No because in order for a record to be removed, the athlete must test possitive at the time the record was set; he tested possitive at a later time. I hope that answers your question.
Shot Putting is about total body power, not just chest/shoulders/triceps strength. Squats/Cleans/and Deadlifts will do more for your shot putting than bench pressing!
yea I read the same, but the rotational standing throw is always considerably low in comparison to the full throw.I do doubt he could bench alot anyways... and his squat is right around where adam nelson and cantwell are. The part where he's doing powercleans hammer style hes clean.
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@bigjoshscherer Your right - we had a guy at my university that PC like 360lbs, bench was crazy and squat was rediculous - but he only threw like 58'. Throwing is about power - not strength and to prove that roids did not do as much as people think for randy barnes - look at his warm up throw at A&M at the Mt Sac relays when he was a 19 year old freshman - 76'. Power is fast-twitch and hereditary - he sure must have been a very powerful guy because these weights are not crazy at all.
@VikingII Okay, but those guys are strongman competitors rather than throwers, so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. Not taking anything away from those guys, because stongman comps are great.
Does anyone have a theory on why many throwers do powerlifting-style squats over Olympic style squats? In my opinion the Olympic squat seems more beneficial
ie 3 reps @ 225 bench w/o roids 8 rep @ 225 w/ bench w/ roids steroids doesnt make you stronger it makes ATP last longer allowing you to do more reps therefore allowing you to get stronger (i think lol) im sure many of you know this but consider it a random PSA lol don't take this as me showing off my knowledge of lack there of i jus wanted to put that out and see if im right and how ppl take it
@Tj5923 ha ok. hey are legal prohormones banned in shot? i've been taking androstanediol and i've gained A LOT of strength. in the past month i went up to 315 on squat and deadlift (however no gains in bench), and i'm wondering if they test you for it.
Keep in mind when watching his "form" that when a shot-putter does a lift like the bench press he or she is trying to accelerate the bar as fast as possible. NOT to lift a maximum weight. Fast lifting is to develop those fast twitch muscle fibers that throwers need to accelerate the shot as fast as possible.
hey here's why roids works (i think lol) they allow your ATP to break a lil slower than it normally would if you weren't taking them therefore you are able to do more reps then you normally would. ATP (free eneregy, energy expended without you getting tired) lasts 4-6 seconds (6 if you are an excellent athlete) then it breaks down and you go into oxygen debt or you start to get tired...steroids allows more time to work before you hit oxygen debt
I think he isn't training for bench competition. Shot putter has to do bench very explosively and it doesn't matter if he's ass comes little bit off the bench. Don't comment if you know anything.
roids dont make ATP last longer because ATP is just another molecule. you cant make those phosphates work more than once. for endurance people like bikers and runners take roids that let your blood carry more oxygen, while weightlifters/power athletes use testosterone and other supplements that allow muscles to heal artificially fast after working out. then you can look like randy barnes.
I do not think that is his strength had banned substances. That the mass of an athlete having a power player having easy access to 5 cm less than the squat ties and bouncy bench press .These do 140 kg of force -makers need to even very wonderful gifts. He must have had a great shot put technique .
anyone complaining about his cleans... whether or not he catches it has no effect on his actual throw. Im willing to bet its actually somewhat beneficial to not completely catch it in an effort to save his wrists.
"tork" ;-) I'm assuming thats slang for Torque . Adam Nelson has boat loads of torque... soo much he has a goofy looking form, However his distance isn't up to part with randy's
@bigjoshscherer i'm sure some of the putters today would be offended about the roids comment. they're THE factor in all the old strength records. there are guys out there today who'd break em' and then some if they could use juice. imagine albert pujols with mark mcguire's medicine cabinet
I can't believe barnes is the world record holder... he's weak compared to the other throwers, cantwell / adam nelson (don't know about hoffa) are definitely stronger. Nelson can incline bench 535 and barnes is fighting on a 500 flat bench... this must be when he was clean
Holy crap he's the best shot putter ever and he can't bench 500 lbs for 2? No disrespect and I know 500 lbs. is a LOT (I can't do it for the record) but I would have expected the shot puuer with the world record to be able to do it twice. I know armwrestlers who can and armwrestling isn't a lot about the chest muscles.
@bigjoshscherer yup, i have friends that can squat the same amount and they're only 19, not to mention they don't take any supplements. today's squatters literally go as high as up to 1000 lb for 2 reps (referring to kirk karwoski) and their ass almost touches the floor. as for me i'm 15 with the maxes of DL:245, SQ: 225, BP: 185. i'm also joining shotput this year so, i hoe to get somewhere haha :p
Really? Have you ever competed in a meet? There is no federation in the history of competitive powerlifting or bench-only meets that allows your ass to come off the bench. Only a back arch, with shoulders and ass down at all times. There are alot of guys that can lift big weights in a gym but in a sanctioned meet where the weight has to be controlled and the press has to be strict, they crumble.
His ass is constantly coming off the bench in all his pressing videos. He'd never get a green light from a judge. Plus, in a meet he'd have to pause at the bottom for a second.
wow you only inproved that much? i mean im not bragging, but man if your doin 365 as an 8th grader, and only 110 pounds more as a senior, thats kinda sad. i put 100 pounds on my squat in less than 6 months
He is redonkulously weak compared to the strength monsters of today. Good guys now Bench Press close to 600lbs, squat 750lbs at LEAST, deadlift 750-800lbs. This
Shot put is not only about strength, technique is a vital part, watch his shot put training videos, he is an artist in the circle.
The Fact is that Barnes Had What they call Tork. He was Athletic like a Full back and moved through the ring with authority. Kinda likeNoah Bryant
No because in order for a record to be removed, the athlete must test possitive at the time the record was set; he tested possitive at a later time. I hope that answers your question.
Shot Putting is about total body power, not just chest/shoulders/triceps strength. Squats/Cleans/and Deadlifts will do more for your shot putting than bench pressing!
yea I read the same, but the rotational standing throw is always considerably low in comparison to the full throw.I do doubt he could bench alot anyways... and his squat is right around where adam nelson and cantwell are. The part where he's doing powercleans hammer style hes clean.
what is the name of the song
Chuck McAllister benched 550 like pie and squatted 650 for reps with no aids like wraps and tight shirts. He was a helluva shot putter!!
Weights lifted don’t matter only distance does this isn’t powerlifting this is throwing
Parabens Ralph..vim aki pois to fazendo um trabalho pra faculdade, e alem de estudante sou culturista amador, parabens camarada, peso descomunal em seu treinamento ;)
greg, recife-brasil
@bigjoshscherer Your right - we had a guy at my university that PC like 360lbs, bench was crazy and squat was rediculous - but he only threw like 58'. Throwing is about power - not strength and to prove that roids did not do as much as people think for randy barnes - look at his warm up throw at A&M at the Mt Sac relays when he was a 19 year old freshman - 76'. Power is fast-twitch and hereditary - he sure must have been a very powerful guy because these weights are not crazy at all.
@VikingII Are you comparing him to today's shot putters, or today's equipped powerlifters?
I am athletic shotput player. My country India. U are best. I watch ur all video. All world ur Best shotput throw technical.
What is the name of the song in this video or who is it by?
@WinF64 neither, I'm talking raw lifts from men like poundstone,savickas,pudzianowski,kazmaier,vyrastuk,kakyleav and various others.
I threw in the highland games a 32' 9 with a 16 lb stone, and i took first in the event. I just turned 16, so your throw is not to bad at all.
Nice m8
@VikingII Okay, but those guys are strongman competitors rather than throwers, so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. Not taking anything away from those guys, because stongman comps are great.
OMG! i really want the name of this song.. its so nice :D
Does anyone have a theory on why many throwers do powerlifting-style squats over Olympic style squats? In my opinion the Olympic squat seems more beneficial
Watch Gunthor Werner train after watching this
The giant Gunthor💪💪
any one know what that lift is called, where he is doing almost a power clean but not actually catching it at the top?
does anyone know what song this is?
what's the name of the song?
ie 3 reps @ 225 bench w/o roids
8 rep @ 225 w/ bench w/ roids
steroids doesnt make you stronger it makes ATP last longer allowing you to do more reps therefore allowing you to get stronger (i think lol)
im sure many of you know this but consider it a random PSA lol don't take this as me showing off my knowledge of lack there of i jus wanted to put that out and see if im right and how ppl take it
@Tj5923 ha ok. hey are legal prohormones banned in shot? i've been taking androstanediol and i've gained A LOT of strength. in the past month i went up to 315 on squat and deadlift (however no gains in bench), and i'm wondering if they test you for it.
Keep in mind when watching his "form" that when a shot-putter does a lift like the bench press he or she is trying to accelerate the bar as fast as possible. NOT to lift a maximum weight. Fast lifting is to develop those fast twitch muscle fibers that throwers need to accelerate the shot as fast as possible.
Doped as all USA,Jamaican,Kenyan and Ethiopian
+carlo betti huh that Guy would Break your Face
carlo betti Doped as all
lol look at hes back at 0:24 "Hammer Throw" hahahaha the irony XD
Song???????
I like how he goes from squatting 585 twice struggling to 600 lbs 3 reps like a joke. Give me some of that juice randy!
@geofflbradley then why do powerlifters juice?
best mullet ever.
@sum182wrestling
Do some and if you think it helps then keep doing it.
he is huge... looks like a body builder than a shotputter
wrong,test makes your muscles grow which in turn make you stronger,it has no immediate effect on force output.
This guy is my friends uncle I've met him many times he dosent do roids he has been weight training since he was like 5
Thats a good ole west virginia boy.
hey here's why roids works (i think lol) they allow your ATP to break a lil slower than it normally would if you weren't taking them therefore you are able to do more reps then you normally would. ATP (free eneregy, energy expended without you getting tired) lasts 4-6 seconds (6 if you are an excellent athlete) then it breaks down and you go into oxygen debt or you start to get tired...steroids allows more time to work before you hit oxygen debt
@Tj5923 hmm, sounds like a good idea, i might just go for it, thanks bro :)
I gotcha but I still expected a bench of more than 500x2.
Roids my dudes. Juice
no, but if his legs are that strong he should be able to clean alot of weight. The power clean is a leg exercise, for the most part.
@TheBruiser012 so give the records to best of today....
ridiculously strong
@VikingII The only strongman you should be comparing him to is Capes.
I love how he benches 585 and squats 600 ... Crazy
ShotGlass no his bench wasn t more than 500
@Tj5923 what makes you say that lol?
I think he isn't training for bench competition. Shot putter has to do bench very explosively and it doesn't matter if he's ass comes little bit off the bench.
Don't comment if you know anything.
The belt is for protection of the lower back.
what a beast!
roids dont make ATP last longer because ATP is just another molecule. you cant make those phosphates work more than once. for endurance people like bikers and runners take roids that let your blood carry more oxygen, while weightlifters/power athletes use testosterone and other supplements that allow muscles to heal artificially fast after working out. then you can look like randy barnes.
I do not think that is his strength had banned substances. That the mass of an athlete having a power player having easy access to 5 cm less than the squat ties and bouncy bench press .These do 140 kg of force -makers need to even very wonderful gifts. He must have had a great shot put technique .
he maynot be strong to you keyboard coaches, but ca you throw a 16 pound shot over 70 feet?
What are randy barnes and brian oldfield doing now? where have they gone, i mean are they even alive?
anyone complaining about his cleans... whether or not he catches it has no effect on his actual throw. Im willing to bet its actually somewhat beneficial to not completely catch it in an effort to save his wrists.
@Matt Canfield that has to be the stupidest comment I have ever read in my life. LOL
The truth is that many modern guys are stronger than Barnes. But not many of the Big Lifters are Functional. Randy Wasnt Muscle bond, just strong.
fuck me dead. He was sent from the future in which machine have taken over... He's a bloody terminator!
Yeah, they're more like pulls. But for a guy that squat 600+ that easily, he should be cleaning alot more weight.
@matt Canfield I also take bong rips of unicorn farts
@WinF64 I'm just saying he is weak by comparison when looking at modern strength athletes. Everybody is ooing and aweing at his strength
"tork" ;-) I'm assuming thats slang for Torque . Adam Nelson has boat loads of torque... soo much he has a goofy looking form, However his distance isn't up to part with randy's
@bigjoshscherer i'm sure some of the putters today would be offended about the roids comment. they're THE factor in all the old strength records. there are guys out there today who'd break em' and then some if they could use juice. imagine albert pujols with mark mcguire's medicine cabinet
you're ahead ;-)
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why don't he use any weights for 2:00 ?
arch = that he does in slowmotion?
I can't believe barnes is the world record holder... he's weak compared to the other throwers, cantwell / adam nelson (don't know about hoffa) are definitely stronger. Nelson can incline bench 535 and barnes is fighting on a 500 flat bench... this must be when he was clean
well he was competing in the track and field..
who cares whether his bench is legal or not ? He's not a powerlifter, no need for a "strict press". He's benching for throwing the shot.
Juice does wonders
Holy crap he's the best shot putter ever and he can't bench 500 lbs for 2? No disrespect and I know 500 lbs. is a LOT (I can't do it for the record) but I would have expected the shot puuer with the world record to be able to do it twice. I know armwrestlers who can and armwrestling isn't a lot about the chest muscles.
@bigjoshscherer yup, i have friends that can squat the same amount and they're only 19, not to mention they don't take any supplements. today's squatters literally go as high as up to 1000 lb for 2 reps (referring to kirk karwoski) and their ass almost touches the floor. as for me i'm 15 with the maxes of DL:245, SQ: 225, BP: 185. i'm also joining shotput this year so, i hoe to get somewhere haha :p
Luckily this is throwing and not powerlifting
Very strong, great shot puter, but he archs his back =/
hell i would if it was 500 pounds
Gaydar is beeping loud as fuck at the end.
Really? Have you ever competed in a meet? There is no federation in the history of competitive powerlifting or bench-only meets that allows your ass to come off the bench. Only a back arch, with shoulders and ass down at all times. There are alot of guys that can lift big weights in a gym but in a sanctioned meet where the weight has to be controlled and the press has to be strict, they crumble.
no way was that 205 on the curl bar he was tricep pressing
haha his elbows would be blown out of their sockets
Great. Now show us the pre-lift where you dope
Nothing like old american school.
Nothing.
Was he the one who was banned for life from the Olympics for using steroids?
His ass is constantly coming off the bench in all his pressing videos. He'd never get a green light from a judge. Plus, in a meet he'd have to pause at the bottom for a second.
@stopthebullshit100 and they should be legal, they're less damaging than alcohol and more medicinal than marijuana.
Hold my juice
@mrcatohead
Heh, little hope for us little ones. ;)
Oh like a jerk type thing? Thats wierd, I figured he would be doing full cleans
hes benching like a powerlifter-to increase the weight when he should be focusing on isolating the muscle groups he wants to exercise- pectorals
Juicin it boy?
So many stupid comments. Proves most people have such limited knowledge of the iron game and strength sports.
man his form on bench is really sloppy...good way to get hurt
true, but even then he's still weak
wow you only inproved that much? i mean im not bragging, but man if your doin 365 as an 8th grader, and only 110 pounds more as a senior, thats kinda sad. i put 100 pounds on my squat in less than 6 months
He thinks he is a basses because he was a juicehead.
He is redonkulously weak compared to the strength monsters of today. Good guys now Bench Press close to 600lbs, squat 750lbs at LEAST, deadlift 750-800lbs. This
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Why does he Efail so miserably at cleans? For a guy benching and squatting that much wait he should be getting 300 like cake.
He's so powerful he's actually exploding so hard he can do it with falling into a squat
What can steroids do for you! Lol
Thats a good ole west virginia boy.