Happy NU Year! | NU Blue Hammer Review ft. James Kniffen - Tough Sport Pattern!
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- This is a review video comparing the NU Blue Hammer to the Purple Pearl Hammer bowling balls!
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Those shots with the Envy really highlight how tough a flat sport pattern is & the importance of controlling the reaction. He had no margin with that ball in that pattern, while the NU & Purple were money. Nice perspective.
Yup, the NU isn't completely a pure "urethane" lane-control skillset but it bridges the gap between proper urethane shapes and control oriented resin shapes better than anything else out there right now I think! Glad you enjoyed, Luke crushed it as always with this one.
Thank you Luke for another great review and analysis. I am very excited for your "Black Pearl" review. Glad you are a free agent.
I just got this last week and am already a huge fan. It is so good on house from the left side it's like an old pair of your favorite slippers like throwing an ole Columbia U-Dot from my hay day. It just looks right to my eye going down the lane. Good stuff Luke and James of course.
Yuuuup... one of the lefties in our Thursday scratch league in Lawrence had some monster sets with his. Luke the GOAT strikes again! I'm just here to hopefully knock down a few pins lol
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises I'll have to pick one up then. Couldn't get my Gem to settle down and the Quantum Evo was a bit flaky tonight.
Yeager strike at 6:49! Old-school reference if you ever happened to bowl in central Alabama from about 1990-2020. Named after a guy who literally got one of those almost every week.
The Hammer effect is real. Their entire line is very underrated and does not get the love it deserves. The new Hazmat also looks amazing as well as the 3.0. Bill ONeill just won another major using the 3.0 on TV. He did the very thing you mentioned in that he used the carrydown to his advantage. While Barnes moved in with the P2; Bill stayed closer to the gutter and piped the 3.0 playing around 7-8.
Yeah, that TV pair got super ugly (versus the rest of the week) at the Players after the first couple matches on the right side of the lane... Bill caught some breaks but also the general concept 100% applies. If urethane's being thrown and you need to get out of it, figure out where the carrydown is and then figure out how to leverage it to your advantage!
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises I have noticed the past couple years that EJ Tackett is really good at that. Even with his rev rate; he doesnt just make the big jump left. He seems to have mastered the art of playing the shim once that carrydown appears.
Bill did change balls though. He went to a polished 3.0 to get downlane easier and kept his angles straighter.
I like the evolution of this channel and i am looking forward to seeing what is next. No holds barred on the great content!
Awesome video! The one ball that I wish I could've seen you compare the NU to is the Purple Solid Reactive. They actually have the same core in them. The Purple Solid Reactive has been one of my favorite balls that hammer has released. I was thinking about getting the NU Blue, but if it''s that similar to the Purple Reactive, I'd just assume get another Purple.
We might eventually get there, but this is "nu" territory, so we're going to be playing catch up for a few months. What I've seen of the Purple Reactive vs the NU is pretty different, the Purple Reactive is much more of just a weaker reactive ball, where the NU is quite a bit earlier and smoother. I don't think they're very close at all.
I got the NU Blue for Christmas and am going to get it drilled tomorrow.
I appreciate this review, most ive seen have compared it to Urethane and how it slightly misses, this turns the thinking to compare it to a different category of balls where it really slots. Way to think outside the box and not be just a hampster running on a wheel
Yeah I think too many are fixating on the idea that it was "supposed to be urethane," and yeah, while it's not exactly a Purple Hammer, it's still REALLY close, but everything else that it is in addition really breaks the mold in my opinion. We just went through this with the Clone though, they said it was a UFO Alert replacement, it definitely wasn't, but what it is, is a great reaction in a different direction. I still think the NU will get the job done as kind of a twist on a urethane reaction, but the full extent of its capabilities and use cases should be the bigger focus as far as I'm concerned.
@@LukeRosdahlvery well said - as I've used the NU more I'm viewing it much more as a control-oriented compliment to my reactive balls, rather than a proper urethane ball the same way a Purple Hammer might be. Not quite what the marketing said it was, but in this case I definitely don't think that's a bad thing at all!
Always interesting to see different brands comprehensively reviewed being an SPI head.
I watched the Players Championship in it's entirety this past week and maybe I'm oblivious, but I can't recall seeing a single NU going down the lane. Whole lotta Black Pearl thane' though.
Perhaps that pattern was more demanding of that kind of shape/reaction. I don't bowl on sport so I'm not overtly knowledgeable in this regard.
Nice video Luke / Mr Shim-Wrecker.
The NU didn't see very much lane time at all down in Wichita - I believe Stu and Barnzy were talking about that on their show earlier today. The 78D Black is a much better "traditional" urethane look and super control + up the lane is how you strike on short at Northrock (which is also why the IQ78/U looked as good as it did out there). Situations where you need urethane blend but on longer patterns where you have to play the track area or inside the track are where I would expect the NU to see more use. Hope that makes sense, and glad you enjoyed!
If you look under the tournament notes at the list of acceptable urethane and urethane like balls I don't see the nu blue listed. Maybe they weren't allowed to throw it?
@@quinnbostic nope, the NU Blue is absolutely PBA legal. It was specifically developed to work within the PBA rules, but because of how the coverstock behaves with oil absorption the PBA classifies it as a reactive ball not a urethane-like ball - meaning it's never going to show up on the "urethane-like" approved list you're referencing. I saw several folks throwing it earlier in the week, just wasn't the right tool for the job in Wichita specifically.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises OK makes sense now
Yeah, I heard about some use during the PTQ but not during qualifying or later.
Stu's take made a lot of sense talking about it being a blend ball and not right for that condition. I like the way he and Barnes talk about uses/shapes without trying to overhype SPI or disparage other brands. It's obvious they know SPI equipment better but they also clearly pay attention to what other bowlers are doing and try to understand their equipment as well.
Pretty cool. I got the purple daddy. Don't see much reason to change but might get the black pearl when it comes out,assuming it's good on the dry
Based on what I've seen of the 78D black plus throwing the Purple and NU... I actually think there's way more value in NU + Purple or NU + Black than Purple + Black ESPECIALLY if you're just on house shots. The NU can actually still work quite well with shine on it on super high friction lanes, so if that's what you're trying to chase then I'd probably just get a NU and bring the surface up a bit more!
I’ve punched 2 of em.. I can say this thing is exactly how it’s marketed… it is aboout 15-20 ft cleaner than the purple so u can tell it’s reactive but if u cheese grat the cover it gets closer! Love the ball it absolutely kills a house shot.. on a shorter pattern sport it does boomerang more than the purple so u can definitely tell it’s reactive but it definitely will keep a spot in the bag
Yeah that's the wild thing about the NU... adding surface doesn't make it cover a bunch more boards it just brings everything closer to you front-to-back.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises yea for sure those are facts that u speak!! Most league bowlers wanna read the lane left to right. Which is completely wrong. The pattern is oiled front to back.. the length of the pattern is front to back. When ur bowling ball starts to hook or slow down is front to back. House shots really don’t help anyone out. I tell folks go bowl on a sport pattern where there no free hook outside and a bunch of hold inside and you’ll understand front back a whole lot better. Same with their arsenal you will really see the difference characteristics in bowling balls on a sport shot, house shots make pretty much make everything look the same for the most part.
@@joshtherrien4076 yup... that "making stuff look more similar" is the same reason Luke uses Chromium as the main testing pattern. Not so hard that it's impossible to strike with some stuff, but does a much better job than any house shot of helping balls separate from each other!
My trademark is pending but I’ll allow it 😂
My house switched to a thinner oil about a month ago, so it's been really tough for me with my high rev, 70-80 degree axis rotation shot. The ball hooks out of the building now, almost no matter what I throw. It's forcing me so far left that I'm almost in front of the ball return on fresh oil. I've been considering bringing a urethane option with me to try, just to see if I can tame that reaction down somewhat. If it works, I may invest in a new urethane or urethane-like to replace or compliment my 30 year old burgundy hammer that my dad gave me ages ago.
This might be your option, urethane like without being full on urethane that's going to piss the boomers off lol . .
I have a 2H high-rev medium speed teammate with a polished NU. From what I've seen polished makes the ball reaction much longer and sharper than what it was at box finish, but still very controllable. He was destroying the pins with it last night with almost zero ball deflection through the pins. I think with polish, the ball more is more "reactive" like, but the ball responds well to surface changes in a very predictable way. I think the NU would likely be a good ball on a dry shot and you can adjust the surface to get the length you need.
Getting forced too left too quickly messed me up as well this season. However I started using a purple hammer which looks great game 1, lets me stay right longer, and helps give me more hold to play on top of. Then I can go to a low flaring option like the teal rhino pro or the envy tour. All three of those balls are great. I am quite positive the nu blue will match up with me very well but I just don’t see the need right now. I’ll get it eventually I’m sure lol
this ball would be compared to the motiv purple tank
How do you find this compares to the Fever pitch? Fever was a killer ball for me and this seems like a similar urethane-like reaction
Eh, not remotely close. The fever was much more like a purple hammer or a black hammer, the feel on this one is completely different
@@LukeRosdahl gotcha. So sounds like they would fit better as a 1-2 then replacement. Thanks!!
Out of curiosity, does this nu blue cover act similar at all to the spec cover that was on the crux prime and promotion?
100%... if you told me the NU was actually SPEC with the Hustle core I could totally believe that.
EDIT after talking with Luke I think I'm misremembering what SPEC does, as I haven't thrown a ProMotion in well over a year. I would defer to Luke's take on this one, apologies for any confusion I may have caused.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprisesinteresting. I’m speculating that torms ship has sailed on SPEC though…. so that leaves them searching if they decide they need ball reaction like this in the line. All their thane ++ balls have been flops so it would be interesting to see how they respond to a sales success like the NU
@@CurtisL8.3066 oh yeah, Storm is out of the materials (and can't source more) for SPEC from what I've heard. Will definitely be interesting to see how this progresses.
As far as general reaction characteristics, sure, I just don't think the Nu Blue cover is anywhere near as strong as spec is, and that's the trick here, getting this strength of a technically reactive cover to be this stable, controllable, and consistent.
How would this pair with a hustle camo? Too similar?
Depends, if you kept surface on this one, plenty of difference, but it acts kind of reactive when it shines up, so then they'd be close-ish
what is James's layout on this and how would you compare this ball to the Scorpion Low Flare？
Huh, looks like I forgot to add it. I'm pretty sure it's 4x2, not a very strong core, so stronger layout will help as much as possible. This isn't in the same universe as the Scorpion, this is slightly stronger urethane but the SLF is a full on reactive ball, even though it's a tour type or smoother version. They're just really not similar enough to realistically compare.
i am thinking of getting one, but cant decide on the layout, from ur videos, you have a 5" amd James with higher rev. went with 4", I am confuse on what I should choose. my spec is 16 mph with 300ish rev. right hander
@@JLeeREpros He went 4 1/2, not 4. I only went 5 to be able to compare it to all the other symmetric balls that will be drilled with 5" pins to show the difference. I consider the videos more than I consider that ball or the layout I'd actually like to use. I use the same layouts on everything so I can show people the differences between the balls, putting a different layout on everything would muck up the comparisons, so I wouldn't read anything extra into it. Would probably go with James' layout on this one because of the lower differential, and also because you have a lower rev rate.
Thank you for clearing things up for me...👍👍👍
@@JLeeREpros as Luke noted, I went 4x2 on my NU Blue and 4.5x2 on my Scorpion... and I think the layout choices on both of those compliment each ball well. Set my SLF up to be a straight ball down from my Envy Tour (which is at 4x5x2) and it serves that role SUPER well.
Also definitely agree that the SLF and NU Blue are totally different use cases.
Is there any comparison between the NU coverstock and Roto Grip's VTC solid? I would assume the VTC has more "grip" How would NU compare to the RIP?
I haven't thrown a Hyped Solid or Hustle Camo in a minute and never used a RIP so Luke might have better input on that side... but from what I remember of those versus what I have from the NU Blue there really isn't much comparison. I'd expect the NU to be significantly earlier and smoother (and less directional change) than a Hyped Solid at like for like surfaces, and the Hyped Solid at 2000 was very close to a lane shined Venom Shock for me if that gives a bit more context that direction.
The NU's cover really does create stability and early roll without massive traction in the fronts or massive directional change... and does that unlike anything else on the market tbh. Definitely a unicorn ball at the moment in my mind. Aside from the Summit (which is in a completely different traction and friction response zone anyways), the NU is the only other resin ball I've thrown where adding a ton of surface brings everything closer to you in how it transitions WITHOUT adding significantly more board coverage to the mix at the same time.
Not really, the NU cover is still very urethane like, I don't think it really compares very closely to regular reactive coverstocks. The NU will still be earlier and quite a bit smoother, definitely not as angular as even lower end reactives, while still being earlier, so it's definitely more the urethane feeling direction than the reactive direction, but it's just reactive feeling enough to give it the right amount of separation.
@@LukeRosdahl better way of saying it lol, thanks
Would you recommend the NU for bowlers who are rev dominant with low ball speed?
It definitely wouldn't hurt if you let it shine up or even just polish it. It's going to be one of the better options out there
How would yall compare this to the iq tour 78/u?
It's not close, the 78 is much earlier, definitely quite a bit slower, more like traditional urethane. This ball is stable and controllable and round throughout, but definitely cleaner up front with more left in the tank down lane. Definite compliments, zero overlap.
But when are we getting the James UFO review....
lol that's lost forever at this point
throw ball, touch glasses, repeat.
LOL right . .
@@LukeRosdahl my tick is patting my hip. didn’t realize until i watched vid
You alluded to them, without specifically saying it, so I was looking for a nuanced answer... Do you really think NU is any different than SPEC? And I'm speaking specifically about the cover. You made your point clear about the cores, but think of it this way, if Storm had put a super high RG, Low Diff core wrapped in SPEC, do you think the results would have been any different?
Personally, I love SPEC, and I think Storm screwed up the marketing from day 1. Hammer approached it the right way, telling people this is our attempt at replicating Urethane, whereas when SPEC came out, Storm tried to tell us all that it was the Strongest Cover ever and that just set people up for failure, because we know less than half the industry understands what 'Strong' even means.
Tl;dr If you put the Hammer Core in SPEC cover, do you really think it would be much, if any, different?
At least from my feel from throwing the NU... if you told me this was SPEC with the Hustle core, I could totally see that as feasible.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprisesthat's what I figured...
"True technological advancement."
"Nails the design intent and perfectly hits that gap that hasn't been hit before."
"lightning in a bottle, unicorn kind of reaction."
only to hear the guy throwing it say:
"Yeah it feels exactly like the SPEC cover Storm came out with 5 years ago."
@@KennyGrinols that's a bit of a reach, you're reading something into what we're saying that simply isn't there.
Sure it's a combination of what feels reminiscent to other stuff in the past, but this PACKAGE is not one anybody else has done and this PACKAGE produces some unique results. I've had 5 or 6 different SPEC balls at one point or another and none of them, including two ProMotions with different layouts and a bunch of different surfaces, could begin to approach the lane-control tricks that I've got with the NU Blue in my hands.
This is not a "gotcha" moment, as much as it seems like you might be looking for one. :)
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises How can direct quotes be a reach?
Luke literally said, "A true technological advancement.". And then you said, effectively, "if you told me it was 5 year old recycled technology from Storm, I would believe you.".
So tell me, what technology was advanced? SPEC technology that existed 5 years ago? Or the Hammer core that's been around for decades? Which of these technologies do you think is a true advancement?
Unless you're trying to tell me that a core+cover combination qualifies as a "technological advancement"?
If you want to say the package is perfect, be my guest. Nothing wrong with that opinion.
But if I told you that the Pink Widow Urethane was the greatest "technological advancement" in bowling, because it combined the Gas Mask Core with a Pearl Urethane cover... would you take me seriously, or laugh at the notion that a core/cover combo qualifies as a technological advancement to bowling?
Storm stopped making SPEC because it's not possible to acquire the materials to make it any more, that's why the Sun Storm was a special edition, they just made as many of those as they could with what they had left.
Also, I don't think this cover is near as strong as SPEC. It seems to have a similar friction response and similar general characteristics, just not near the actual dig or traction level. SPEC at 1000 grit is a COMPLETELY different strength vs this cover at 1000. Yes I also agree that Storm screwed up the marketing, as they seem to do repeatedly (also see DNA, another "strongest cover ever").
It's also a similar idea to Microcell polymer, which is also a similar idea to SPEC.
Also . . this total package is an advancement because it offers a urethane like reaction without being urethane. There's a reason most Motiv staffers don't use Microcell balls when everyone else is throwing urethane.
It does nail the design intent and perfectly hit a gap that hasn't been hit before. What other ball does or really gets close to what the NU Blue does in respect to reaction AND this kind of versatility?
It is a lightning in a bottle, unicorn type of reaction. So is something like a Phaze 2, Hyroad, Venom Shock, etc.
Covers feeling similar doesn't equate to total package effectiveness.
This is exactly why I added the extra comments I did in the video, yet apparently shilling is just in my blood despite having zero reason to do it I guess.
i don’t think storm is making the best balls anymore and i’ve been storm guy since started bowling with a little sprinkle here and there of other stuff that looked like can’t miss and they have been passed up across the board
We'll see, hoping to get my hands on more stuff to check out
All my storm stuff is cracking