The "don't just focus on kills and focus more on farming as you go" trick literally changed everything for me. I went from doing okay and bad to having the most souls in each game and even taking on 2 vs 1s with EASE! This dude is legit lol
I didn't hear any advice about this beforehand, but I'm new to Mobas and I just figured that farming/stealing souls was the best strategy since you have so much to gain from the store. Glad to see I wasn't too far off.
Keep in mind that this is just the most effective game strategy for now, it can be changed with any update of the formulas for killing or nerfing jungle/lane creeps
Team fights are really difficult to track. They feel closer to long Overwatch fights then MOBA team fights IMO. With complex positioning and tracking cooldowns. They're even more complicated when you add in that there are meaningful objectives all over the map that you have to question if fighting is even good.
Great guide, I immediatly noticed the difference in my games! Now that my mid game is better, we often lose the close games in the later stages, when teamfighting or trying to get the Rejuvenator/Urn. Can't wait for more guides to learn about those aspects aswell. Keep it up my dude
He won't get nerfed till pro play IMO. He seems like some champs in LoL like leesin or akali, where they aren't huge threats for average skill brackets but will be absolutely broken in chally/pro play
In high mmr lash is a pain in the ass already. Good lash can peel for his teeamates while dealing damage with q and r as well as take good trades in early laning phase with e (even though he sucks laning phase compared to other chars). There are core items of course but he can freely build both gun damage and spirit and both work quite well. He is all rounder, definetly not he most OP (there is shiv) but one of the best.
Your guides are very helpful and enjoyable to watch. Since you said you main lash, maybe you can make a lash tips and tricks guide or a vod recap explaining your decision making.
Same old Dota problem. You get ahead of the power curve, you're doing pretty well, 3 incredibly fed enemies turn up from the other lanes and stomp you over and over and over because someone went 0-13
been using this advice in my games today and been hard smurfing 13k souls up on everyone in the lobby. very well said and effective guide! cant wait for more.
For real! I was always struggling with souls cause i would mainly push lanes all game and team fight if it was close enough. Now im easily richest player in my games today. :)
The redundancy helps me learn and I think most people even if they don’t realize it. I don’t think anyone learns any piece of info from just hearing it once. Just so you don’t feel bad about it in the future :) Excellent videos, I will be keeping an eye out for more!
Really interesting video. I'm fairly new to MOBAs and recently started playing Deadlock and enjoying it a lot. I'm typically doing alright in the laning phases but often fall behind in mid to late game because I wasn't really sure how to farm efficiently after dropping my lane. I'll definitely try this approach! :)
The big takeaway from this is that time spent traveling is time wasted. You need to accomplish your "actual" objectives but if you spend too much time doing that the enemy team could farm their way past you and take the lead... and if you focus on making sure that you remain ahead, you can stall the game in your favor indefinitely. There will always be another opportunity to shoot a walker.
I love watching these videos even as a high mmr player myself because I love learning from others on what I could be doing more optimally even at a high mmr. Me and my duo have really been improving in our laning phase and this video will help a lot with pushing our advantage to the midgame. However, we still hit kind of a rut when playing from behind. I know you mentioned in this video that you should avoid taking fights and focus on safe farming which we've both been trying to do to some degree, but I feel like we could be doing that better especially in 0.1% high mmr when we get punished a lot more easily. I'd love to hear any extra advice about playing from behind if you got any!
Hey, love to get comments from others who enjoy the game enough to play that hard. I would say that the best advice I can give outside of just farming is that when we talk about the idea of "avoiding taking fights", it's not a set in stone rule that you always have to follow. It's just about finding good fights, and in high enough elo sometimes it's about FORCING good fights, which sounds counterintuitive but at the highest level people will always be able to maintain their leads and you kind of need to break their system in order to succeed and make plays that will actually have impact and bring you back. I have a VOD where I'm getting mowed down in lane, and by rotating to a side lane I essentially force a skirmish where my laner comes to counter and it turns into a full on 4v4 and we end up winning and it brings me back from 2k soul deficit. I can give you the ID if you wanna take a look, but that's kind of what it's about. It's not always gonna work though and really the best way to come back from a deficit is to not let the enemy put you at once in the first place haha.
@@avgjoe2 I'd love to take a look at the VOD! To be honest, I've done similar things in the past after seeing other people's advice like catgirl's about forcing rotations.
Hi, I love DeadLock and your videos are really great for learning I play Haze and for now I want to learn early game/laning phase and rotation, I'm a main Jungler on LoL so I love ganking the other lane! Can you make a video talking about rotation and/or matchup during the early lane phase?
Hey, yes I can but that would be a video that would probably be released a week or two down the line since I would need to make the video specifically about her. Some tips I can give you now are: 1. Try to play safe and farm per 500, trade only when your sleep is up and heavy punch them after putting them to sleep before you start shooting (if you can) 2. Roaming early/before taking enemy tower is really hard in this game especially because it's really really easy to die if you get caught 3. Haze is a good late game carry so focus on getting your core items like Tesla Bullets/Ricochet/Lucky Shot then farming and getting Unstoppable for big teamfights Good luck!
@@avgjoe2 thanks for tips! I really Need and want that video so when and if u have time please do It! Love your content, i Will probably try Lash, and i dont like him, but i Will probably do because your guide on him Is really really good.
I'm new to MOBAs. I didnt like the more typical ones. Played a lot of Battlerite which is basically MOBA combat without the rest of the stuff you have to worry about I've been playing pretty much only Wraith, with some Abrams mixed in (punching people is fun). On Wraith I almost always have a huge lead on OBJ damage. I can get kills easily with the ult especially if i find someone alone who's roaming or solo laning. But it's great basically being able to solo walkers and base guardians (and even shrines sometimes) and delete their health super quick. Fun character.
You might also enjoy McGinnis, she also obliterates objectives really quickly especially if you buy Monster Rounds which increases NPC damage by 35% -- not entirely sure if it works on Walkers, etc. but it does help with clearing waves
Hey bro, thank you! I haven't played Valorant in a long time and I'm pretty much only playing Deadlock nowadays but there's tons of pro aim routines on YT like Demon1, etc.
I'd recommend "mastering" lane phase first, then farming patterns before worrying about anything else Ideally you should farm boxes and camps inbetween one enemy trooper wave and the other Monster bullets or something is a very good early gaming item to secure last hits and regen your HP to increase sustain
Great guide especially to help show people what to be doing once lane ends. It’s not one dimensional a lot of variables come into play when decision making in a moba especially this one. Do you happen to know if there is a comp discord for the higher elo players? I’m tryna step into higher level team play
I haven't looked, been really swamped with school recently, but I'm sure there is one, just do a little bit of searching. I know that they already conduct scrims and have done tournaments
Vindicta's core strength when it comes to ganking is her ability to fly, so you can shove your waves in and sort of "gank" while still staying near your own lane by getting on top of a building using the zip line then flying up high and dashing towards the lane you wanna gank.
It's just opportunity - I didn't really cover Urn too much in this video because I think it's better to let teammates do it in low MMR than to do it yourself because it does take a bit of time, but it is worth doing for sure. I would say as a general rule of thumb, look to do Urn when the enemies are down 1-2 or if you think they aren't going to contest it. Otherwise you can call your teammates to contest it and it can lead to successful fights but it is a bit risky, so just decide situationally.
Also another thing people dont seem to mention, in other games you have gold and XP here you have souls which also count as XP, you being ahead means you also have a bunch of extra stats up on your oponent and you would take less damage deal more damage etc.
An important thing is that killing enemy objectives gives you skill points as well, like killing the tier 1 towers. Your team could have a huge lead solely off of having more upgrades skills. Edit: That's not a thing anymore!
Good video. Great insight amongst the bloat of low quality garbage videos coming out of the woodwork with the new hype of this game. Efficiency is the name of the game here. Subbed and waiting for more. Can you do a lash guide please? Would love to put him into my roster. Also one thing to work on - your mic volumes are a bit over the place sometimes.
Hey thanks for the comment -- of course! I'll mix my movement guide into my ultimate guide for Lash. I think Lash is the best character to play to master movement, he really forces you to move effectively or you'll suck haha. And thanks for the feedback, that's something I noticed as well and I've tried playing around with the audio but it's difficult to get down perfectly. Hopefully for my next video I can fix that.
@@avgjoe2 definitely. I’m enjoying vindicta and haze as carries but they’re not training my movement enough. I also reckon lash will be a premier diver/combo-er when the meta matures and this I need to get on top of his skill set. Also it looks fun as. Super looking forward to that guide. Hope the RUclips algorithm hits for you.
@@hiral-gp5ob Thank you bro I really appreciate that. I definitely think Lash is the most fun character in the game I always have a blast on him. If you enjoy carries like Vindicta/Haze you might also enjoy Infernus he kind of plays similarly in that sense
Pretty decent guide, after playing a few games you'd hope people understand soul advantage is everything, but I've seen many people look at KD/A instead which is sad. They're all about ego and taking fights brainlessly with the hopes they go well, even when they're behind, and cause you to lose games.
Some heroes do seem to benefit from going full assassin over trying to flash farm. Vindicta comes to mind. Even fed fatter than Gaben, clearing jungle camps takes some serious time.
This game takes incredible amount of stuff from Dota. Majority of basic things and even mechanics don't really need to be explained if you've played Dota before, as they literally work either the same or very close
Showing optimal routes to take that focus on camps, statues+boxes would be a good video. Shows how to maximize on farm while being able to play flexible and gank if possible
Can you made video about heroes/roles? You mention some hero is a late carry, who else? I think it will be very cool for beginners to know, when your hero time to shine and what's your objective hero-wise
Hey, yeah I'm currently working on part 2 of my Lash guide, but if you want just a general gist there are lots of good videos out there that give you kind of a summary of what every character is good for!
Does this also apply when we're behind? Like when our Tower being the first to destroyed and our Souls is a little behind, should we go farm jungle to catch up?
Yes. Farm waves from safe angles and jungle when given the chance. The crates and boxes give lots of important loot as well and are super accessible even when behind -- When behind, denying enemy souls is important so try to do that as well (especially after 10 mins since it completely denies them the cash and gives it to you). If your whole team loses lane though or your team as a whole is behind the game is usually really hard to get back into. If you have some strong teammates though, you can go to side lanes and ask them to go towards the middle where it's a bit riskier, allowing you to farm for a while.
Editor here. If you last hit the minion, you'll still get full souls when the orb expires naturally. If no enemies are going to deny it from you, you don't need to secure it.
At what point can we usually farm the largest minion camps? I always waste my time on them coz i always think i can farm them efficiently but end up almost dying and wasting time.
Depends who you play, but it's just about recognizing how much damage you do. I take them kind of early on Infernus/Haze because their outputs are insane but it's a bit harder on others
what do you do if you're either losing your lane or early game takes way too long... like no progress moving forward in my lane. Do i focus on farming when i lose my lane?
❤Awesome video! May I translate your guides into Chinese and put them on Chinese video site and sign your credit with the link to your channel? Thank you!
Had a mega fed Ivy in the enemy team today she was killing everyone with just primary fire... what would you suggest is the right play against players like these and yourself who are always way ahead in the economy?
Against primary fire/bullet damage the item Metal Skin is super valid, but in general the game is an economy based game so whoever has more money usually wins, especially if it's by a great margin like 7-10k for an individual player. The real key is not letting them get to that point by making sure you keep up in souls. Also, Improved Bullet Armor cuts bullet damage by a raw 45-50%, so definitely buy that if you notice that a particular player is super ahead and building lots of wep damage, or if their whole team in general is building lots of wep damage.
Appreciate the video but, not sure youve ever played league based on what you said. "Its not like league, how you carry is going to be different based on who youre playing". Oh, you mean like ever MOBA ever created. If you want comparisons to league, Deadlock is an extremely snowbally game. In league there are a lot of catchup mechanics, like bounties. In deadlock it is not only crucial but honestly easy to convert lane wins into whole game domination with very little punishment.
I think I miscommunicated what I meant -- in League, there are actual roles that determine who is going to carry. Even if you succeed as a support early game, you need to make sure your ADC is not an infant and gets enough gold to carry the game post 25-30mins, but in Deadlock, anyone can carry with enough money in their bank account and just steam roll an enemy team. Closest thing we have to a carry support in League is a Pyke and even he kinda sucks balls late game when we compare his DPS to an actual carry. In Deadlock "supports" technically "fall off" but it's not to the same level as all. Same thing with some top laners/jg. You aren't gonna carry on Malphite the same way you would on a Darius, but in Deadlock anyone can build DPS/Tank/Spirit all the same and still be viable.
no. this not true at all. 1st; your hero and team composition can change how you play mid game. not every mid game is farming neutrals and backing up to racks souls advantage. for example, if you have Bebopp and Lash on your team, you want to keep pressuring enemy, especially the enemy cores (or late game carry), make them cannot farm to make a lategame comebacks. focus on mid-game skirmish to snowball your game to early patron push is your objective. and its different if your team has Wraith or Ivy that scales incredibly well on late game. you want to make less fight as possible on mid game so you can make late 2nd; this is Valve game, not league, so it's based more Dota timings and phases more than League. just try Dota, and you will understand how to approach this whole game. 3rd; Lash is pure ganking hero, and when you said "just jungle/neutral and leave your lane", your self proclaimed "Ex-Challenger League" doesn't meant anything to me.
1. Obviously every game is situational but no one ever won a game by standing around not farming and forcing every fight that came along. Farming and looking for good fights is the name of the game in every moba. Every character in this game has the potential to carry with the right gameplay and soul advantage. 2. This makes sense but it's just better to focus on playing Deadlock than to play Dota in order to get better at Deadlock lol. 3. In my VOD you literally see me ganking as soon as I break the first tower lol. How do you plan to gank without leaving your lane? I didn't say farm all game, I said farm and try to only take advantageous fights. Actually watch the video before commenting big bro ❤️
@@avgjoe2 brother, your job as Ganker/Spotter is making a space for your Cores (for example, Haze & Vindicta on your team) to them safely farm neutral or making a lane safe because you can spot enemy from rooftops. And that is what Lash kit are made for. by you farming those neutral creeps you basically stealing farming from your Cores on your team because neutrals only spawn every few minutes. and particularly if you steal their farm on mid game, which can make your Core missed core farming items (such as tesla bullets) and in addition, because your kit is basically don't scale well on late game compared to other Cores, you basically asking for late game lose because your Haze and Vindicta is under-farmed compared to enemy Wraith. that's because you busy on killing neutrals rather than Gank that Wraith. it is trully sad to see self-proclaimed "League ex-Challenger" misunderstood team-economy system completely. it shows how oversimplified the Leagues is compared to Dota. unless that "League ex-Challenger" was lie.
@@HeyMaruniko You're talking about game principle in a Normal (no ranked) game that's in pre-early access. I agree that at the highest level in pro-play it will be valuable to funnel that farm into your team's "core" as you call it, but in a Solo Q game with a bunch of randoms you can't say with confidence that every one of your teammates is going to be reliable and worth funneling money into. Individual skill prevails in pubs, but in organized play, your point stands strong bro :)
@@OrdoMallius alot of placeholders. They changed the Art direction and setting of the game not too long ago (game was developed under a different name aswell) and its currently a pre alpha build with alot of changes to come
LOL I'm left handed so my set up is a bit weird. I use arrow keys to move, making my ability keys the ones right above them. 1 is set to DEL, 2 to END, 3 to PGDN, 4 to INS, and Zip Boost/Parry to Num0 on the keypad.
i never played league.. youre at highest rank in league?? omfg.. theres very important farming rotations that u lack, i think that another reason that proves league is shlt game compare to dota, slight above average players in dota are very aware of the farming rotations that u lack of and how u play with the map
I haven't played a Moba in years to be fair so I think a current Challenger would probably have an easier time figuring out the rotations; most recently I sunk in a lot of hours into Valorant trying to go pro haha
The "don't just focus on kills and focus more on farming as you go" trick literally changed everything for me. I went from doing okay and bad to having the most souls in each game and even taking on 2 vs 1s with EASE! This dude is legit lol
Glad to hear that bro thank you for the support! :)
I didn't hear any advice about this beforehand, but I'm new to Mobas and I just figured that farming/stealing souls was the best strategy since you have so much to gain from the store. Glad to see I wasn't too far off.
I knew I wasn't crazy trying to farm while my team that's behind on souls constantly team fighting in middle of nowhere
This game is kinda trippy cus it's different from standard mobas and your guides are really good. keep it up bro.
Keep in mind that this is just the most effective game strategy for now, it can be changed with any update of the formulas for killing or nerfing jungle/lane creeps
Team fights are really difficult to track. They feel closer to long Overwatch fights then MOBA team fights IMO. With complex positioning and tracking cooldowns. They're even more complicated when you add in that there are meaningful objectives all over the map that you have to question if fighting is even good.
Mid-game is always a struggle for an FPS Only player like me but this made a lot of sense. Great video 🙏
Agreed thanks!
it's a struggle for even seasoned moba players 😂
@@shinobiwannabefr its difficult asl unless u get a free early game
Hey as someone completely new to MOBAs I found this breakdown really helpful!
Great guide, I immediatly noticed the difference in my games! Now that my mid game is better, we often lose the close games in the later stages, when teamfighting or trying to get the Rejuvenator/Urn. Can't wait for more guides to learn about those aspects aswell. Keep it up my dude
Thank you bro, I'll definitely look to make a late-game/how to close games out guide as well in the near future
This is exactly what I'm looking for. A macro approach, talking about concepts and how to apply them in every game. Thanks
been binging content and this has been the most helpful video so far, thanks! hope to see more like it
This channel is gna go big tysm
8:30 when you could win the game but Warwick is busy farming Krugs while everyone on the map is already full build.
lash is the most fun character for me, I hope they don't gut his kit too much
He won't get nerfed till pro play IMO. He seems like some champs in LoL like leesin or akali, where they aren't huge threats for average skill brackets but will be absolutely broken in chally/pro play
In high mmr lash is a pain in the ass already. Good lash can peel for his teeamates while dealing damage with q and r as well as take good trades in early laning phase with e (even though he sucks laning phase compared to other chars). There are core items of course but he can freely build both gun damage and spirit and both work quite well. He is all rounder, definetly not he most OP (there is shiv) but one of the best.
Your guides are very helpful and enjoyable to watch. Since you said you main lash, maybe you can make a lash tips and tricks guide or a vod recap explaining your decision making.
@@mpc2846 Done. Part 1 uploaded
Joe back with another BANGER! 🔥
God tier guide keep it up and I'm sure you'll grow your channel like crazy
Hey dude I'm new to this game. Great content and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts the whole video and not rambling
Same old Dota problem. You get ahead of the power curve, you're doing pretty well, 3 incredibly fed enemies turn up from the other lanes and stomp you over and over and over because someone went 0-13
been using this advice in my games today and been hard smurfing 13k souls up on everyone in the lobby. very well said and effective guide! cant wait for more.
For real! I was always struggling with souls cause i would mainly push lanes all game and team fight if it was close enough. Now im easily richest player in my games today. :)
Appreciate that a lot, I'll try to upload as often as I can; I want to eventually get into doing guides for every single character individually
This channel is going places. Here before 1k!
The redundancy helps me learn and I think most people even if they don’t realize it. I don’t think anyone learns any piece of info from just hearing it once. Just so you don’t feel bad about it in the future :) Excellent videos, I will be keeping an eye out for more!
Really interesting video. I'm fairly new to MOBAs and recently started playing Deadlock and enjoying it a lot.
I'm typically doing alright in the laning phases but often fall behind in mid to late game because I wasn't really sure how to farm efficiently after dropping my lane.
I'll definitely try this approach! :)
Fantastic video. Really helped me. Thanks!
This was really helpful. After a disastrous game of being a moneyless Yamato, I realized how important farming is instead of going for kills.
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The big takeaway from this is that time spent traveling is time wasted. You need to accomplish your "actual" objectives but if you spend too much time doing that the enemy team could farm their way past you and take the lead... and if you focus on making sure that you remain ahead, you can stall the game in your favor indefinitely. There will always be another opportunity to shoot a walker.
That was really helpful, would be cool to see a followup video about late game.
I love watching these videos even as a high mmr player myself because I love learning from others on what I could be doing more optimally even at a high mmr. Me and my duo have really been improving in our laning phase and this video will help a lot with pushing our advantage to the midgame. However, we still hit kind of a rut when playing from behind. I know you mentioned in this video that you should avoid taking fights and focus on safe farming which we've both been trying to do to some degree, but I feel like we could be doing that better especially in 0.1% high mmr when we get punished a lot more easily. I'd love to hear any extra advice about playing from behind if you got any!
Hey, love to get comments from others who enjoy the game enough to play that hard. I would say that the best advice I can give outside of just farming is that when we talk about the idea of "avoiding taking fights", it's not a set in stone rule that you always have to follow. It's just about finding good fights, and in high enough elo sometimes it's about FORCING good fights, which sounds counterintuitive but at the highest level people will always be able to maintain their leads and you kind of need to break their system in order to succeed and make plays that will actually have impact and bring you back.
I have a VOD where I'm getting mowed down in lane, and by rotating to a side lane I essentially force a skirmish where my laner comes to counter and it turns into a full on 4v4 and we end up winning and it brings me back from 2k soul deficit. I can give you the ID if you wanna take a look, but that's kind of what it's about. It's not always gonna work though and really the best way to come back from a deficit is to not let the enemy put you at once in the first place haha.
@@avgjoe2 I'd love to take a look at the VOD! To be honest, I've done similar things in the past after seeing other people's advice like catgirl's about forcing rotations.
Nice guide, bro, thanks ❤
Hi, I love DeadLock and your videos are really great for learning
I play Haze and for now I want to learn early game/laning phase and rotation, I'm a main Jungler on LoL so I love ganking the other lane!
Can you make a video talking about rotation and/or matchup during the early lane phase?
Hey, yes I can but that would be a video that would probably be released a week or two down the line since I would need to make the video specifically about her.
Some tips I can give you now are:
1. Try to play safe and farm per 500, trade only when your sleep is up and heavy punch them after putting them to sleep before you start shooting (if you can)
2. Roaming early/before taking enemy tower is really hard in this game especially because it's really really easy to die if you get caught
3. Haze is a good late game carry so focus on getting your core items like Tesla Bullets/Ricochet/Lucky Shot then farming and getting Unstoppable for big teamfights
Good luck!
@@avgjoe2 thanks for tips! I really Need and want that video so when and if u have time please do It!
Love your content, i Will probably try Lash, and i dont like him, but i Will probably do because your guide on him Is really really good.
Dudes playing Lash…. Arguably one of the best characters in the game right now.
Good stuff man. Subbed
man once I realized how lucrative it is to farm boxes and gold statues during rotations my gameplay has improved IMMENSELY
I'm new to MOBAs. I didnt like the more typical ones. Played a lot of Battlerite which is basically MOBA combat without the rest of the stuff you have to worry about
I've been playing pretty much only Wraith, with some Abrams mixed in (punching people is fun). On Wraith I almost always have a huge lead on OBJ damage. I can get kills easily with the ult especially if i find someone alone who's roaming or solo laning. But it's great basically being able to solo walkers and base guardians (and even shrines sometimes) and delete their health super quick. Fun character.
You might also enjoy McGinnis, she also obliterates objectives really quickly especially if you buy Monster Rounds which increases NPC damage by 35% -- not entirely sure if it works on Walkers, etc. but it does help with clearing waves
Too slow of a character for me tbh. At least initially, I always dislike turret-based characters in games lol
I’m new to moba and man this helped a lot thank you. I main Pocket btw🔥
This man is a goat ❤
Btw could you do a valorant guide on mechanic and aim routines if possible 😃
Hey bro, thank you! I haven't played Valorant in a long time and I'm pretty much only playing Deadlock nowadays but there's tons of pro aim routines on YT like Demon1, etc.
what a great guide
I'd recommend "mastering" lane phase first, then farming patterns before worrying about anything else
Ideally you should farm boxes and camps inbetween one enemy trooper wave and the other
Monster bullets or something is a very good early gaming item to secure last hits and regen your HP to increase sustain
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Great guide especially to help show people what to be doing once lane ends. It’s not one dimensional a lot of variables come into play when decision making in a moba especially this one. Do you happen to know if there is a comp discord for the higher elo players? I’m tryna step into higher level team play
I haven't looked, been really swamped with school recently, but I'm sure there is one, just do a little bit of searching. I know that they already conduct scrims and have done tournaments
@@avgjoe2 Good luck with school appreciate the reply
question: on someone like vindicta who can get 600 additional souls for ganking, should she be focused on gabking?
Vindicta's core strength when it comes to ganking is her ability to fly, so you can shove your waves in and sort of "gank" while still staying near your own lane by getting on top of a building using the zip line then flying up high and dashing towards the lane you wanna gank.
@@avgjoe2 i see, thanks!
are we ignoring the urn then ? or when do we play it ? great vid btw
It's just opportunity - I didn't really cover Urn too much in this video because I think it's better to let teammates do it in low MMR than to do it yourself because it does take a bit of time, but it is worth doing for sure. I would say as a general rule of thumb, look to do Urn when the enemies are down 1-2 or if you think they aren't going to contest it. Otherwise you can call your teammates to contest it and it can lead to successful fights but it is a bit risky, so just decide situationally.
best mid game guide
Also another thing people dont seem to mention, in other games you have gold and XP here you have souls which also count as XP, you being ahead means you also have a bunch of extra stats up on your oponent and you would take less damage deal more damage etc.
An important thing is that killing enemy objectives gives you skill points as well, like killing the tier 1 towers. Your team could have a huge lead solely off of having more upgrades skills. Edit: That's not a thing anymore!
great content
Good video. Great insight amongst the bloat of low quality garbage videos coming out of the woodwork with the new hype of this game. Efficiency is the name of the game here. Subbed and waiting for more.
Can you do a lash guide please? Would love to put him into my roster.
Also one thing to work on - your mic volumes are a bit over the place sometimes.
Hey thanks for the comment -- of course! I'll mix my movement guide into my ultimate guide for Lash. I think Lash is the best character to play to master movement, he really forces you to move effectively or you'll suck haha.
And thanks for the feedback, that's something I noticed as well and I've tried playing around with the audio but it's difficult to get down perfectly. Hopefully for my next video I can fix that.
@@avgjoe2 definitely. I’m enjoying vindicta and haze as carries but they’re not training my movement enough.
I also reckon lash will be a premier diver/combo-er when the meta matures and this I need to get on top of his skill set. Also it looks fun as. Super looking forward to that guide. Hope the RUclips algorithm hits for you.
@@hiral-gp5ob Thank you bro I really appreciate that. I definitely think Lash is the most fun character in the game I always have a blast on him. If you enjoy carries like Vindicta/Haze you might also enjoy Infernus he kind of plays similarly in that sense
@@avgjoe2 Yea I played him for a bit but more as a dps drain tank. Gotta branch out too
@@hiral-gp5ob Done! (part 1 anyway)
Pretty decent guide, after playing a few games you'd hope people understand soul advantage is everything, but I've seen many people look at KD/A instead which is sad. They're all about ego and taking fights brainlessly with the hopes they go well, even when they're behind, and cause you to lose games.
Some heroes do seem to benefit from going full assassin over trying to flash farm. Vindicta comes to mind. Even fed fatter than Gaben, clearing jungle camps takes some serious time.
Vindicta is really good at being everywhere at once and her 4/sniper is really good at that so I agree.
This game takes incredible amount of stuff from Dota. Majority of basic things and even mechanics don't really need to be explained if you've played Dota before, as they literally work either the same or very close
this is a good video
Showing optimal routes to take that focus on camps, statues+boxes would be a good video. Shows how to maximize on farm while being able to play flexible and gank if possible
One important thing for new player.. LOOK THE F*** MAP
Can you made video about heroes/roles? You mention some hero is a late carry, who else? I think it will be very cool for beginners to know, when your hero time to shine and what's your objective hero-wise
Hey, yeah I'm currently working on part 2 of my Lash guide, but if you want just a general gist there are lots of good videos out there that give you kind of a summary of what every character is good for!
@@avgjoe2 nah, I rate your opinion very high! Better your video than out there. But otherwise better something than nothing 😅
Does this also apply when we're behind? Like when our Tower being the first to destroyed and our Souls is a little behind, should we go farm jungle to catch up?
Yes. Farm waves from safe angles and jungle when given the chance. The crates and boxes give lots of important loot as well and are super accessible even when behind --
When behind, denying enemy souls is important so try to do that as well (especially after 10 mins since it completely denies them the cash and gives it to you). If your whole team loses lane though or your team as a whole is behind the game is usually really hard to get back into.
If you have some strong teammates though, you can go to side lanes and ask them to go towards the middle where it's a bit riskier, allowing you to farm for a while.
@@avgjoe2 thank you, it's a bless to have people like you in the community. Hope your channel grows fast
@@DanTheCopy Thank you I really appreciate that bro it means a lot
Why isn't he shooting the minion orbs after 10 minutes? Thought that's what you're meant to do to get full souls no?
Editor here. If you last hit the minion, you'll still get full souls when the orb expires naturally. If no enemies are going to deny it from you, you don't need to secure it.
Good stuff to know, tho im more struggling with the Aiming part
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How are you VOD reviewing your old game in the video?
Replay system in the game allows you to. Just click on your match history and click any game and you can download the VOD
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At what point can we usually farm the largest minion camps? I always waste my time on them coz i always think i can farm them efficiently but end up almost dying and wasting time.
Depends who you play, but it's just about recognizing how much damage you do. I take them kind of early on Infernus/Haze because their outputs are insane but it's a bit harder on others
Chasing is a terrible strategy. My biggest gripe is that i spend the majority of the game killing minions and farm
LEARN THE TELEPORTERS. At the moment, theyre crucial for good jungle pathing.
Good call, the teleporters are really useful and something that I hadn't started maximizing at the time of that VOD
@avgjoe2 they also went through a change on the big recent patch, they feel better for pathing now- in my experience
what do you do if you're either losing your lane or early game takes way too long... like no progress moving forward in my lane. Do i focus on farming when i lose my lane?
The video said 'do not fight if you're behind on farm'
Yes focus on farming, because being down 2-3k souls early game basically makes fights unwinnable
❤Awesome video! May I translate your guides into Chinese and put them on Chinese video site and sign your credit with the link to your channel? Thank you!
Of course, that would be awesome!
That feeling when I was challenger too but SUCK at Deadlock. I can't figure Viscous out. I don't wanna say he's shit but I think he might be lol.
I think you should maybe try Lash, I think he makes the best use of good macro gameplay and he’s not difficult per se
Just abuse lash seven and shiv until they get balanced and stop doing 300 damage with base abilities lol.
Exactly
Kills are worth SO little in this game compared to other mobas.
ex-challenger of what? My brother in Christ this game isn't even out yet.
League of Legends
Had a mega fed Ivy in the enemy team today she was killing everyone with just primary fire... what would you suggest is the right play against players like these and yourself who are always way ahead in the economy?
Against primary fire/bullet damage the item Metal Skin is super valid, but in general the game is an economy based game so whoever has more money usually wins, especially if it's by a great margin like 7-10k for an individual player.
The real key is not letting them get to that point by making sure you keep up in souls.
Also, Improved Bullet Armor cuts bullet damage by a raw 45-50%, so definitely buy that if you notice that a particular player is super ahead and building lots of wep damage, or if their whole team in general is building lots of wep damage.
@@avgjoe2 heavily appreciate these tips! I'll try this in my future encounters
Appreciate the video but, not sure youve ever played league based on what you said. "Its not like league, how you carry is going to be different based on who youre playing". Oh, you mean like ever MOBA ever created. If you want comparisons to league, Deadlock is an extremely snowbally game. In league there are a lot of catchup mechanics, like bounties. In deadlock it is not only crucial but honestly easy to convert lane wins into whole game domination with very little punishment.
I think I miscommunicated what I meant -- in League, there are actual roles that determine who is going to carry. Even if you succeed as a support early game, you need to make sure your ADC is not an infant and gets enough gold to carry the game post 25-30mins, but in Deadlock, anyone can carry with enough money in their bank account and just steam roll an enemy team. Closest thing we have to a carry support in League is a Pyke and even he kinda sucks balls late game when we compare his DPS to an actual carry. In Deadlock "supports" technically "fall off" but it's not to the same level as all. Same thing with some top laners/jg. You aren't gonna carry on Malphite the same way you would on a Darius, but in Deadlock anyone can build DPS/Tank/Spirit all the same and still be viable.
10 games in a row, always 2 leavers and cant win.. so frustrating to carry but not reach the win
At least it's not ranked lol
no. this not true at all.
1st; your hero and team composition can change how you play mid game. not every mid game is farming neutrals and backing up to racks souls advantage.
for example, if you have Bebopp and Lash on your team, you want to keep pressuring enemy, especially the enemy cores (or late game carry), make them cannot farm to make a lategame comebacks. focus on mid-game skirmish to snowball your game to early patron push is your objective.
and its different if your team has Wraith or Ivy that scales incredibly well on late game. you want to make less fight as possible on mid game so you can make late
2nd; this is Valve game, not league, so it's based more Dota timings and phases more than League. just try Dota, and you will understand how to approach this whole game.
3rd; Lash is pure ganking hero, and when you said "just jungle/neutral and leave your lane", your self proclaimed "Ex-Challenger League" doesn't meant anything to me.
1. Obviously every game is situational but no one ever won a game by standing around not farming and forcing every fight that came along. Farming and looking for good fights is the name of the game in every moba. Every character in this game has the potential to carry with the right gameplay and soul advantage.
2. This makes sense but it's just better to focus on playing Deadlock than to play Dota in order to get better at Deadlock lol.
3. In my VOD you literally see me ganking as soon as I break the first tower lol. How do you plan to gank without leaving your lane? I didn't say farm all game, I said farm and try to only take advantageous fights. Actually watch the video before commenting big bro ❤️
@@avgjoe2 brother, your job as Ganker/Spotter is making a space for your Cores (for example, Haze & Vindicta on your team) to them safely farm neutral or making a lane safe because you can spot enemy from rooftops. And that is what Lash kit are made for. by you farming those neutral creeps you basically stealing farming from your Cores on your team because neutrals only spawn every few minutes. and particularly if you steal their farm on mid game, which can make your Core missed core farming items (such as tesla bullets) and in addition, because your kit is basically don't scale well on late game compared to other Cores, you basically asking for late game lose because your Haze and Vindicta is under-farmed compared to enemy Wraith. that's because you busy on killing neutrals rather than Gank that Wraith.
it is trully sad to see self-proclaimed "League ex-Challenger" misunderstood team-economy system completely. it shows how oversimplified the Leagues is compared to Dota.
unless that "League ex-Challenger" was lie.
@@HeyMaruniko You're talking about game principle in a Normal (no ranked) game that's in pre-early access. I agree that at the highest level in pro-play it will be valuable to funnel that farm into your team's "core" as you call it, but in a Solo Q game with a bunch of randoms you can't say with confidence that every one of your teammates is going to be reliable and worth funneling money into. Individual skill prevails in pubs, but in organized play, your point stands strong bro :)
Do early and late game too
Hey, watch my newest video on demolishing your lane
@@avgjoe2 tyyyy
what is challenger, is that like herald in dota ?
Never played Dota but it's the highest rank in League, Deadlock still has no ranked lol
can you share your lash build?
Add me on discord imp123
Lanning is too oppressive and time between waves is too fast
Congrats on overcoming being challenged kappa
What does ex challenger mean??
Challenger in LoL
Sorry dude Lash is actually MY main, nobody else is allowed to play him
Lash 1v1 nuketown loser quits
@@avgjoe2 no uppercuts
@@pasc4l197 only divekicks*
Midgame isn't overwatch
Want super duper insight? Play dota this is literally dota shoota
What's your MMR ?
Somewhere around the top 1%, I play with front page players like fishcake, sinatraa, etc. here and there. Edit: According to Tracklock top 0.1%
The art style of this game is all over the place. I can get the 1920 but now there are alien bugs and robots with fucking candles for their head.
@@OrdoMallius alot of placeholders. They changed the Art direction and setting of the game not too long ago (game was developed under a different name aswell) and its currently a pre alpha build with alot of changes to come
Sniff
what you sniffin big dawg?
Too much talking about the mid-game.. .let's get a serious talk about your key bindings.. .im flipping in colours m8.. .amazing vid though !
LOL I'm left handed so my set up is a bit weird. I use arrow keys to move, making my ability keys the ones right above them. 1 is set to DEL, 2 to END, 3 to PGDN, 4 to INS, and Zip Boost/Parry to Num0 on the keypad.
"ex-challenger" 😂😂😂 anything for the clickbait
u lack something thats very important on playing with farming rotations and i will not say it bcoz im selfish and i want to be the only 1 at the top
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There's a top 0.1% MMR player named fishcake that plays Lash, and I just try to mimic his playstyle since I really respect his skill
i never played league.. youre at highest rank in league?? omfg.. theres very important farming rotations that u lack, i think that another reason that proves league is shlt game compare to dota, slight above average players in dota are very aware of the farming rotations that u lack of and how u play with the map
I haven't played a Moba in years to be fair so I think a current Challenger would probably have an easier time figuring out the rotations; most recently I sunk in a lot of hours into Valorant trying to go pro haha
ex challenger from what? 2 week game lol
Ex-Challenger from League lol
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