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So I have been using mine for the past few months and it had been a life saver. I got used to the electronic reverse switch so it’s second nature now. The only negative is that other than the Chuck and quick connect drill bits don’t stay in the tool and you have to pull them out manually from the work piece. Really a pain in the ass.
Two things - 1- I never place tools directly on a finished surface just in case of the issue you demonstrated. I have made it a practice to use cardboard, towels, drop cloths, or even instruction sheets under my tools. Since the advent of the belt hook, this practice became necessary. 2 - I plan to buy this tool and 3D print a wing or even just build one! Great video!
For those of you guys watching right now: there is a solution to the stability problem, its called a Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver ...FYI.👍🏻
@@spaguru Its a 3D printed addon, you're best bet is to google "Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver" and you'll find a few varying options.
I haven't read the comments yet but my solution for the tool falling over was to use a 6 amp battery that has a wider base. Great video. Never mind on my solution. I just saw it tip forward now, lol.
55 years of using drills, hell I used to run screws with a brace &/or Yankee. Got one of these yesterday and 1- at 67 I appreciate a light tool, 2- had no problem running the reverse one handed, 3- great to get back to the D style.
Picked one of these up in store today and loved the feel and features of it. Was able to place the attachments on and remove them in store, compared to the Bosch multi head drill I own the process was a lot smoother and felt like it was far better designed. Absolutely loved the offset 1/4 in head. Came back to watch some reviews and just came across your video, I didn't even realise it in store but your point about the electric forward and reverse switch on top is such a disappointing deal breaker for me! Not only for the inconvenience of it, but because an electric push button switch is going to fail far sooner than a mechanical! The base I could have lived with or even modified, the switching not so much. Thanks for the review, appreciate it!
I've been in the woodworking business for 40 years. I just had to install four sets of kitchen for a multi-family. I found this drill kitand the Bessie face frame clamps I bought with the drill was the best tool investment I've made in the last 20 years. I've got to watch your video and see what your deal breaker is , I think this is one of the best design tools I've ever used. probably that micro switch won't last 20 years like a lot of the cordless Makita tools I still have that are 25 and even 30 years old. But all in all I'd say it's a fantastic tool if you're doing installs saves a lot of time switching bits of screwing around and getting into a corner has never been so easy 👍
conantdog that’s awesome glad you’re loving the new drill! I enjoy using it in my garage/shop. For instals I prefer the Makita Subcompact set and the Festool CSX.
Thanks for this review mate! I was torn between entering the m12 system with the screwdriver or the impact while also having my Makitas by my side but then found out this exists - I think this could cover all the bases if I needed to help a mate for a day or something. Bummer indeed about the reverse being on top but outside of that a versatile tool! Cheers!
Are you kiding me? Deal breaker is it tips over? The first thing ever taught to me about finish work is cover the area your working on so your tools wont hurt things and NEVER - EVER - IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, STAND YOUR DRILL UP, it is always laid down, so it will not fall or get knocked over. If I found someone on any of my jobs with thier drill standing up with a bit in it, on open finished floor, counter tops, inside a cabinet, etc, they'd get one chance to learn, or be writen up. I thank you for the tool review ✌️
I love the way the fwd/reverse controls are laid out on this tool. I'm constantly nudging the directional push button on my cordless drills with the web of my hand when I least desire to, so this is a welcome improvement as far as I'm concerned. As far as not being "stable" when stood upright, well...I never stand my cordless tools upright on surfaces I care about anyway, so that is definitely not an issue for me.
Was looking for someone to say that about the direction switch... I didn’t know this had the direction switch on the top and personally I love it. I’m especially bad about bumping my direction switch on my M12 driver while I’m using it for some reason, happens all the time, and this will fix that. Yes, I know, I’m probably holding it wrong lol.
I've heard people say that one good reason to use a 12 volt tool is because they don't stand up. if you have a drill bit in a 12-volt tool and you brush it it's going to fall over and possibly ruin something so laying them down maybe a better practice anyways, as long as you don't lay it on the side with the belt hook
Thanks for the review! Here’s mine: So I’ve bought one and have been using it for 2 weeks as a cabinet guy. It’s a great tool with some serious flaws. The reverse/forward button is in such an awkward spot. Plus it does this strange thing. If you have it in fwd, set it down and pick it up a few min later and then attempt to change the direction it only activates the feature and then you have to press it again. I know that’s confusing. It’s also confusing in real life. But ultimately it’s a very good tool. I use it for its attachments and even as my driver for using my hole saws. But it’s not my daily driver. Another plus is that it has opened up the m12 world to me. And the m12 oscillating tool is unbelievably good. Thanks for the review!
i'm left handed and i dont understand this comment. The reverse button is not "just right the trigger", it's both sides.. and it has never been an issue. Left or right handed, everyone needs to press it from both sides.
I have one of these and to be honest his 2 deal breaker gripes are non issues for me, the forward reverse button doesn't cause me any heartburn, the tipping over doesn't both me either because I always lay my drivers down in their side so I don't have to worry about it falling over and damaging the surface or breaking a bit.
@@shanew7361 Not really, the only thing I wish was different is that the chuck on the offset head had a lock so when you use it while drilling a hole it would stay in the chuck instead of staying in whatever you are drilling into. That's a good price, I paid $239 at Home Depot a year ago when they were first released. I hope you enjoy it
I actually like the forward and backwards button, I think it’s great and simple, a pretty neat feature. I’ve always lay my drills/power tools sideways or for this too my favorite is it attached with a clip to your pocket or belt. I prefer it with the tiny m12 battery than the bigger heavier battery, in my opinion I think it’s a great tool.
I love the push button forward reverse I am left handed and I usually put the drill in reverse. The lock also keeps the drill from running when it is stored
Glad you are enjoying the drill David:). Thanks for pointing out the lock button feature- I may or may not have figured that out shortly after I released this review:(
Glad I watched this before purchase. F/R button on top is 100% no go. Like you said, I'm constantly changing directions and anything different would be so awkward. Moving on from this one, but thanks
I've been using one for almost a year now, you get used to the electric switch, but they could have just used dual electric buttons to simulate the physical switch if they wanted to keep it slim. Other than that it's absolutely amazing, I use it 99% of the time with how much power it has. Even mounted a tv with 4 inch 1/2 lag bolts.
@@shanew7361 I've never had a bit fall out of any of the adapters aside from the offset which is only held in magnetically. And of course if you don't use any of the adapters it's also again only held in magnetically. But other than that it's great. I wish they made an impact and hammer drill attachment, then it would basically be the only drill I needed.
I've learned too lay the drill down all the time. No matter how stable it is standing up it inevitably gets knocked over at some point. Usually it winds up dropping on the floor. The festool is the premium installation drill, but the battery platform isn't worth the premium price. I usually just carry a couple m12 drills on me with different bits depending on what I'm doing.
I agree with both of your criticisms. Both are things I could live with, but both are bad design work. That said, tipping forward with the XC batteries is completely unacceptable, glad I haven’t bought one yet. Love my M12 tools, and this one has great promise, but I think I’ll wait for Gen 2
I’ve had the forward/reverse on my m12 fuel hammer drill get pushed in accidentally more in 2 months than 6 years on my DeWalt 20v. This direction button is all about ultimate clearance. As far as standing it up, I learned to always set a drill/driver down on its side after doing a summer with an electrician. It’s just asking for material/project or tool damage.
Thank you for the one of the best reviews I've seen for this tool! I decided to buy one today and used it up in my attic to drill and install some construction lag screws in a very tight space. Worked great, mostly, I just wish the clearance using the right angle attachment could be less. But for a versatile tool, I'm good with that. I came to comment on the tippyness aspect -- it's no problem for me as I will always lay the drill flat. Look, I'm a clumsy DIYer with a couple cordless ryobi cordless drills that are bottom heavy with their batteries. And while I do like to set down those drills in an upright position for the easy grab, I admit that that on more than one occasion I've managed to knock over the ryobi drill and break the bit (a thin one, say 3/32). My corded drills lay flat, I'm good with flat. oh, and the forward/reverse/lock button, I couldn't figure that out in the store but it's just one button. Works for me just fine -- only thing is you need eyes on it to see the direction as opposed to the traditional tactile thing. Keep up the reviews Funny Carpenter and peace from the US.
Nice review. Came across it just AFTER I’ve ordered my drill 🙄. Anyway I’m thinking I won’t find the ‘deal breaker’ to be that, as I’ve never been able to leave my other M12 drills upright and besides, wouldnt/shouldn’t do it even if I could. They always hang off the (excellent) clip or lay flat. Much safer practice for all tools if I’m working on vulnerable surfaces. I’m more concerned about the forward reverse switch but from other reviews it sounds like if you don’t have an immediate strop and send it back then you soon adapt. Besides this won’t be my main driver, but specialist one for awkward spaces. We shall see. But thanks for the clear concise review and lack of unboxing crap! Subscribed!
Thanks for the review. I agree with you. The forward reverse switch is most certainly a deal breaker for me. They keep making these drill/drivers smaller, lighter, and more powerful. All great improvements but the trade off seams the lowest clutch setting is too powerful now for delicate driving. My biggest need is a very low clutch for driving lots of delicate screws. Like a #4 x1/2" piano screw into soft materials. With the clutch in the lowest setting can you pinch it and engage the clutch?
I use it for security camera maintenance work on lifts. Works out great without cracking acrylic domes with too much power. Attaching a lanyard strap on the guard part so it doesn’t fall and hurt anyone. The weight balance isn’t stupid for when I need both hands free and let it hang. No place to set it down when I’m 40 feet up in a plastic tub. The bubble button can be reached with the thumb of my hand holding it. If I couldn’t reach it and had to use another hand it would be unbearable.
That's like exactly what I need it for but my dad whos been a network tech for 20 years keeps telling it aint worth it, hes just old i aint listening to him lmao
@@redneckcommie Mint be the extra heads distracting. I’m deep into hobby woodworking and find the weird head attachments useful there. I only use the impact lock-in connector at work and do switch to my other M12 drill and driver some weeks. It’s a 170 dollar toy ;)
Great review - the tip-over thing could easily be solved if you could pair the larger footprint battery with a wider front foot that matches the height and could be kinda L-shaped and attach from the side where you're not using the belt hook? If you're handy with a 3D printer that's an easy fix, but the customer shouldn't have to do that. It would be good if something like that was included in the kit as it would be a very cheap attachment if it was properly tooled up.
Definitely try it out in store and see what you think. I tried to deal with it for a while but couldn't do it. I gave it to my Dad haven't heard back yet though.
The switch on top is better. I have the M12 Fuel Hammer Drill and Driver. I frequently hit the forward/reverse slide switch with my palm near the base of my index finger. Maybe my hands are just big for the M12 platform, but I think the slide switch should be placed a bit higher. Since it's not, having the button on the top is a good feature.
I wish it had a locking collar on the offset holder and that you could rotate the offset and 90 without pulling them off. A lot of times I need to make small rotational adjustments. Bosch has a better drill for that, but on the other side, it’s less convenient to swap attachments. Still, I think I prefer the easy rotations.
Regarding the last point about tipping, I feel like that's just begging for a 3D printed accessory. It would be pretty easy to design and print something that gives it a wider base without adding much bulk.
Really good review, I’m considering this tool and this has given me a realistic idea of what to expect. In your opinion, is this tool useful for home diy or is it overkill and better suited for professional use?
Tremendous question! Going to expand on this in an upcoming video, but basically if u have other m12 stuff than this drill makes sense as an all round tool for typical DIY. It can pretty much do everything fairly well. If I was starting out a cordless tool collection for just home DIY. I would buy Makita 18v stuff. Their blowers, hedge trimmers trimmers, etc are awesome! My first drill would be the Subcompact drill set with the drill and Impactor. I own that set now and it’s first class. I do own and love some M12 tools, but if I’m choosing only one platform it’s Makita 18v all day long.
I’m already established with the hitachi 18v line and just getting into the m12 and m18 line as a way to supplement my Hitachi 18v tools. I do like the Makita line, but Milwaukee was the only possible choice for me because I really wanted the m18 wet/dry vac. I also pick up the inflator, so the choice to go with milwaukee has been made. My next purchase is either the installation tool or the 5 piece m12 set that comes with a ratchet. Thanks for your opinion!
A foot or a stand that attaches to the magnet tray. And that the "foot" attachment itself has the same style magnet tray so you don't loose that "perk"
The direction switch on my drill easily broke and the problem was chronic. It cost Milwaukee a lot of $ to fix/replace those switches. But...I agree the location is not what we’re used to
I have the Milwaukee and Festool and the Festool never comes out of the box anymore.. I love the milwaukee and I have no problem with the forward and reverse. I do think the Festool has more power.
I guess I missed this in the review but after a few days of use I finally realized the bare tool AND the right angle both will directly accept a 1/4 hex bit, i.e. you won't need the jacobs or driver chuck when in a tight space.
The lack of the traditional forward/release button is 100% a deal breaker for me. The other features are great and I can deal with not being able to stand it up, but I will wait for the next revision with F/R button.
has this been confirmed by milwaukee that they will do this? if so I'd like to wait too, but using my 1/4" milwaukee impact driver to use my 4" holesaw to make a hole for my dryer vent took a while with it constantly bucking. So that 3/8 attachment and smooth drill feature would be great to add to my kit now, I'm sure I can live with the button as it overshadowed by my immediate need for a better solution daily.
@@fabiangomez357 - I haven't been keeping up with tool news so have no idea if Milkwaukee will implement a mechanical F/R/ button. I ended up with a Bosch brushless flexiclick. It worked well, has a traditional F/R button, and is more compact than the Installation driver.
I've learned to like the top switch, I have a habit on my normal drills and drivers of just slightly hitting the forward reverse button and putting it in neutral. Grrr
@@Mantis858585 - okay, that makes sense from that point of view. Inadvertent changes to the drive direction could cause damage to the work surface. Thanks for your input!
I generally put my tools down carefully what I working on marble or finish surfaces and I don't trust to leave them standing up anyways it's an accident waiting to happen when someone walks by you turn to hit it with your elbow I mean really , that's your possible deal breaker the way you may put your tools waiting to fall over and damage your clients materials or break your bit, I suggest moving blankets it is always helped me 👍
conantdog no worries. My Makita and Festool drills sit rock solid on there batteries. When you’re working on cabinet bases drill don’t lay down nicely on a 3.5” rail. Cheers always enjoy talking tools:)
You don’t want to stand any tools up on finished floors or cabinets. You want to have a piece of plywood to lay down and lay your tool on. Or just lay the tool on the pack up bag.
Love that the tool heads are interchangable but hate where they put the forward / reverse button. should have left it where ALL the other drivers have it!!
That big chunk in front of the handle. What is it for? Seems designed to get in the way in confined spaces. Just to hold bits? Better places to put them. Why not try the Bosch? Same attachments, slightly more power, no bit sticking down in front of the handle, and sliding fwd/rev that you like. Doesn't stand up, so it will not fall over. You lay it on its side. (Simples.) If you are working on fine finished surfaces you should be using a tool mat anyway. 'Milwaukee, widen the base'. Why don't you? Better yet, add suction cups.
Austin Galloway that Bosch flexiclick looks sweet. I might have to snag one to review! The Festool csx lacks any power whatsoever, that being said it is one of my favourite tools.
Curious, have you used the Bosch 12V tool? Wondering how the Milwaukee compares to it. BTW, the Bosch doesn't stand up at all and, the battery is a pain to remove.
I'm sorry I can't afford Fastool I got The milwallee For the price and I have batteries already Let's all your thing about the bits can always put the longer Bit in the Milwaukee If I win the lottery then I'll think about getting the festool You keep up with your videos they're entertaining And knowledgeable See you later from Florida and Cheers With a beer
Hey, I can't figure out what "generation" the m12 fuel drill driver and impact driver are currently on now. I'd hate to buy one or a kit and find out the new comes out a month later AND the older one is marked down. Do you know?
Thanks for the review. Those who designed this drill never used it and never worked "in field" - on a construction site or in a workshop. I wish to see how all the fans of this tool will work in tight spaces trying to push reverse button. These white triangles are also impossible to see outdoors in sunlight. Thums up for you. Thums down for the drill.
@@chuckschillingvideos You don't always have a free hand for every task. For my job I often have to position an item with one hand and then use the driver while standing on a ladder. That isn't much of an issue if the screw catches how it should, but sometimes you have to back off and then send it again once or twice. Ultimately I feel the drive selection isn't much of an issue for what I do, but it may be a bigger problem for others. Not everybody uses the same tool in the same capacity and every task has different challenges so most criticisms of a tool from someone who uses them often are valid, you only need experience using tools for different tasks to know that.
I love my M12 Drill Driver...EXCEPT for the fatal design flaw. It needs to be rebuild with better LED lighting...and most important...a SLOWER SPEED. This drill is easily bumped waaaaaaaaay too fast for delicate work.
I am a DYI person so I may miss something , but I really don’t like those magnetic bits, they always seem of come out of the holder and fall on the floor or get stuck on the screw and pull out of the chuck. So I too really like the drill but I don’t understand why the offset chuck uses the magnetic bits while the normal 1/4” chuck uses the locking style. So you need to have two kinds of bits or use the locking style in the magnetic chuck which does not work well. I also don’t like the stability of the drill and the top mounted reverse. Other then that I too am a fan of this drill.
The Funny Carpenter I have looked at the locking collar and I don’t think it would add that much to the diameter of the offset. Plus having a bit come out in a tight quarters would be even more frustrating. For me I would gladly give up the small amount distance to securely hold the bit. It was a vary good review,. I have actually considered to see if I could hack this drill and put some small buttons in parallel with the reverse switch and add buttons down near the trigger on the magnetic bit holder frame where my finger could switch it . You pretty well matched my likes and dislikes. I have been remodeling my kitchen and used this drill a lot. I think there are more likes then dislike, but there are definite areas of improvements.
Got this drill 3 weeks ago, love everything about it BUT ... the forward reverse switch sucks ... its totally not intuitive .. i have the Bosch its great as well but does not fit in the hand like the MW does. Also the Flexiclick has a locking hex holder on the right angle which helps with backing out drill bits as oppose to the magnetic holder on the MW. The forward reverse is a deal breaker for me.
Put this big battery in it and your golden man. Just like the 18v battery has a square base like a traditional drill battery… the m12 big battery has the square base and will weigh it down right. Not a deal breaker it’s a lightweight tool. Put a bottom heavy big battery in it and your good to go
Joey Segreti for my particular use which is mostly: Putting screws into the back of cabinets and attaching handles I prefer the csx. The slightly lower rpm and centrotech chuck make it more precise. That being said the csx is comically underpowered, I’m happy to keep the M12 in my garage with all the chucks sitting on my workbench. Very handy can do almost everything.
I always lay my tools down on a carpet square or two...where are my tools? - always on the square, can they possibly under any circumstances fall over with sharp bit in them - nope, they're laying down...we all work differently.
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So I have been using mine for the past few months and it had been a life saver. I got used to the electronic reverse switch so it’s second nature now. The only negative is that other than the Chuck and quick connect drill bits don’t stay in the tool and you have to pull them out manually from the work piece. Really a pain in the ass.
This guy sounds like the Bob Ross of tools very calming
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Two things - 1- I never place tools directly on a finished surface just in case of the issue you demonstrated. I have made it a practice to use cardboard, towels, drop cloths, or even instruction sheets under my tools. Since the advent of the belt hook, this practice became necessary.
2 - I plan to buy this tool and 3D print a wing or even just build one!
Great video!
I've got a scrap 1/2" thick, 12x12" foam pad i picked up somewhere. I lay down my tools on that.
For those of you guys watching right now: there is a solution to the stability problem, its called a Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver ...FYI.👍🏻
Part number?
@@spaguru Its a 3D printed addon, you're best bet is to google "Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver" and you'll find a few varying options.
How about just use the included belt clip?
Because if you use the belt clip you don't set it down and don't have to play a balancing act for it to stand up right... cuz its hanging on your hip.
Dude. You need to be a bit more energetic. You make me want to fall asleep listening to your lethargic review.
Intuitive, industry specific and practical review. Like Niki Lauda improving Ferrari
I haven't read the comments yet but my solution for the tool falling over was to use a 6 amp battery that has a wider base. Great video. Never mind on my solution. I just saw it tip forward now, lol.
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55 years of using drills, hell I used to run screws with a brace &/or Yankee. Got one of these yesterday and 1- at 67 I appreciate a light tool, 2- had no problem running the reverse one handed, 3- great to get back to the D style.
This is a really good review. Covers everything I need to know. Thanks. And subscribed.
Thanks EJ glad it was helpful:)
Ditto
Picked one of these up in store today and loved the feel and features of it. Was able to place the attachments on and remove them in store, compared to the Bosch multi head drill I own the process was a lot smoother and felt like it was far better designed. Absolutely loved the offset 1/4 in head. Came back to watch some reviews and just came across your video, I didn't even realise it in store but your point about the electric forward and reverse switch on top is such a disappointing deal breaker for me! Not only for the inconvenience of it, but because an electric push button switch is going to fail far sooner than a mechanical! The base I could have lived with or even modified, the switching not so much. Thanks for the review, appreciate it!
I've been in the woodworking business for 40 years.
I just had to install four sets of kitchen for a multi-family.
I found this drill kitand the Bessie face frame clamps I bought with the drill was the best tool investment I've made in the last 20 years.
I've got to watch your video and see what your deal breaker is , I think this is one of the best design tools I've ever used. probably that micro switch won't last 20 years like a lot of the cordless Makita tools I still have that are 25 and even 30 years old.
But all in all I'd say it's a fantastic tool if you're doing installs saves a lot of time switching bits of screwing around and getting into a corner has never been so easy 👍
conantdog that’s awesome glad you’re loving the new drill! I enjoy using it in my garage/shop. For instals I prefer the Makita Subcompact set and the Festool CSX.
Best drill on the market, I have the festool drill and I always go for the Milwaukee !! I’ve been doing custom cabinets for over 34 years.
That’s good to hear, I’m glad you like it!
I like your calm voice. I dont know why, but it's soothing :-D Btw, amazing review on the Drill. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for this review mate! I was torn between entering the m12 system with the screwdriver or the impact while also having my Makitas by my side but then found out this exists - I think this could cover all the bases if I needed to help a mate for a day or something. Bummer indeed about the reverse being on top but outside of that a versatile tool! Cheers!
Are you kiding me? Deal breaker is it tips over?
The first thing ever taught to me about finish work is cover the area your working on so your tools wont hurt things and NEVER - EVER - IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, STAND YOUR DRILL UP, it is always laid down, so it will not fall or get knocked over.
If I found someone on any of my jobs with thier drill standing up with a bit in it, on open finished floor, counter tops, inside a cabinet, etc, they'd get one chance to learn, or be writen up.
I thank you for the tool review ✌️
Thank you for the informative review! It seems to be begging for a packout case.
Great review! Thank you! Honestly many things I hadn't thought of... I'm still going to have to go with this.
Hope you enjoy it!
How do you like it still? I just ordered one and reading comments about the lack of trigger switch directions button.
I love the way the fwd/reverse controls are laid out on this tool. I'm constantly nudging the directional push button on my cordless drills with the web of my hand when I least desire to, so this is a welcome improvement as far as I'm concerned. As far as not being "stable" when stood upright, well...I never stand my cordless tools upright on surfaces I care about anyway, so that is definitely not an issue for me.
chuckschilling that’s awesome Chuck, glad you’re loving the drill!
Was looking for someone to say that about the direction switch... I didn’t know this had the direction switch on the top and personally I love it. I’m especially bad about bumping my direction switch on my M12 driver while I’m using it for some reason, happens all the time, and this will fix that. Yes, I know, I’m probably holding it wrong lol.
That’d be the perfect gift for Father’s Day, birthday, or Christmas.
I've heard people say that one good reason to use a 12 volt tool is because they don't stand up. if you have a drill bit in a 12-volt tool and you brush it it's going to fall over and possibly ruin something so laying them down maybe a better practice anyways, as long as you don't lay it on the side with the belt hook
Thanks for the review! Here’s mine:
So I’ve bought one and have been using it for 2 weeks as a cabinet guy.
It’s a great tool with some serious flaws.
The reverse/forward button is in such an awkward spot. Plus it does this strange thing. If you have it in fwd, set it down and pick it up a few min later and then attempt to change the direction it only activates the feature and then you have to press it again. I know that’s confusing. It’s also confusing in real life.
But ultimately it’s a very good tool. I use it for its attachments and even as my driver for using my hole saws. But it’s not my daily driver.
Another plus is that it has opened up the m12 world to me. And the m12 oscillating tool is unbelievably good.
Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the info, I definitely agree with your assessment.
The reverse button just right the trigger is a real pain in tha ass for left handed. The button on the top is an improvement for left handed.
i'm left handed and i dont understand this comment. The reverse button is not "just right the trigger", it's both sides.. and it has never been an issue. Left or right handed, everyone needs to press it from both sides.
I like the Deal Breaker section....
I have one of these and to be honest his 2 deal breaker gripes are non issues for me, the forward reverse button doesn't cause me any heartburn, the tipping over doesn't both me either because I always lay my drivers down in their side so I don't have to worry about it falling over and damaging the surface or breaking a bit.
Glad to hear you're enjoying the drill.
How do you like your drill so far?
@@shanew7361 It's awesome, I use it all the time
@@kevinboothe9991 I just ordered one from Amazon for $175. Any issues with the buttons on top instead of switch at trigger?
@@shanew7361 Not really, the only thing I wish was different is that the chuck on the offset head had a lock so when you use it while drilling a hole it would stay in the chuck instead of staying in whatever you are drilling into. That's a good price, I paid $239 at Home Depot a year ago when they were first released. I hope you enjoy it
I actually like the forward and backwards button, I think it’s great and simple, a pretty neat feature. I’ve always lay my drills/power tools sideways or for this too my favorite is it attached with a clip to your pocket or belt. I prefer it with the tiny m12 battery than the bigger heavier battery, in my opinion I think it’s a great tool.
I love the push button forward reverse I am left handed and I usually put the drill in reverse. The lock also keeps the drill from running when it is stored
Glad you are enjoying the drill David:). Thanks for pointing out the lock button feature- I may or may not have figured that out shortly after I released this review:(
excellent review of function. Thank you. For me, that reversing thing is a deal breaker. The tipping over, I can handle with my own mods
Thanks for reviewing this drill. It’s been on my radar for a while now. I’m on my way to KMS now to purchase!!
Jason Doddridge enjoy!
How do you like it?
When using a drill in my left hand I am always bumping the reverse switch with my thumb knuckle. The top mounted switch looks like a good idea.
Hard rule against standing drills up.
I'm with you. I lay all tools down in the fall position because you WILL knock them over.
I lay them on the floor if I can, I won’t drop my drill from anywhere to get it shattered
What a dork
Glad I watched this before purchase. F/R button on top is 100% no go. Like you said, I'm constantly changing directions and anything different would be so awkward. Moving on from this one, but thanks
I've been using one for almost a year now, you get used to the electric switch, but they could have just used dual electric buttons to simulate the physical switch if they wanted to keep it slim. Other than that it's absolutely amazing, I use it 99% of the time with how much power it has. Even mounted a tv with 4 inch 1/2 lag bolts.
I know it’s a great drill, I want to love it but the switch kills me. I’m a bit of baby sometimes when it comes to tools.
How do you like your drill still? Any issues with bits falling out with the head adapter?
@@shanew7361 I've never had a bit fall out of any of the adapters aside from the offset which is only held in magnetically. And of course if you don't use any of the adapters it's also again only held in magnetically. But other than that it's great. I wish they made an impact and hammer drill attachment, then it would basically be the only drill I needed.
I've learned too lay the drill down all the time. No matter how stable it is standing up it inevitably gets knocked over at some point. Usually it winds up dropping on the floor. The festool is the premium installation drill, but the battery platform isn't worth the premium price. I usually just carry a couple m12 drills on me with different bits depending on what I'm doing.
Good review. I just got one. Very happy so far. Yes it is tipsy and the f/r switch location sucks.
How do you like it still? Just ordered one.
I agree with both of your criticisms. Both are things I could live with, but both are bad design work. That said, tipping forward with the XC batteries is completely unacceptable, glad I haven’t bought one yet. Love my M12 tools, and this one has great promise, but I think I’ll wait for Gen 2
Glad you said that about holesaws falling out. I thought it was just me!
It always happens in chucked drills, the bigger the hole saw the worse it happens, it's because of the weight and inertia on startup
I’ve had the forward/reverse on my m12 fuel hammer drill get pushed in accidentally more in 2 months than 6 years on my DeWalt 20v. This direction button is all about ultimate clearance.
As far as standing it up, I learned to always set a drill/driver down on its side after doing a summer with an electrician. It’s just asking for material/project or tool damage.
I lay tools down on the side anyways. This is perfect for me! Awesome!
Thank you for the one of the best reviews I've seen for this tool! I decided to buy one today and used it up in my attic to drill and install some construction lag screws in a very tight space. Worked great, mostly, I just wish the clearance using the right angle attachment could be less. But for a versatile tool, I'm good with that. I came to comment on the tippyness aspect -- it's no problem for me as I will always lay the drill flat. Look, I'm a clumsy DIYer with a couple cordless ryobi cordless drills that are bottom heavy with their batteries. And while I do like to set down those drills in an upright position for the easy grab, I admit that that on more than one occasion I've managed to knock over the ryobi drill and break the bit (a thin one, say 3/32). My corded drills lay flat, I'm good with flat. oh, and the forward/reverse/lock button, I couldn't figure that out in the store but it's just one button. Works for me just fine -- only thing is you need eyes on it to see the direction as opposed to the traditional tactile thing. Keep up the reviews Funny Carpenter and peace from the US.
Just to clarify one thing. It has 300 INCH lbs of torque. Which converts to 25 ft-lb of torque.
Great video! Helped me decide what to get
Nice review. Came across it just AFTER I’ve ordered my drill 🙄. Anyway I’m thinking I won’t find the ‘deal breaker’ to be that, as I’ve never been able to leave my other M12 drills upright and besides, wouldnt/shouldn’t do it even if I could. They always hang off the (excellent) clip or lay flat. Much safer practice for all tools if I’m working on vulnerable surfaces. I’m more concerned about the forward reverse switch but from other reviews it sounds like if you don’t have an immediate strop and send it back then you soon adapt. Besides this won’t be my main driver, but specialist one for awkward spaces. We shall see. But thanks for the clear concise review and lack of unboxing crap! Subscribed!
Lol those unboxing videos are terrible. I’m still liking the drill I have it sitting on my work bench with all the attachments out.
Thanks for the review. I agree with you. The forward reverse switch is most certainly a deal breaker for me.
They keep making these drill/drivers smaller, lighter, and more powerful. All great improvements but the trade off seams the lowest clutch setting is too powerful now for delicate driving. My biggest need is a very low clutch for driving lots of delicate screws. Like a #4 x1/2" piano screw into soft materials. With the clutch in the lowest setting can you pinch it and engage the clutch?
I use it for security camera maintenance work on lifts. Works out great without cracking acrylic domes with too much power. Attaching a lanyard strap on the guard part so it doesn’t fall and hurt anyone. The weight balance isn’t stupid for when I need both hands free and let it hang. No place to set it down when I’m 40 feet up in a plastic tub. The bubble button can be reached with the thumb of my hand holding it. If I couldn’t reach it and had to use another hand it would be unbearable.
That's like exactly what I need it for but my dad whos been a network tech for 20 years keeps telling it aint worth it, hes just old i aint listening to him lmao
@@redneckcommie Mint be the extra heads distracting. I’m deep into hobby woodworking and find the weird head attachments useful there. I only use the impact lock-in connector at work and do switch to my other M12 drill and driver some weeks. It’s a 170 dollar toy ;)
Great video....all points taken....i'm only pissed about the xtra steps to forward and reverse...everything else its acceptable for this great tool!
Great review - the tip-over thing could easily be solved if you could pair the larger footprint battery with a wider front foot that matches the height and could be kinda L-shaped and attach from the side where you're not using the belt hook? If you're handy with a 3D printer that's an easy fix, but the customer shouldn't have to do that. It would be good if something like that was included in the kit as it would be a very cheap attachment if it was properly tooled up.
The boarding deal breaker for me is the top of tool direction change. I'll have to try it out in store to see if its a big enough deal. 🤔
Definitely try it out in store and see what you think. I tried to deal with it for a while but couldn't do it. I gave it to my Dad haven't heard back yet though.
The switch on top is better. I have the M12 Fuel Hammer Drill and Driver. I frequently hit the forward/reverse slide switch with my palm near the base of my index finger. Maybe my hands are just big for the M12 platform, but I think the slide switch should be placed a bit higher. Since it's not, having the button on the top is a good feature.
I love the design.
I wish it had a locking collar on the offset holder and that you could rotate the offset and 90 without pulling them off. A lot of times I need to make small rotational adjustments. Bosch has a better drill for that, but on the other side, it’s less convenient to swap attachments. Still, I think I prefer the easy rotations.
Love the flick test.
Thank you!
I need one of these!
Regarding the last point about tipping, I feel like that's just begging for a 3D printed accessory. It would be pretty easy to design and print something that gives it a wider base without adding much bulk.
Really good review, I’m considering this tool and this has given me a realistic idea of what to expect. In your opinion, is this tool useful for home diy or is it overkill and better suited for professional use?
Tremendous question! Going to expand on this in an upcoming video, but basically if u have other m12 stuff than this drill makes sense as an all round tool for typical DIY. It can pretty much do everything fairly well. If I was starting out a cordless tool collection for just home DIY. I would buy Makita 18v stuff. Their blowers, hedge trimmers trimmers, etc are awesome! My first drill would be the Subcompact drill set with the drill and Impactor. I own that set now and it’s first class. I do own and love some M12 tools, but if I’m choosing only one platform it’s Makita 18v all day long.
I’m already established with the hitachi 18v line and just getting into the m12 and m18 line as a way to supplement my Hitachi 18v tools. I do like the Makita line, but Milwaukee was the only possible choice for me because I really wanted the m18 wet/dry vac. I also pick up the inflator, so the choice to go with milwaukee has been made.
My next purchase is either the installation tool or the 5 piece m12 set that comes with a ratchet. Thanks for your opinion!
avega2792 good luck man! Always grab the one that will improve your situation in life the most:)
Home use, bought it for my wife and I may get one for small job.
A foot or a stand that attaches to the magnet tray. And that the "foot" attachment itself has the same style magnet tray so you don't loose that "perk"
The direction switch on my drill easily broke and the problem was chronic. It cost Milwaukee a lot of $ to fix/replace those switches. But...I agree the location is not what we’re used to
You can probably 3d print something that screws into the belt holders on both sides to make it more stable.
I have the Milwaukee and Festool and the Festool never comes out of the box anymore.. I love the milwaukee and I have no problem with the forward and reverse. I do think the Festool has more power.
Any views in fdd vs fpd. Can't see how much use the metal locking collar is in the fdd and fpd has more torque. Are the attachments plastic in both?
Actually looking at this for HVAC installation looks like it would be perfect with all of your drawbacks.
thanks for the great review
I guess I missed this in the review but after a few days of use I finally realized the bare tool AND the right angle both will directly accept a 1/4 hex bit, i.e. you won't need the jacobs or driver chuck when in a tight space.
Gracias por la información. Saludos desde Chile.
Does it have an impact drive feature?
Does it ????
The lack of the traditional forward/release button is 100% a deal breaker for me. The other features are great and I can deal with not being able to stand it up, but I will wait for the next revision with F/R button.
has this been confirmed by milwaukee that they will do this? if so I'd like to wait too, but using my 1/4" milwaukee impact driver to use my 4" holesaw to make a hole for my dryer vent took a while with it constantly bucking. So that 3/8 attachment and smooth drill feature would be great to add to my kit now, I'm sure I can live with the button as it overshadowed by my immediate need for a better solution daily.
@@fabiangomez357 - I haven't been keeping up with tool news so have no idea if Milkwaukee will implement a mechanical F/R/ button. I ended up with a Bosch brushless flexiclick. It worked well, has a traditional F/R button, and is more compact than the Installation driver.
I've learned to like the top switch, I have a habit on my normal drills and drivers of just slightly hitting the forward reverse button and putting it in neutral. Grrr
@@Mantis858585 - okay, that makes sense from that point of view. Inadvertent changes to the drive direction could cause damage to the work surface. Thanks for your input!
I generally put my tools down carefully what I working on marble or finish surfaces and I don't trust to leave them standing up anyways it's an accident waiting to happen when someone walks by you turn to hit it with your elbow I mean really , that's your possible deal breaker the way you may put your tools waiting to fall over and damage your clients materials or break your bit, I suggest moving blankets it is always helped me 👍
Sorry dude I should have used another word than carelessly 🤭
conantdog no worries. My Makita and Festool drills sit rock solid on there batteries. When you’re working on cabinet bases drill don’t lay down nicely on a 3.5” rail. Cheers always enjoy talking tools:)
You don’t want to stand any tools up on finished floors or cabinets. You want to have a piece of plywood to lay down and lay your tool on. Or just lay the tool on the pack up bag.
Love that the tool heads are interchangable but hate where they put the forward / reverse button. should have left it where ALL the other drivers have it!!
That big chunk in front of the handle. What is it for? Seems designed to get in the way in confined spaces. Just to hold bits? Better places to put them.
Why not try the Bosch? Same attachments, slightly more power, no bit sticking down in front of the handle, and sliding fwd/rev that you like. Doesn't stand up, so it will not fall over. You lay it on its side. (Simples.) If you are working on fine finished surfaces you should be using a tool mat anyway.
'Milwaukee, widen the base'. Why don't you? Better yet, add suction cups.
great review. thanks
Thank you! I was leaning in the flexiclick direction, what do you think? Is festool worth it?
Austin Galloway that Bosch flexiclick looks sweet. I might have to snag one to review! The Festool csx lacks any power whatsoever, that being said it is one of my favourite tools.
Curious, have you used the Bosch 12V tool? Wondering how the Milwaukee compares to it. BTW, the Bosch doesn't stand up at all and, the battery is a pain to remove.
Hi, what happened with the promised comparison video with the Festool CSX?
It’s coming! Hopefully by the end of November. Thanks for asking.
Great video! How would you say the power compares to a traditional right angle drill?
I’d say 1-1/8” spade bit through 2x4, but you won’t be blown away at all by the power.
Thanks man.
I'm sorry I can't afford Fastool I got The milwallee For the price and I have batteries already Let's all your thing about the bits can always put the longer Bit in the Milwaukee If I win the lottery then I'll think about getting the festool You keep up with your videos they're entertaining And knowledgeable See you later from Florida and Cheers With a beer
Great review!
In your opinion, does the CXS have enough torque?
It could definitely use more power allowing it to be more useful for drilling etc... but for fine work it’s great.
@@TheFunnyCarpenter I just watched the comparison. It sank that 3” screw no problem. Excellent honest real world reviews. Thanks.
How did you find the trigger sensibility and low end torque compared to the beloved festool?
Hello, i have a doubt, do you know if are this chucks compatible with the fpdx kit hamer drill version??
Have you ever had a chance to use Snap On tools with a rocker(?) switch for forward and reverse? In my opinion a lot better than cross bar switch.
I think is just his personal opinion. THE DRILL IS AWESOME! just the way it is.
indeed, but still not as good as the Festool CXS....in my personal opinion:)
Hey,
I can't figure out what "generation" the m12 fuel drill driver and impact driver are currently on now. I'd hate to buy one or a kit and find out the new comes out a month later AND the older one is marked down.
Do you know?
Nice video. Thank you
Can this be used as a die grinder? Thank you.
Thanks for the review.
Those who designed this drill never used it and never worked "in field" - on a construction site or in a workshop.
I wish to see how all the fans of this tool will work in tight spaces trying to push reverse button.
These white triangles are also impossible to see outdoors in sunlight.
Thums up for you.
Thums down for the drill.
Yes sometimes it is highly questionable as to whether or not these tool engineers ever actually use tools😢
It's really complicated. You just take your free hand and press the reverse button. I didn't even need my college degree to figure that out.
@@chuckschillingvideos that only works if you have a free hand. Most of the time I'm using my other hand to hold what I'm installing.
@@chuckschillingvideos You don't always have a free hand for every task. For my job I often have to position an item with one hand and then use the driver while standing on a ladder. That isn't much of an issue if the screw catches how it should, but sometimes you have to back off and then send it again once or twice. Ultimately I feel the drive selection isn't much of an issue for what I do, but it may be a bigger problem for others. Not everybody uses the same tool in the same capacity and every task has different challenges so most criticisms of a tool from someone who uses them often are valid, you only need experience using tools for different tasks to know that.
I Use the 4.0 battery instead of the 2.0
The Bob Ross of carpentry
I love my M12 Drill Driver...EXCEPT for the fatal design flaw. It needs to be rebuild with better LED lighting...and most important...a SLOWER SPEED. This drill is easily bumped waaaaaaaaay too fast for delicate work.
Yeah forward reverse is the biggest deal breaker for me personally. If it had a regular style switch I'd buy it
100% agree
Have you used this one?
www.screwfix.com/p/milwaukee-m12-bddx-202c-12v-2-0ah-li-ion-redlithium-cordless-drill-driver/774hf
Btw really like your videos .. I have subscribed
Thanks Brian
I am a DYI person so I may miss something , but I really don’t like those magnetic bits, they always seem of come out of the holder and fall on the floor or get stuck on the screw and pull out of the chuck. So I too really like the drill but I don’t understand why the offset chuck uses the magnetic bits while the normal 1/4” chuck uses the locking style. So you need to have two kinds of bits or use the locking style in the magnetic chuck which does not work well. I also don’t like the stability of the drill and the top mounted reverse. Other then that I too am a fan of this drill.
Great points! I think the chuck on the offset attachment is to allow for tight clearances.
The Funny Carpenter
I have looked at the locking collar and I don’t think it would add that much to the diameter of the offset. Plus having a bit come out in a tight quarters would be even more frustrating. For me I would gladly give up the small amount distance to securely hold the bit. It was a vary good review,. I have actually considered to see if I could hack this drill and put some small buttons in parallel with the reverse switch and add buttons down near the trigger on the magnetic bit holder frame where my finger could switch it . You pretty well matched my likes and dislikes. I have been remodeling my kitchen and used this drill a lot. I think there are more likes then dislike, but there are definite areas of improvements.
d h ya it’s definitely a nice powerful drill for the size, but the flaws are annoying.
Probably to attach the other heads to the end of it.
It's a good review!
Forward and reverse switch is a complete deal breaker! Otherwise it would be a swwet drill. Could have more power too.
Preach!
Not for left handed
Got this drill 3 weeks ago, love everything about it BUT ... the forward reverse switch sucks ... its totally not intuitive .. i have the Bosch its great as well but does not fit in the hand like the MW does. Also the Flexiclick has a locking hex holder on the right angle which helps with backing out drill bits as oppose to the magnetic holder on the MW. The forward reverse is a deal breaker for me.
Agreed!
Why are replacing Festool?
The forward and reverse was the dealbreaker for me, went with the flexiclick
Nice review. Yup.. its a deal breaker. Just wanted to buy till i watched this video.
Put this big battery in it and your golden man. Just like the 18v battery has a square base like a traditional drill battery… the m12 big battery has the square base and will weigh it down right. Not a deal breaker it’s a lightweight tool. Put a bottom heavy big battery in it and your good to go
Nice review, just using it for a short time, which do you like better, the Milwaukee or the CXS? Thanks
Joey Segreti for my particular use which is mostly: Putting screws into the back of cabinets and attaching handles I prefer the csx. The slightly lower rpm and centrotech chuck make it more precise. That being said the csx is comically underpowered, I’m happy to keep the M12 in my garage with all the chucks sitting on my workbench. Very handy can do almost everything.
The Funny Carpenter - thanks for the quick reply !!
genius solution!
I always lay my tools down on a carpet square or two...where are my tools? - always on the square, can they possibly under any circumstances fall over with sharp bit in them - nope, they're laying down...we all work differently.
Indeed, not a bad idea with the carpet square. If working in some highly sensitive areas I will use my kneeling pad.