i must say i never played or even knew about the first steel diver, but i spent soooo much time on the second. i remember the highest level being 99 and one knew the players that reached that level and greeted each other in the lobby and stuff. subwars may have been one of the first games were i really played online multiplayer mainly. also until some years after i stopped playing it i knew the entire morse alphabet, which was quite a flex at my age back then. thanks for this video and the nostalgia it gave me 🫶🏻
FINALLY sone attention and respect for such an amazing intense game with some unique and completely underappreciated and underrated controls and such an amazing atmosphere, I can go on, amazing game
I remember when you could actually kill your teammates in sdsw. Some people would actually name themselves things like "teamkiller" and slaughter their teams lmao.
16:15 the whole point of this minigame is to rely on your sonar in order to find the enemy sub. as soon as you center yourself to where the sub appears on the radar, search for a small trail of bubbles by zooming in scope and lead the shot to whatever direction, left or right, the bubbles are moving in. back when i played this with my siblings, it was in most case scenarios THE game changer aside from depth charges
periscope strike and steel commander (mainly periscope strike) was all i would play when i was younger, i didnt go very far in main campaign. only this summer i came back to the campaign and beat it, was hella fun
You had to be there to play steeldiver subwars. Playing it today is clunky and boring as many players either hack or are absurdly good. Grinding back then when it came out was just it's own beast and lies as one of my greatest memories of all time playing any online game.
The amount of strategies developed into the game really made it fun. I used to sink subs without even getting hit. I ended up getting a 67 Win-streak without using a secondary DS. I really miss the days where this game would have full lobbies :(
I appreciate you for making this video. I have been upset with Nintendo for not making this for the Switch, along with other previous IPs they haven't made. No one talks about this game, but Nintendo needs revamp this game.
Thanks for making this video. I had no idea this game existed but after getting a look of the mechanics I became kinda obsessed. It looks like a great use of the DS Hardwear, and seems like something I'd have loved as a kid
I disagree with your review of subwars. That game was legendary to play back in the day and I'd argue that the free version was basically a never-expiring demo of the game, whereas the premium version was you actually buying the game.
Interesting perspective, thanks for making this! I haven't played the first one, only Sub Wars, and I remember really liking it in the day. I never really saw it as a "free to play game with paid $10 premium" but rather as a "$10 game with a playable demo". the extra subs you can get for 99 cents each are pretty good, but the regular subs you unlock much later on at higher levels outclass them (paying to increase crew capacity is BS though). And while the morse code mission was pretty stupid, I do remember having a lot of fun on the other missions like that last one with the battleship, learning to dodge its attacks and whatnot. Finding all the crewmembers in the missions and the ones in the multiplayer was fun to do, at least for me. And getting all the star medals for the campaign was a good challenge. I do wish it had at least some semblance of a story, but overall I enjoyed it. I guess what I remember most is sending "TO VICTORY!" in the lobby before each match. But yeah, mostly superlevelled experts playing it now so it's pretty unplayable.
The thing about Sub Wars is that it's more of a 10 buck game with a free demo instead of a F2P P2W game honestly. I personally consider it more of a spin off instead of a direct sequel of Steeldiver, as well.
I didnt play the original but I did play steeldiver: sub wars, it was very fun (thinking about it it was one of the most fun online games I ever played)
@@Luci_the_Demon yes and no, if you say most of them do something, its not really that racist, but if you say they do it because of their race then yeah its racist
Honestly forgot that sub wars even was f2p. I though it just had a demo or something. It’s gimmick was it was a proper real-time player-on-player game.
Well put together video. I love this game. It has a strange charm to me. If we have a loving dev team that can give the game the right love it needs. It could be great. But its just a dream for now.
27:00 This is why I at some points learned Morse Code (not in the traditional sense, but at some point I just knew the combinations). So I guess SDSW can teach you morse code if you really feel like it.
0:32 as a fellow owner of a game cartridge of Steeldiver, its not a crappy video, as theres not many videos by bigger yt channels about the game. also ive had steeldiver for i think about the same amount of time youve had it (in other words, i got it around the same time)
Thx for making that video. That game deserves some love. Bought the game for 10 Euro cib when I bought my 2ds xl last year. Absolutely love the game. Bought the 2ds to play the pokemon games I missed out on, but instead I play steeldiver😅
this is just... it just keeps making me happy when i see something like this. as little brat i spent 487 hours with the steel diver sub wars , and still, after all those years I sometimes switch my 2DS on and launch the game. both steel diver and sub wars are alive. people are still playing these games. 26:25 no, the CPU's are actually aimining and sometimes, when i was extremely low, they were able to kill me. Yes, watching the killcam of CPU just sitting there and shooting was and still is frustrating. and the supply ships aren't for free exp only, if you surface next to an allied ship, it will start repairing you. AND the coin thing about the "Fish Tank" map isn't the only unique game mechanic, this map also has the filter on the corners, and if you get close to them, they will start replenishing your air without surfacing, but there are tons of special game mechanics on the other maps
I managed to rack up over 400 hours in sub wars (which actually isn’t too much but whatever) and never noticed any pay to win elements. You’d get Lv100 garfish players who’d be insane and Lv5 Z-class players who’d just sit there and miss constantly. And even for child me, £0.89 was affordable for a cool sub. Some games have £60 dlc for about the same amount of content.
Whaddup fluffy clan. This is still the best game and I miss the community so much. I dream of somebody making a remake for PlayStation or something, including a media like mii verse just for it.
I had a ton of fun with this game when the 3ds was new. I never understood the hate. Sure , it’s underwhelming for a first party Nintendo game, but why not improve upon it and make another?
@@karstengrenzig1821 Ahh thats unfortunate timing. I think around 10 would work for you too., ALso, im working with some people to stabilize the emulator so we can run SDSW on PC. This will make grouping up more convenient, as people can play from around the world with much less lag and in 1080p
@@karstengrenzig1821 It is necessary to play at the time of the Japanese they are generally present of 8h with 17h (French time) I do not know where you come from
take my respect. ANYONE who has played and enjoyed steel diver should be given the respect they deserve.
Aye, myself included for once
@@Luci_the_Demon ye bro
Yes sssirrrr 🤙
Speaking of Steel Diver, look on my channel
@@Luci_the_Demon Speaking of Steel Diver, look on my channel
I seriously want Nintendo to bring a new iteration of Steel Diver: Sub Wars to the Switch. I'm a final boss sub main lol
It'll prolly never happen, but one can dream
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True
@@ahlixemus8903Why that?
BRO SAMEEEEEEEEE
well i was when i had sdsw on my ds that had a bunch of good games before it bricked due to being left dead for too long :(
i must say i never played or even knew about the first steel diver, but i spent soooo much time on the second. i remember the highest level being 99 and one knew the players that reached that level and greeted each other in the lobby and stuff. subwars may have been one of the first games were i really played online multiplayer mainly. also until some years after i stopped playing it i knew the entire morse alphabet, which was quite a flex at my age back then.
thanks for this video and the nostalgia it gave me 🫶🏻
For me it is the opposite. I grew up on SteelDiver 1 and only later found out wbout Sub Wars.
Bro I remember playing sub wars when i was like 8, that was fun as hell
I forgot what the game was called but the songs were always in my head. The soundtrack is addictive
I'd be hype as fuck if this became a series
this game stolle so many hours (sdsw) from me. it was one of my all time favorites and now and again i wish i could play it again
It still works
FINALLY sone attention and respect for such an amazing intense game with some unique and completely underappreciated and underrated controls and such an amazing atmosphere, I can go on, amazing game
I remember when you could actually kill your teammates in sdsw. Some people would actually name themselves things like "teamkiller" and slaughter their teams lmao.
i dont even remember that
16:15 the whole point of this minigame is to rely on your sonar in order to find the enemy sub. as soon as you center yourself to where the sub appears on the radar, search for a small trail of bubbles by zooming in scope and lead the shot to whatever direction, left or right, the bubbles are moving in. back when i played this with my siblings, it was in most case scenarios THE game changer aside from depth charges
Glasses free 3d still blows my mind when I use my 3ds. I love this system.
i loved this game. such high stakes. it was free when i started playing it. if they dropped it on switch i would play it all the time
I had so much fun playing sdsw! Game freaking slapped!
Periscope Strike was virtually the only thing I did on this game as a kid. I loved watching the ships sink from beneath the surface ✌
periscope strike and steel commander (mainly periscope strike) was all i would play when i was younger, i didnt go very far in main campaign. only this summer i came back to the campaign and beat it, was hella fun
You had to be there to play steeldiver subwars. Playing it today is clunky and boring as many players either hack or are absurdly good. Grinding back then when it came out was just it's own beast and lies as one of my greatest memories of all time playing any online game.
I second this. SDSW and especially it's Miiverse page is some of the best memories I have on the 3ds.
I'm a final boss sub main so I cant be *that* good, right? *Right??*
I mean I also used it. It was very popular at the time and looks amazing.
Yes the servers are indeed hacked right now, just like with Titanfall 2
Hitreg left and right and somehow they're able to pinpoint the exact coordinates you're at without using the map or sonar
The amount of strategies developed into the game really made it fun. I used to sink subs without even getting hit. I ended up getting a 67 Win-streak without using a secondary DS. I really miss the days where this game would have full lobbies :(
I appreciate you for making this video. I have been upset with Nintendo for not making this for the Switch, along with other previous IPs they haven't made. No one talks about this game, but Nintendo needs revamp this game.
i absolutely agree
I loved playing this game.
Never touched the Sub Wars version, though..
Loved playing steel commander with this one kid who actually had the game as well back in elementary school, it was great.
Thanks for making this video. I had no idea this game existed but after getting a look of the mechanics I became kinda obsessed. It looks like a great use of the DS Hardwear, and seems like something I'd have loved as a kid
I disagree with your review of subwars. That game was legendary to play back in the day and I'd argue that the free version was basically a never-expiring demo of the game, whereas the premium version was you actually buying the game.
I always have the sub wars icon song stuck in my head. I almost learned morse code from the chat system. So fun.
Interesting perspective, thanks for making this!
I haven't played the first one, only Sub Wars, and I remember really liking it in the day. I never really saw it as a "free to play game with paid $10 premium" but rather as a "$10 game with a playable demo". the extra subs you can get for 99 cents each are pretty good, but the regular subs you unlock much later on at higher levels outclass them (paying to increase crew capacity is BS though). And while the morse code mission was pretty stupid, I do remember having a lot of fun on the other missions like that last one with the battleship, learning to dodge its attacks and whatnot. Finding all the crewmembers in the missions and the ones in the multiplayer was fun to do, at least for me. And getting all the star medals for the campaign was a good challenge.
I do wish it had at least some semblance of a story, but overall I enjoyed it.
I guess what I remember most is sending "TO VICTORY!" in the lobby before each match. But yeah, mostly superlevelled experts playing it now so it's pretty unplayable.
One of my favorite 3ds games
The thing about Sub Wars is that it's more of a 10 buck game with a free demo instead of a F2P P2W game honestly.
I personally consider it more of a spin off instead of a direct sequel of Steeldiver, as well.
Literally playing online with randoms. THIS GAME WON'T DIE
I didnt play the original but I did play steeldiver: sub wars, it was very fun (thinking about it it was one of the most fun online games I ever played)
The Japanese have hacked the servers now
@@Luci_the_Demon well on one hand that sucks, on the other im surprised they still play sub wars
@@metalbamboo2238 same here, but if I say what I really wanna say about them I'll come off as racist
@@Luci_the_Demon yes and no, if you say most of them do something, its not really that racist, but if you say they do it because of their race then yeah its racist
Honestly forgot that sub wars even was f2p. I though it just had a demo or something. It’s gimmick was it was a proper real-time player-on-player game.
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS GAME FOR YEARS, I REMEMBER PLAYING IT WHEN I WAS LITTLE AND FORGOT THE NAME
Well put together video. I love this game. It has a strange charm to me. If we have a loving dev team that can give the game the right love it needs. It could be great. But its just a dream for now.
You can use the masker to stop the timed mine from exploding if you get near it.
WAIT YOU CAN?!?!?
Bro, I miss my red octopus😭
27:00 This is why I at some points learned Morse Code (not in the traditional sense, but at some point I just knew the combinations). So I guess SDSW can teach you morse code if you really feel like it.
0:32 as a fellow owner of a game cartridge of Steeldiver, its not a crappy video, as theres not many videos by bigger yt channels about the game. also ive had steeldiver for i think about the same amount of time youve had it (in other words, i got it around the same time)
i miss this game
I still play😮
my mans out here uncovering memories i didnt know i had
Loved this game so fucking much man
Thx for making that video. That game deserves some love. Bought the game for 10 Euro cib when I bought my 2ds xl last year. Absolutely love the game. Bought the 2ds to play the pokemon games I missed out on, but instead I play steeldiver😅
this is just... it just keeps making me happy when i see something like this. as little brat i spent 487 hours with the steel diver sub wars , and still, after all those years I sometimes switch my 2DS on and launch the game. both steel diver and sub wars are alive. people are still playing these games.
26:25 no, the CPU's are actually aimining and sometimes, when i was extremely low, they were able to kill me. Yes, watching the killcam of CPU just sitting there and shooting was and still is frustrating. and the supply ships aren't for free exp only, if you surface next to an allied ship, it will start repairing you. AND the coin thing about the "Fish Tank" map isn't the only unique game mechanic, this map also has the filter on the corners, and if you get close to them, they will start replenishing your air without surfacing, but there are tons of special game mechanics on the other maps
I managed to rack up over 400 hours in sub wars (which actually isn’t too much but whatever) and never noticed any pay to win elements. You’d get Lv100 garfish players who’d be insane and Lv5 Z-class players who’d just sit there and miss constantly. And even for child me, £0.89 was affordable for a cool sub. Some games have £60 dlc for about the same amount of content.
Thats awesome
sub wars is actually one of my favorite games of all time. it was so fun and different from most pvp games
This game, civilization revolution, and super mario on my old 3ds. Man the memories, older now😢
They forgot my man Dante Cruz in Super Smash bros.
the steel driver item in smash is one of my favorites, good video👍👍
I loved steel diver sub wars 🥰
how does this only have 100 views??!
Whaddup fluffy clan.
This is still the best game and I miss the community so much.
I dream of somebody making a remake for PlayStation or something, including a media like mii verse just for it.
Fluffy for life man.
Damn I remember I used to be in that clan 😢
i still want a sub diver on the switch
it was so fun and it was one of the only multiplayer games on the switch! it was really cool
I had a ton of fun with this game when the 3ds was new. I never understood the hate. Sure , it’s underwhelming for a first party Nintendo game, but why not improve upon it and make another?
Bennim, do more video game reviews, man. You really do have skills. You're pretty thorough like college level research. Let's see another one. 😊
ANOTHER VIDIEO GAME RETROSPECTIVE THIS IS GOOD
It is still online playing with 3 people
Bro I loved that game and Ironfall Invasion
Good video 👍
Thanks for making this video!
"in 2012, 9 year old me"
Me being 22 at the time: ... Ok I'm old!
I'm looking for its free premium CIA. Anyone can help?
good video 👍 😊 but I have to say, sdsw is waaaaay better than sd, multiplayer + submarine progression through level ups was sooo much fun!!
4:18 same!
ok but does anyone remember its free cousin steeldiver subwars?? that was such an awesome sequel
Have you watched the video yet
@@Bennim yea and i disagree with your review lol. try playing the online multiplayer or even the premium version lol
Any idea when I should try to play rando worldwide during the week? At what times of day are best?
usually around night. i tried this morning and nobody was on, but around 9pm western i was getting full lobbies
same with monster hunter 4 ultimate
@@lazarusmagellan2367 thank you. Im EST so it's like 11pm 🗿
@@karstengrenzig1821 Ahh thats unfortunate timing. I think around 10 would work for you too., ALso, im working with some people to stabilize the emulator so we can run SDSW on PC. This will make grouping up more convenient, as people can play from around the world with much less lag and in 1080p
@@karstengrenzig1821
It is necessary to play at the time of the Japanese they are generally present of 8h with 17h (French time) I do not know where you come from
@@lazarusmagellan2367 does ir work on PC??
More euphonium videos!
It has been a long time since I heard that name…
I play SDSW since its first release and still playing it today. Lemme know if u want info or idk
Is Sub Wars still up or did they shut the servers down?
It still runs with a Hand full of players
How did you get through this without mentioning the playable whales?
I can’t feel your pain in struggling to do the voice over, it hurts lol
Super,boring game