 - Am/E ]
- [ FM9#11 - AM7b5/C# ]
- [ Dm13(b9) - D#dim7 ]
- [ E7b9sus4 - Bb9#11(=CM7#5 | Bb7) ]
2. [ Aadd9 - Am9/E ]
- [ BbM9/F - AM9b5/C# ]
- [ FM13/C - (Am/E - E7/D - Am/C) ]
- [ Bm11b5 - Eadd9 ]
3. [ A - F# | A ]
- [ D#7#11 - E | C6 ] (probably wrong)
- [ Dm - D#dim7 ]
- [ BbmM7/F - F#dim7 ]
- [ GmM7b5 - Ab9#11 ]
- [ Dm/A - Dm9/F ]
- E7sus4
I tried to preserve most of the passing tones he hits, resulting in some weird notation. Also, no idea what's happening on the first two bars of the 3rd section, so if there's anyone trained in classical theory who could help me make sense of that, that'd be great.
I love Jonah´s blend of classic and jazz writing. He´s absolutely amazing.
Check out Russell Ferrante of the Yellowjackets. I'm pretty sure that Jonah has already! HaHa!!!
@@TiteTrax YJ was my go to band during the 90s 😀
@@TiteTrax Russ is great. I first heard the debut "Yellowjackets" LP in 1981 at Berklee after my roommate had just bought it.
Neither of us knew anything about them, because they were so new. I later bought a copy (which is still one of my "desert island" albums--it's
so well-crafted, and Robben Ford's solos are absolutely brilliant) and also the "Mirage a Trois" album. I still have them. Shortly after, CDs became
available, so the first CD I ever bought was "Mirage a Trois" (the first one wasn't available at the time). I got a chance to meet Russ at the Blue Note.
He's a really nice, humble cat.
@@tomgiles1484 I first heard the YJs before they were the YJs, in 78 at the Baked Potato. They were the Robben Ford band. They kicked ass! They kinda went downhill from there, IMHO.
@@standarddisclaimer I lived in L.A. for almost 12 years and never got a chance to go to the Baked Potato. I wish I had. The place is legendary.
I bought Robben's first solo album, "Inside Story", after hearing the YJs first two albums. I thought that, with the exception of "Inside Story," "Magic Sam" and
"Tee Time for Eric," which are my favorites, the album was decent, but didn't have the magic that the first YJs albums had. I disagree that they went
"downhill," but their sound did change drastically when Bob Mintzer joined, and the band became more of a straight ahead, bebop jazz band.
I miss the old YJs' jazz funk fusion sound, and Robben was an essential part of that sound. Luckily, I got a chance to see the original YJ lineup (including Ricky Lawson)
at The Ford in L.A. in 2002. It was a great concert, though the sound mix was a bit muddy, I felt bad for Robben, though, as he was a bit rusty on
"Monmouth College Fight Song" and kept screwing up the parts of the melody, especially the melody's opening two triplets.
I just found out that Robben did two solos on Kiss' "Creatures of the Night" album. Did you know that? Pretty wild.
It is just me or the video is missing the part when he explain the harmony and how did he worked it? -.-
No, I also kind of dont see the part of ”how to”... I see a lot of Korg products though...
"As long as it fits, it's all good". There he explained it lmao
I didn't expect to dislike this video either, but I literally didn't learn a single thing. "What I came up with is…" and then he doesn't explain what he is playing, let alone HOW he came up with it
@@SteffenThole What else do you expect him to tell you? There's a concept, he explains it, he demonstrates it, you take that information and do what you want. That IS the "how", and that IS the explanation. Go get a teacher at your local music store if you'd like to be spoon fed.
@@carsondrum There's a comment by Blue String Music under this video, starting with "Thanks for nothing 🙄" under which I explain myself a bit more.
The music teachers I know personally wouldn't be spoon-feeding me either, but rather give me guidance on how to analyze this myself and helping me if I were to get stuck. But I know that not everyone is fortunate enough to know people like this, and that is where I wish this video would be coming into play. And imo "Play what sounds good" doesn't suffice in that case.
Why do I keep hearing classical/romantic composers here? Fauré, Chopin, Rachmaninov….so beautiful, so lush. And isn’t it fantastic to be hearing those keyboard parts on their own, just for once? And then to see how they fit into that final masterpiece xxx
all music is like cooking ... you need the milk and flour to make the bechamel
you need the bechamel to make a dozen sauces
you can make a hundred dishes from each sauce
of course when you hear a chef like jonah there will be legacy in his work ... not just a potato but a well prepared and perfectly seasoned potato cooked using the history of culinary art
and so i feel all the music he has studied and all the influences of his co conspirators is right there in his waking self
@@EvilSean62 yes ☺️
Jonah is a classical pianist by training and education (university) who stepped into jazz and then fused the two -- genious!❤
Jonah: "Yeah so I sat at my piano and sorta played this"
Me, thinking he's gonna do something simple, ready at my Piano to follow along: "..................oh"
Dude's a legend
He’s one of the best singers on the planet! Phenomenal and jaw dropping range plus an amazing piano player as well
Oh, my gosh, this is my first time hearing Jonah speak. My heart is racing - his voice is just so dang beautiful, hahaha XD
Complex Bill Evansesque harmonisation here! That's beautiful
Jonah is a genius with awesome intertwining melodies, timing, harmony his style, yes!
So nice of him to explain this… in my grandmothers living room.
It's his living room now, bucko
I would watch him do this to every single one of his songs. Amazing
One of the best arrangers I know.
He’s just so perfect. His talent is incredible. He literally is a musical genius 😍
"Just keep into acocount the "Next to you" part and * insert musical magic *"
I bought the first album in 2014 after being blown away by the genius of the cover tracks ‘Baby’, ‘Just Dance’, Circus and the rest… I enjoyed the first album but I am yet to hear the album ‘Phoenix’.. I’m hoping this track ‘Next to you’ is on it, because that short section at the beginning of this video is every bit as good as expected, truly stunning!.. and the current material with Cory Wong is just as exceptional 👊💥
Phoenix is the killer set.
This is next level genius!
I play bass but I haven't in awhile. You guys have inspired me to try my hand at it again. It's been a very long time since I've been so moved by music that I cry. The potpourri of sounds and rhythms. I'm am so in awe, speechless. Jonah your vocal ability has me mesmerized. Your range... insane. Marry me!! 🥰 Lol! Love, love y'all. So, so good! Amazing! Beautiful! Spectacular!...❤️❤️❤️
Excited to see this band getting more coverage. I literally listen to them every morning to get pumped up!
That's beautiful unto itself.
need this but with 30 minutes more of thorough commentary!
That was easy! Now we know. Thanks!😂
You guys are massive !!! So good to know that great musicians are growing up everywhere ! Keep the groove alive ! Best regards from Brazil !
Colouration of chords and harmonics sounds like he has alot of jazzstudies in his backpack, great part of the song!
Lol goes from a simple I-IV melody to a complex classical piece in one step. Awesome.
So I start with two notes, and then... come again?
jajaja 🤤
And then study like a maniac for 20 years. Oh, and develop perfect pitch while you're at it.
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"as long as it fits"
OH that's beautiful! I'd like to hear the song "naked" / acoustic.
I love when he just says “Yes and so on” He is a genius, my three cents worth. 💕
feeling next to you as you play those circles so nice ~
Thank you for taking time for this!
Brilliant musicians
That makes sense and it underlines your genius!
Now that that is cleared up....seriously...please Jonah what is the chord progression so we pianists can learn it?
I LOVE YOOOUUUUUUUUU
SOOOOO MUCHHHHH
SO UNDERRATED
SO HUMBLE
Truly fan right here u deserve much more 😩😩😩
Hey Korg, how about getting him to discuss the patches he likes to use, and his live setup.
He did. At NAMM and on tour
So the Quintessence of this Tutorial is: As long as it fits, it's all good!
Maaaan... I will take that into consideration when i write my next Song...
1:48 - "Not very different from this one.." like telling dear Korg send me some cool ass piano thingies.
Hello. Vu à la télé pour le concert symphonique de Monsieur Quincy Jones. Un régal bravo !
Is insane the form how you imagine the progression of music. Sorry to mu english is not so good. I love the yours music in special HIT ME. 🤙👏👏👏👏👏
Jonah: This is how I arranged this genius playing and singing. Take notes.
**play and sings like a genius, leaving me with no sense of accomplishment**
an epic classical trained musician like Jonah can harmonize whatever he wants.
Reminiscent of the end part of Third Wind from Pat Metheny's 1987 album, "Still Life (Talking)" Nice stuff!
Yeah, nice little touches of Lyle Mays in a lot of Jonah's compositions.
@@TiteTrax uh, yes, AND Pat.
Pat too, of course. But remember Lyle was Pat's keyboardist on most of his popular stuff.
Why is it that Scandinavian men have such amazing voices?
And looks 😂
Step1: sing a two-notes simple melody. Step2: music DONE.
I was sure he was gunna say: "As long as it fits, it sits"
That's probably the rule
Så bra
You're a genius!
I feel Bach! ♥️
Before this video: uuuuh he‘s quoting Bach or maybe quoting a romantic composer quoting Bach...nice!
After this video: ... nevermind 🙃 he‘s genuinely genius.
This is not for beginners. I think that should be mentioned in the title or description
The part thats not explained properly would be too long for this Korg video.
but basically you require some Jazz theory knowledge & techniques to be able to understand how he came up with those chords.
techniques like, tritone subs, voice leadings, Tension & Release, etc...
I transcribed the chords he used in this video :
ruclips.net/video/vpBZ6ifxgaE/видео.html
Genius
Jonah Jenius!!!!
Thank you I love your keyboards, can you normalize the voice audio in future videos? :)
The flow of those chords and melodies are so mesmerizing. Sounds like descending to hell and rising back to heaven.
I "basically" came up with this.. 🤯
❤❤❤❤
2:16 😭
holy cow !!!
Genius!
Each time I listen to Jonah, it's like Lyle Mays was still alive.
Yes, indeed! MUCH Lyle AND Russell Ferrante in that yummy stuff he's playing.
@@TiteTrax Really? Please elaborate.
@@standarddisclaimer Drop dead, FAKE Juu. You've used up ALL of your FREE music instruction from me. You're disrespectful to well-respected bands(the Yellowjackets) and I've no time for idiots who have no tactical concept of swing/groove but STILL believe that they have a right to be slanderous to Grammy award-winning groups that have actually contributed to the scene. Don't follow me around making snide comments or I'll expose you on Facebook as the Imposter Juu that you and your dude-looking wife ARE. Trust me, you don't want the attention I'LL bring, you Satanic devil.
haha oh my goodness WHAT is going on here
Piece of a cake :-)
Aha, this is so useful. So let me get this straight, step one is to listen to the two notes in the backing vocals and then step two is to simply write that freaky melody? Easy peasy.
Great, thumb up!
He is the chuck Norris of music...
....no other opinion other than his actually matters.
Ask Jacob?
I like how shiny the Korg logo is
pretty sure it's illuminated by a power source
The fuck am I even watching? my brain can't comprehend this.
His Korg keyboard has a “Dirty Loops Awesome” button hidden somewhere.
🤯
Is there a longer video somewhere?
How annoying do you want us to edit this?
Korg: Yes!
1:58 is the progression can somebody identify for me????????
could better be deciphered using standard notation, but Amaj9 Am9/E Fmaj7#11 Amaj7#11/C# Dm13 F#dim7 Esus Bb9#11 A Am9 Bb/A C#m11 Amaj9/C# Cmaj69 Hdim11 Esus A F# F/F# E/C Bbmaj7#11/D D#dim7 F#maj7/F Dbaug7/F# Gm7#11 Gm7#11/Ab Dm/A Esus
.
@@adomaskuzinas2137 yes thank you definitely borrowing some of these for future solos 😂😂😂😂
@@adomaskuzinas2137 Hdim11? (right after Cmaj69 and before Esus)
@@tinylittlenukes it's B
Me: I LIKE YOUR FUNNY WORDS MAGIC MAN
Part 2: ruclips.net/video/ieZm6on2jDQ/видео.html
gracias!
I keep on seeing Harry conick jnr
Honestly, I clicked on the video thinking I was going to learn something....... 🥺
How to harmonize a Dirty Loops song:
1. Just do it
2.
Where is jacob Collier ?
It sounds like something Tigran Hamasyan would write
Very simple huh
Lmao so basically just know how to do it ahead of time
Jeez Korg. Learn to mix volume
Jesus
Sounds a little bit like Rachmaninov
Thanks for nothing 🙄. First step know the melody and then write a bunch of stuff that sounds good ?
Would have been more interesting to see what he thinks of when harmonizing.
You can hear and see, very clearly, what he's doing. Transcribe the shit and study it. You want him to chew your food for you?
@@standarddisclaimer Well, in a video titled "How to harmonize a Dirty Loops song", yes, yes I actually want to be spoon fed. Or at least get a general direction. Start with the bass line? Think of a phrase/harmonic progression and sequence it in the same interval? Write something inspired by baroque counterpoint i.e. focus more on voice leading rather than harmony? Just something would have been great. If I want to transcribe it I just play the tune on RUclips or similar and then I don't need this video.
@@SteffenThole Agreed, although they do show his hands, which should make transcription easier. I think one of the most valuable things he says in this video is regarding how he composes a "counter-melody" as a framework for his harmonizations - that's actually a pretty big piece of info. But if someone wants to really understand what he's doing, I really do think transcription is the best approach. You'll absorb the info much better that way, and it will probably ultimately make more sense because it's more tactile, and your body/physiology is more involved.
In this case, he's teaching by showing, not so much talking - and you can hear/see him very clearly. Learn to play what he's showing you. He's showing you some of the chord progressions he likes to use. There's a lot of information there.
@@standarddisclaimer Seeing him play can be a huge help, especially in a busy mix, that's true. And his point about writing a counter-melody is valid, too. I realize that my only problem with this video is the title which gave me expectations that didn't get fulfilled. When it comes to understanding that part of Next To You, this video is actually a pretty valuable resource, I see that now.
@@SteffenThole I don't disagree with what you were saying - just trying to put a more positive spin on it. The video could be better, but on the other hand, it's a lot better than nothing. Glass half full. :)
😂
TLDR: Get good.
So the moral of the story is GET GOOD NOOB
I learned nothing! lolll
Step 1: Don't
Dear Korg... ADJUST YOUR DAMN AUDIO LEVELS IN YOUR VIDEO!! going from whisper talking to blaring music is so embarrassing and annoying.
What I heard: First, you go shupow then wazam and a little fowow and there you have it. Now you can harmonise like me :)
Это называется контрапункт!)😉
This is cool!
See, America. I told you that Pop music doesn't HAVE to be ignorant, degrading, overly repetitive, unintelligent, hyper-violent, hyper-sexual, disrespectful, and flat out WEAK. You can actually STUDY music and have something worthwhile to say, and a nice blend of Classical and Jazz music to "season" your Pop will NEVER lead you astray. There's NOTHING wrong with Rap music interjected into Pop music either, just for the love of Yahawah, keep it respectable. Alright, alright! My rant has concluded, kids. Now, go and listen to the great artists like THESE "dirty loopers" do. Let's see ummm......Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Armstrong, Parker, and Hancock should get you started. HeeHee!!
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