unpopular opinion but i love the disorganized lack of chorus in a lot of these songs. it’s different and just feels so authentic. definitely my all time favorite album. it’s really carried by jonny’s vocals tho.
Relativity will go down as the best post hardcore album of all time, and no one can change my opinion on that. This album was ahead of its time, and was such a shocker when it was dropped.
Emarosa was Jonny’s best live band. That was the peak of his live performance. It’s a totally different experience live. I grew up in their hometown and their shows to this day are a sublime memory for me, having seen the rest of his bands live as well (and seeing his solo gig in a couple more months). Those rock-style breakdowns were so unique at the time. And the songwriting structure gave that album so much replayability.
I remember they were on a tour with a bunch of heavier bands like Attack and Maylene and they ended up having the crowd in a trance bc of Jonny's performance.
This band is for big fans of Jonny. If you don't love Jonny's singing you won't like it, the reason ppl love it is because it's a showcase for his vocal ability.
This is the most experimental metalcore I've ever heard imo. Every 4 bars it sounds like a different song or has a change in instrumentalization or pace. It's insane.
I'd consider this album a classic from that era, although I don't think it's a 10/10 masterpiece front-to-back. Appreciate your honesty though mate, not everyone has to be head over heels on first listen. Would love to see you react to Greatest of All Lost Arts album by Lower Definition, also released in 08. One of my fav post-hardcore albums, certainly from that era. Has Jonny on a track and features Tino on drums who later became more known as the drummer for Of Mice and Men. They were inactive for a decade but started releasing new songs in 2021 saying a new album was coming. I've enjoyed those tracks as well but it seems the album is taking longer than I hoped.
Lower D was another band i will forever love like emarosa. Still to this day, 16 years later, emarosa and lower D are constantly in my active playlists. The newer songs lower d released were AMAZING. I don’t think we’re gonna get another album from them, but just happy i got 4 more songs from them to add to the library.
You aren't the only one, I hated the album when it came out. It definitely grew on me as time passed especially knowing all the history and now is definitely my absolute favorite album with Craig in it. Keep jamming it and im almost positive it'll have its effect on you! Glad you chose to give it a shot!! 🤘🤘
For me this is Jonny's best work. Dance Gavin Dance always was too little jonny for me. If there is another singer in the song with him, it diminishes his singing quite a bit I think. And Slaves is good but way softer in instrumentalization. I get why people (maybe you included) don't like it. It's really something that grows on you (or at least it grew on me). It feels like listening to something like dream theater the first time, it's way too chaotic to just take in and enjoy on a first listen. I listened to the album a lot of times and still get songs or passages confused with others because it's such a wild ride. You could show me a 20 second clip of a song on this album and I wouldn't know which song it was off of and I don't know any other album for which this applies. But I really enjoy it. His vocals sound fresh and energetic and in this regard match the music quite well. All in all - thanks for giving this a try, even if it wasn't for you sometimes. Once again it shows that music is just incredibly subjective because the first third of the album is my favorite part :D
Heard this when it first came out. I was in high school driving the country backroads with a friend when he put this CD in. I fell in love at the first note. Wore that CD out!
The way I describe this album is its a metalcore album intrsumentally, but it just has Jonny craig vocals. A lot of people say the instrumental is the weakest point. They tried a lot of weird shit. The self title one is the better Jonny album imo. Everything sounds like its written around him type shit yk?
Idk if people are saying this to trigger me, it's for sure more "screamo" or alt. rock+post-hardcore. There aren't any pinch harmonics or pedal tones (AILD/Trivium/ATR/Death), and way too many chord voicings.
They were in a really weird transition cause they were going from very heavy with the last vocalist mostly doing screams and then they got more experimental with the instrumentals and then went straight to clean vocals. All and all I love the album honestly. Not for the average listener. Go check out their first EP if you want the heavy stuff. The original vocalist is now in Like moths To Flames
This is the first album i ever heard Jonny's voice on but its essentially background music for him to show off the entire time. I like it less the older i get, just hard to listen to.
You REALLY need to check out their self titled. It addresses everything you disliked about this one, and imo might be one of Jonny's best ever projects.
This shits so close to my heart too. Set it off like napalm and the past should stay dead taught me to sing outside of jesus songs. Its very different from dgd, proggy as hell but lacking some funk
I feel like their second album was much better and more polished, this album was good but it died with time. I still listen to the second album regularly.
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unpopular opinion but i love the disorganized lack of chorus in a lot of these songs. it’s different and just feels so authentic. definitely my all time favorite album. it’s really carried by jonny’s vocals tho.
heads or tails real or not is the best song on the album imo
Agree
''Full of content that it went your way'' has given me chills for over a decade now. I feel old and sad its been so long.
Agreed
Relativity will go down as the best post hardcore album of all time, and no one can change my opinion on that. This album was ahead of its time, and was such a shocker when it was dropped.
Emarosa was Jonny’s best live band. That was the peak of his live performance. It’s a totally different experience live. I grew up in their hometown and their shows to this day are a sublime memory for me, having seen the rest of his bands live as well (and seeing his solo gig in a couple more months). Those rock-style breakdowns were so unique at the time. And the songwriting structure gave that album so much replayability.
I remember they were on a tour with a bunch of heavier bands like Attack and Maylene and they ended up having the crowd in a trance bc of Jonny's performance.
Seeing them at the burl was something else!
This band is for big fans of Jonny. If you don't love Jonny's singing you won't like it, the reason ppl love it is because it's a showcase for his vocal ability.
This is the most experimental metalcore I've ever heard imo. Every 4 bars it sounds like a different song or has a change in instrumentalization or pace. It's insane.
It's post hardcore. Arguably progressive post hardcore.
@ayeb0ssI do kinda get a Glassjaw vibe ngl
TAILORED SHEETS
TO FIX THIS DIRTY MEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS
@@aaronvilla3824didn’t get the lyrics right lol
TO FIX THIS DIRTY BEEEEEEEED
YOOOOOO! This is my "hidden gem". It means a lot to me and is some of the best music I've ever heard. Looking forward to watching this!
Heads or Tails is my favorite song on this album, hands down. I listened to it on repeat when i first heard it for days.
Same. His vocals are insane on it!!!
Same i got the lyrics "head towards the light the dark has no place here" tatted on my inner right forearm sometimes I forget I have it 😂
I'd consider this album a classic from that era, although I don't think it's a 10/10 masterpiece front-to-back. Appreciate your honesty though mate, not everyone has to be head over heels on first listen.
Would love to see you react to Greatest of All Lost Arts album by Lower Definition, also released in 08. One of my fav post-hardcore albums, certainly from that era. Has Jonny on a track and features Tino on drums who later became more known as the drummer for Of Mice and Men. They were inactive for a decade but started releasing new songs in 2021 saying a new album was coming. I've enjoyed those tracks as well but it seems the album is taking longer than I hoped.
Lower Deezy
Lower D was another band i will forever love like emarosa. Still to this day, 16 years later, emarosa and lower D are constantly in my active playlists. The newer songs lower d released were AMAZING. I don’t think we’re gonna get another album from them, but just happy i got 4 more songs from them to add to the library.
Fun fact on Even Bad Men Love Their Mothers, thats jonnys mom singing background vocals with him
Oh I always thought it was sister, but I could totally be wrong
@codypieper728 his sister is on a song on the first Slaves album called The Hearts of Our Young
@@JohnDoe-mv2be omg I didn't know that!!
Even bad men love their mothers*
You aren't the only one, I hated the album when it came out. It definitely grew on me as time passed especially knowing all the history and now is definitely my absolute favorite album with Craig in it. Keep jamming it and im almost positive it'll have its effect on you! Glad you chose to give it a shot!! 🤘🤘
There's like 3 songs on it that arent the best. I think the self-titled is a more rounded album.
My dad used to rip into some of these songs for not having choruses. I still love this album tho 😂
For me this is Jonny's best work. Dance Gavin Dance always was too little jonny for me. If there is another singer in the song with him, it diminishes his singing quite a bit I think. And Slaves is good but way softer in instrumentalization.
I get why people (maybe you included) don't like it. It's really something that grows on you (or at least it grew on me). It feels like listening to something like dream theater the first time, it's way too chaotic to just take in and enjoy on a first listen. I listened to the album a lot of times and still get songs or passages confused with others because it's such a wild ride.
You could show me a 20 second clip of a song on this album and I wouldn't know which song it was off of and I don't know any other album for which this applies. But I really enjoy it. His vocals sound fresh and energetic and in this regard match the music quite well.
All in all - thanks for giving this a try, even if it wasn't for you sometimes. Once again it shows that music is just incredibly subjective because the first third of the album is my favorite part :D
Drop dead gorgeous in vogue album
LETS GO!!! been waiting for this
GOAT! Jonny Craig is so extremely talented ! This album NEVER gets old! Another favorite of mine.. Toast to the future kids…
This is one of the best albums in post-hardcore. Absolute game changer.
Never take your emo GF to a johnny Craig show. 😢😢😅😅😅😅
Heard this when it first came out. I was in high school driving the country backroads with a friend when he put this CD in. I fell in love at the first note. Wore that CD out!
The way I describe this album is its a metalcore album intrsumentally, but it just has Jonny craig vocals. A lot of people say the instrumental is the weakest point. They tried a lot of weird shit. The self title one is the better Jonny album imo. Everything sounds like its written around him type shit yk?
Theres like 3 songs on this one that break the flow.
Idk if people are saying this to trigger me, it's for sure more "screamo" or alt. rock+post-hardcore. There aren't any pinch harmonics or pedal tones (AILD/Trivium/ATR/Death), and way too many chord voicings.
@@morganthem more like the 2010s metal core era. The risecore days
They were in a really weird transition cause they were going from very heavy with the last vocalist mostly doing screams and then they got more experimental with the instrumentals and then went straight to clean vocals. All and all I love the album honestly. Not for the average listener. Go check out their first EP if you want the heavy stuff. The original vocalist is now in Like moths To Flames
This album is a true masterpiece. This one and the Saosin's self titled album made a big part of my teenage life. Haha
Relativity Is a amazing album, the self titled one is also, you have to react to it
The next album I definitely think you’ll like more. Their self titled 2010 album.
Classic Album
The album aftet this really dials everything in really cleans up the stuff they didnt do well on this album
This is the first album i ever heard Jonny's voice on but its essentially background music for him to show off the entire time. I like it less the older i get, just hard to listen to.
You REALLY need to check out their self titled. It addresses everything you disliked about this one, and imo might be one of Jonny's best ever projects.
shes waitingggg shess waitingggg
This shits so close to my heart too. Set it off like napalm and the past should stay dead taught me to sing outside of jesus songs. Its very different from dgd, proggy as hell but lacking some funk
You should react to Coheed and Cambria's album in keeping secret of silent earth3
Finally!
I feel like their second album was much better and more polished, this album was good but it died with time. I still listen to the second album regularly.
I think the rawness of the album is exactly why I love it so much
He left because because of the Macbook thing
Oh, Lmao😂
Yeah Slaves is way better too
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The next album is way better. It has Melodies and choruses