The Migration Period: How Europe was Born - History Mapped Out Reaction
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Just a quick comment to echo what some have pointed out: no European city reached a million between Rome's heyday and London in the 19th century. There are records that indicate a few Chinese cities, as well as Baghdad reached a million in that time frame.
what about constantinopole? I thought it reached 1 million way before London did.
@@umang3227 It may have had 1 million, but it more likely peaked at around 800.000 until about 1900.
Edo Japan was also the largest city in the world for a time with 1 million to 1.25 million people from the later 17th century to the 18th century. London surpasses them with the industrial revolution. That said the point about 1 million population being a huge milestone still stands.
It's possible Cordoba reached 1 million. Palermo also got to around 700.000. I don't know Istanbul. But anyway, we have to take into account the living conditions in Ancient Rome, there was a huge influx of people into the big Roman cities but the life was horrible. Life expectancy was under 30, it was that bad. So once inner migration stopped because of the migrating people the population of all big Roman cities declined steeply.
@@Bayard1503 Well child mortality skews the average. But there is evidence to suggest the average Roman in those cities would have had less nutrition than a medieval peasant on average so there is that. As long as I am not alive during the plague, I would much rather live in the medieval period for sure as even taking child mortality into account, the life expectancy was higher. The housing situation in Ancient Rome was also not great. While Rome is rightly known for its marvels of architecture and engineering, the average citizen or slave lived and worked in buildings that were prone to collapse. Not that different from many poor countries today.
Very good point about the migrations too. By the medieval period things are settled down on that front for the most part and cities are growing organically thanks to economic prosperity among other things so medieval cities likely would have been more livable. Not that living in the past is generally speaking a good time compared to now, but if I had to pick my poison that would be it if we are comparing Ancient and Medieval societies.
Huns are not Hungarians, Hungarians are a different wave of migration, they were called Magyars and they are the part of Ugro-Finish ethnicity. Basically Huns and Magyars are not the same, but the name of the country in English comes from the Huns, Hungary, but the Hungarian name is Magyarorszag, which means The country of Magyars.
The only remaining descendands of the Huns are the Chuvash people, that primarily live in the Chuvash Republic in Russia.
I feel like the Bungarians to sort of play claim to hunnic ancestry though, even if it isn’t accurate.
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367I would need to see some sources on that. The Wikipedia page makes no reference. They're Turkic whereas Hun DNA shows more of a Mongolian link.
@@ryankline1164 you do know wiki isn't a good source of information.
@@lifeofavet7057 Chris busts out the wiki all the time, and I think he'd agree with me saying that it is one of the best places to start research. That claim is something that should be on the wiki; it is not.
Minor correction. The Western Roman capital was Mediolanum (Milan) from 286 (with the elevation of Maximian as Augustus of the West) until 402. Rome lost it's political importance during the Crisis of the Third Century. Rome would not be the capital of the West again until 450AD when Emperor Valentinian III moved himself & his family to Rome in fear of a Hunnic invasion of Italy (which happened just 2 years later)
Also the Goths were not able to take Rome. The Romans didn't open the gates themselves to be spared. Supposedly it was either a disaffected solider or slave that opened the gates
Also I do understand that this guy is skimming through history. But I heard so many inaccuracies it kinda hurts lmao
The Romans DID defeat the Ostrogoths in 553/554 with the Lombards being a small contingent of the army. The Lombards invaded Italy because of 2 reasons. 1, they were being chased away from Pannonia by the Avar Khaganate & 2, because the Romans had been so exhausted by the Wars with the Goths, Italy was wide open for invasion. The Romans tried to push them out but by the 600's they gave up
Its revana actually ( I may have butchered the spelling)
@@skkhammuansangngaihte4989 Ravenna became the capital in 402 until 450. Then it became the capital again in 457 to 465. Rome became the capital again from 467-475. Ravenna for a final time from 475-540 (including the Ostrogothic Kingdom's rule)
Appreciate the history lesson.
@@jclcjonjonAlso I should add this. Rome was also the capital for Emperor Maxentius (306-312) where he was also one of the last Emperor's to permanently reside in the eternal city for his entire reign
The last ones after him were Avitus (455-456), Libius Severus (461-465) & Anthemius (467-472)
Rome was formally still the capital.
My last name Duchesne comes from the former Duchy of Normandy, where our family dates back to Gual in the 6th century
23:30 The Allemani are the tribe for which Germany is named in the French language
Spanish and Portuguese too
@@sefhammer6276 I was about to say the same thing.
I have recently started reading a book called Empires & Barbarians by Peter Heather and his thesis is that the migration period was not full of large migrations but rather a lot of smaller trickles over a period of time.
just FYI: Magyarország comes from the combination of two words: magyar (means: the people of Hungary, also means the hungarian language) and ország (means country).
I wouldn't say that the "Roman Empire" continued in name only in the East. It was pretty much still called and recognised by its own people and all others as the Roman Empire until Charlemagne, the Pope and the Venetians contested that for political and religious reasons.
The European part of the Ottoman Empire was called Rumelia... from Roman, so yeah, it continued for a long time.
To be precise, everyone to the East of it called it the Roman Empire. Latin Europe generally referred to it as the Greek Empire.
@@anderskorsback4104 what I said. Middle ages. Charlemagne, Pope, Venice. Until we'll into the Muslim conquest, there was only ever *the* empire.
I know Austria isn't your main focus or expertise, but I'd love to see you react to Old Britannia's Habsburg series.
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It is very hard to watch a history video that starts with a glaring mistake. The word "barbarian" isn't Roman but Greek and it didn't mean savage but someone that speaks an unintelligible language (or even Greek dialect). It's very common in modern times to attribute everything concerning european history to the Romans but how can someone persuade me that has something to teach me when he can't even google a word?
The comment isn't of course about your channel but the one you're reacting to...
It's almost like Consul Scipio Barbatus never existed.
Rome was modelled on Greece and spoke Greek ...so Barbarian was used by Romans as they saw themselves as Greek...
@@glastonbury4304 The elites of the Roman Republic did originally mostly speak Greek with one another but more as a prestige, status symbol thing than due to being ethnically Greek themselves (with the exception of Roman citizens who actually were ethnically Greek such as from Greece proper or even the Greek-dominated regions of Southern Italy/Sicily). By the time of the empire and especially its height at the Pax Romana, Latin had been formalized as the language of sophistication, law, and power. Even the Byzantine Empire - or the Greek-speaking Eastern Roman Empire - officially used Latin as the language of records and law until the reign of Emperor Heraclius in the 7th century AD.
@IowanMatthew683 ... thanks for that and taking the time to explain 👍
13:30 Although Rome was the first (and Alexandria 2nd), there has been many cities (many Chinese cities) reaching 1 million in population (Chang'an, Kaifeng, Hangzhou, Nenjing, Beijing, etc.). According to the census in 742 recorded in the Tang dynasty chronicles, the metropolitan area of Chang'an, present-day Xi’an, had a population of 362,921 families with 1,960,188 persons. It was the biggest in the world at this period.
Chinese records are always dubious, much like Ancient Greek ones. They make claims to ridiculously large armies, millions strong with hundreds of thousands of horses.
8:00 lol I was thinking earlier 'could have at least mentioned Gaius Marius' fair enough.
Vth, I have two recommendations for you (which I believe you have been meaning to get to) those being Joan of Arc by extra history, and something over the war of Austrian succession (I recommend Historia)
That was a poor video. The byzantines did defeat the ostrogoths and the lombards came after
I've gotta say, the video is immensely well scripted. The narrative flows so flawlessly.
the lombards didn't migrate to italia as servants of roma; they were forced out of their lands in pannonia by the migrating avar peoples
The city of Rome itself is not that pleasant to live in before the 20th century. It is surrounded by swamps which harbor mosquitos. Malaria spreads in the summer months as well as other tropical diseases.
Chris youre the goat! Im a big fan of your channel. You should come out to Okinawa the next time you travel. There’s some really cool history out here and you can fly to mainland Japan for very cheap.
This makes me want to go play Crusader Kings III or any of the Civilization games again.
Gladiator made up a bunch of stuff like Marcus Aurelius wanting to add abolish the Empire and turn Rome back into a Republic, and being murdered by Comodus.
Comodus was already Co-Emperor when his father died.
After a few ideas for your next reaction... There is a lot of Overly Sarcastic Productions vids you should see. Specifically, you should watch the four Pope Fights Videos that Blue has made. I even have a playlist in probably he best chronological order I can come up with. Starting with the first Pope Fights - ending with second video he did with the Protestant Reformation. But he also was very passionate in his History Summarized of Rome - which I will recommend with a passionate heart as well.
Even its decline, The Roman Empire acted as a stabilizing factor for ask these upheavals.
Interesting this our early history very good
13:44 I agree with you that the city of Rome's population fell, but no where near as dramatic as VTH stated. It's clearly shown that Rome went from 1 million around 1 AD to half that, 500k in 400 AD. A big drop, yes, but not to the under 100k as stated
Hey Vth you should really check out Chambrian Chronicals he does medieval welsh history.
13:30 tenochitlan had nearly a million people in the 1500s prior to the Spanish conquest
It definitely did not. The reliable high end estimates are 350,000 it was likely closer to 200,000.
I'd love to see a video about the ever-evolving borders in the Slovenian region. My paternal great-grandparents were officially born in Austria in 1888 in Trebnje and 1894 in Skofja Loka before moving to the US in 1914. When I was growing up, I was always told we were Yugoslavian. Now it's it's Slovenia.
Many of these early invasions are preceded by incredibly severe plagues that devastate urban life in the Roman empire. Not to mention that Justinian is close to rebuilding the Empire when the Justinian plague comes (most likely the first appearance in Europe of the bubonic plague), doubled by the Volcanic winter that starts in 536... The Empire could have survived.
Drachinifel is excellent history channel. His War of 1812 naval actions series is quite good
Why vth is successful is he fills in the gaps. Drach doesn’t leave many gaps, I don’t think it would work. I like both of them to be honest.
no my cup of tea, it reeks of British bias in many of his videos
I hope you review some Balkan war stuff
I like the overview this video provides, but at least when it comes to the origin of the Northern Germanic tribes (those are the ones I know about), like the Cimbri and Goths, the proposed origins of them is not certain at all and are mostly just based on the similarity of their Latin names (those are the ones we have) with the name of the area in their native language. The Cimbri supposedly came from modern-day Himmerland in Jutland, Denmark, but that isn't really certain, same goes for the Goths, who could have come from Gotland, but they might as well have come from Götaland (Geatland) in mainland Sweden. Also, the Magyars did not call their land Hungary, they probably called it an earlier variant of today's Magyarország (lit. "Magyarland"). Hungary is an exonym.
23:29 words similar to alemanni is the name for Germany in many Romance languages
It lists one of the first Germanic kingdoms was Oium. I see that they were Scythia. I liked the Netfix show "The Old Guard" which were a group of immortals lead by Charlize Theron's character "Andy the Scythian". The Scythians had female warriors of renown.
You are doing this now, in a heatwave in the northeast.....in a jacket?
I could barely stand my tank top today!
Why did the Romans stop at Scotland? I've noticed that the geographical and geological border between the two countries aligns nicely with a lot of different borders between peoples in the past. I've always wondered why.
I was kind of blown away when I learned more about the Viking invasion of England, only to find out...they weren't the first norsemen to invade England, so you watch a show like The Last Kingdom, and the Anglo Saxon treat the invading vikings like idiots, but they themselves where not far related from other norsemen who drove out the britons.
24:58 Even today, the German name for France is "Frankreich," which literally means the "Realm of the Franks."
Do we know when the gaming channel is going to start posting again?
I am always shocked how little and how inaccurate is the history about the Romanian territory. The tribes there not only fought the Romans but also won several times and made Rome pay tribute. Also, they had major implication in the wars fought at the borders.
Yeah, the Longboards (LongBeards) in Italy is a wild history bump that isn’t well discussed. For centuries there were Heathen peoples in the heart of Italy. The women were said to tie their hair around their face on holidays to emanate Odin’s beard. What an odd culture clash that must of been for a century or so. Must of been like the Celts who migrated into the heart of Turkey after Alexander’s death and kept their native culture for at least a few hundred years. In the Volsung Saga it is definitely depicted that a Burgundian woman married Atli (name in the story) murdered him and their two sons for revenge.
Given that the Olympics are close by now, you really should do a video on Blue Jays worst Olympic Marathon. :)
Glad to see you react to this fascinating video. However, I wished the guy covered some of the Arab and Seljuk Turk invasions which impacted Medieval Spain and Turkey.
Anatolia isnt part of europe.
@@karaltar7914no part of EURASİA.
@@user-lv3xr4wj3i the video is called history of EUROPE not EURASIA.
@@karaltar7914 ANATOLİA WEST ASİA AND THRACE EUROPE TURKEY WERE EURASİAN SHUT UP.
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It's interesting how certain tribes end up becoming namesake places of languages other than English. For example, in Spanish Alemania is the name for Germany
Are you familiar with a tiny channel called History in Taberna? It might interest you - food history, lovely sense of humor, and well made videos, despite the less than 2,000 subscribers.
I do like his simple style.
knowledgia has a real better video on the’invaison’ of britain it’s called why did the anglo saxons migrate to Britain it was more integration to Germanic culture than pure invasion
I always think it is funny that some people genuinely believe that the Celts in what is now England just decided to give up their entire culture and language without an invasion. Of course an invasion doesn’t exclude integration, but it was definitely both
Today moravia is a region of Czechia
I'd hoped it would cover more of Neolithic and Bronze age migrations.
Three of the most important maps in history are the Roman Empire at its maximum extent, the peak of early Christendom in 600 AD and the Arab Caliphate at its maximum extent. We don't see it this way but all of North Africa and the Middle East and Anatolia used to be "Europe", albeit with a far more sunny medditteranean flavor than the Anglo-Saxon complextion we think of.
Ironically most of these tribes originally came from the same area around the Black Sea. They were distantly related.
The Bosporus Strait was breached in ancient times causing the Black Sea to expand rapidly - these tribes ancestors fled in different directions.
I get that the video focuses primarily on Europe, but the exact same was happening in the southern Mediterranean. After centuries of plague and war between the Romans and Sassanid Persians, the Middle East was similarly weakened and depopulated to some extent. This led both sides to increasingly rely on Arab tribes that centralised into their own respective kingdoms (The Ghassanids around Petra on the Roman side, and Lakhmids on the Persian side). A lot of modern historical and archaeological evidence suggests that the later emergence of Islam and the swift conquest of the Middle East by the Arabs was likely similar to how the Goths eventually took over the Western empire; more forceful migration and settlement than simple conquest. This is further reinforced by Syria becoming the important centre of power to the ethnocentric Arab Umayyads more so than Arabia itself, suggesting that a lot of Arabs have already moved in to settle the Levante as early as the initial conquest.
Hungary isn't naked after the Huns. It is named after a 10 Tribe Confederation (On Ugri) made up of seven seven tribes of Magyars and 3 tribes of Khabar Oghur Turks. The Kavars were Khazars And thus were in fact descended from one of the tribes that allied with the Huns, the Akatzroi
Descendents I agree, but named after the Huns...
Technically, migration never stopped.
BULGARIA MENTIONED 🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬 WHAT THE HELL ARE TAXES🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬
Hey Chris I wanted to know if you could do a reaction to "How imbred is King Charles" from The Shy Historian. It's mostly for fun, but there's some historical information.
The lesson is: even if you are desperate for help, dont invite ambitious foreigners to work for you
Napoleon’s generals series
Speed up that video to five times its speed and you'll get whiplash trying to follow all the invasion and migration routes......
And people say that Europeans aren't diverse.
The Goths are Swedish and the one Constinople are The Vangarin Army which are Swedish Viking s
West Brom fan?????? My goat
You should react to Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast ft. Louis CK on The Presidents
A whole lotta "Whats yours is mine"
Just like they are trying to do in America today
@@Dylan-so8ng
Please expand on this. What do you mean by this?
@GlidusFlowers The US with illegal immigration refered to as the 'migrant crisis' with non citizens taking advantage of the asylum system and states via tax payer money for benefits like housing and economic aid while many Americans struggle with an increasing homeless and mental health population.
@@Dylan-so8ng Imagine comparing the Bronze Age with the modern world 🤣
@spookyboi8446 Times change situations don't. That's like saying you can't compare past deaths from war to the World Wars because it's not modern. You realize what the Mongols did or the Taiping rebellion, Ming to Qing? 🤡
There are records of what is now Baghdad and Constantinople were also over a million people.
I was just going to comment this because I know in the 800s Baghdad got to at least one million
I think in the reign of Basil II, Constantinople was close to a million, or possibly just 600,000. Which is still very impressive
@@derekmiles2543it absolutely did notn
@@LouisKing995 yes it did look it up
What is also mistaken with the term barbarians is their religions. Most think of them did not follow the pagan religions at the time that they attacked Rome. The Goths, Visigoths and Vandals for the most part were Christians with parts of the population still adhering to pagan practices but following a creed thought heretical by the Catholic Church, namely Arianism (followers of Arias), as almost all writing from and directly about Arianism was destroyed subsequently by the Catholics we have little knowledge of their practices. One is that they did see Jesus as the son of God, but not his equal. For that the Catholic thought of the Holy Trinity couldn’t stand. Arians were also very welcoming of other religions and accepting them as neighbors following the Golden Rule.
The Huns followed their traditional beliefs.
Switzerland’s official name is Helvetia, which was the name of a Gallic tribe that settled there after conflict with Julius Caesar.
Love ya man
If any Hungary/Magyar experts out there. Curious if the Magyars really named their nation Hungary. I feel like he simplified that. Since the nation is called Magyarország in Hungarian. All that being said, it seem the word is Hun is deeply involved here. Haydu warriors. The famous family and general Hunyadi.
Hungary is just what everyone else calls us (I am no way an expert in that period, but I am a hungarian). we hungarians call our country Magyarország, which comes from the combination magyar (meaning the people of Hungary, also means the hungarian language, and ország, means country. this applies to many countries in Europe(like for Spain we say Spanyolország, Lengyelország for Poland, Oroszország for Russia and so on)). The finns also calls their country differently then foreigners.
"Hun" in the name of Hungary is not referring to the Huns. It's a medieval Latin alteration of the Greek "Ungri" or "Ungroi", which itself is derived from Turkic "on ogur" meaning "Ten ogur (tribes)", which was a Turkic tribal confederacy which the early Hungarians were associated with by European writers.
When doing genealogical research a lot of questions arise concerning German ancestors with names like Canii or Savage. Maybe Germans would better know the origins of un-Germanic looking names. Also my mother's French maiden name was changed to the "dit name" Barry, from Baril which is of Gaul or Gallo-Roman origin. The root word for barrier the same as found in Italy.
4:16 and were is Greece?🤔
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Day 10 of asking you to re-act to battle of Vítkov hill by history marche
9:41
United States moment
Looking at comments from the original video, there's a lot of mistakes.
On your comment about no city reaching one million I think it would have been better if your said no European city.
That's fair, though I've read some sources who challenge the idea that Chinese cities were over a million in the interim.
The numbers from the Middle Ages should be considered with caution.
Until recently, it was believed that the city of Córdoba (Spain) in the 10th century was home to 1 million inhabitants, but recent studies have lowered that figure to about 300,000, still the second in Europe after Constantinople.
@@angelcamachodelsolar that’s true but that can be the case for all of history by that logic. I’m just going off what we know for now.
Did you know that the word "barbarian" was coined by the Ancient Greeks because they thought that their non Greek speaking enemies sounded like bleating sheep. Baa-barians.
9:37 😂 You think that is bad. Imagine 3 million plus
I would like you to react to Suez crises by Epic History Tv in future
Slight error is the Anglo-Saxons likely didn't conquer or move the brythonic people's. DNA has shown that the Anglo Saxon intermarried more often than they would have conquered. Which goes against historical thinking on the Anglo-Saxon migrations. (Source is an article from Oxford university)
That is not an error. The Anglo-Saxons almost certainly conquered and invaded. That doesn’t mean they didn’t also intermarry, but the Celts didn’t give up their entire language and culture to a few people who just asked nicely
At best it is a debated topic, but imo it is a little silly to imagine there was no conquest and invasion in this chaotic time full of small scale conflicts and large population and cultural shifts. However saying it was an invasion is certainly not wrong. If anything genetic evidence which estimates that the average English person has 30% anglo-saxon dna, proves that there was a significant influx of settlers from the continent. This data doesn’t prove or disprove an invasion on its own though
@@sebe2255 I never said it wasn't an invasion. I'm just saying it wasn't an outright conquest of the people that pushed them further west like the video implies.
I am well aware that the Anglo-Saxons did have wars against the Celtic people's. I am just saying it wasn't an outright conquest against them. There are numerous records and accounts from reliable sources such as clergy who described people similar to Celts in England all the way into the 11th century.
All I was saying is based on DNA it shows that a large percentage of the Anglo-Saxon migrations were more of a mixed society but the Anglo-Saxons became more dominant and created their own kingdoms. Where a total conquests as implied in the video would indicate they pushed and kicked the Celts out of England entirely which wasn't the case, there of course were conflicts but not in the manner of which this video is implying. Where the Anglo-Saxons did conquer were the nations and tribal states of post-romand Britain, but it wasn't a total conquest of the Celts, just their nation states. The video implies it was a total expulsion of Celts out of England.
checkmate linolnites pls
He's not going to do it.
I feel like we’ve had a lot of European history videos recently since the Vietnam war upload. I feel diving in China, India, or even South America or African history could be a fresh change of pace
I try to do that stuff every so often, and it always performs really poorly. The reality is that the audience for this channel is 96% US and Europe, so that tends to be what they watch. In the end, while all history is interesting and worth talking about, youtube's algorithm punishes the entire channel when a video does badly.
@@VloggingThroughHistoryperfect response, love your videos, you’re the only reaction channel that I watch because you always add something.
Isn't it kind of fascinating how in these "How Europe was formed" type videos there is barely any mention of The Netherlands? We've just always kind of been here, minding our own business. Specifically the part of the country north of the Rhine river, where Frisian and Saxon tribes lived was left alone by many invaders. After Charlemagne converted (most of) Europe to Christianity we were divided in seven regions, some ruled by bishops and others by dukes or counts.
To foil Phillip II of Spain these different parts of the Netherlands started working together as a republic in 1588. This coalition went on (for better or worse) until the French invasion under Napoleon in 1795, who made his brother king of Holland in 1806. And in 1833, after Belgium declared, and fought for, their independence, we became The Kingdom of The Netherlands, which we still are today.
The Netherland were mentioned, it is the Franks. Of course Franks had already settled in what is now parts of the Netherlands Belgium before the fall of Rome, but they expand their influence and Empire from there.
Frisians and Saxons also moved into the region before the fall of Rome, but they too hadn’t always been there. The ancestors of the Frisians of today (not the Frisii of old) move in somewhere in the 4th and 5th centuries when the North Sea coast becomes livable again. Around this same period Saxons settle in what used to be Frankish territory in the modern day eastern Netherlands.
So yeah all the native groups of the Netherlands, both the majority (Franks) and minority (Frisians/Saxons) groups, settled there in the migration period.
@@sebe2255 I am Dutch, born about as far north as you can be on the mainland, and very familiar with the history of that region. The Frisians, coming from (current day) Denmark by boat, and Germanic (mostly Saxons) tribes have been living in the northern half of the country since the end of the Iron Age (ca. 550BC), centuries before the Romans took over the south. Franks don't really count, because, as you said, they lived mostly in modern day Belgium. Most of the people who migrated to The Netherlands integrated with the people already living there instead of taking over everything and replacing the existing culture with theirs as happened in other parts of Europe. Frankish kings from Clovis until Charlemagne changed our religion, but not our way of life.
@@Panthror Except none of that is true. Frisia was depopulated between 200-400 A.D. after which the new Frisians moved in. There may have been some old Frisii remnants in what is today Groningen, but they were absorbed into the new Frisian population. The Franks initially moved into the Low Countries in what is now the Eastern “Saxon” Netherlands. But they were most likely pushed further south by Saxons somewhere in the 3rd-4th century, the saxons subsequently moved into the Low Countries
And the Franks absolutely do count. Early and high medieval Dutch culture didn’t originate from the area above the Rhine, but the area below it. Cities like Maastricht, Mechelen, Brussels, Antwerp and Brugge, all firmly Frankish, were the heart of Dutch culture before the rise of the Dutch Republic. The distinction between Dutch Dutch and Belgian Dutch didn’t exist yet. And it was from the south that the Dutch culture drove out and assimilated the Frisian culture in Holland.
Holland itself was initially (new) Frisian, but the Frisians were either driven out or assimilated into the Frankish population. Holland doesn’t speak Frisian but Dutch (low Franconian/Frankish) for a reason. They didn’t integrate into the Frisian population, it was absolutely the other way around. Of course this is never a one way street, and there is more Frisian influence in Holland, but ultimately the Frisian lost the region due to various wars between them and the Franks or the Hollandic counts.
So idk what history you have read, but all of the Germanic tribes that make up the Modern population of the Netherlands came to the region during the migration period. And on top of that it is Frankish culture that was dominant in the Netherlands, not Frisian. Otherwise Frisians and their language would not be a minority group withon the Netherlands with their own North Sea Germanic language that is different from the Frankish of the “Dutch.” We’d all be speaking Frisian if they had been the dominant group ;)
Want ja ik ben ook Nederlands
@@sebe2255 Depopulated? Funny how I can't find anything on the internet confirming that statement, but page after page confirming what I said.
@@Panthror You didn’t look very hard then. I can’t link in youtube but go to the wikipedia page of the Frisii and read the section about their demise. There are plenty of references on the page to further sources. Alternatively a good book series about the history of the Low Countries are de Franken and de Friezen bij Luit van der Tuuk.
So yeah the very North of the Modern day Netherlands (Friesland en Groningen) suffered from bad weather events, climate change and rising sea levels which led to them being mostly abandoned and depopulated. And what is absolutely clear is that the modern Frisians and Saxons didn’t live in the Netherlands at the start of the Iron Age in Northern Europe (and neither did the Franks). Though some tribes that were absorbed into these larger groups might have lived there.
However both in the case of the Batavii (who may have been absorbed into the Franks) and the remnants of the Old Frisii (who may have been absorbed into the new Frisians) they definitely lost their distinct identity. And again the character of every region in the Netherlands today is made up by migration area peoples, be that Franks below the Rhine and around Utrecht and Holland, Frisians in the North or Saxons in the North East
The music in this video annoys me to loud
It’s terrible. Makes it unwatchable.
course in the late 7th, early 8th centuries, u got Arabs encroaching Southern Spain, giving the modern country a lot of its language, architecture, and culture
Haha, and suddenly a lot of "byzantines" appear. p.s. Nice video.
Oh boy im sure the comments wont be racist and xenophobic at all.
I assume a few people will point out, and idk if you would wanna cover it... but a new map men video is out. 👉👈
Sooo everyone’s German? 😅
The Suevian Kingdom is historicalmy fragile and very poor heritage the Suevian Kingdom in Spain is a 200.000 people included Portugal zone front 5 million people in rest of actual Spain and duration is a century and half ; inclusively there is named "a dark age " for very unkown dates in this time in almost a century .
Chang'an (modern Xi'an), in China had a population close to one million by the 7th century.
Migration was always a thing for eeuropeans
The video was good but it really fell through when it comes to the slavs. He spends 15 describing the history of the western european groups but spends less than a minute on the history of slavic migration. Him mentioning the kingdom of croatia but not the way earlier kingdoms of carantania and samos kingdom is pretty lazy
The history of how modern slavic cultures formed is so interesting too.
I think you made a mistake and confused me also, when you said that the Huns gave the name to Hungary, maybe the lands but I don't think those are the real ancestors, more likely the Magyars since they came much later on, when Romanian "states" started to already form. Tho the name Attila is very common in Hungary I think, it's weird I never made the connection with huns since I always knew they were like some mongolian tribe that came over in the 900s and settled in the pannonia, not Huns that conquered the entire region lol.
I'm the 200s AD China had 3 cities of over 1 million people during the Han Empire. Chang An (modern day Xian), LuoYang, and Xiang Yang. And many that had over 500k.