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  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv 5 месяцев назад +354

    Oooooh! Loved that movie! It set the standard for what a movie about Napoleon SHOULD be, not the trash that Ridley Scott dreamed up while tripping on LSD.

    • @RickBrode
      @RickBrode 5 месяцев назад +17

      Belisarius, the best Roman general

    • @Subutai_Khan
      @Subutai_Khan 5 месяцев назад +22

      100% agree. And I understand some of us get too pedantic sometimes but like Chris I fine so often real history is more interesting than fictional nonsense people come up with in a relatively short period of time.

    • @celston51
      @celston51 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@RickBrode I would love to see a movie about Belisarius but the pacing would be difficult. Many of his campaigns took years. Theodora hated him, Procopius hated him (if you believe the "Secret History" that is), and many of his gains were reversed by incompetent subordinates. I'm not sure I'd trust many directors to pull off a compelling movie about him especially since this period of history has so little media attention.

    • @RickBrode
      @RickBrode 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@celston51 I couldn’t agree more, but sadly as you say this area has little media attention, hardly anyone I speak to knows of Belisarius anyway, so it wouldn’t seem profitable to investors to make a film or series about it. Although if it was done correctly it could be an astounding piece of media

    • @commandershephard5139
      @commandershephard5139 5 месяцев назад

      @@celston51In case you didn’t know, Epic History made a great documentary series about Belisarius. Would recommend if you haven’t seen it.

  • @Awells89
    @Awells89 5 месяцев назад +43

    10:15 “and that’s when it happened. It got cold. STUPID cold”

  • @ravenguard0098
    @ravenguard0098 5 месяцев назад +172

    Ah yes the movie Waterloo(1970) the wonders one can do in battle scenes when you have entire soviet army divisions worth of soldiers, their support elements and a soviet cavalry brigade at your beck and call as extras and trained for late 18th century warfare at that.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 5 месяцев назад +16

      And they still panic and rout from a scripted cavalry charge that was only a tenth the scale of the actual Waterloo cavalry charge.

    • @ВашместныйагентКГБ
      @ВашместныйагентКГБ 5 месяцев назад +3

      I'm pretty sure they also had the Scots Greys in the movie as well.

    • @blacbraun
      @blacbraun 3 месяца назад

      Early 19th Century to be exact but it's splitting hairs.

  • @kathyastrom1315
    @kathyastrom1315 5 месяцев назад +51

    Ever since I watched the series of Sharpe tv movies back in the 1990s, I have been fascinated by the Napoleonic era. Finding out I have a 5th great-granduncle who very likely fought at Waterloo in the 23rd Light Dragoons just drove that fascination into the stratosphere!

  • @historyrepeat402
    @historyrepeat402 5 месяцев назад +24

    18:25 one of the coolest part of napoleon, is even in the later battles he helps the men sight the cannons

    • @Plymouth888
      @Plymouth888 5 месяцев назад

      Sign of panic. Revert to basic skills.

    • @LeeRenthlei
      @LeeRenthlei 4 месяца назад +2

      He was one of the boys.

  • @Tyraeleon
    @Tyraeleon 5 месяцев назад +3

    Would highly recommend History Buff's video about HBO's Rome. It's good at filling in the missing holes from the show

  • @glory2christcmj702
    @glory2christcmj702 5 месяцев назад +8

    I can't help but feel that not enough attention is given to General Blücher and his army for the role they played in the Battle of Waterloo. Maybe I'm wrong. The Duke of Wellington and his army, rightly so I might add, get a lot of credit, but I feel as though Blücher unfairly falls by the wayside when his involvement was absolutely essential.

    • @undertakernumberone1
      @undertakernumberone1 5 месяцев назад +4

      No, you are right. Downplaying Blücher is something Wellington a few years after hte battle started to do. And for a production in the soviet union, downplaying (and even drawing certain parallels by putting the Prussians in Black Uniforms with Skulls, when the Leibhusaren who actually wore that weren't at the battle and Blücher telling his troops "No mercy!" blabla... When, irl, he told his troops to chase the french until they couldn'T draw breath anymore, i. E. were too tired to move on) the german participation at the Battle of Belle-Alliance suits the political climate.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 4 месяца назад

      @@undertakernumberone1
      The Greeks who fought alongside the Spartans at Thermopylae: “First time?”

    • @jimb9063
      @jimb9063 2 месяца назад

      Yes agreed, but not necessarily specifically on the day of this battle. Unfortunately the way it's often presented you'd be forgiven for not knowing about Ligny and Quatre Bras.
      Act one was the Allied army trying to reach Blucher in time, but being held up by Ney at Quatre Bras. Act two was Blucher reaching the Allied army in time, after giving Grouchy the slip.
      Could have gone either way in that regard. I'm sure if things were different, then more emphasis would have been put on the importance of the arriving troops than has been common for years.
      It's been said that science progresses one funeral at a time. More so with generals and history probably.

  • @patrickkanas3874
    @patrickkanas3874 2 месяца назад +2

    Napoleon once said, "God favors the side with the best artillery." It's so ironic that issues involving artillery may have been what cost him the battle

  •  5 месяцев назад +1

    I saw the film on it’s release (almost empty cinema) and at the Waterloo celebration in 1975.Despite the narrative,there is a lot more footage that has been ‘lost’ and Mosfilm deny it ever existed.

  • @davidhanson8728
    @davidhanson8728 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great movie. One that has a special place for me. I lived in Waterloo as a kid in the 70's and used to regularly go to the battlefield. Have a great time at in Waterloo.

  • @dyutimandas9772
    @dyutimandas9772 5 месяцев назад +1

    4:23 just one side note: not everyone is real, in the full army scenes specially, there were about 5,000 dummies used in total for the back lines
    And often soldiers in the back would wear just red and blue over their Soviet uniforms cause there was a shortage of proper napoleonic uniforms
    Still mind boggling that it was all real and no generated graphics and the shortcomings can't even be identified on screen, thats how well its made

  • @MrQuinn-tc3uo
    @MrQuinn-tc3uo 5 месяцев назад +1

    His review of "The death of Stalin." is also fantastic.

  • @clinging54321
    @clinging54321 5 месяцев назад

    Horse artillery was established to keep pace with Calvary in order to counter infantry squares.

  • @RedcoatT
    @RedcoatT 3 месяца назад +1

    The worst inaccuracy for me is how the British line fires at the Old Guard. They fired on mass, they didn’t fire in single ranks bobbing up and down. I think someone saw the film Zulu and the final attack and thought that it looked cool.

    • @ryanb8020
      @ryanb8020 Месяц назад

      How do you know where you there ?

    • @RedcoatT
      @RedcoatT Месяц назад +1

      @@ryanb8020 I know the tactics the British army used in this period. They were trained to fire all at once.

    • @ryanb8020
      @ryanb8020 Месяц назад

      @@RedcoatT they used volley fire which is what you see in the film

    • @coltonbarnes7861
      @coltonbarnes7861 Месяц назад

      I looked into it and most scholars agree that's what happened, but the fact that's one of the biggest complaints shows how much research and care was put into the movie

    • @coltonbarnes7861
      @coltonbarnes7861 Месяц назад

      ​@@ryanb8020I believe he just meant when the old guard surrendered

  • @kubwell3856
    @kubwell3856 5 месяцев назад

    That rock paper scissors breakdown was amazingly simple yet somehow thorough!! Great video

  • @steflimited7943
    @steflimited7943 5 месяцев назад

    Would love some coverage of the Southern Battles of the Revolution. Cowpen, Kings Mountain and others. I feel like it is never talked about

  • @jerrynobbe2705
    @jerrynobbe2705 3 месяца назад

    The muddy battlefield is reminiscent of Agincourt

  • @brandonclark435
    @brandonclark435 5 месяцев назад

    Somehow the Emperor came back vs Napoleon's return.

  • @tremendousbaguette9680
    @tremendousbaguette9680 5 месяцев назад

    "Merde" is forever know since as "Cambronne's word" when someone wants to refer to it in a polite way.

  • @xenamorphwinner7931
    @xenamorphwinner7931 5 месяцев назад +9

    I am now just dreaming your reaction on the "Death of Stalin". You are in for a ride. Plus the film, despite being a comedy, is a good introduction on why Poland, Baltics (myself included), Ukraine, Belarusians that are not with Lukashenko have some unsettled dues with Putin.

    • @shawnmiller4781
      @shawnmiller4781 5 месяцев назад +1

      If look forward to that.
      Of course Death of Stalin always has advertised itself as a parody not a historically accurate film
      But they got a lot right

    • @docketchup
      @docketchup 5 месяцев назад

      He's seen "Death of Stalin" he talks about enjoying it in a past video.

  • @jordinagel1184
    @jordinagel1184 4 месяца назад

    “It’s not like in LotR where the horses just run right into the pikes and overrun them”
    Let’s just ignore that the Rohirrim were charging across flat terrain rather than over a ridge and built up much more momentum as a result, that the “pikes” of the orc were pretty short and definitely of worse quality than British bayonets, and that the orcs were much less disciplined than any of the armies fighting at Waterloo and already started to waver, even back away from the Rohirrim (the sturdiest pike wall is useless if the infantry can’t stand its ground in the face of a charge) 🙄

  • @josephbischoff8917
    @josephbischoff8917 5 месяцев назад +3

    I believe you mentioned you loved Tora tora tora and he reviewed that as well so could be another reaction too

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane5110 5 месяцев назад

    When I was a kid this was said to be a, if no THE, benchmark for historical war movies. Amazing that all these decades later it still is. That's both high praise for these filmmakers and quite the opposite for "modern" ones.

  • @charliereader3462
    @charliereader3462 5 месяцев назад +2

    Famous battles in British history
    🤝
    Torrential downpour the day before

  • @chris93703
    @chris93703 5 месяцев назад

    The phrase "The Guard dies, and does not surrender" may have been uttered by General Claude-Étienne Michel who died leading the final assault.

  • @FinbarGallagher
    @FinbarGallagher 5 месяцев назад

    The one problem I have with History Buffs is when he makes it seem like inaccuracies or creative licence is a genuine issue that would make an otherwise good film/TV show awful and unwatchable.
    That said, he's also just got an interesting charm to his presentation style that I can't help but really like.

  • @semmaricau480
    @semmaricau480 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Chris, how can I be part in July at wateloo? Thank you for all the informative video's, greetings from Belgium

  • @redhen2123
    @redhen2123 5 месяцев назад

    "The Western, Yugoslavian and Russian stunt men could make their horses fall on command, but the cavalry mounts had no special training. Trip wires were used instead with fatal results. Watching one charge Plummer and the rest of the cast were horrified to see a horse rise from the ground with its neck bent at a ghastly angle. It pleading pitifully for help. Its rider heard the plaintive cries of distress, and unable to be restrained he sprinted to its side, ignoring all calls to get out of the shot. The animal was in dire pain, and whinnied piteously to its owner, who in no less internal anguish cast around desperately for a gun to end its ordeal. With none to hand, he took out a knife and with shockingly accurate precision cut the animal’s throat. When the cameras stopped rolling an eerie silence fell over the scene, penetrated only by the cries of the heartbroken soldier weeping over the body his dead friend."
    "Horses were to drop like flies during the 48 days of battle shooting, to the degree that when the prop department began to run out of fake carcasses and began to use the real thing. "
    making of Waterloo 1970, Adventures in Historyland

  • @samspooner2246
    @samspooner2246 5 месяцев назад

    First saw this as a trailer on a vhs tape before the film I was gonna watch, The I WILL NOT scene will always give me goosebumps. 😁

  • @adihshhdhdhdjd9615
    @adihshhdhdhdjd9615 5 месяцев назад +21

    U react to everythin about napolean except for his marshal series still waiting for that my g....
    Guys pls like this so he sees I want Chris to see that we haven't given up on the marshal series

  • @thepenguinmafia
    @thepenguinmafia 5 месяцев назад

    "I do not say, my Lords, that the French will not come. I say only they will not come by sea."

  • @lavabeard5939
    @lavabeard5939 3 месяца назад

    I wonder how polish hussars would have fared against infantry square formations. weren't they known to charge straight into halberds? infantry square seems much less threatening to horses than a formation of halberds

  • @Awells89
    @Awells89 5 месяцев назад

    I’m a huge sucker for cavalry charges in movies and this one has one of the best. For the record my all time favorite cavalry charge in a movie was Return of the King.

  • @Equilibrium21
    @Equilibrium21 5 месяцев назад +1

    You should react to their video about Master & Commander. Great film

  • @Panda-gs5lt
    @Panda-gs5lt 5 месяцев назад

    Best movie EVER, which can never be recreated as CGI can’t duplicate it.

  • @connorw1864
    @connorw1864 5 месяцев назад

    I'm not the biggest fan of Napoleonic history in general, but this movie is definitely going straight up my must watch list.

  • @spyswatter
    @spyswatter Месяц назад

    Would love to see your reaction to Tora! Tora! Tora!
    Or review History Buffs reaction to it.

  • @andrewadams20
    @andrewadams20 5 месяцев назад

    Great reaction as always! If you haven’t already, check out his take on Apollo 13, another great one

  • @soundwavegamer2321
    @soundwavegamer2321 5 месяцев назад +1

    What’s funny about you comparing how France treated the British blockade to what the Germans did was that Christopher Plummer would later play an exiled Kaiser Wilhelm II. I mean how many other actors can you say played not only the best U-Boat captain and the greatest British general, but later got to play the Last German Kaiser?

    • @graysonleal3636
      @graysonleal3636 5 месяцев назад

      You're forgetting the Austrian naval captain who had a side hustle as a singer

    • @soundwavegamer2321
      @soundwavegamer2321 5 месяцев назад

      @@graysonleal3636 ya the Best U-boat captain was Capt. Baron von Trap. He was asked by Hitler to come out of retirement due to his exceptional career.

    • @graysonleal3636
      @graysonleal3636 5 месяцев назад

      @@soundwavegamer2321 my mistake, thought you meant another movie I hadn't seen lol

  • @RileySkye100
    @RileySkye100 4 месяца назад

    You should definitely checkbout his review of A Bridge Too Far.

  • @budder_bro
    @budder_bro 5 месяцев назад

    Its been a year since you promised us Napoleon's Marshalls

  • @chefstevekirsch
    @chefstevekirsch 5 месяцев назад

    The issue with the Ridley Scott film is that he didn't want to tell history, or even tell history with some modifications.
    He wanted to tell his own story.
    Here's the issue with this:
    It's like making a movie about a band, but instead of using their music, the creator makes up a bunch of songs that they never did.
    Why? If you don't like their music, either pick a different band or make one up.

  • @jsranada8737
    @jsranada8737 4 месяца назад

    You should do the one where he did "Thirteen Days"

  • @kenw.1520
    @kenw.1520 5 месяцев назад

    Casualty =/= Fatality (Dead).
    I learned that, due to Mortal Kombat. Lol. But I'm glad that you continue to correct people on it.

  • @benjaminmatheny6683
    @benjaminmatheny6683 5 месяцев назад

    A major part of why people don't internalize casualties very well is because of how much warfare has changed over time. Most people see WW2 as what "war" is. That's their benchmark. But that's a very recent war in the grand scheme of things. That's after the natural of war has changed with the mechanization of war, were the majority are killed in battle rather than by disease. The lethality of the WW2 battlefield is far higher than earlier wars.

  • @ernestchoi4464
    @ernestchoi4464 5 месяцев назад

    Ridley Scott "OUCH!"

  • @atompunk5575
    @atompunk5575 5 месяцев назад

    I've seen Waterloo at least 3 times because how beautiful it is. Second only to Tora, tora, tora

  • @3ftsteamrwy12
    @3ftsteamrwy12 5 месяцев назад

    Yes, truly an epic in all forms of the word...The only film I can think of that comes close...and it has issues...is Ted Turner's "Gettysaburg" (my own opinion...they should have had a 2+ hour movie on each day...but thats me...)

  • @pop5678eye
    @pop5678eye 5 месяцев назад

    As prolific and talented general as Napoleon has been I am glad the experts point out that Waterloo may have been the final battle for Napoleon but his defeat was long time in the making. Even if he had won Waterloo it would have been weeks, months, at most one year before the Allies obliterated him. His tyranny had to end. Him twisting the arms of every nation while pretending 'they forced his hand' had to end.
    Napoleon was a genius tactician for the time and exploited that his enemies had short-sighted view of war as well. They all saw war as a series of battles and winning scores.
    Eventually the Allies learned to outwit Napoleon on strategic grounds which is the basis of war today: it's not about making your enemy run away at the battlefield but destroying their ability to make war in the first place.
    Wellington watched and learned Napoleon's tactics on the battlefield and understood the grander picture. Napoleon became stale and just assumed all enemy generals would fall for his feigns all over again and that winning a few battles would win the war.

  • @Bigrago1
    @Bigrago1 5 месяцев назад

    There is a well resolution video on RUclips of the movie, and whoever put it on edited in deleted scenes, though the deleted scenes are just images with script texts

  • @RockandRollneverdies
    @RockandRollneverdies 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hope you react to lots more of History Buffs, e.g Zulu and We were soldiers

  • @rubric-eo5yj
    @rubric-eo5yj 5 месяцев назад +1

    can somebody help me with this one.Did the old guard actually take part in the final assault or was it the middle guard?🤔

  • @anathardayaldar
    @anathardayaldar 5 месяцев назад

    Maybe Ridley Scott realized he could never make anything as great as this movie so he knew not to try. Instead he did what he does best, pander to the masses.

  • @r.g.o3879
    @r.g.o3879 5 месяцев назад +1

    I hate that we here in the US or even those sad Brits simply cannot ever produce something about the life and times of Napoleon without basing it all upon British written books or other forms of British produced media. At the barest minimum there is an occasional bit of German made media that simply reinforces their own point of view. The point of what I'm getting at is that the French, poles, central and eastern Europeans all have a very different view of both the French revolutionary and the life and motivations of Bonaparte. The French and many others see Napoleon and the revolution as very positive things. The Code Napoleon, the elimination of slavery in Europe, the freeing of the serfs, elimination of the kings and queens and other upper classes along with the powers and privileges of the large churches. In fact it was the threat to the power of the British upper classes and crown that convinced them to do everything that they could including lying, cheating and bribing both their own and other people in order to keep them fighting and refusing to join in to the peaceful economic unions that were designed to break down the power of the Prussian, Russian and British crowns. The traitor Bernadotte who turned on his mother country and the Spanish clergy and nobility that would rather destroy their own country lied and helped convince their own people keeping the French at war for a decade longer blaming it all on Bonaparte and labeled him a warmonger. It was decades later before the British lower classes were finally exposed to the ideas of the revolution. Even today virtually all Brits still believe Bonaparte and the French were to blame for the entire period of the Napoleonic wars and take no responsibility for extending the turmoil.

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 5 месяцев назад

    i belive i read that the reason waterloo was that muddy was a volcano eruption

  • @markgrehan3726
    @markgrehan3726 5 месяцев назад

    The other Monarchies surrounding Revolutionary France would have attacked them sooner or later but the French were a little like every other revolutionary and wanted to spread their new ideas After all the French were the ones to declare war first, but again it was a close run thing.

  • @muadibadder3345
    @muadibadder3345 5 месяцев назад

    Nice, Waterloo 😁 dat effin movie 💯🤌 da amount of extras on dat film alone, real people, no cgs, jesus 😶

  • @ArchCraftGaming
    @ArchCraftGaming 5 месяцев назад

    How in the world do people like Napoleon and Caesar exist. When I think of leaders like Tokugawa or Hannibal I think ok maybe that tenacity mixed with luck. But Cesar literally perfected tactics we still use today. The man was always caught in a hard place and he always got out. Same with napoleon who learned from verdear. But if being a military genius wasn’t enough both men were loved by their people and ran their governments quite effectively. I just don’t get how a person like that exists and lives a life like that.

  • @343guiltyreflex
    @343guiltyreflex 5 месяцев назад

    The Ridley Scott movie was a tragedy

    • @thomaswheeler.5330
      @thomaswheeler.5330 5 месяцев назад

      From a certain point of view, one could also say it was a comedy. ;)

  • @RaNc0R
    @RaNc0R 5 месяцев назад

    Mosfilm did the best with both Waterloo and war and peace, thanks Sergei Bondarchuk unlike the Ridley Scott movie.

  • @HOWTOLIFEEE
    @HOWTOLIFEEE 5 месяцев назад

    Great movie

  • @healthtrooper
    @healthtrooper 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ahh the Sharpe reference, good...good.

  • @kyoungers
    @kyoungers 5 месяцев назад

    Just to inject a trivial point, a young Christopher Plummer was insanely handsome. [edit: I have seen this movie, yes it is very good]

  • @benmaguire1729
    @benmaguire1729 5 месяцев назад +129

    "No shit! How badass do you have to be for an entire continent declare war on you personally!" Haha! Love that phrase? Great piece by both History Buffs and VTH!

    • @benmaguire1729
      @benmaguire1729 5 месяцев назад +13

      I got my first like from Chris!!!! What a glorious day!!! Thanks my dude 😎

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 5 месяцев назад +5

      It should be noted that the reason for this is because the 7th Coalition still saw Louis XVlll as the legitimate ruler of France, not Napoleon. So rather than declare war on France itself, they present it as an intervention to reverse an illegal coup.
      That line is still dope as hell, I just thought it'd be worthwhile to explain it a but.

    • @Wolfe1966
      @Wolfe1966 2 месяца назад

      ​@@occam7382 Still a stupid mistake from the Brittish to reinstall the impopulair Bourbon monarchy

    • @dupplinmuir113
      @dupplinmuir113 Месяц назад

      Just as happened with the Nazis...

  • @antonakesson
    @antonakesson 5 месяцев назад +41

    Under the trade embargo Sweden had its first and only "war" with Great Britain. Basically we didn't really want to stop trading with one of our biggest customers so was forced into a "war" by Napoleon or else he would declare war on us. But this was a war where no bullets where fired and instead Swedish ships with trading cargo got "apprehended" by Britain, the cargo "confiscated" and the ship and crew returned a few days later. Same happened to British ships in Swedish water. Went on from 1810-1812.

    • @jimolygriff
      @jimolygriff 5 месяцев назад +3

      Didn't know that! Pretty cool way to have a 'war'!

    • @antonakesson
      @antonakesson 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@jimolygriff Wish more "wars" could be like that XD

    • @RedcoatT
      @RedcoatT 3 месяца назад +1

      My favourite war. As Dr Who once said “and everybody lived” 😂

  • @sonofabirch9164
    @sonofabirch9164 5 месяцев назад +57

    Won't lie - love how Chris turned a 90s intro, into a 5 minute complete nerd out. Can't say I'm not the same when watching films like Waterloo or a Bridge Too Far with the airdrops

  • @danielallen3454
    @danielallen3454 5 месяцев назад +21

    Speaking as someone who just discovered 'Sharpe', I almost squealed when you mentioned him and the 95th Rifles.

    • @joeohara3447
      @joeohara3447 5 месяцев назад +6

      it would be so good to see him do a Review series of the Entire Sharpe TV show. I think he's the first American I've ever seen with any knowledge of the show.

  • @thecynicaloptimist1884
    @thecynicaloptimist1884 5 месяцев назад +20

    One of my favourite little scenes in _Waterloo_ was when the cornet is sounding the recall after the Scots Greys charge, and an exasperated Wellington bellows "STOP THAT USELESS NOISE!.....you'll hurt yourself"

  • @grumblesa10
    @grumblesa10 5 месяцев назад +18

    6:30 SHOCKER! An actor playing a young Napoleon who is about the RIGHT AGE! Hey Ridley it ain't that frickin' hard to get little details like that correct..

    • @anathardayaldar
      @anathardayaldar 5 месяцев назад +6

      As if Scott lost a bet and was forced to let Phoenix star.

    • @grumblesa10
      @grumblesa10 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@anathardayaldar LMAO! Probably some truth to that.

  • @jldldr3933
    @jldldr3933 5 месяцев назад +14

    Actually not only it is available on youtube, a channel has made editions including stuff that didn't make the cutting room floor.

  • @AMERICANNERD76
    @AMERICANNERD76 5 месяцев назад +25

    This was what I expected 2023's Napoleon to be like! A Waterloo like Epic with a Patton like story structure. Boy, was I disappointed!!!

  • @verdun16
    @verdun16 5 месяцев назад +18

    Waterloo will always be my 1st or 2nd movie ever made. The uniforms, acting, 17,000 extras, and literally just everything about it is amazing

  • @rpgcross
    @rpgcross 5 месяцев назад +20

    Never been this early to a VTH video
    I should really watch Waterloo

    • @tjal8709
      @tjal8709 5 месяцев назад +4

      It's available to watch on RUclips!

  • @leecal5774
    @leecal5774 5 месяцев назад +9

    Fantastic movie. Totally agree with yours and the original presenter’s take on this film. Also from the same year (1970) another classic was made - ‘Tora Tora Tora’ - but criticised at the time. But is the best film ever made about the attack on Pearl Harbor (in my humble opinion any away!).

  • @launiesoult3248
    @launiesoult3248 5 месяцев назад +11

    A lot of people don't like Napoleon.I think he was a great man.And I think he gave us a lot of new innovations in government and banking and lot of different stuff that he doesn't get credit for because he was a I have to think about the was a master general

    • @slinkbradshaw8674
      @slinkbradshaw8674 5 месяцев назад +8

      He's a very complicated figure. At the very least he deserves respect, even if some don't like him.

    • @afriendlycadian9857
      @afriendlycadian9857 5 месяцев назад +1

      I wouldn't say great is the right word. He's far more complicated than that

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 5 месяцев назад +1

      You can google who was both a hero and a tyrant without specifying names and basically every website, essay etc is about Napoleon.

  • @TheRiehlThing42
    @TheRiehlThing42 5 месяцев назад +10

    Would love a really well done film on Julius Caesar.
    Father dies when he is a teenager, and is now head of the household.
    His family is in the Marius faction, and marries into that faction further.
    Becomes a priest of Jupiter.
    Sulla wins the civil war and Caesar is on the purge list. He eventually is forced to resign his priesthood, freeing him to pursue politics and military service.
    Joins the military and gains experience fighting.
    Captured by pirates and held hostage. Gets freed, returns with a small force and captures and executes the pirates.
    Studies law and becomes an orator.
    Enter politics.
    Elected the pontifex maximus.
    Rises politically.
    Forms an alliance between Pompey and Crassus, two men that hated each other, yet Caesar could get them to join him in an alliance.
    Becomes a consul.
    Passes Populist reform (mainly by fighting dirty, while the other side fought dirty too)
    Proconsul of Gaul and wages war across Gaul, showing how great of a general he has become.
    Civil War against Pompey, and wins, with again, great leadership and strategy.
    Ends a Civil War in Egypt, and brings them further into Rome's influence.
    Gearing up to face Parthia, and revenge Crassus, is assassinated by former friends and son of a former lover who he viewed as almost his own son.
    Posthumously adopts an intelligent nephew as his son and heir, who starts the Roman Empire.
    A priest, a soldier, captive to pirates, pontifex maximus, becomes a lawyer/orator, a "president", a great military general, a butcher of Gaul, a civil war winner, a dictator, and father to an empire. It is rather astonishing how much went on with him.

    • @emilianohermosilla3996
      @emilianohermosilla3996 Месяц назад +1

      Great idea and a great summary of his life!

    • @frogwaffle7
      @frogwaffle7 Месяц назад +1

      excellent summary w/o even giving a mention to Celopatra

    • @TheRiehlThing42
      @TheRiehlThing42 Месяц назад

      @@frogwaffle7 Cleopatra I think was more influential in the Augustus and Marc Antony time. She was a very influential person, but I think her time to shine was later.

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 15 дней назад +1

      That is going to be a very long film.

  • @anderskorsback4104
    @anderskorsback4104 5 месяцев назад +6

    New rule to the VTH Drinking Game: Take a shot whenever a random guitar noise is heard in the background.

  • @Decrepit_Productions
    @Decrepit_Productions 5 месяцев назад +5

    Yes, Waterloo is available here at RUclips. There are even a few decent-resolution "Fan Cuts" that splice in stills from scenes that didn't make the final theatrical cut. For me, their insertion breaks the flow a bit, but since I've seen Wateroo many times it's not a big deal.

  • @aaronputhalath2778
    @aaronputhalath2778 5 месяцев назад +9

    The 1920 Napoleon movie was also very revolutionary for the time. I believe it required a special projection format of 4 screens or something for the battle sequences.

  • @JupitersLegacy753
    @JupitersLegacy753 5 месяцев назад +5

    Good video! I would just like to add something about the “Guard”.
    The Guard was basically split into three sections. The young guard, middle guard and the old guard. There were also the Chasseur or light infantry.
    The young guard was sent to fight the Prussians on the right flank and held the Prussians up at Plancenoit until they were forced to retreat.
    It was the middle guard and old guard that was sent into the final assault on Wellington’s center. The middle guard was the battering ram as the old was in reserve behind them. Other infantry units rallied with them to join in the final assault.
    The middle guard and Chasseur broke and fell back onto the old guard where they made a last stand just south of La Haye Sainte.

  • @joonalavonen5929
    @joonalavonen5929 5 месяцев назад +5

    Didn't the little corporal come from him directing artillery fire and aiming the guns himself as a general. Since that was the task of a corporal.

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 15 дней назад

      His military career really started in 1789 as lieutenant of an artillery regiment stationed in Auxonne.

  • @ChristianSirianni
    @ChristianSirianni 5 месяцев назад +7

    Waterloo, couldn't escape if I wanted to.
    Waterloo, knowing my fate is to be with you.

  • @jason_lee_jones
    @jason_lee_jones 5 месяцев назад +30

    Rod Steiger (Napoleon) had won the Academy Award for Best Actor only three years earlier for his role as the police chief in "In the Heat of the Night" (1967), so he was a Big Get for the Italian/Soviet production. He would last be seen as the nuke-happy general in Tim Burton's "Mars Attacks!" (1996). As mentioned in this video, Christopher Plummer is always exceptional and of equal caliber to play opposite Seitger (akin to Napoleon & Wellington themselves). So the two leads are just fantastic. Dan O'Herlihy, who played Marshal Ney (and was noted upon in this video as bearing a likeness to Ney), is better known today as the head of OCP in "RoboCop" (1987). Orson Welles as King Louis was also very well cast.

    • @jimilmilm
      @jimilmilm 5 месяцев назад +5

      It's mad he won the Oscar for In the Heat of the Night considering Sidney Poitier had much more screen time and , arguably, a much better performance in that film.
      Waterloo though, i'd easily give Steiger an Oscar for his portrayal of Napoleon.

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 5 месяцев назад +1

      I know you’re mostly discussing the actors here, but Wellington was not an equal to Napoleon as a general.

    • @jason_lee_jones
      @jason_lee_jones 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@archivesoffantasy5560 No, but post Waterloo, Wellington matched or exceeded Napoleon's fame in Britain. Interestingly, Plummer matched or exceeded Steiger's fame in the US in the years following this film.

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@jason_lee_jones Yeah that’s true he is a very famous figure in British history and quite a famous historical figure in world history. New Zealand’s capital is named after him. Despite Waterloo not being Wellington’s best victory, as it relied on support that resulted in significant numerical advantage, had Napoleon stayed on Elba, Wellington would be far less famous. Though, even without Waterloo, he would still be considered as one of the best British generals, but he would be far less known. Both the actors did a superb job, I know Plummer played Dracula and I ought to watch that someday. What other movie would you recommend for Steiger?

    • @jason_lee_jones
      @jason_lee_jones 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@archivesoffantasy5560 Man that's tough - he was in more than 100. Obviously this one, of course, and his role in the previously mentioned "Mars Attacks!" (1996) is funny (and lines of his from that film have been sampled in songs). There's "Doctor Zhivago" (1965) and "On the Waterfront" (1954). He has one of the many, many cameos in "The Longest Day" (1962). If you like the Spaghetti Western, Sergio Leone cast Steiger has his lead in "Duck You Sucker!" (1971). Another where he works his acting chops is "The Pawnbroker" (1964), one of Sidney Lumet;s great character study films. The last one I'll recommend here is inspired by a Bette Midler joke: "I never miss a Rod Steiger musical." This was funny because he was known as a hard, gruff guy, but people forgot he was one of the leads in the widely successful film adaptation of the Broadway musical "Oklahoma!" (1955).

  • @slade7490
    @slade7490 5 месяцев назад +4

    Hey Chris! I've always been a fan of Waterloo and History Buffs, and so I always wanted you to react to this video. I just wanted to say, a really great three-video series to do a reaction on would be BritMonkey's British Constitution, since you are into British history and it's filled with humour and facts that you will really enjoy!

  • @neilmorrison7356
    @neilmorrison7356 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great film. I was a Gordon Highlander and one of our officers was involved in the filming of the film as he was a Military Attaché in Moscow during the filming and got to see some of the filming.

    • @ethanlewis1459
      @ethanlewis1459 4 месяца назад +1

      Imagine the stories from the set he would have told you

  • @andrewgeldmacher4765
    @andrewgeldmacher4765 5 месяцев назад +3

    I always wondered how difficult was this movie to produce. Like what was the process for the Soviet Union to film a movie, with a cast of actors primarily from NATO nations. Was their any issues with this being filmed during the middle of Cold War?

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 15 дней назад

      I think the "western" actors never had much if any contact with the Russian soldiers. The Russians would play the massed scenes, the westerners would play the "vignettes", close-up scenes separately.

  • @CritiqueCS
    @CritiqueCS 5 месяцев назад +5

    The sideshow to the battle of Waterloo is called the Battle of Wavre. It was commanded by Saxon General, Johann von Thielman. At some point, Grouchy realised, that he was chasing the rear guard, but he sort of had to fight them at Wavre, otherwise he had to march in a manner, that would allow the Prussians to arrive sooner than himself. Thielmanns job was to defend the town as long as he could, which he technically failed. The battle ended up in a tactical French Victory, controlling Prussias eastern supplylines and more importantly, lines of communication. But in the end it didn't matter. Thielmann had done his job, fixed Grouchy in place, and didn't allow him to rejoin the Napoleon at Waterloo.
    So thats actually the reason why Grouchy ended up not being able to help Napoleon. Ohh also Thielmann fixed them in place for 2 days, while the French had 33.000 men, where as he at most had 24,000. Also he had 48 guns, to 80 french guns.
    Also the 70.000 he refers to isn't even casualties. I have to assume he just misspoke, cause most sources indicate around 20.000 dead, 50.000 Casualties, and around 70.000 either dead, captured or missing. It would be more a description of the total amount of personnel, currently unable to fight post-battle.

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 15 дней назад

      In those days the fate of the wounded was not to be envied. The "Red Cross" hadn't been invented yet and surgery was very brutal.

  • @xt7519
    @xt7519 5 месяцев назад +1

    One of the best movies about Napoleonic warfare ever. Along with Master and Commander, it's a master class in this period. M&C is, IMHO, a more modern movie that is on par with Waterloo. YMMV of course.

  • @honorablechairmanmeow8698
    @honorablechairmanmeow8698 5 месяцев назад +4

    The movie is available on RUclips in 4K. Somehow it never gets taken down. I love it.

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines 5 месяцев назад +3

    The irony of the Russians playing the French is palpable. Oh and Waterloo is usually free on RUclips. It varies from year to year but it's usually there.

  • @stranger299a
    @stranger299a 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hope you will get to his video on Masters And Commander at some point

  • @RENASK
    @RENASK 5 месяцев назад +4

    thank you very much for reacting to history buffs

  • @totallynotalpharius2283
    @totallynotalpharius2283 5 месяцев назад +2

    The actor who played Marshal Ney is a descendent of the man himself

  • @novachronoyt2928
    @novachronoyt2928 5 месяцев назад +2

    I recently watched Waterloo after I watched the 2023 Napoleon Movie.

  • @samright4661
    @samright4661 4 месяца назад +1

    I couldn’t finish the New Napoleon movie, it’s a sorry attempt at a love story. Personally i never cared and the Great Generals love life i want battle scenes 😂😂. Cesar, Trajan , Napoleon had the love of the Military

  • @maxcorsten3178
    @maxcorsten3178 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sooo, now that Epic History has uploaded their entire Napoleons Marshals Episodes into one video... can we pweasee get your commentation for it???

  • @SimonBellaMondo
    @SimonBellaMondo 5 месяцев назад +4

    Waterloo, couldn’t escape if I wanted to

  • @jameswilson7599
    @jameswilson7599 5 месяцев назад +1

    You should react to History Buffs Master and Commander Far Side of the World it’s a great film and a good video

  • @shawnmiller4781
    @shawnmiller4781 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is General Blucher any relation to Frau Blucher?
    Sorry couldn’t help it

  • @darkforremancer5039
    @darkforremancer5039 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is one movie that I will completely agree with Nick about how using practical effects has an amazing quality boost on films, especially historical battle films. That being said, I do find it annoying when he just disses CGI. He says he has no fundamental problem with CGI, but he seems to go out of his way to hate it. I 100% believe that practical effects should try to outweigh CGI in modern films. That being said, movies like Lord of the Rings with their tremendous scale, can only be done so much effectively with just practical effects alone. Those movies reached a good balance between using practical for character makeup and costumes like humans, elves, and orcs, real-life landscapes, and miniature sets and then using CGI for massive fantasy locations and creatures. CGI is not inherently bad, but like many things, it is being mishandled due to its cheaper price now. Thus giving it a negative connotation.