Installing Yose E bike Hub Motor Conversion Kit - In The Wooden Car!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Why do I always get a big smile when I see one of Way Out West's videos pop up?
It’s only the natural reaction
Me too 😅
I am 74 and wanting electric transport for more mobility on and off road I bought a 24in 6speed adult trike. I was going to use a hub drive, but with little weight on the front wheel it was impracticable. So I bought a complete Bafang mid drive system. The benefit of this system is you still have six speeds, unlike the hubs one. With a set of knobbly tires I am mobile once again.
I couldn't get a free mid-drive motor - but this seems good too. And I still have 6 speeds too
I am not the biggest mid drive fan but your application is spot on for a three wheel bike I found the front wheel set up just does not feel or do right. on a flat slow ride fine, but try to climb a steep hill and your wheel spins. You take off on dirt or gravel the wheel spins. yes the mid drive is the best way to go on a trike out side of hooking a motor right to the rear axle.
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 yes but your 6 speeds are pedal driven the electric motor being one speed. . My midi drive has 6 available gears with "no" pedal power. Living in Teignmouth Devon there is very little flat ground so the ability to climb hills is imperative. You are lucky for the freebie. The trike only cost £150 from amazon but the midi system with battery was the best part of £1000.
@@ianturpin9180 It may not be of concern to many riders, but does bear thinking about. As much as I disagree with the rules, if motor assistance can take you over 15.5mph in any gear, it is technically illegal to ride on public roads or cycle paths in the UK, unless registered as a motor vehicle, and taxed etc. That's not a problem, unless you're stopped by a police officer or are ever involved in a road "incident". If they notice, they will almost certainly seize your very expensive pride and joy, check it, and then it won't be returned. And maybe give you a fine too. I spoke to two police officers who had just relieved someone of their brand new, expensive, but illegal electric scooter. It was going to be crushed. A very expensive mistake.
@@another3997His kit will have a software speed limitation that cuts the assistance out at 15.5mph. You can pedal faster than that all you like, but you cannot be assisted beyond that.
Biggest issue on legality is police confiscating and scrapping bikes that are limited, pedal assist only, but do not have a manufacturer's motor plate fitted stating the max continuous power rating or max speed and voltage.
No kits ever come labelled appropriately.
Imagine a gang of fifty of these glorious machines, cresting over the hill as ride of the valykeries plays.
Very eager to build my own so we can make this a reality.
I love the smell of motorised plywood in the morning...
Hi Tim, I don't know if you realise this but you have inadvertently created a resonance chamber around the hub motor. Much like a guitar frame, the plywood body is vibrating and exponentially increasing the engine noise. Some acoustic foam or sound deadening compound will make for a much quieter ride.
You are so lucky there's only a single rear wheel, now!
Wow!! this is another one of your projects where persistence, trial and error, more trial and modifications, in this instance ends in a fabulous outcome. Well done to all of you.
Bloody brilliant!.... exactly what's needed for most personal journeys.
Most people will be aghast at your comment. I support it wholeheartedly.
Tim, pimp is one word I never would've thought I'd hear from you. You truly are a funny guy. Sandra must've been taken with your sense of humor when you first met. 😂😂😂 You make me laugh during every video.
Thanks Tracy : - )
"Bloody hell! This is great!"
I concur. I especially enjoyed watching the installation of the cassette. I've done this so many times myself for the customers of my bike shop. Intriguing to watch a fellow talented do-it-yourselfer handle a normally routine and mundane task.
My first time - but I got there in the end!
Fantastic 'Heath Robinson' style Cycle car , now with hub motor for pedal assist 👏 👌
Put in hub dynamo, modern light have capacitor inside so they light up several minutes after you have stopped. Then your lights always work, even the battery is empty.
some caution from building one of these personally. the spoked bicycle wheels are designed primarily to take loads through vertical axis. but mounting these wheels rigid, and the vehicle not 'leaning' into curves, the wheels are exposed to high lateral loads while turning. This has the tendency to warp the rim and brake spokes. upgrading the spokes to heavier gauge helps alot. or swapping them to unspoked wheels.
Would smaller wheels help?
I broke alot of rims, they just don't take the lateral loads. Swapping the spokes to heavier gauge helped, swapping to non spoked wheels helped even more (think 1980s mag wheels) @@awatt
Yuppers, a small teardrop trailer & you're off on a cross-ireland adventure!
Who needs horses to go trail riding when you've got an electric trike w/ a caravan trailer?
Wow! we have lift off. Every video is a new adventure. Great stuff.
The type of "sprocket" you had is the old freewheel type (where the free wheeling stuff is inside the unit), the new type uses a freehub body on the wheel hub and the "sprocket" is just a cassette of gears. The reason I write all this is that if a bike is old/cheap enough to have the old freewheel thing (and rim brakes...) I don't think it's wise converting it to an e-bike :D
I'm gonna have to check out this electric conversion set because I've been considering this for my bike for a while
Just brilliant 🤩 Tim such a genius we love watching and what you do.Just amazing and inspiring and fantastic.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
The car is marvelous. Your were all smiling wide driving it. 3 wheels are not so bad really. Now you have a working mule to run tests on, tweek the suspension, seating position, soft top etc. Iam so happy for you all. Cheers 🇨🇦
Looks like you need lights and fenders for the mud puddles. ♥ 🤘😁
A "DC Buck Converter" will give you 12v from the 36v battery.
I recommend lights rated for a range of voltages like 12v-48v or even 12v-100v. They can be simply powered from any battery in that range.
Great!
the only trouble is "legality" - here in UK at least, it would have to be "pedal assist"
For example using throttle to control e-motor makes it into a moped, with all the nonsense of "individual vehicle approval", MOT, insurance etc...
350 watt is also illegal (whatever you think about this particular law).
subscribed and will follow!!!
We have a very similar motor setup on our recumbent trikes. It's just 250W but gets along quite well, and lets us go places without getting tired. I found the cheap battery pack was not up to scratch though - apparently many of these bike battery packs use recycled cells from various sources, and they don't have the capacity they are specced for. We ended up paying for an expensive samsung battery pack which we haven't so far been able to flatten. Just a tip, if you do flatten the battery, don't do as I did and keep resetting it to eke out more distance. These Lion batteries don't like being drawn down below the cut off value and it does permanent harm. 👍🇦🇺
Resetting to get more range is how fires start, If i bring any lithium batteries under their shut off voltage it goes in the bin
@@Ben1551 Well, actually they only may set on fire if you then charge it again, but the risk is not that high.
@@valentin0000 you're not wrong, as long as they are under 2.5v or something the dendrites will grow but yeah if it's been 5 minutes it's not a problem
Amazing! Even Caractacus Potts would be jealous!
Its looking really good Tim and the fun lement must be off the scale!
What a formula! I watched, I listened and a smile simply grew on my face. Well done all crew members. Thank you 😀
I find your videos as amusing as ai do informitive. You hace some really great ideas along with the knowledge and patience to see things thru. Hats off to you Tim. Follow your dreams.
probably a silly suggestion, get a second powered wheel, put the two electric motors on the front, and you have all wheel drive when pedaling. :)
Wooden cars are the future. ❤
Seeing you bomb around in that thing makes me so happy!
My wife and I have both a trike (the wife's) and a 2 wheeled bike (mine) that use kits (front hub motors) that are different brands but both are almost identical to this kit.
Regenerative braking is an option in both of them.
You actually have the ability (in the menu system) to set the amount of braking force.
I have the trike set to 2.
My wife is a little more conservative than I.
I have my 2 wheeled bike set to 3.
I really don't want to lock the front wheel up with regenerative braking.
I was not able to use the supplied brake levers on my 2 wheeler because my gear shifting is incorporated to the brake levers, so I purchaed a electric horn button and mounted that to the handlebars and connected it to the electric part of the brake circuit.
This means regenerative braking on my bike is not actually related to the hand controls for the brakes.
As for the tiny instruction book, I downloaded the pdf from the manufacturers website on the internet and then printed it scaled up to 150% or something so that its 2 pages to an A4 sheet.
Makes it easy to read.
Unfortunately the Yose power does not have the regenerative brake. what is the brand of your kit ?
@@tme2912 RUclips will not allow me to name names.
Thanks Paul - interesting. I'm sure you could find a way to tell us the name?
You should make you a trailer to carry shopping but make it a pusher trailer. Another motor and bigger battery.. Good job. Good luck
Since the motor is in the hub and a chain is not necessary to use it, the car could potentially be converted into a three-wheel drive. The chain could be kept on the rear wheel so that it would still technically be a motor assisted peddle car.
Superb piece of kit. Wish I had had one when building carts at school in the fifties.
Another thought \ opinion: Even though there is no debate that 4 wheels offer improved stability and performance, My honest opinion is the boat tail design is beautiful even in its current "testing phase". Another argument in favor of the boat tail design is it is more energy efficient to help with battery life. Fewer wheels means less rolling resistance and less rotational mass. Also the boat tail design is more aerodynamic.
'Nother thing to think about if you have four wheels, either you'll only power one wheel, or you have to have both wheels on an axle locked which increases tire wear since the wheels can't turn at their own speeds. Unless you can figure out a differential system for it
I've used Voilamarts on my trikes for years. They run pretty quiet and have the power. Only complaint i have is the wiring harness for the wheel connects at the control box rather than close to the wheel. so if you have to do maintenance you have to pretty pull most of the cable you ran to get it off and service.
Glad to see a manufacturer providing product for you to demonstrate. You haven't a lot of subscribers (by RUclips standards) but I bet every one of them (us) is within the Yose 'market'. Well done Yose! Kudos also for providing such a complete kit!
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Great build! You can buy inexpensive DC to DC converters for 48 volts to 12 volts, or 48 volts to 5 volts. I have the 5 volt DC to DC version on my ebike, and use a plug in USB light as headlight and taillight. I think you might not even need to open up your battery or splice into the wires- test with a voltmeter your charge port. I think it has the 48 volts active at the port, just install a plug and switch .
Interesting idea - thanks. I'll investigate..
Out of the shed and full throttle round the tree. Tim McRae 👍
Great to see it all come together. :)
Oooh that is just amazing. Also one could make it out of plastic but to make it from wood is very green indeed.
Well that was lots of fun just to watch, my experience making entertaining stuff gives me an idea of how much fun it was to do. Loud applause!
My bike rusted in place, found out when got out to give to my brother to us so no bike for me. Yet know I want a bike so I can buy one of those kits. Electric bike mod's for a push bike seems such a great idea!
My bike, "Giant" brand, has an aluminum frame.
Maybe something to consider?
just needs one of them old 5 trumpet air horns now
Excellent Progress you guy's! I own an electric bicycle and it has both twist grip throttle (Limited to the max legal 15.5mph / 25kph) and selectable degree's of peddle assist from 1 to 5 also limited to the same 15.5 mph. What it also has which I LOVE, is without peddling it has a 4mph / 6kph walking mode when the throttle is applied, which I find gives me enough momentum to keep me stable whilst I push off and swing my leg over, and also assistance pulling away at lights effectively eliminating the LAG that you mentioned before the sensor detects peddle movement, a GREAT feature. It also of course has road lights front and back, but, what I would also like to do is add a double USB power point, to charge my 'SATMAP' unit and Phone, or, when in use video Bar Cam. for this reason I'll be watching very closely your further progress to see how you achieve power for your lights if not by using an extra Motorcycle battery. The very best of wishes with your Super Car Project.
PS: I'm 75 and this bike has changed my life! It was bought at the end of July this year "little used" with 80miles on the odometer, which I zeroed. And in spite of the crap weather we've had in the UK, today I hit the 240miles mark on the odometer by going out on 10 - 16ml local circular journey's so that I'm not too far from home. The car is barely used. LOL
Now you know why recumbent e-trikes are popular. They are a blast to ride. I’m 79 and ride mine almost every day. Your car gives people a way to build a trike so you can have one without having to spend an “arm and a leg”.
I think it could use music! Crash helmet on, safety squints engaged! Looks like fun but be careful, it only takes one serious smack on the noggin to put an end to the fun forever.
Looks like you had a lot of fun!
I like the Fred Flintstone style reverse gear
I like the Fred Flintstone reverse gear lol
Best bit of R&D is trying things out along the way, especially when they are fun. Seams like they are a good company to buy from, especially as they appear to over provide which is always useful. 👍 Was that one car a traffic jam, my cousin used to live in rural Ireland and if they had 2 cars and a tractor going through the village, the would talk about it for weeks calling if a huge traffic jam. 😂🤣😂
Your smiles say it all! Well done for your perseverance.
Nice! I went through this experience 8 years ago with a 2kW golden motor MP5, and it's still running great. It's like upgrading your legs to couple of athletes!
I recommend using torque arms on the axle so lock it in place and make sure it doesn't spin and eat the dropouts, and make sure the axle nuts are very tight.
And now I want to build myself one too.
GREAT !!! What next Tim ? A space rocket maybe ? Powered by steam !!!! now that'll be a novelty :)
Now that looks fun.
You seem to have made now a wooden Sinclair C5
tim its coming along nicely and perhaps dual front hub motors will be a future upgrade. i still feel there is a lack of rigidity in key areas ...did i see the plywood flexing as you inserted the rear wheel? i also have reservations with plywood in your climate even marine plywood dislikes continuous change of moisture levels and i suspect it will require encapsulation in epoxy or similar material to keep it from delineating. hows the frame flex under way? slight adjustment to steering proportions would give a tighter turning radius but it is serviceable as is... then the aesthetics and styling lol thanks for the videos looking forward to more
thank you. Yes, there's still some flex - but that should lessen when the body is joined up properly, and the plan all along is to epoxy the ply
There was back in the day little light kits you could get for bycicles that had a dynamo that attached to the frame and ran against the tire to power it, might still be available
The car is looking good.
Continued enjoyment of watching this series on your pedal car. Thanks.
I think once you got the geometries fixed in place I might build one. Probably out of steel and with a roof, windows and even a heater. Would be perfect to drive to work with.
Dang straight !!! Now thats sweet , You might want a second battery just in case and solar panels and Radio and wipers and mirrors ! lol. Ya know your going to have to make your wife one now only make a station wagon ! LOL. I can see it now an all wheeled powered 3 wheel station wagon and pickup truck !
for light's why not use a makita 18v battery you can buy the adapter for it online & it's fairly cheap
Just a thought, both front wheels powered, rear wheel powered in Reverse. Probably not road legal but great fun.
A delicious episode. Looking forward for a more detailed test of the wheel, max speed, video from the cockpit, and autonomy, thank you!
Nice one bro all that effort paid off. I guess you could run lights off an old dynamo mounted on one of the front wheels somehow incorporated with a mudguard. Mix old with new. Safe travels. Ken.
Awesome to see how well this project is going!
Love it when a plan comes together!
How wonderful you guys did it. I did have my doubts at first as I sure you did but no you have built it.
I'm so excited for you! I've been daydreaming about building a neighborhood electric vehicle styled after the Brass Era cars/buggies but I just don't quite have the time and shop skills yet
Go for it, Kimberly!
Kudos.
Your coolest project ever.
Frank
Abso-bloody-lutely briliant!!! 👍 😄
Mr. Toad:
Gad! What is it?
Cyril Proudbottom:
Lumme, Guv'nor! It's a motorcar.
Mr. Toad:
Motorcar?
[the motorcar passes by, knocking the cart over and leaving Toad on the ground]
Mr. Toad:
A motorcar. Gad! What have I been missing.
[Starts making car noises]
Toot toot! Where's the horn?
sorry to potentially add to the list front brakes first but the 2nd battery for the lighting could be set up with flexible solar panels there's plenty of space on the body for a few and a tiny solar charge controller.
for a velomobile pug you need to cut a radiator grille out of plywood, something old school, like Bugatti Type 35
This is what Sir Clive Sinclair was trying to acheive.
Brilliant! Well done Tim 👍
Many thanks!
Amazing, I admire all the skill, brilliant projects and imagination.
I have the same kit on my bike.
I managed to remove the cover of the motor controller and solder 2 wires on the battery + and -, to use for lighting.
However yose power should consider making an easy way to connect lights. The screen can already control lights.
Thank you for your feedback! We're glad to hear you were able to successfully install the lighting system. Your suggestion is valuable, and we will consider adding an easier way to connect lights in future products. We appreciate your support and valuable input!
This little petal assisted, 3 wheel, completely legal wooden car is coming along splendidly. Amazing work!! It looks like an absolute blast to operate.
Wow. Impressive little beast!
Fun fact. In the UK, Bicicles do NOT have to abide by the speed limit, because they don't count as a motor vehicle. This is why they don't need speedo's despite experienced cyclists being capable of 35mph on the flat.
I think this is going to become increasingly used to avoid the 20mph speed restrictions being introduced in towns
Same in Ontario. Nearly all road rules are for "vehicles" (including bicycles) but speed limits are specifically for "motor vehicles".
In the Netherlands, there is also no speed limit, but there is a limit to the speed at which the motor of a pedelec assists. Above that, it shuts down. Bet that's the same in the UK and exactly what was mentioned here in the video.
@@IvoTichelaar We have that as well in Ontario. You can't have assist above 32 km/h. In my opinion that cutoff speed is too fast, considering the vehicles are classified as a pedal cycle. I think the 25 km/h limit for pedal assist which applies in the Netherlands is more reasonable. In NL you can also have a pedal assist up to 45 km/h, but then it no longer qualifies as a pedal cycle, but rather a speed-pedelec, which is a similar category to a bromfiets.
@@OntarioTrafficMan my wife has a speed pedelec. It's great outside of the city. To be honest, 25km/h is already too much in a town or city, because you are cycling amongst non-pedelec bicycles. There are tight corners, speed bumps, other cyclists to evade and overtake. And we commute on our bicycles, we don't want to arrive all sweaty and dressed in Spandex. So the average speed is 15-20 km/h and it's much more efficient and pleasant to go with that flow. But I do enjoy my pedelec when there is a stiff wind, or when I have two kids on my cargobike. ;-)
This is brilliant, what a fantastic bit of kit! Well done for persevering with your car!
What a great project. I enjoyed it
That looks like fun, and pretty cool too!!! Good job Tim, and crew ofcourse!
You can fit a reverse switch if its not included in the kit, by just reversing any 2 of the 3 wires to the motor.
How fabulous. What great fun! I am looking at doing a conversion on my bike and am really looking forward to it. 😊🏆
That looks like great fun!!!
Great video. I'd recommend a safety stop to cut all power in case there's some sort of emergency.
Here in London, ebikes that do 25mph and have twist grip throttles are very common, despite being strictly against the law. I have one myself and nobody bats an eyelid at it because it just looks like a bicycle. They're the staple equipment of Deliveroo riders too. The unfortunate truth is that a wooden car operating on the same principles is probably much more likely to attract attention though, which is a pity as it's arguably safer than a bike.
Well done Tim, and Will. So the Sinclair C5 was a good idea after all, just (as often is) ahead of its time, and the available technology. Hmm. Les in UK
Superb job Tim 😀😀😃
You can also look for a DC-DC converter to reduce the 36V down to 12V for lights.
You are having a lot of fun. Well done. Very nice kit.
Some old motorcycle headlamps would fit perfectly. With high and low beam.
Agreed on the DC-DC converter.
Might also be able to wire three 12V lights in series to avoid a converter.
Thanks Tim 😊
DId you ever look into a mid drive set up you can use it with same gears your find on a mountain bike to get more out of your motor than you would with a hub drive since you can down shift or upshift depending on your needs rather than using the fixed gear ratio of the hub drive
Love it Tim! Keep up the good work
Congratulations!
You can solve the issue of current supply by installing a voltage regulator. Its very easy to fins lots of them online. 12V lets you use automotive parts but 6v is the common voltage for bicycles.
Getting chitty chitty bang bang vibes here 😂
Brilliant 😊
Hi all, love it, many thanks from Nr Chester.
I saw a similar vehicle in Conway, New Hampshire, USA last week. It looked to be fiberglass, and the driver was enclosed. NOTE: It was so low to the ground, that I looked right over the top and almost didn't see him from my van. He was much lower to the ground than a regular bicyclist would be. Bright colors suggested!
A little flag on a pole works too
It's called a velomobile and they are designed for aerodynamics rather than practical use. Very impressive performance from them, though.