What Kamala Harris' coronation says about the Democratic party | Reason Roundtable | July 29, 2024

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  • @dansmith680
    @dansmith680 2 месяца назад +17

    Your critique of Vance sounds parallel to corporate media. He's weird and too online. What a brilliant analysis.

    • @DoctorBailey1
      @DoctorBailey1 2 месяца назад

      Totally agree. Super vague critique and no specifics.

  • @narr0wm1nd49
    @narr0wm1nd49 2 месяца назад +17

    Can someone please point out exactly what conflicts of interest occurred on the supreme court such that we even need to discuss such a major rewrite of the constitution? So far I have yet to see one conflict of interest actually documented. Its mostly been 'we hate Thomas, he is a bad guy cause he has a rich friend'. But a rich friend giving you things isn't a conflict of interest until that friend is a plaintiff or at least somehow connected to a plaintiff. This seems like nothing more than a manufacture a campaign against Thomas who they dont like for his decisions.

    • @woodchuck003
      @woodchuck003 2 месяца назад

      Reminder that RGB's husband literally what's a consultant for people who had active pending cases before The Supreme Court.
      So the Democrats are lying when they claim going against Thomas is about ethics.
      We also have to remember that the Democrats were making up bullshit lies about Thomas in the 90s.
      At best the Democrats are just mad that they don't get to be dictators at worst the Democrats are just mad because they are racist.

  • @silveravnt
    @silveravnt 2 месяца назад +10

    Vance isn't perfect but beats the heck out of Kamala and anyone she'll pick for VP.
    If you're anti-war vote Trump
    If you think taxation is theft vote Trump

    • @Justin_Beaver564
      @Justin_Beaver564 2 месяца назад +2

      Tariffs are a tax

    • @MaxThaxton
      @MaxThaxton 2 месяца назад

      How about Chase Oliver? Trump is not anti-war, nor is he anti-taxation.

    • @chacegoodwin8626
      @chacegoodwin8626 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Justin_Beaver564 Alexander Hamilton did it so we didn't have to buy our cannons from other countries it made jobs in the US with us having a high dollar we need them before giving away all our manufacturing to cheaper countries we got to many dollars chasing to little goods

    • @LibertyOrDeath7230
      @LibertyOrDeath7230 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@MaxThaxton nor does he have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected.

    • @MaxThaxton
      @MaxThaxton 2 месяца назад

      ​@@LibertyOrDeath7230So? Lying about who Trump is and what he represents and then voting for him doesn't fix the problem.

  • @wesleywest4942
    @wesleywest4942 2 месяца назад +2

    Walz would be a weird choice. "Let's pick the guy who totally let the George Floyd reactions get totally out of hand." Other than that, he's nowhere near being a centrist.

  • @Buddhamaniac
    @Buddhamaniac 2 месяца назад +10

    re: "coconut" What seems especially cringe about that term is that it is routinely used as an insult on the left, "brown on the outside but white on the inside."

    • @bsmithhammer
      @bsmithhammer 2 месяца назад +2

      So it seems perfectly appropriate, then?

    • @mrw417
      @mrw417 2 месяца назад

      Pretty sure if Trump had said it first the screams of outrage would still be echoing through the canyon.

  • @_datapoint
    @_datapoint 2 месяца назад +20

    I hope “brat” gets overused into oblivion.

  • @ChiTownOriginator
    @ChiTownOriginator 2 месяца назад +33

    14:30 WHAT? 😂 Trump would be worse on the border???? Are you FOR open borders?

    • @davidrawlings6116
      @davidrawlings6116 2 месяца назад +12

      Yes, I had to pause and comment on that, too - HOW could it be any worse than it is right now??

    • @payleryder45
      @payleryder45 2 месяца назад

      They are, or at least like all of their nany-nany-boo-boo posing they're against anything practical or effective.

    • @Falconlibrary
      @Falconlibrary 2 месяца назад

      It doesn't get worse than it is right now. That woman is an idiot.

    • @4850937
      @4850937 2 месяца назад +4

      As long as they have a serious crim. record, and consume more than they produce

    • @rfphill
      @rfphill 2 месяца назад +11

      Reason lacking reason. Oh the irony.

  • @spikeontheroad2560
    @spikeontheroad2560 2 месяца назад +7

    the fact that reason magazine is consistently against antitrust legislation just baffles me. they've been bought up by the corptocracy and they should be a libertarian leading magazine and they're just not. they look for every excuse to explain why having less choices as consumers is good for business.

    • @bendecastro7841
      @bendecastro7841 2 месяца назад

      Hey would love to encourage you to read more about Austrian or at least Chicago economic understandings of the free market and consequences of government intervention. In a truly free market consumers and producers alike benefit from efficient function of so called monopolies, which naturally can never dominate a market for long without a competitor rising that does it better or forces them to do it better. Government intervention stifles economic growth and makes the entire economy less efficient

  • @davidfoarde558
    @davidfoarde558 2 месяца назад +11

    I’m only 16mins in but I’m just yelling “yesss” at my phone in agreement. The media and peoples ability to just change their whole demeanor in like 24hours…I feel I got whiplash it’s frankly a little disturbing. Knowing I’m not alone out here is comforting though so thank you.
    also the clips I saw from that white girl zoom…I’m not ready to comment on that yet 😂

    • @chuckecheese5251
      @chuckecheese5251 2 месяца назад

      And basically the last 20 years of media's daily operations imo since they turned on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that they were instrumental in creating until they day they decided the GOP was responsible instead of the entire media and virtually every American politician Obama in 2008 changed his opinion in every debate and nearly every day during his campaign while the whole of the media flipped every day to say it was always his position with Google flipping every day to hide the positions from the day before with Don Lemon 2009 telling black people to pull up their pants get a diploma a job and not get divorced to the divorce rate of the black community to be proof of racism and google flipping the algorithm in 2015-17 the media saying "we need to create an antifa in America" and "Antifa came from Germany to fight Hitler don't read any books on the topic only Mark Bray" to "we have no idea how antifa these brave grassroots freedom fighters emerged" to "antifa has always been in America and Italy has nothing to do with fascism" and google completely changing the history of fascism to suit the Democratic party and eliminating the entire history of it to "Joe Biden is the smartest sharpest president in American history and everything else is a conspiracy" to "look we all know Biden has sudden mental collapse" to "Biden is stepping down because Kamala was so good that biden had to step down black girl woman summer also BLM committed Zero acts of violence and any opposition is racist"

  • @andrewostman3135
    @andrewostman3135 2 месяца назад +16

    Mom used to say that people really liked Hillary Clinton until she opened her mouth and started having opinions. I think it's the same thing with Harris that people right now like the idea of her but the moment she starts to say anything it's going to ruin it.

    • @payleryder45
      @payleryder45 2 месяца назад

      Few people other than fairly hardcore Democrats liked Hillary. She was off-putting and phony from the gate.
      People really started to dislike her every time she grasped for power. Some people felt sorry for her when she was cheated on by Bill with Lewinsky. But then she tried to parlay that into power and people soured on her again.

  • @RuskiVixen
    @RuskiVixen 2 месяца назад +6

    The first sentence of this video turned off all curiosity about this conversation

  • @reddirtwalker8041
    @reddirtwalker8041 2 месяца назад +2

    41 minute mark. So Libertarians are like Kamala. They don't want to commit to a position or Idealology so we'll just not write down what our version of a Libertarian government looks like so we can play the field how it best suits us.

  • @payleryder45
    @payleryder45 2 месяца назад +8

    16:31 - Does Nick think he himself is less or more of a "fringe" character than Tucker?

  • @chuckecheese5251
    @chuckecheese5251 2 месяца назад +7

    @16:45 they aren't partisan journalists Nick they are political operators there is No Zero difference between them and the state as it's been since at least 2004

  • @owensmith5411
    @owensmith5411 2 месяца назад +11

    JD Vance does not seem to be part of the uniparty, unlike most senators. Maybe that is why you do not like him.

    • @rfphill
      @rfphill 2 месяца назад +4

      Reason seems to be shedding reason little by little...

    • @timsexton
      @timsexton 2 месяца назад

      @@rfphill Their use of the "Bat Signal" secret word affirmed ReasonTV is cucked, bought, sold, supplanted, subjugated, and is no longer permitted outside to play after the street lights come on.
      *_TRUST !!_*

    • @leechowning2712
      @leechowning2712 2 месяца назад

      They and breaking points both have serious issues with Donald, and JD is just more of the same.

  • @omarenriqueberrios8043
    @omarenriqueberrios8043 2 месяца назад +1

    It amazes me the venom they have towards JD Vance while speaking pf Democrat vp prospectives in hopeful terms.
    Just be fair and equally critical or own up your biases.

  • @JohnChalmers617
    @JohnChalmers617 2 месяца назад

    " If a sweater designed a human." Now that's funny!

  • @timsexton
    @timsexton 2 месяца назад +1

    I wish DJT would have chosen Byron Donalds as his VP pick. While Byron Donalds is bereft of political seasoning, political experience, and political accomplishments, Byron Donalds is most certainly solid & principled in that which is required of a future leader. These days, ReasonTV sounds like more of the same...
    *_TRUST !!_*

  • @PerryWidhalm
    @PerryWidhalm 2 месяца назад +1

    When did Libertarianism move away from Constitutional Conservatism?

  • @SpenserHartman
    @SpenserHartman 2 месяца назад +2

    I like these conversations but as usual I’m
    Annoyed at the amount of criticism aimed at the right compared to the left. The discussion on Vance was minutes on how he’s a cringe fake man baby or how will enact some extreme fascistic nightmare. Y’all said Kamala was ill prepared and that the coverage of her was cringe. Her resume as a prosecutor shows that she’s an evil person who is willing to use state violence to actually hurt people for political wins. As a politician she has zero clout or redeeming qualities but instead y’all focus ur guns on how cringe and authoritarian the right is.
    I think you lose credibility with conservative libertarians and kill any chance with y’all have with liberty minded repubs when u repeatedly miss the mark with disingenuous criticism.
    It’s like y’all hate ur Christian republican dads so much that you can’t be objective about how awful the left is.

  • @sheldonwheaton881
    @sheldonwheaton881 2 месяца назад +1

    Harris = Orama's fourth.💀

  • @jerdonclar8655
    @jerdonclar8655 2 месяца назад +3

    Any other media suggestions for a guy who recently realized he has more in common with the Libertarian party than the other two parties?

    • @payleryder45
      @payleryder45 2 месяца назад +1

      Masturbation for Dummies.

    • @zyzzer
      @zyzzer 2 месяца назад +1

      "Part of the Problem" podcast by Dave Smith. "Counter Flow" and "Peddling Fiction" are also good, not sure if they're technically libertarian but definitely not Republican or Democrat.

  • @elkinjohn
    @elkinjohn 2 месяца назад

    Cringe? vibe? what a substancel conversation!!1

  • @pctotty
    @pctotty 2 месяца назад +2

    When the feelings of relief go away, Kamala will come back to earth.

  • @angelikafieseler741
    @angelikafieseler741 2 месяца назад +2

    Please cancel me I’m a middle aged white woman so cringe

  • @pemulis808
    @pemulis808 2 месяца назад +1

    I love that the white women for Harris bit became a long spiels of ‘this whole thing is so stupid.’ And what’s stupider is that you’re supposed to feel weird for thinking that.

  • @TheWhiskyRebel
    @TheWhiskyRebel 2 месяца назад

    Nick Gillespie
    55:29 When I was growing up in Middletown, you could go to Middletown Pizza and offer to construct pizza boxes for them and, after building so many, you earned a slice of pizza.

  • @chacegoodwin8626
    @chacegoodwin8626 2 месяца назад +1

    I cant vote for her shes been awful with her gaslighting the last 4 years :/ plus unemployment is jumping up

  • @stevenslane3074
    @stevenslane3074 2 месяца назад

    Trump will regret not tapping Byron Donald's for V.P. during the Black Exodus from the Democrat Party.

  • @RBGHfam
    @RBGHfam 2 месяца назад +11

    I always get corporate dem out of reason, it feels like they are on the verge of taking one more sip of white wine and going full Penn Jillette, or at least some of them.

    • @tsufordman
      @tsufordman 2 месяца назад +6

      Their 2020 voting history would agree.

    • @payleryder45
      @payleryder45 2 месяца назад

      I would not be surprised if there wasn't an angel donor with plausible but phony separation from one or more of the Left wing Oligarchs who threw money around in the Trump era to fund things like "The Lincoln Project" that has "persuaded" these people of a few things.

    • @rfphill
      @rfphill 2 месяца назад

      Sigh... Sadly true.

    • @Justin_Beaver564
      @Justin_Beaver564 2 месяца назад

      Can you blame them when you look at the direction of the two parties over the last decade? The political environment that Libertarianism evolved out of in the 70s would be alien to today's audience.

    • @payleryder45
      @payleryder45 2 месяца назад

      @@Justin_Beaver564 Yes.

  • @ethandarcy5940
    @ethandarcy5940 2 месяца назад

    I would never portray libertarian types as THIS CRINGE in my most malicious parody. The Force is out of balance.

  • @sammmmmysluggggger
    @sammmmmysluggggger 2 месяца назад +9

    This is the most insipid little cocktail show i've come across

  • @akastewart
    @akastewart 2 месяца назад

    A Like for the ‘lazyboy’ gag. 😂

  • @ejmoreno270
    @ejmoreno270 2 месяца назад +2

    A) B R A T- doesn’t mean anything. That’s the point. It’s a vibe. Adjacent to WineAunt is the closest one can get to a definition
    B) Claremont Institute of Masculine Studies is probably the funniest thing I will hear this week. Nice job.
    Ave True to Caesar. Hail Victory.

    • @ejmoreno270
      @ejmoreno270 2 месяца назад

      Oh and (C); democrats are running a 2014 campaign. Harris’s team is signaling as if everywhere is a college campus from 10 years ago. That’s a 2014 era campaign in 2024. I feel this is a convenient shorthand.

  • @Smithistory
    @Smithistory 2 месяца назад

    I'm genuinely confused, shouldn't Reason support the dismantling of the administrative state? I would have liked to hear someone play devil's advocate there and see what Matt Welch came up with. I imagine it would be something like "not like this, that's too destabilizing, constitutional processes, etc." but I would have liked to hear that argument play out.

  • @chrisocony
    @chrisocony 2 месяца назад

    It is like we Democratic-leaning voters went from attending a funeral to attending a wedding.

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 2 месяца назад

    If both the Democratic and Republican parties get three substitutions per campaign, then Trump still has the opportunity to switch out Vance in favor of McCardle.

  • @Anderson33333
    @Anderson33333 2 месяца назад

    Ignoring the fact that Kamala is trying to hold every position.
    I completely disagree with the idea that the Jeffersonian and Jacksonian vision of America that Vance was suggesting was wrong.
    The executive branch having the power to decide what it does and most importantly does NOT do it's fundamental to having an elected executive branch.
    Congress has the right NOT to fund these positions or give them the legal authority to do anything.
    Just as the court has the right to NOT convict anyone the executive arrest under the laws of Congress. (Remember Mayberry never got his writ in 1803)
    No branch or combination of 2 branches in a Constitutional system can have the right to demand the anther DO anything they do not agree is constitutional.
    This is how I constitution is enforced by consensus not edict.
    It's also why communist states don't have constitutions that mean anything. There is no real division of power among parties that can dispute constitutionality.
    I know people attached to the idea of a permanent welfare state guaranteeing you services and its various politician's pet projects forever are terrified of this idea.
    It is precisely because our federal government was designed to protect liberty not services that it was designed with these checks and balances to enforce the same minimalist constitution.
    I don't know how you can pretend to be a libertarian and be scared of this Knowing the resulting outcome would be a far more limited government.
    This isn't a radical, This is just telling the court to be a court and decide innocence or guilt not dictate policy.

  • @davidkingsworthy4310
    @davidkingsworthy4310 2 месяца назад

    I agree with comments here, some really disappointing discourse about Vance... no libertarian analysis that I could see... am thumbs downing this video

  • @musicalcharge
    @musicalcharge 2 месяца назад +1

    'Tis a silly place.

  • @zyzzer
    @zyzzer 2 месяца назад

    What's going on with this video? Only 10k views in the first week while Reason has 1 million subscribers? Google censorship or something else?

  • @DHD52
    @DHD52 2 месяца назад +1

    Is Warren Farrel a... bad guy?

  • @liamwinter4512
    @liamwinter4512 2 месяца назад +9

    Heil the DNC, Heil Harris

  • @trailertrish2587
    @trailertrish2587 2 месяца назад

    There's nothing I want more than to see the first woman president but Kamala Harris is not that woman. I was afraid, initially, that she might end up being president by default.
    Politicians need to think before shooting their mouth off. Vance couldn't have made a worse impression when introducing himself. Everything out of his mouth was damaging to the Republican's mounting, but precarious rebranding as the "party of diverse appeal". If the Republican party wants to remain the "party of old white men" Vance is the guy to remind everyone. He didn't entertain for even a second that the people he insulted include his own supporters. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong in the future.

  • @wolflarson71
    @wolflarson71 2 месяца назад

    Ignore Suderman's review of Deadpool & Wolverine, which is easily the best Marvel movie in years. If you are a fan of stuff like The Eternals and The Marvels, then yeah, skip it.

  • @kurthertel4299
    @kurthertel4299 2 месяца назад

    The short happy life of Francis Macomber.

  • @JacobAnawalt
    @JacobAnawalt 2 месяца назад

    A good review, interesting comments overall. I found myself agreeing a lot with Nick which is not normal.
    On the book front, the parting shot that there are no new Hemingways and the reason why. I think that shows you may be stuck in the past. There have been many great novelist since Hemingway. Many great writers. Maybe they aren't a force of personality like before, and I think that's more of an era and a function of our times with more stars & etc, but there are many great writers and novels out. It just keeps growing. There is so much you can hardly keep up to sample them all and find your new Hemingway. I'll give a big plug to Brandon Sanderson for writing books that teens and adults can read and enjoy.

  • @dustinabc
    @dustinabc 2 месяца назад

    I wish libertarian media covered Libertarian candidates as much as they cover establishment candidates.
    They don't even give #ChaseOliver2024 1/10 the coverage they do of the establishment candidates.
    No wonder libertarians get almost no traction, since "our own" media largely behaves the same as corporate media, just from a slightly different angle, but on the same things.

  • @_datapoint
    @_datapoint 2 месяца назад

    Any guesses what Nick is doing while looking down while everyone else is talking and having a good time?

    • @rfphill
      @rfphill 2 месяца назад

      Doin' the Toobin...

    • @timsexton
      @timsexton 2 месяца назад

      @@rfphill No, no... Instead, Extra Creamy Jif applied to twig & berries while good doggie below furiously laps.
      *_TRUST !!_*

  • @Promano1978
    @Promano1978 2 месяца назад

    Marine corps veteran Gillespie

  • @forku5749
    @forku5749 2 месяца назад

    Bunch of dreamers

  • @jeffreysmith85
    @jeffreysmith85 2 месяца назад

    Harris is a cat lady especially with willie and montal

  • @10.6.12.
    @10.6.12. 2 месяца назад +1

    White women ... oh boy ...

  • @SvenErik_Lindstrom3
    @SvenErik_Lindstrom3 2 месяца назад +1

    Öööh, nothing.

  • @JP34.
    @JP34. 2 месяца назад +1

    La-Z-Boy 😂👏😂

  • @themattsutherland
    @themattsutherland 2 месяца назад

    I'm not sure I understand the Hemingway hate!

  • @alittleofeverything4190
    @alittleofeverything4190 2 месяца назад

    Kamalanomics

  • @99guspuppet8
    @99guspuppet8 2 месяца назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ love Nick what is your gender? drool over the lady what is your gender? Sometimes all four of you make me laugh.

  • @alchemist_one
    @alchemist_one 2 месяца назад

    It was a nice attempt at the pronunciation of Milwaukee at 0:00:37, but it missed the mark. Fortunately I've found a clip to help with that: ruclips.net/video/o5FT3IGXtAk/видео.html

  • @davidfoarde558
    @davidfoarde558 2 месяца назад

    I agree about a moveable feast..there was something a little weird about that book that stuck with me in a good way….I wouldn’t have been able to articulate this at the time but thinking about it now I believe it was the fact that I was very much into Hemingway and F Scott Fitzgerald and I probably had a bit of a romanticized idea of the hard drinking artist who understood humanity so well he was destined to forever be alone…and when I read the part of the book with the two of them I had this realization that they were both just annoying dicks. Fitzgerald was a dick because hemmingway wrote him that way and hemmingway was a dick for writing him that way. It was wonderful, a little piece of my youth was lost forever and I moved onto my mid twenties and Cormac McCarthy
    In all seriousness though they are both beautiful writers, for whom the bell tolls is also my favorite.
    I’m also a history nerd and in Tender is the Night Fitzgerald writes one of his characters describing WW1 and In like 2 paragraphs he explains it better than most 800pg books by historians

  • @LegalesePodcast
    @LegalesePodcast 2 месяца назад

    what is "brat"?

  • @soc2rob
    @soc2rob 2 месяца назад

    Did Nick’s dog die?

  • @theworkingprogressive127
    @theworkingprogressive127 2 месяца назад

    Boringest show ever?

  • @-in-the-meantime...
    @-in-the-meantime... 2 месяца назад

    Womens Autonomy '24🇺🇸

  • @jarulelamar2025
    @jarulelamar2025 2 месяца назад +8

    These four unpleaseant people are so smug. Do the so called american libertarians even have a candidate for the presidential election?

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 2 месяца назад

      The reason these people are smug is because the USA government, and the problems they face could have easily been solved decades ago if we had a functioning government. Before you vote libertarian, one of the things you need to realize is that the Democrats raise money from large corporations who want low cost labor for lots of immigrants, and the Republicans raise money from voters who see what a shttshow the border is. They are both abusing americans for money. They will never fix the border. Voting Republican or Democrat is voting for which party you want to abuse you for 4 years. a real S&M deal is the american democracy

    • @jderoma4382
      @jderoma4382 2 месяца назад +6

      Google challenged? Chase Oliver.

    • @ChiTownOriginator
      @ChiTownOriginator 2 месяца назад +6

      Yeah and he sucks figuratively and literally

    • @davidrawlings6116
      @davidrawlings6116 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes they do, I wonder if they'll get around to talking about him
      (To be fair, no one else is)

    • @payleryder45
      @payleryder45 2 месяца назад +2

      Chase Oliver! He will get 0.00% of the popular vote!