Install DOS Within Minutes with Mouse, CD-ROM, Sound and more
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- I put together this MS-DOS Boot Disk. Within minutes, you will have your hard drive partitioned, formatted and made bootable. Followed by installing DOS files, drivers and installing a boot menu, CD-ROM support, a choice of 4 mouse drivers and initialising various sound cards: www.philscomputerlab.com/dos-...
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Need this video 30 years ago bro, send it by fax
😂
Wish me downloading it on 56k modem
LMAO
Me too. I want to download it with my 14.4 Kbps modem. :-)
You'll need a DeLorean.
You’ve made some excellent tools that have become the standard for the retro gaming community, especially DOSBENCH which you see in a lot of retro gaming videos from across the creator space. Thank you, Phil.
Thank you! I heard CHKCPU got updated! Will need to check it out and release a new version of DOSBENCH 😋
There's also "MTRRLFBE ver. 1.6" from 2021, your pack comes with 1.3 from 2011 @@philscomputerlab and there are still files you can delete, like the "Thumbs.db" you accidentally added to the SPEEDSYS folder in the latest version. Cheers.
@@philscomputerlab Please make a video on how to enable USB support in DOS and use USB devices like a USB mouse, keyboard, and memory stick/HDD.
Je*us, Phil! You reminded me about my school age and lessons of computer science we had. We used to practice DOS commands and were using the floppy disks also. Once, I remember, I've copied Win 3.11 from a school computer to several floppys and later I've installed it at my private PC at home. My teatcher had to loose a few minutes of her brake waiting for me to steal... oh I'm sorry, to finish copying files. That s mid-nineties in Poland. Great times:)
Dear Phil,
I live in the Netherlands and I have been following you for a long time. I am also a fan of old MS-Dos computers.
I loved the MS-Dos diskette you designed with the quick way to set up an old PC. Because I use the Dutch version of MS-Dos, I converted the diskette to Dutch. I hope you don't find this a problem. If I (sporadically) meet someone who also has this hobby, I hope you will not mind giving him a copy. I will always mention you as the source.
Kind regards, Gerard vd Crommenacker.
That is awesome! Thank you for sharing and spread the love for this hobby!
A boot floppy was a MUST in those days. With Phil's new disk here, it's just a continued refinement of a essential tool. Thanks Phil!
I built my 1st Retro PC by following your videos. With all that you do, you are a true asset to this community. Thank you Phil ❤
I had one of these myself in pre-XP days. Full of tools like XCOPY32 and stuff too. Somehow it's stayed with me through all sorts of hard drive failures, loss of computer, accidental deletions. It still comes in useful from time to time.
I have a similar go-to boot disk for setting up new (to me) drives for dos/win 3x. Super handy for the toolkit, though mine is a little more 'bare bones'. When I set it up originally a couple years ago I had to remember / double check all those steps you put in that readme...so that was a thoughtful inclusion!
I was able to get Falcon 3 up and running in a few minutes with this.
Very cool.
I love these kinds of videos. Helping people get up and running quickly with DOS and the like to get people less versed or a bit rusty up and going.
Thanks for the excellent content as usual Phil!
Ahh. Good times when people created his own DOS menus using .BAT files and code labels.
Nice video!
Thanks. Will dig up the old Slot 1 machine from the storeroom now.
Very nice and useful for somebody like me who is an oldbie but is now into mid to late '90s to mid '00s retro PCs. A tool like this DOS boot disk among the many you have provided here and in your page are really useful and convenient. And very nice to see a CRT is making an appearance in this channel, not sure if you have featured them already in your older videos.
Had a MS-DOS bootdisk with CD-ROM drivers and a CD-ROM that contained a fully installed MS-DOS with drivers, autoexec.bat and config.sys with bootmenu.
Booted from the bootdisk, "fdisked" and formatted the the new HDD/cf card and just copied all files from the CD-ROM over to the now partitioned and formatted disk/card. A fully running system after less then 10 minutes. :)
This is the way 😀
Awesome, you continue to be one of the greatest resources in the retro community, fantastic sir.
Wow, thanks!
I made a disk like this a few months back. It has helped me out so much. Pop the disk in and install in minutes!
this worked great for my 4 GB CF to IDE on my VLB 486 with a ESS ES1868F Audiodrive and Cirrus Logic GD5428
Very handy! Thanks so much for making tools like this for the community
Oh man, this is great! I have a '95 box with a P200 in it that is becoming increasingly redundant (I mainly use it for DOS games as I have a more powerful '98 box for Windows games). Due to weird compatibility issues with a bunch of DOS games in Windows '95, I have been thinking about just turning it into a pure DOS machine for a while now. However, I've never done that and so was confused on things like drivers and whatnot. I think this boot disk will help tremendously and I'll likely give it a try soon. Thanks!
What games have issues with DOS 7 that is part of 95? Do you boot into MS-DOS mode or run them from within windows?
@@philscomputerlab Oh, there's a ton. But some off the top of my head include Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Virtuoso, Shockwave, etc. I generally prefer to run from Windows for ease of use, but lately I've tried booting straight into DOS and I have the same issues.
@@GameplayandTalk Hmm I've never tried these games but DOS mode is extremely compatible I'm surprised you are having so many issues.
This disk would of been great back in the 90s Phil.Great work mate.You even tought me a thing or two mate.Cheers from Turkey .
Thank you for your tools, Phil! A few years ago, you made videos showing how to set up DOS drivers for SoundBlaster cards (vibra, 16, awe32 etc.). I remember that the process was a bit tedious, since you have to extract and copy files from multiple sources, create specific folders. Maybe you could put together a similar, easy to use package for those Creative sound cards as well, if you get the chance? Unless Unisound is perfectly fine and has all the features, like sound mixer, echo/reverb control for AWE etc.
AFAIK Unisound does have all these features!
Great job as always Phils!
Thanks a lot.
Oh this will come in handy! Nice work!
Superb! Thanks for putting this up!
Very cool Phil! Really needed this disk for playing Inferno from disc...:)
Excelent, just the necessary DOS files to boot and launch games. Thank you very much Phil.
I can still never remember the difference between expanded and extended. Will definitely give this a shot next time, thanks for the video.
Yea. Same here. Never understood it either.
Himem.sys = XMS extended
Emm386.exe = EMS expanded
Personaly i like to use the 16 bit BIG real mode (like himem.sys with Intel/AMD 80386+).
Default segment size of 16 bit Real address mode (DOS) is 64 kb for all segment like code, stack, data.
Undocumented 16 bit BIG real mode segment size of 4 gb for data segment, but 64 kb for code and stack.
EMS = Expanded memory with use of a 16 kB window in the upper memoy area using bank switching
XMS = eXtended Memory, this uses the memory beyond the first megabyte of RAM directly, but it's more difficult to programming software to utilise that memory.
Before emm386, EMS was mostly provided through memory expander cards, like the intel above board, but these solutions didn't follow the LIM (Lotus, IBM, Microsoft) EMS standard, and each card has needed it's own drivers and the Software needs to support that driver, else you'll stick with the conventional memory. Emm386.exe uses an emulation layer to provide an amount of extended memory as EMS memory, but it needs at least a 386 CPU. But there were some motherboards with the famous NEAT chipset around, which was able to map some higher memory to the EMS memory space. It has needed some special drivers, which were available for 286 or 386 CPUs.
Thanks for sharing this! You do amazing work for the community.
Brilliant. I will definitely be using this
Another great time saving project from you!
We love u Phil! Thank you so much for being awesome, the retro community is in debt :D
Well I better get this downloaded. Excellent work!
Just wanted to say thank you so much for making these videos!
They are very nostalgic, enjoyable and useful
So cool. This used to take me an hour as I had to figure it out each time for a new system. Gonna be straightforward now. Thanks.
Awesome. You are at your best with MS DOS era content.
Wow, thanks!
Happy Halloween Phil!
The great tool / resource creator is back! My respects.
Love the TPG branding on the monitor :D
Wonderful! I have a 486 I've that's been sitting around waiting for me to set it up. This should work on it nicely!
Thank you, Phil!!! You're the best.
I like that video because this more easy fast install with DOS.
Thank you so much. Keep go!! Good job!
Thanks Phil, you're a legend!
Excellent video, very useful disc to have
Super deal Phil ! You are already a legend in the retro world :) Thanks for another great tool. Greetings from Poland
Wow, thanks!
Phil's stuff is as always great. I need to make a proper label for this.
Excellent Work! Also, Volkov Commander would be a nice addition to the installer.
Good call!
I totally need that floppy disk in my pcem emulator.
Thank you.
This is exactly what I need!
Very nice! Thank You!❤
Thank you again. My own bootdisk looks similar, but I finalized mine with additional more free conventional memory configuration. Danke :)
Holy dooley, Phil has a Crt! Nice!!
That's awesome, I'm taking it you're not loading your drivers into the upper memory block for compatibility reasons but it triggers my OCD seeing drivers casually loaded into conventional memory! I know it's a pretty barebones system with minimal drivers but some (in my opinion badly written) mouse drivers can use up to 100k so sticking it in the umb really helps for games that want 520k or more conventional memory.
LH does this! Stands for Load High.
I have something similar, and included the iomega zipdisk drivers so i could hookup an parallel zip drive for larger file transfers!
Nice. You may want to use 4DOS if you want a simple batch based interactive installation menu though.
4DOS is also good for auto completion and history in the command line.
Nice, that's somethin' I would use in the future, I don't know when Exactly, but I will download it to play with it when I'm in a mood for it! 😀
That's a beautiful CRT!
Thank you! As luck would have it this is gonna come in handy right now! =D
Will be very useful.
Amazing video
Loving the CRT 🙂
Nice - and thanks!
Now this is going to be great for the ao486 core on the mister.
Awesome Dude, thank you so much.
I think I hear my Pentium Industrial PC jumping for joy!
This is a great resource and as always THANK YOU Phil for all your content on this hobby. Every video is a treat.
Also I think shutter speed on some cameras can be adjusted when filming old CRT monitors to get it to sync up with the refresh rate to avoid the flickering / out of sync visual noice.
Yea mine isn't fancy enough 🤣
It's difficult for most cameras, to set the correct shutter speed on non-60-Hz frequency screens. For that problem there exists a TSR program VGA240.EXE, which forces the text mode to 60 Hz, which is compatible to the most cameras, which are unable to set their framerate to fractional refresh rates like 70 Hz text mode.
Cool, jetzt mit CRT Monitor, klasse ! Habe auch noch zwei Monochrome Geräte im Keller. Eins mit MDA für einen 286 mit 8 MHz und dann einen Camping CRT mit SVGA Schnittstelle aber halt Schwarz Weiß und mini klein. Ansonsten habe ich aber keine mehr hier, haben mir zuviel Platz weg genommen.
Ich habe schon seit 10+ Jahren keinen CRT mehr gesehen. Also in Geschäften, Büros, Schulen u.s.w. Ich habe nur diesen und wenn der eingeht, dann wirds teuer 😐
Not a bad thing to keep on a Gotek drive. Thanks!
great job, it will save a lot of time👌
Cool! Downloading....
I like to make tiny executable files for DOS or DosBox. And i made some videos(no speech) to show how it works and to share the files. I put all instructions into batch filex to make it open source. Have fun.😊
Thanks for sharing!
I have something similar like this setup for my 386SX notebook. Mainly to get as much conventional memory but also to switch video modes for the Cyrus Logic chip. In Windows I preferred the default "light mode" and in DOS I preferred the "dark mode". This was because it had an LCD display. But LCD meant something different in 1992. It meant Liquid Crystal Display. Or monochrome essentially reversed. Still have the old notebook! The MS MOUSE.EXE driver is great, but if you don't need scroll or fancy office things, the regular mouse driver works ok and uses a bit less memory.
Great video
I love the TPG monitor
Had a boot disk and I made one every time I installed 98 lol. Always had some flavor of windows running and never had any real major issues. Figured out the sound compatibility by just telling every game it was a sound blaster compatible. Though some games I'd configure it to gravis for midi music and seemed to work
Nice!. I can boot it by adding it to my Easy2Boot USB drive too.
Yes!
Great video man! I really love these videos about retro pc. UNISOUND has to be started with /vcXX command (for ex. /vc50). Default will mute the audio cd.
Well spotted, I might change it actually!
very nice!
The most powerfull DOS command is Debug.
Debug from MS DOS provide 16 bit instructions, but there is an other Debug version that works similar and it provides 16 bit and additional 32 bit instructions for 80386+ CPU in DOS.
The only one difference between 32 bit and 16 bit on 80386+ is the usage of instructions with or without address size and operand size prefixe. That means in 16 bit protected mode on 80386+ we can address 4 gb of memory with using instructions with an address size prefix.
In the 16 bit Real address mode(of MS DOS) we can use 32 bit operands with instructions and an operand size prefix. But the segment size is 64 kb for all segments.
Saving this for tonight in bed, looking forward to see what you've created. Already downloaded the image file 😀
Hope it works for you :D
Any feedback? I fixed up a few little things, the image file was already updated though...
I got a very cheap and clunky 286 laptop for uni. Was mainly to use for wordperfect. I vaguely remember getting sid Meier's pirates for it!
A perfect video Phil! Now if you are ever up for it, it would be really cool to see the exact same thing, except with sbemu instead of unisound, so you could do this also for modern pcs.
Sbemu just never worked for me so passing ..
@@philscomputerlab that’s a shame but totally understandable as I had to try 3 different memory managers before I could get a stable result 😅 himemx was the winner
I remember having to do up a boot menu to get Ultima VII to run back in the day.
Did it inspire from my boot disk? Nice...
Loved DR-Dos 5, it had a GUI for file management.
I was just thinking in my head if Phil has ever tried out DR-DOS or made a comparison of it to the IBM DOS. I've always like DR-DOS, but have not been dedicated to any particular flavor of DOS personally.
I haven't!
You mean probably ViewMAX, this was a crippled version of GEM, just for file management, it cannot run GEM apps, it was only designed to run DOS applications, but in a more convenient way like Norton Commander, the much better tool for file management and launching DOS apps.
VERY COOL as always, will there be audio drivers added later like DOSSound?
BTW Is that AMD 386DX fine without heatsink on?
Yes doesn't need a heatsink. UNISOUND initialises many ISA sound cards.
Thanks
Thank you!
I am soo goin to use this on my 386
I made something like this, but with two floppies and for windows 95 98 computers for customers. once booted on it's own, xcopy cab files over to install fro hard disk. this way is customer makes changes like add/remove or networking ones the cab files are there without digging for a cd.
... still have those floppies, lol! looks like I gotta update them with newer drivers ...
I’ll give this a whirl soon!
Bonus Tuesday!
Intresting and worth checking out. Is the Unisound project just for ISA based soundcards or does it support PCI?
It's for ISA!
Love this!
I have been working on something similar, but using Windows 98SE DOS and SBEMU.
My attempts have been more focused on more modern PCs and dual booting with Windows XP.
XP detects Windows 98SE DOS, but not DOS 6.22 in my experience.
I also added gcdrom.sys for SATA CD-Roms.
And it's a bootable USB/HDD Install Image.
But I don't have the boot menu or the optional mouse drivers.
Unisound as an alternative is also interesting.
I still didn't have much luck with SBEMU...
@@philscomputerlab You need to go all @miketech1024 on this problem and buy a job lot of Windows XP/7 PCs and do a full SBEMU test! 😆
But more seriously, I am a bit surprised it's worked so poorly for you. But maybe I just have way to many PCs from that era to test on 😛
This sounds interesting. Have you realeased it or is it still a work in progress?
This is a timely comment for me - would you mind posting your exact lines in the config and autoexec files for loading gcdrom? I was trying just yesterday to initialize drivers for a SATA cd drom in DOS and am having no luck thus far.
@@retro-computing-gaming
Here are the relevant parts for the CD-ROM drivers from each file.
### AUTOEXEC.BAT ###
rem Windows 98SE CD-Rom Driver
LH C:\CDROM\MSCDEX.EXE /D:oemcd001 /D:GCDROM /L:D
set CDROM=FOO23
C:\CDROM\FINDCD.EXE
echo.
rem Populate PATHS
path=C:\
rem Add CD-ROM to PATH if detectable
if NOT "%CDROM%"=="FOO23" path=%path%;%CDROM%\
###################
### CONFIG.SYS ###
rem Windows 98SE CD-ROM Driver
device=C:\CDROM\oakcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=C:\CDROM\btdosm.sys
device=C:\CDROM\flashpt.sys
device=C:\CDROM\btcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=C:\CDROM\aspi2dos.sys
device=C:\CDROM\aspi8dos.sys
device=C:\CDROM\aspi4dos.sys
device=C:\CDROM\aspi8u2.sys
device=C:\CDROM\aspicd.sys /D:oemcd001
rem SATA CD-ROM Driver
DEVICE=C:\CDROM\GCDROM.SYS /D:GCDROM
###################
DOS from a single floppy?! Wow!
What is your experience between unisound and sbemu in terms of functionality? Do you find one more compatible than the other? Have you considered using sbemu as a sound option? Thanks as always for your awesome retro gaming tools!
The projects couldn't be more different!
one of these years i need to find the dos boot disk i made specifically for recovery and initial setup of older machines. it spent years as part of my main kit. should be someplace with my first gen dell usb floppy drive.
oh well. i have a spare floppy, so i'll dump this one to hard copy. i don't feel like trying to rebuild my old one.
cheers.
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Hey Phil, this is very good. Would like to ultimately do what you did. If I download Rufus and then copy my copy of msdos 6.2 onto a flash drive, do you think it will work?
good to see you use floppys and not that cursed unholy gotek ;)
Actually, I did use the Gotek 😂
@@philscomputerlab since moving to flash hardrives my floppy is the only thing that reminds of the original seeking sounds ;)
Every time I watch a video in which someone utilize fdisk I remember that I want to learn how to automate it but always give up before finding out how it is done 😂
For my life I can't remember where the heck I watch that thing go full auto.
Full auto would have made some assumptions like wiping the entire drive and then creating 2 GB partition. But then most 386 only support 504MB...
@@philscomputerlab I can't recall some details, like if there was any utility hidden detecting the size of the hard drive, the thing is that your approach looks like the perfect balance between manual input and automation, at least to set up and test my small collection of parts
So another must have utility added to the collection, thanks again Phil!
That's a good way of putting it, I want the heavy lifting to be done with a few touches by hand to adjust to whatever computer you're working with!@@RetroTinkerer
Hi Phil, please what is the website where you upload undocumented BIOS-es or images of HDD-s of rare computers.? I have a Dauphin DTR-1 with some aps i would like to wipe after and what app do you use for making a image of HDD-s. Also have many MB-s .Thanks