Cliff Holt what about on a jetliner yoke? I’ve seen multiple buttons and still can’t figure it out. I always thought it was related to autopilot or trimming.
@@jonweinraub I think the one you're referring to is the autopilot cutoff switch. It's in a quick spot so in an emergency you can grab it and detatch AP without having to take your hands off the stick/yoke
I've personally had trouble autofocusing on crows, specifically, with a few different lenses and bodies. I think the sheer blackness of the bird is just tricky for a lot of systems. That's my two-cent crackpot hypothesis, anyway.
I have several cameras and amongst them I have a tiny Canon EOS M50 and an M5 as street photography cameras. The AF is generally fantastic and has no issues tracking birds in flight and I even one day nailed tracking dragon flies! But guess what, it struggles with small dark birds, sitting on a branch with lots of branches and twigs, or simply sitting on the ground, like the one Jared couldn't focus on. It happened to me today, coincidentally. It confirmed focus, but I could clearly see it was out-of-focus in the EVF. I took a few shots just in case and yep, out-of-focus. Really weird, it focuses in situations I wouldn't expect it to be able to, then fails on a little bird LOL. Admittedly, the bird has to be in a busy background for it to fail.
Bought this lens few days ago for my Z6 and it's awesome. Crazy sharpness and the bokeh is so smooth. Like it much more than the 24 1.4 sigma. 950€ are not cheap but ok
here :) I have a Nikon DSLR. Z videos are naturally interesting, regardless from whom they come, as long as they are from brand agnostic trustworthy reviewers. However, in every such video, an AF misery seems confirmed again and again for Nikon Z, from the very Z beginnings until now. Only Nikon fanboys seem to be a bit more docile, of course, but they don't count, like no fanboys of any brand would do. They are "influencees" rather than "influencers".
@@tubularificationed I use D850 and Z6 on regular basis. Z6 AF is actually very good but Jared Polin knit picks stuff all the time and suggests Sony cameras and lenses are perfect. This not true! His Sony and Canon videos are more like paid ads if you pay attention to his tone. Reviewing Nikon products even his tone is so negative. S lenses are winning awards on all reputable websites but he always finds something to whine about and spew out negativity.
Yo I don't know why Nikon can't seen to get their lense game right. It's actually sad considering Nikon's history. I switched back to Canon recently, and I truly doubt I'll ever come back to Nikon. I like their cameras more than I liked their lenses. As for me and my money, both have to be on point if I'm going to spend my hard earned money on a cameras system. Nikon has been in the game way too long, not to be better in both departments.
It’s because not many users will consider wide angle for portrait or any other type of photo where shallow DOF just “delivers”. I love my FE 28/2 must admit it is difficult but rewarding.
Peter Betts yeah, I have 50 and 24, and must say, 24 really have some AF issues(and huge fall off). It is slow and misses some time. But anyway 24 mm 1.8s have some magic, I like this lens a lot.
50 f18.s and 85 1.8s I own both are super quick focus and no noticeable hunt/misses that I see with the 24 1.8s that tested for a few days. 24 did resolve great images, but the focus was wonky on Z7 with latest firmware. Ended up not buying as I have the 14-30 f4 s and the 24 1.8 wasn't really a strong need, more of a curiosity.
@@chandlermcgowan2038 No, he shot with Nikon for years and will always have a soft spot there. He's calling it as it is. Did you even watch the video? He "SHOWED YOU" that the AF point was right over the STATIC bird. The camera confirmed focus, but was focused on the rocks in the background, not where the AF point was, clearly on the bird. This can happen, especially if the subject is small in the frame and surrounded by lots of detail. You have to manually focus when this happens. Edit: I did find a workaround! I initially focused on other things at a similar distance to the bird and then back on the bird and it kept failing. Then I focused on something much closer to the camera and back on the bird and it snapped into focus right away. Had that failed, I would have manually focused with focus peaking.
I went out and tested my 50 again today. which I've been shooting for months with close to ZERO issues with autofocus. Eye AF was super snappy..idk what Jared is shooting but it's honestly amazing the amount of hate he gives Nikon for what must be miniscule things.
As someone who goes out to photograph birds whenever I have a spare minute I can tell you that the blacker they are the harder it is to get an acceptably in focus shot. I'm at the point where I will just manual focus birds such as Grackles, Red-shouldered Black birds, Ravens and Crows.
Just a note: Single blade apertures exist and have for a long time, they are mostly on consumer video cameras, basically a single blade moves across a v-shaped opening.
More of the cheap f1.8 S lenses which are not cheap in terms of price! Finally the first f1.2 lens which they should have done in the first place, because why make z mount and than make this f1.8 lenses, look at canon what amazing glas they do f1.2 and f2. Nikon will kill of the z mount anyway with the D780 and come to see a DSLR-Hybrid (with optical and digital viewfinder combinded) and f mount lenses is the real way to go!
@@kapapa3764 i don't know because i have only seen two pros using a mirrorless camera in my area, all the other keep using DSLR as i am too, because canon can't keep up with there mirrorless bodies in return. Yes, i would buy them, i know what i am talking about because i own all the 1.4 nikon produces execpt the 28mm and i also own the 200 f2 and 400 f2.8. Further more all the prime sigma art lenses and they only have 1.8 when necessary 14mm and 135mm. Lastly look at the build for the z mount lenses than look and feel the f mount and art lenses and tell me the z mount lenses don't feel cheap!
@@NOFKL Z-mount lenses feel absolutely as nice as the F-mounts! 24-70 f/2.8 Z feels every bit as good as the f-equivalent (except the Z does not suck). The 1.8's feel every bit as good as the 1.8 f-mounts. Yeah the 1.4's f-mounts feel better, but so is to be expected, since they are real pro-glas. I assume the future 1.2's and 1.4's Z-mount will do the same. The Z mount is a HUGE step forward in image quality over the F-mount. Nikon just need to speed up and put out the pro glas...
It's sad to see that I once followed you because your Nikon reviews were the best, but lately Nikon just sucks to you for reasons that actually are not accurate.
The buttons on the yolk (or cyclic as it's called) are for comms, and for the hook underneath being able to release the hook (not always wanted), if a fire fighting bucket is attached, it'll open the bladder on it to release the water and not the hole bucket. Things like that. :)
The "trigger" is a push-to-talk. When talking to air traffic control, he pulls the the trigger to transmit his mic output. Other switches on the stick could be trim/flaps/etc (airplane - not sure on a helo)
As someone who shot a lot of landscape I'd wait for the 14-24 2.8. Very rarely do you need to excessively blur out a mountain. Most landscape guys like sharp detail and a 14-24 would give you more creative options in terms of composition.
I really hope Nikon will license the Z-Mount to Sigma and Tamron. That way they kill 2 birds with one stone: 1. Make money when Sigma and Tamron make money. 2. Increase the lens variety for the Z-mount and thus making the Z plattform a lot more attractive. (Catch up to Sony and Canon faster)
Hi Jared! As from my experience using Z6 since august last year, i have same "problem" with autofocus. I think is just a matter of tweaking the algorithm to prioritise closer subject in the focused area. So, the "problem" is that the box sometimes is too big, and pin-point setting is preferred but is slower to focus and slow to move around. Also while using smaller box, autofocus system goes back and forward because of fewer points and especially in lower light but is way accurate on smaller subjects (i got some awesome focused wedding rings, right on the diamond stone). For example, i got a couple of missed shots of people when i focus their heads because the AF box is bigger than their heads. So, you need to workaround and focus on chest for example. So, from accuracy prospective, Z system is awesome and better than DSLR because it reproduce that result over and over again while my DSLRs missed when it doesn't supposed to miss. As for a great tip, map some button for 200% zoom while shooting. Once you zoomed to 200% in shooting mode, camera use AF-S to focus even is set to AF-C and that's how you focus precise and kinda fast on something small.
Doesn't sound like you ever learned how to really use the Z focus system. Mine doesn't hunt like that. It's fast and accurate with no hunting. At 7-8 lenses a year the Z system is going strong. ETA: With the Z50, you should be able to handhold the 24mm down to about 1/20 pretty easily if you've got good technique, but I know you like IBIS to pick up your room for you.
I care about fringing and CA, it looks terrible and ruins photos if it’s excessive. Aperture blade count typically tells me how round and smooth the bokeh can potentially be. So I care about that too. YMMV
Wrong, the 24mm f1.8G also has a 72mm front filter size and the 20mm f1.8G actually has an 77mm front filter size, I have both and love both so I know, but no big deal lol.
Glad to hear my Z7 2 AF is working as designed. Hunting is minimised if to use single point instead of pin point. I am old school and use single point, back button, and recompose as required.
who takes picture with a 24mm and 1.8? this is a wide lens, man. you will never get bokeh with a 24mm in a landscape photo. that’s just photo school 101.
you can, and you do. like he showed in the shrubbery bush shot, but he's saying the bokeh looks a bit.. jiggly. as if there was a long exposure slight camera shake, except there isnt. obviously at 24mm you're going to get less background separation than at 100mm, but its still there.
Well Jeff. I live in northern Norway and i must say we have in the darkest winter 3-4 hours of daylight. We shoot Aurora Borealis, we shoot other landscapes on "the darker side", and often only with light from tho moon. Why shouldnt we aim for the fastest possible glass? Its not all about the bokeh here.
awesome convincing presentation of your RAW - packs! The bokeh - with the shrubbery I love it. With the landscape, I totally agree. Is it something related to the glass, shape of the aperture blades? I would bet it's the image improvement algorithm - messing around in RAW! And - should Nikon open up to Sigma? totally agree
There just isn't enough subject to background distance to give actual bokeh is my bet. The dof is so deep at 24mm that the background was only slightly out of focus even at 1.8
It's not an "image improvement algorithm". It's a rotational micro-motion blur that's probably being caused by the rotational VR in the lens at high shutter speeds. Jared's 1/640 sec cockpit pic (#47) barely shows that effect, and his 1/160 sec Canyon pic (#80) doesn't show it at all. But the rest of his images go from 1/1250 sec to 1/8000 sec, and you can see it clearly in those. Turning off the lens VR (but not the IBIS) would probably get rid of it.
@@keithgoreham1463 That's most interesting. Obviously Jared had to use fast shutter speeds to show the bokeh at all in the bright light. With customized settings turning off these functions is probably dead-easy! Thank for the advice!
First off I definitely just spent 844 on a 85 1.8 s for z50 idk who’s stupid enough to only use the kit lenses but they’re not good enough for dark environments indoors. If you’re not buying the primes you’re not benefitting from buying into the system at all
i did try z6 with few z lenses and i can say its good camera with very good IBIS and the best image quality in 24mp range, i was comparing with my sony A7mk3 and fuji XT2. It's obvious you doing something here... i'm disappointed with sony i sold mine, ye there is good lenses for this system, but you never talk how sony sucks at many things one of them is IBIS which is really bad, viewfinder is bad(a7mk3), body ergonomics is bad, plastic parts and finish is bad, weather sealing not trustworthy, menus cumbersome. For me personaly arw files was harder to work with in terms of color, then with other systems raw files.... and + from what i've seen sony has more problems with hot pixels when doing long exposures
Honestly, for 24mm I'd be happy to just use the 24-70 F4 S lens. I don't think I'd be likely to use F1.8 with a 24mm for the type of shots I take. I did get the 35mm F1.8 S for lower light situations with street photography. I'm not sure the 24mm is a pleasing focal length on FF to my eyes for that kind of shot. Interesting about the focus issues you seem to have had. I haven't really had many problems (a few, but not many) with my Z6 but then again I'm not really pushing it to the extremes of performance. I guess ultimately there's no single answer for any of us. We have to find what works best for us, not someone else.
You've never seen bokeh like this before but have you ever shot any other 24/1.8 lens on that location? Bokeh from your other examples looks perfectly fine.
With sony's 24GM 1.4 at 200 euro's more at the moment this is just bad value. 11 blades, same weight. apterture ring that can be declicked for video, nice focus ring. MF/AF button and a programmable button. Doesn't help nikon owners but does show you are right its too expensive for what it gives.
Hi Jared, I've had this lens for a while and have to say I'm happy. But - unlike you, I mainly use it to photograph architecture and flowers. Since I do not have the problem with the autofocus. But it's true that the Nikon Z series sometimes brings you to the brink of despair when it comes to autofocus. I don't have that problem with the Panasonic S1R. I will get the 16-35mm f / 4.0 lens next week and I am excited to see if there are the same problems. Have a nice weekend and see you soon.
Hey Jared, you should reach out to that helicopter company, and see if you can get the contact information for that father/son duo you took a photo of. It’s a wonderful picture, and I’m sure they’d love to have that photo if you haven’t already been in contact with them. That’s a true life memory for those two, with a beautiful natural photo to back up the memory. Great work.
Thankfully I don't use 24mm for bokeh, its a landscape lens and even if doing environmental portraits, what is the point including the environment if it is out of focus? Im sure a blurred out cityscape might look cool but who knows in the situation the bokeh might be good.
Jared, you mention the front back focus thing the Nikon z cameras do, even though they are phase-detect is this similar to what we get with the Lumix S series with DFD Auto focus ?
I have no idea what the sales Algorithms are for RUclips but it’s absolutely hysterical the ad in front of this particular video is for lace front wigs... and cheap ones...... ironically for the one photographer on RUclips that has more hair than the rest...very amusing after a long tiring day on set to come across this:) 😎Cheers
@@dogblessamerica I agree with your last sentence. For landscape we use most f/8 or f/11. A very sharp lense is important but whether it is 1,8 or 2,8 wide open means nothing at all for landscape. It is easier with 2 zooms than 6 primes.
The trigger can sometimes be used for talking on the radio with other aircraft but that is usually the red button but it can be the trigger it depends on the aircraft
What is the special meaning of 1/640s exposure? Surely for sports something about 1/500 ... 1/1000s will be useful. But why exactly 1/640? Is it like a preset of cams?
I dunno. It's one thing to say something is over priced but another to tell the world "don't buy it". Seems like a really great 24mm I mean i paid almost $700 for my 28mm 1.8g 7 years ago. Camera market is shrinking rapidly and higher prices are a reality.
You need great bokeh from 24mm lens :) the problem with focus is in camera not in lens ... i hope that you will have once again nice content on you channel, big fan of you but it is to much sony/nikon ...
Hey Jared... (looks at RAWs) The "weird bokeh" that you point out in image 65 (and that I see in most of the other images) looks like a radial micro-motion blur to me. Meaning that either you were rotating the camera slightly around the center axis of the image, or your lens' rotational VR system was. Probably the latter, because it's the images with the highest shutter speeds that demonstrate this the worst. Note particularly the motion-smearing of the spindly bush stems (at what should be a solid 1/1500 sec). The bush nearest the man is the least affected, while the other two are a mess despite being in the same image plane. They're not out of focus so much as smeared, and this is consistent with a how a radial motion blur would be more pronounced at the edges of the image than the center. In image 137 the crow is out of focus, but there's a clear directional blurring going on too. Which would also be consistent with a slight rotation around the center of the image. Even though you shot that one at 1/8000 of a second, and both it and the bush should not have had any motion blurring whatsoever. This reminds me of the tendency for micro-motion blurring that I used to see on my D850's (it's a high-megapixel thing), and is why I always turned off the lens VR at shutter speeds faster than 1/500 of a second. It might be worth your time to run some brick-wall tests with the lens stabilization (not the IBIS) turned on, and then off. Maybe with another native VR lens as a control.
Interesting but it's not for me. Have you done a comparison between Prime lens and Zoom lens. I have Nikon 24-85 F 2.8 D lens and for me it's fine. I understand why you jumped to Sony. The focusing but my DSLR are fine for me.
Jared, it's not just the small bird. I was trying to take photos of my friend who is a full size human and it back focus... I was like what the hell? That was the last straw before I returned the z6
Don't have the focus issues with my Nikon 50 and 85 1.8 but do on occasion with the 24 at the lower f-stops. Just curious why shoot all of your photos at f1.8? most of us rarely use that in the situation you used it? The autofocus issue goes away by f4.0. As for the bokeh, who expects to get stunning bokeh on scrubby canyon walls?
Why only you have problems with focus hunting on Z cameras? I know dozens of Z owners and none report that problem. I am a moderator for a large Nikon community and if anyone was having your problem someone would asked about this. Maybe ask someone for help, someone who regularly uses these superb lens and camera,. I suspect it is just a strong bias against Nikon now that Sony is paying you. No one should be fooled by this sort of hit piece. Anyone wanting more objective reviews of the lens or any of the Z mount native lenses will confirm that the S lenses are the sharpest corner to corner of any lenses of the same FL, They have virtually zero ca/color fringing and in every case have better optical performance compared to same FL F mount lenses, The only F lens that matched the 85 1.8S in the very center was the Sigma 85 1.4 ART but it fall off significantly away from the center. I have all the fast primes and mid FL Nikkor zooms and none are as good as the S lenses, and at much lower price. You lose a lot of credibility with experienced pros when reporting just the opposite of what they are getting every day in performance. They would not be switching from D850 and F quality lenses to Z if what you claim was true.
I have the problem. So there that. You also miss the point that the canera focuses fine. It just doesn’t let me move points fast enough and other things.
I wish there would have been a long exposure shot of stars - or any highlights against a dark background, just to see how well the lens deals with fringing, bokeh etc.
Doesn't have VR? Some how I think photographers have managed to still get sharp shots without VR in every lens. Yes it's helpful, as is IBIS but a good photographer will also knkow how and when good technique trumps the technology. Plus it's my feeling that VR isn't as effective at shorter FL which is why many short FL lenses (under 50mm or so) are not stabilized (from many brands, not just NIkon). I'm wondering if the focusing on the Z's tries to mimic how one would manually focus. At least I've been instructed (for manual focus) to throw the lens out of focus, then slowly dial in focus until you think it's sharp and then a hair past that, then back off again to ensure you've found the sharpest focus. I have seen on some cameras where it will lock focus, and then a fraction of a second later, readjust and re-lock focus again, very subtly so I'm not sure. I'm sure if the Nikon Z's do this on all lenses, it's by design and not necessarily a defect or problem. It's maybe Nikon's way of ensure sharpest / the most accurate focus and likely has to do with the camera not having cross-type focus points. I will say that it would be nice if the camera would change the focus point color (when in AF-C mode) to tell you it's in focus, or at least show the little dot in the lower corner of the EVF like it does on DSLRs to indicate that the lens if focused, but for some reason, Nikon doesn't do this. Even if the focus point could flash green and then go back to red, to confirm it has locked focus, that would be nice.
@@matthewwells1606 I also have never seen this behavior. I shot close to 30 weddings in 2019 with this and the a7iii. Side by side the a7iii has better AF, but the z6's AF is certainly capable. I have heard the z7 does this, but I have never used one, but my z6 on the current firmware does not.
@@matthewwells1606 "figured out how to use the AF system" Focus point on subject. Press focus button. Camera focuses. It's not whether someone "knows how" to use the focusing system. It either works well or it doesn't. In this case with the Z7 and this lens, it didn't. In bright, hard sunlight. It shouldn't have missed. If you can find a way to blame Jared for that, I applaud you for being able to make up an excuse for absolutely anything.
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The “Red Trigger” is not for missiles or guns but used to key the transmitter for the radio.
Cliff Holt what about on a jetliner yoke? I’ve seen multiple buttons and still can’t figure it out. I always thought it was related to autopilot or trimming.
@@jonweinraub I think the one you're referring to is the autopilot cutoff switch. It's in a quick spot so in an emergency you can grab it and detatch AP without having to take your hands off the stick/yoke
It is the autopilot disconnect button
people who get so surprised when Jared says "horizontical" are clearly new to his channel
he's been saying that for years
The plant is called Ocotillo, gets small reddish flowers when bloom.
Carl Jarvinen but don’t fall on them😂
I've personally had trouble autofocusing on crows, specifically, with a few different lenses and bodies. I think the sheer blackness of the bird is just tricky for a lot of systems. That's my two-cent crackpot hypothesis, anyway.
I have several cameras and amongst them I have a tiny Canon EOS M50 and an M5 as street photography cameras. The AF is generally fantastic and has no issues tracking birds in flight and I even one day nailed tracking dragon flies! But guess what, it struggles with small dark birds, sitting on a branch with lots of branches and twigs, or simply sitting on the ground, like the one Jared couldn't focus on. It happened to me today, coincidentally. It confirmed focus, but I could clearly see it was out-of-focus in the EVF. I took a few shots just in case and yep, out-of-focus.
Really weird, it focuses in situations I wouldn't expect it to be able to, then fails on a little bird LOL. Admittedly, the bird has to be in a busy background for it to fail.
Bought this lens few days ago for my Z6 and it's awesome. Crazy sharpness and the bokeh is so smooth. Like it much more than the 24 1.4 sigma. 950€ are not cheap but ok
I enjoy it with Nothern Light photo.
Yes it's an awesome astro lens
When you are watching Jared Polin even if you don’t have a Nikon
He is making videos for non Nikon users.
here :) I have a Nikon DSLR. Z videos are naturally interesting, regardless from whom they come, as long as they are from brand agnostic trustworthy reviewers. However, in every such video, an AF misery seems confirmed again and again for Nikon Z, from the very Z beginnings until now. Only Nikon fanboys seem to be a bit more docile, of course, but they don't count, like no fanboys of any brand would do. They are "influencees" rather than "influencers".
@@tubularificationed I use D850 and Z6 on regular basis. Z6 AF is actually very good but Jared Polin knit picks stuff all the time and suggests Sony cameras and lenses are perfect. This not true! His Sony and Canon videos are more like paid ads if you pay attention to his tone. Reviewing Nikon products even his tone is so negative. S lenses are winning awards on all reputable websites but he always finds something to whine about and spew out negativity.
@@guddakaka Agreed! I have been noticing that for awhile now!
Yo I don't know why Nikon can't seen to get their lense game right. It's actually sad considering Nikon's history. I switched back to Canon recently, and I truly doubt I'll ever come back to Nikon. I like their cameras more than I liked their lenses. As for me and my money, both have to be on point if I'm going to spend my hard earned money on a cameras system. Nikon has been in the game way too long, not to be better in both departments.
I’m curious... how much does Sony pay you?
I don't think many people are worried about bokeh on wide-angle lenses ...
you would be surprised.. quite a lot
It’s because not many users will consider wide angle for portrait or any other type of photo where shallow DOF just “delivers”. I love my FE 28/2 must admit it is difficult but rewarding.
With my 50mm f1.8 S lens ..that focuses instantaneously on my Z7 ...Everytime
Peter Betts yeah, I have 50 and 24, and must say, 24 really have some AF issues(and huge fall off). It is slow and misses some time. But anyway 24 mm 1.8s have some magic, I like this lens a lot.
Yeah my 50 mm 1.8 is fine too. Jared just hates on Nikon a lot lol.
50 f18.s and 85 1.8s I own both are super quick focus and no noticeable hunt/misses that I see with the 24 1.8s that tested for a few days. 24 did resolve great images, but the focus was wonky on Z7 with latest firmware. Ended up not buying as I have the 14-30 f4 s and the 24 1.8 wasn't really a strong need, more of a curiosity.
@@chandlermcgowan2038 No, he shot with Nikon for years and will always have a soft spot there. He's calling it as it is. Did you even watch the video? He "SHOWED YOU" that the AF point was right over the STATIC bird. The camera confirmed focus, but was focused on the rocks in the background, not where the AF point was, clearly on the bird.
This can happen, especially if the subject is small in the frame and surrounded by lots of detail. You have to manually focus when this happens.
Edit: I did find a workaround! I initially focused on other things at a similar distance to the bird and then back on the bird and it kept failing. Then I focused on something much closer to the camera and back on the bird and it snapped into focus right away. Had that failed, I would have manually focused with focus peaking.
I went out and tested my 50 again today. which I've been shooting for months with close to ZERO issues with autofocus. Eye AF was super snappy..idk what Jared is shooting but it's honestly amazing the amount of hate he gives Nikon for what must be miniscule things.
As someone who goes out to photograph birds whenever I have a spare minute I can tell you that the blacker they are the harder it is to get an acceptably in focus shot.
I'm at the point where I will just manual focus birds such as Grackles, Red-shouldered Black birds, Ravens and Crows.
I have the 24mm f/1.8 S lens and I love it
Did you have any 24 primes before? Is it always have so much fall off?
Егор Владимирович I don’t have a fall off issue
@@egor1gThere's not that much fall off: www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-nikkor-z-24mm-f-1-8s-lens-review--34224/performance
Just a note: Single blade apertures exist and have for a long time, they are mostly on consumer video cameras, basically a single blade moves across a v-shaped opening.
Hopefully 2020 will be a good year for Nikon Z-Mount lenses.
More of the cheap f1.8 S lenses which are not cheap in terms of price! Finally the first f1.2 lens which they should have done in the first place, because why make z mount and than make this f1.8 lenses, look at canon what amazing glas they do f1.2 and f2. Nikon will kill of the z mount anyway with the D780 and come to see a DSLR-Hybrid (with optical and digital viewfinder combinded) and f mount lenses is the real way to go!
@@NOFKL nothing cheap about the 1.8s they shoot some amazing photos
@@kapapa3764 If you're willing to use manual focus, you can get an F-Mount 25mm F0.95 Zhongyi SpeedMaster for just $350. Eat it Noct!
@@kapapa3764 i don't know because i have only seen two pros using a mirrorless camera in my area, all the other keep using DSLR as i am too, because canon can't keep up with there mirrorless bodies in return. Yes, i would buy them, i know what i am talking about because i own all the 1.4 nikon produces execpt the 28mm and i also own the 200 f2 and 400 f2.8. Further more all the prime sigma art lenses and they only have 1.8 when necessary 14mm and 135mm. Lastly look at the build for the z mount lenses than look and feel the f mount and art lenses and tell me the z mount lenses don't feel cheap!
@@NOFKL Z-mount lenses feel absolutely as nice as the F-mounts! 24-70 f/2.8 Z feels every bit as good as the f-equivalent (except the Z does not suck). The 1.8's feel every bit as good as the 1.8 f-mounts. Yeah the 1.4's f-mounts feel better, but so is to be expected, since they are real pro-glas. I assume the future 1.2's and 1.4's Z-mount will do the same. The Z mount is a HUGE step forward in image quality over the F-mount. Nikon just need to speed up and put out the pro glas...
f1.8 is not only for better separation but it's also important for low light photography and astrophotography.
Your "bush"" is an ocotillo. Looks dead most of the time, but leafs out like crazy with any rain and has really cool flowers.
It's sad to see that I once followed you because your Nikon reviews were the best, but lately Nikon just sucks to you for reasons that actually are not accurate.
The buttons on the yolk (or cyclic as it's called) are for comms, and for the hook underneath being able to release the hook (not always wanted), if a fire fighting bucket is attached, it'll open the bladder on it to release the water and not the hole bucket. Things like that. :)
New word "horizontical"
It's ancient, actually... Jared has coined it years ago!
The "trigger" is a push-to-talk. When talking to air traffic control, he pulls the the trigger to transmit his mic output. Other switches on the stick could be trim/flaps/etc (airplane - not sure on a helo)
As someone who shot a lot of landscape I'd wait for the 14-24 2.8. Very rarely do you need to excessively blur out a mountain. Most landscape guys like sharp detail and a 14-24 would give you more creative options in terms of composition.
I really hope Nikon will license the Z-Mount to Sigma and Tamron. That way they kill 2 birds with one stone:
1. Make money when Sigma and Tamron make money.
2. Increase the lens variety for the Z-mount and thus making the Z plattform a lot more attractive. (Catch up to Sony and Canon faster)
Before the invention of crowbars, most crows drank at home.
just got my z6. so so happy with it. no complaints so far. great cammera
Hi Jared! As from my experience using Z6 since august last year, i have same "problem" with autofocus. I think is just a matter of tweaking the algorithm to prioritise closer subject in the focused area. So, the "problem" is that the box sometimes is too big, and pin-point setting is preferred but is slower to focus and slow to move around. Also while using smaller box, autofocus system goes back and forward because of fewer points and especially in lower light but is way accurate on smaller subjects (i got some awesome focused wedding rings, right on the diamond stone).
For example, i got a couple of missed shots of people when i focus their heads because the AF box is bigger than their heads. So, you need to workaround and focus on chest for example.
So, from accuracy prospective, Z system is awesome and better than DSLR because it reproduce that result over and over again while my DSLRs missed when it doesn't supposed to miss.
As for a great tip, map some button for 200% zoom while shooting. Once you zoomed to 200% in shooting mode, camera use AF-S to focus even is set to AF-C and that's how you focus precise and kinda fast on something small.
If helicopters are like airplanes, then the trigger is the radio transmit button. 👍
Doesn't sound like you ever learned how to really use the Z focus system. Mine doesn't hunt like that. It's fast and accurate with no hunting. At 7-8 lenses a year the Z system is going strong. ETA: With the Z50, you should be able to handhold the 24mm down to about 1/20 pretty easily if you've got good technique, but I know you like IBIS to pick up your room for you.
I didn’t learn to use the focus system? What?
@@froknowsphoto You seem to have outsized problems with an excellent AF system that other people have no problems with. Screams user error.
when you're watching all Jared's videos for the giveaway
50mm still my favourite prime
I care about fringing and CA, it looks terrible and ruins photos if it’s excessive.
Aperture blade count typically tells me how round and smooth the bokeh can potentially be. So I care about that too.
YMMV
Wrong, the 24mm f1.8G also has a 72mm front filter size and the 20mm f1.8G actually has an 77mm front filter size, I have both and love both so I know, but no big deal lol.
Patrick Smith to clarify, he was talking about the prior 1.8 Z lenses, not f-mount. We should have been more clear on that
@@stepheneckert4006 Oh I see, haha oops sorry than!
Patrick Smith no worries! Our fault for not specifying!
Glad to hear my Z7 2 AF is working as designed. Hunting is minimised if to use single point instead of pin point. I am old school and use single point, back button, and recompose as required.
Jared I have the same focusing issue with my 24-70S and 35S
who takes picture with a 24mm and 1.8? this is a wide lens, man. you will never get bokeh with a 24mm in a landscape photo. that’s just photo school 101.
you can, and you do. like he showed in the shrubbery bush shot, but he's saying the bokeh looks a bit.. jiggly. as if there was a long exposure slight camera shake, except there isnt. obviously at 24mm you're going to get less background separation than at 100mm, but its still there.
He should've done an astrophotography test too. Wide angle fast glass is in its element here.
Im not the best photgrapher, but this Jared is getting worst and worst. Ricci Talks has a very good channel, much better than this crap.
Well Jeff. I live in northern Norway and i must say we have in the darkest winter 3-4 hours of daylight. We shoot Aurora Borealis, we shoot other landscapes on "the darker side", and often only with light from tho moon. Why shouldnt we aim for the fastest possible glass? Its not all about the bokeh here.
"dark black" really?
awesome convincing presentation of your RAW - packs!
The bokeh - with the shrubbery I love it. With the landscape, I totally agree. Is it something related to the glass, shape of the aperture blades? I would bet it's the image improvement algorithm - messing around in RAW!
And - should Nikon open up to Sigma? totally agree
There just isn't enough subject to background distance to give actual bokeh is my bet. The dof is so deep at 24mm that the background was only slightly out of focus even at 1.8
It's not an "image improvement algorithm". It's a rotational micro-motion blur that's probably being caused by the rotational VR in the lens at high shutter speeds. Jared's 1/640 sec cockpit pic (#47) barely shows that effect, and his 1/160 sec Canyon pic (#80) doesn't show it at all. But the rest of his images go from 1/1250 sec to 1/8000 sec, and you can see it clearly in those. Turning off the lens VR (but not the IBIS) would probably get rid of it.
@@keithgoreham1463 That's most interesting. Obviously Jared had to use fast shutter speeds to show the bokeh at all in the bright light. With customized settings turning off these functions is probably dead-easy! Thank for the advice!
Hi Jared, “Shrubbery” (Yes a Monty Python reference) = Ocotillo
I'm impressed by how little you used the word * Again * Jared. Great video, loved the wind tunnel test as always haha
The "yoke" as you called it is actually called cyclic and the trigger on the rear side of it is to transmit on the radio
Thank you for the information! 😊
That makes sense, as you have to keep both hands on the controls in a copter.
Sounds like a good enough reason to add the 24mm to my S lens collection.
Jared, you seem a little more calm than usual - voice is a little more toned down, more explanation and less selling. I like it!
I wish we could see more of these videos from Jared. The Z8 with some 35mm f1.2 action in the desert.
First off I definitely just spent 844 on a 85 1.8 s for z50 idk who’s stupid enough to only use the kit lenses but they’re not good enough for dark environments indoors. If you’re not buying the primes you’re not benefitting from buying into the system at all
I oNLy ShOot PriMeS...
why do you use such high shutter speed? 1/5000 to take a still picture of a branch??? what am I missing Jared.
i did try z6 with few z lenses and i can say its good camera with very good IBIS and the best image quality in 24mp range, i was comparing with my sony A7mk3 and fuji XT2. It's obvious you doing something here... i'm disappointed with sony i sold mine, ye there is good lenses for this system, but you never talk how sony sucks at many things one of them is IBIS which is really bad, viewfinder is bad(a7mk3), body ergonomics is bad, plastic parts and finish is bad, weather sealing not trustworthy, menus cumbersome. For me personaly arw files was harder to work with in terms of color, then with other systems raw files.... and + from what i've seen sony has more problems with hot pixels when doing long exposures
Honestly, for 24mm I'd be happy to just use the 24-70 F4 S lens. I don't think I'd be likely to use F1.8 with a 24mm for the type of shots I take. I did get the 35mm F1.8 S for lower light situations with street photography. I'm not sure the 24mm is a pleasing focal length on FF to my eyes for that kind of shot.
Interesting about the focus issues you seem to have had. I haven't really had many problems (a few, but not many) with my Z6 but then again I'm not really pushing it to the extremes of performance. I guess ultimately there's no single answer for any of us. We have to find what works best for us, not someone else.
Skittles is my favorite preset of fropack 1 and 2. I like others as well but Skittles is by far my most used one.
I bought the bundle and its saweeeet thanks Frobro
You've never seen bokeh like this before but have you ever shot any other 24/1.8 lens on that location? Bokeh from your other examples looks perfectly fine.
Your not a Nikon fan or a Landscape photographer and that came across well with your description of this Landscape lens
Thanks for the Print!!!!! It shall be framed and cherished... thanks again Mr. Fro!!!
Are you talking about good or bad bokeh?
With sony's 24GM 1.4 at 200 euro's more at the moment this is just bad value. 11 blades, same weight. apterture ring that can be declicked for video, nice focus ring. MF/AF button and a programmable button. Doesn't help nikon owners but does show you are right its too expensive for what it gives.
with the bird yes thats annoying.. but shooting really dark subjects can be tricky.. but simply twist th ring focus peak for a second boom done
Hi Jared, I've had this lens for a while and have to say I'm happy. But - unlike you, I mainly use it to photograph architecture and flowers. Since I do not have the problem with the autofocus. But it's true that the Nikon Z series sometimes brings you to the brink of despair when it comes to autofocus. I don't have that problem with the Panasonic S1R. I will get the 16-35mm f / 4.0 lens next week and I am excited to see if there are the same problems. Have a nice weekend and see you soon.
maybe the lens is vegetarian and doesn´t want to shoot the bird, just maybe
Hey Jared, you should reach out to that helicopter company, and see if you can get the contact information for that father/son duo you took a photo of. It’s a wonderful picture, and I’m sure they’d love to have that photo if you haven’t already been in contact with them.
That’s a true life memory for those two, with a beautiful natural photo to back up the memory. Great work.
I already sent them the photos. They found me after.
@@froknowsphoto Awesome, well done!
I already have the 35mm f/1.8 of this lens, but currently am thinking about selling it to get the 24mm, would this be a good move or no?
Gee, Jared "I don't care" Polin, kinda funny that he doesn't give a crap.
Those buttons do a number of different things but generally those small triggers are "Push to Talks" for the radio
Was that helicopter blade 1 or 9 blades? Did you try manually focusing on a dark object to figure that focusing problem? Great video.
Thankfully I don't use 24mm for bokeh, its a landscape lens and even if doing environmental portraits, what is the point including the environment if it is out of focus? Im sure a blurred out cityscape might look cool but who knows in the situation the bokeh might be good.
I cannot understand your judgment! The Z 24 mm 1.8 is very good. I have carried out all the tests and come to a completely different result!
Jared, you mention the front back focus thing the Nikon z cameras do, even though they are phase-detect is this similar to what we get with the Lumix S series with DFD Auto focus ?
Horazonitcal 😂😂😂 nice vid 👊🏻
Can I ask where your focus point was when photographing the father and son at F1.8? Thanks!
Great review. But no long exposure shots, Jared? I would have liked to see what it could do on a tripod.
I don’t use tripods I’m not the guy for that.
I have no idea what the sales Algorithms are for RUclips but it’s absolutely hysterical the ad in front of this particular video is for lace front wigs... and cheap ones...... ironically for the one photographer on RUclips that has more hair than the rest...very amusing after a long tiring day on set to come across this:) 😎Cheers
24 is a very nice focal lenght for landscape. But we never use f/1.8, so we don't need that lens either.
It's a nice small size, and I'll bet sharp from corner to corner. The 1.8 isn't critical but useful for astro and general purpose
@@dogblessamerica I agree with your last sentence. For landscape we use most f/8 or f/11. A very sharp lense is important but whether it is 1,8 or 2,8 wide open means nothing at all for landscape. It is easier with 2 zooms than 6 primes.
The trigger can sometimes be used for talking on the radio with other aircraft but that is usually the red button but it can be the trigger it depends on the aircraft
In a Fro video commenting on the camera being on the edge of the cabinet is the least of the problems.
The AF should be much better with the z6ii or z7ii, right. Also with THIS 24mm f/1.8.
What is the special meaning of 1/640s exposure? Surely for sports something about 1/500 ... 1/1000s will be useful. But why exactly 1/640? Is it like a preset of cams?
I dunno. It's one thing to say something is over priced but another to tell the world "don't buy it". Seems like a really great 24mm I mean i paid almost $700 for my 28mm 1.8g 7 years ago. Camera market is shrinking rapidly and higher prices are a reality.
Anyone else notice the chromatic aberration on the back of that guy facing the canyon when shot at 2.8?
You need great bokeh from 24mm lens :) the problem with focus is in camera not in lens ... i hope that you will have once again nice content on you channel, big fan of you but it is to much sony/nikon ...
Your reviews are fantastic.... I really appreciate them immensely... Ty from theUK
I have been really enjoying my Z lenses. They look more clear than my adapted primes.
Hey Jared... (looks at RAWs) The "weird bokeh" that you point out in image 65 (and that I see in most of the other images) looks like a radial micro-motion blur to me. Meaning that either you were rotating the camera slightly around the center axis of the image, or your lens' rotational VR system was. Probably the latter, because it's the images with the highest shutter speeds that demonstrate this the worst. Note particularly the motion-smearing of the spindly bush stems (at what should be a solid 1/1500 sec). The bush nearest the man is the least affected, while the other two are a mess despite being in the same image plane. They're not out of focus so much as smeared, and this is consistent with a how a radial motion blur would be more pronounced at the edges of the image than the center. In image 137 the crow is out of focus, but there's a clear directional blurring going on too. Which would also be consistent with a slight rotation around the center of the image. Even though you shot that one at 1/8000 of a second, and both it and the bush should not have had any motion blurring whatsoever.
This reminds me of the tendency for micro-motion blurring that I used to see on my D850's (it's a high-megapixel thing), and is why I always turned off the lens VR at shutter speeds faster than 1/500 of a second. It might be worth your time to run some brick-wall tests with the lens stabilization (not the IBIS) turned on, and then off. Maybe with another native VR lens as a control.
Interesting but it's not for me. Have you done a comparison between Prime lens and Zoom lens. I have Nikon 24-85 F 2.8 D lens and for me it's fine. I understand why you jumped to Sony. The focusing but my DSLR are fine for me.
I really like your wind tunnel test 🌬️🤣🤣🤣
Jared, it's not just the small bird. I was trying to take photos of my friend who is a full size human and it back focus... I was like what the hell? That was the last straw before I returned the z6
I feel personally attacked at 2:16.. oh well, guess I gotta find a lens that's just that but with stabilization
That focus issue seems odd. I never get that on mine. Is it a video thing?
Don't have the focus issues with my Nikon 50 and 85 1.8 but do on occasion with the 24 at the lower f-stops. Just curious why shoot all of your photos at f1.8? most of us rarely use that in the situation you used it? The autofocus issue goes away by f4.0. As for the bokeh, who expects to get stunning bokeh on scrubby canyon walls?
Why only you have problems with focus hunting on Z cameras? I know dozens of Z owners and none report that problem. I am a moderator for a large Nikon community and if anyone was having your problem someone would asked about this. Maybe ask someone for help, someone who regularly uses these superb lens and camera,. I suspect it is just a strong bias against Nikon now that Sony is paying you. No one should be fooled by this sort of hit piece. Anyone wanting more objective reviews of the lens or any of the Z mount native lenses will confirm that the S lenses are the sharpest corner to corner of any lenses of the same FL, They have virtually zero ca/color fringing and in every case have better optical performance compared to same FL F mount lenses, The only F lens that matched the 85 1.8S in the very center was the Sigma 85 1.4 ART but it fall off significantly away from the center. I have all the fast primes and mid FL Nikkor zooms and none are as good as the S lenses, and at much lower price. You lose a lot of credibility with experienced pros when reporting just the opposite of what they are getting every day in performance. They would not be switching from D850 and F quality lenses to Z if what you claim was true.
I have the problem. So there that. You also miss the point that the canera focuses fine. It just doesn’t let me move points fast enough and other things.
I've seriously been looking at picking up techart's tce-1 adaptor so i can put some of that third party mirrorless glass for sony onto my z6
I really need a good camera
No good reason that lens couldn't focus on the crow. Was it the lens or the camera's focusing system? Either way, it's a massive fail.
John Drummond it’s a Z series problem when trying to focus on low contrast subjects.
I wish there would have been a long exposure shot of stars - or any highlights against a dark background, just to see how well the lens deals with fringing, bokeh etc.
The bird could be focused on if you zoomed twice in the evf and manual focused. I do this all the time on my z50.
Doesn't have VR? Some how I think photographers have managed to still get sharp shots without VR in every lens. Yes it's helpful, as is IBIS but a good photographer will also knkow how and when good technique trumps the technology. Plus it's my feeling that VR isn't as effective at shorter FL which is why many short FL lenses (under 50mm or so) are not stabilized (from many brands, not just NIkon).
I'm wondering if the focusing on the Z's tries to mimic how one would manually focus. At least I've been instructed (for manual focus) to throw the lens out of focus, then slowly dial in focus until you think it's sharp and then a hair past that, then back off again to ensure you've found the sharpest focus. I have seen on some cameras where it will lock focus, and then a fraction of a second later, readjust and re-lock focus again, very subtly so I'm not sure. I'm sure if the Nikon Z's do this on all lenses, it's by design and not necessarily a defect or problem. It's maybe Nikon's way of ensure sharpest / the most accurate focus and likely has to do with the camera not having cross-type focus points.
I will say that it would be nice if the camera would change the focus point color (when in AF-C mode) to tell you it's in focus, or at least show the little dot in the lower corner of the EVF like it does on DSLRs to indicate that the lens if focused, but for some reason, Nikon doesn't do this. Even if the focus point could flash green and then go back to red, to confirm it has locked focus, that would be nice.
Maybe the crow is too small and has nos contrast at all? I doubt EOS R can do it too if u slap a 24mm prime on it and do the same...
These other cameras would not have an issue.
@@froknowsphoto Absolutely, I think the issue was in the twelve inches behind the camera. :-)
I owe you a drink. Hahahahahaha
8:41 hay you are going to shot a human 😿 haha
Could that weird bokeh be happening due to the electronic shutter? (since it has problems with fast movements, considering stabilization)
How is it possible that this lens is bigger than the Sony 24mm 1.4?
I agree that it is over priced. Not sure why the 50mm is 1/2 the price of the 24mm when they have many similar features.
Curious how this compares with the Nikon F mount 24 f 1.4 or the Sony G master 24 mm f 1.4 which is around $1400.
The z platform AF hunts excessively, next sentence, I had to hold my hand out to tell it was focusing it was so fast. Rolls Eyes
Not what I meant exactly.
Yeah, I don't think he ever really figured out how to use the AF system on the Z. Mine doesn't exhibit that behavior at all.
@@matthewwells1606 I also have never seen this behavior. I shot close to 30 weddings in 2019 with this and the a7iii. Side by side the a7iii has better AF, but the z6's AF is certainly capable. I have heard the z7 does this, but I have never used one, but my z6 on the current firmware does not.
@@matthewwells1606 "figured out how to use the AF system"
Focus point on subject. Press focus button. Camera focuses. It's not whether someone "knows how" to use the focusing system. It either works well or it doesn't. In this case with the Z7 and this lens, it didn't. In bright, hard sunlight. It shouldn't have missed.
If you can find a way to blame Jared for that, I applaud you for being able to make up an excuse for absolutely anything.
Zero AF issues here on my Z6
Hi Jared.. can you suggest any good Cine Prime lens with Nikon Z6?