Budget Civic Rebuild PT2! Piston ring replacement!
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- Today I am pulling the pistons out of the budget civic build to replace the Piston rings. The old rings were worn and allowing the piston to move around in the cylinder. In order to make this a very safe and reliable build the piston rings needed to be replaced in order to make sure this motor will run for another 300k miles. Thanks for watching and see you in the next video!
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I like the way you didn't remove the engine, I did the same thing!
Nice! I try not to pull the engine unless I absolutely need to.
@@Fix_it_Garage you know what? I never ever even considered overhauling an engine without pulling it out, and I decided I could do it.
Layer I found out that it could be done and you really made it look fun!!
lol i immediately thought the same thing lol
My son bought a civic.
Overheated on the way home.
If he fried the piston rings im happy to see replacing them doesn't look too hard.
Thanks for the detailed information bro.
Your welcome! He most likely did not do any damage to the rings. This car was very high mileage and has had multiple headgaskets put on it. Usually you just resurface the head clean the block and put on a new headgasket and thermostat and your good to go
Only thing I'd add is before installing the rings, I'd clear and clean all the oil passages and ring grooves.
not the only thing...!!! you have to measure EVERY RING inside the piston and check the "gap clearance"!!!!! every ring!!!!
This video is incredible- thank you for taking the time to film. Really helped me understand what is going on with my vehicle.
Your welcome! I'm glad it helped you understand!
Thank you man this is the video I was looking for ❤😊
@@paulomachava1856 yout welcome! Im glad you enjoyed it!
recently bought an EK hatch D15z6
when i bought it the engine was fine. installed an aftermarket 4-2-1 exhaust mani (cat delete) and the car started to sound cooler, so i took it to a meet and decided to fuck around after by taking off the muffler and enjoying the harmony of 7000 farts per minute
ever since then the car gobbles up oil and ever so slightly eats coolant. safe to say i f*cked it, now i dont have money to take it to a shop, nor do i want to bc i like to work on my cars.. thank you for this vid, breaking down a complex repair
😂😂 Nice! Always nice to see people working on there own cars.
Do you remember the part# on those Hasting rings? Still running good?
Great video man. I’m doing the same to my civic just wondering if I have to hone the cylinder walls before I install my new rings?
I didnt on this car. I checked the cross hatching on the cylinder walls and it was good enough to not hone the cylinder. however that can vary by each car. its a safer bet to do a light hone on something like this usually.
@@Fix_it_Garage okay thank you so much bro, I will double check my walls and see how they look.
Awesome video super informative
Thank you!
Great video, thanks brother.!
Your welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much for the video! I think you have been a huge help to me! I have a four cyl. V465D Wisconsin engine that seized from sitting for 3 years (cancer, chemo, etc). Have been lubing the cylinders regularly for the big pull-out. My question is, since the engine is seized, do I need to lightly hone the cylinders when I pull the pistons? Lightly lube cylinders before insertion? Thank you very much!
Thank you! I'm glad the videos have been helpful. Usually I'll nake a determination on what needs to he done woth a sized motor after I tear off the cylinder head and pull the pistons. Then I can look at the cylinder walls and see there condition. I always use a little oil when I install pistons to lube both the tool and cylinder wall. You'll probably need to hone them but won't know until it's torn apart
@@Fix_it_Garage WOW! I got a response? OMG! Thank you very much!
A very good video sir thank you very much.🎉
Thank you!
Did you hone the cylinder and check ring gal before installing?
Checked the ring gap and get a very very very light hone. If I replaced the pistons I would have done a better hone job on it. But the cylinder walls had a good cross hatch on them
Do you use any break in oil or have a time frame to break on the new rings?
If it was an all new motor I'd use break in oil. Because all I did was rering the motor I used normal oil on the car. For breaking in the rings I tried to run the engine at more then just idle. I would Rev it up a bit and then go drive the car around to seat the rings. I find that helps them seal better on standard road cars
@@Fix_it_Garage Rev it up for how long, and drive it for how long to seat the rings? And how often should I change the oil after a ring change? About to do rings on mine and I just would like to be absolutely positive. I appreciate the informative video :)
@@redclassics5678hopefully @fix_it_garage is ok with me answering.. before going for the drive, you’ll want to start the car and allow it to get to operating temp while being aware of any oil or coolant leaks. This should be about 5 minutes or so. If issues arise shut down engine and fix leaks.
During this time you’ll want to keep your revs in the 1000-3000rpm range. This will help the ring sealing/seating process to the cylinder walls.
If all goes well go for a drive and focus on “engine braking.” Get vehicle up to speed let your revs build up and then release the throttle. Keep in gear and allow the car to slow down with engine braking. This creates high suction working the cylinders and further seals/seats the rings.
This doesn’t have to be a long process 5-10 minutes to get to operating temp and another 5-10 minutes driving. If it’s good and healthy in that time you’re gonna be good to go!
Can i do this without removing the timing covers and the whole timing stuff? Like my timing belt ect. Are pretty new cuz the previous owner did them and i want to change the rings but i dont want to take off the crank bolt. Any possible way?
Sort of. If your pulling the pistons then no you need to take it all apart. For just a headgasket you ca. Do that without removing the lower timing cover, but you will need to take tensioner off the tensioner with the timing cover on. It can be dine but if the spring in there falls off you gotta take it all apart anyway
Hey so far i took off the head my moms car has about 220k miles on it I was wondering if you think it's worth replacing the rings and cleaning everything. I'm a little scared cause i don't know what rings to buy they have standard and oversized and i don't know the difference
If you were not having some piston slap issues I wouldn't spend the time replacing the rings. Unless the engine has been bored out you'd use standard size rings.
Piston slap is not the only reason to replace piston rings. Excessive piston blow-by, excessive oil consumption and seized piston rings are a few other reasons. There are other symptoms that could be caused by worn rings, but these are just a few.
What size compression piston rings tool did you use?
I cant remember if Im being honest. My piston ring instaling set has multiple size ranges. I didnt check what sized I used. I just looked for the one that fit.
My Honda have a blown head gasket and I be rebuilt the motor
hi i have the same engine in my car and it has very bad knocking and blown head gas kit could you guide me on fixing it
Did you replaced conrod bearings too?
Nah I checked them and they were within spec and a long wait to get so I put it back together with the ones it had. They were totally fine and car runs perfect. Runs better then most the Hondas I see at the dealership everyday
i would hone the sleeves change pistons and rings and rod bearings this wouldn't cost anything
And I have be told and I have a bunch of people who tell me that my car was not running but I love what store wants to bet
Where should I get real good quality piston rings for a Honda Del Sol VTECH DOHC? ?? Thanks
Rings without honing are as good as old ones.
novice here....is it because without cross hatch surface it will basically leak by?
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Hallo from Greece. May i ask a question? Is it possible to remove the pistons without removing the cylinder head?
@@billmade8906 unfortunately no. In order to remove the pistons you have to remove the cylinder head. They won't come out the bottom
I expected to see you meadure the ring gaps....
@Anthony11qq yeahhh my bad. The camera battery died and because I was focused I didn't notice the camera shut off. I checked them. All the rings that came in the box were all within honda spec and needed no filing before installing though
Did you even gap the rings?
lol straight from the packaging
Yes I gapped them off camera because I used a less than approved method. Lol only one ring needed minor filing. The rest were in spec out of the packaging
Why would you not replace the bearings after having everything out, makes no sense😅
I mean your not wrong. Some of it was the timing of everything and when it needed to be done. And it was also me trying to stay under a strict budget that I was already getting close to hitting. If I was willing to go over budget I would have done a few things different including new bearings. However after I sold the car it's already done about 3k miles without issues!
new rings and not gapped??
I did gap them. Was very tired and thought I had the camera on and well it wasn't lol. But I did check the gaps before installing to verify they sent me good rings
Did you OS rings? Or used std
Standard size rings.
@@Fix_it_Garage got it, thanks!
What was the ring gap
I did this almost a year ago I honestly can't remember. I work for honda so I had quick access to the factory specs which is what I set them to. I checked all the rings off camera and only had to adjust one of them using a non approved method of filing the rings so I left it out of any videos lol
Aren't none of the ring gaps supposed to line up with the wrist pin?
Depends on the manufacturer. Honda service manuals show that the middle section of the oil control ring can. The 1st and 2nd I made sure were not lined up to the wrist pin also on the oil control rings the tiny top and bottom rings were also gapped to not line up with the wrist pin
I am rebuilding my civic all new piston rings and everything and it has 0 compression in 3 cylinders would you know why
There's multiple reasons for that. Usually if you have no compression there should be something more obvious like a really bad headgasket, bent valves, Cracked head, damaged piston or piston rings or damaged cylinder wall. If you take it apart you should find something. It's highly recommended that you have the cylinder head pressure tested and the block check as well if your machine shop will check it.
You don't have to be used all the new tools all you have to do is put some to stop the engine from moving and a 17mm and that is all
Because I have a 1999 Honda Civic and I don't use all the new tools I be working on cars for 30 years
I still use my old tools
I have oil consumption in my 1.8 so I suspect oil wiper ring clogging. Dreading this project.
Could be that or leaking valve stem seals.
@@Fix_it_Garage no blue smoke on start up
@@Watchman999does it smoke while flooring the gas pedal or only when you release the foot and rpms goes down? On the first case it’s probably rings, while in the second its probably exhaust valve guide stem seals
300k miles? Owner is tight.
1.6.L
Pretty good with details but talk a little too much when it comes to explaining certain things.