I'm a firm believer that the quality of one's guitar tone is closely related to the brand of beer which one is drinking. Excellent stuff, Colin. Thanks!
What I love about your presentations is your honesty and easy going manner, if you make an error you leave it in and that makes what you say completely credible. Everyone can learn from that. 👍👍👍
After years of swapping Pups in and out of various guitars I came to the conclusion that its horses for courses, certain Pups suit certain types of music but then you can always use EQ to adjust the sound to suit, I have not bought any new pickups for about three years and am happy with the sounds of my guitars but knowing fullwell that somewhere along the line someone will come out with a set of Pups that have me drooling at the mouth
True. I've got stock Wilkinson 's in my Vintage which sound fine with my modest pedal board and some tweaking to my Code 50. Having said that I can spend hours poring over pedals and pick ups etc. !
Epiphone have a cool video where they trick the editor of guitarist that they're paf pickups in a blind test. The video is on RUclips. It's s great watch.
Yes Colin! I found that strumming the chords simply and letting them ring back-to-back was perfect! For me personally, I was much better able to discern if there was a significant difference between the two guitars with the exact same pickups. For all intents and purposes, the Gibson pickups in the (Tokai/Epiphone) made the two virtually identical in sound. Quite frankly, it's all about the pickups and not anything much to do about the company that made the guitar. It seems to me it becomes difficult to justify paying thousands extra for the name on the headstock...Thanks for a fun series!
Loving this series, Colin. I had to do some catching up on episodes as I was out of town dealing with ailing parents, but I am back home now and all is well. Thank you for all of the amazing work on these films.
The Murray's by far my favourite sounding, would love to try a set similar out at some point. The Epiphones surprised me how well they held up, that wiring loom is really doing the work helping them be their best.
Great entertainment! Please keep these kinds of videos coming. I recently bought an Epiphone Les Paul Custom fully expecting to hate the Probuckers and planned on changing them. I was surprised how good they sound to me and I will keep them. I think the Murray's sounded very nice!
I love your channel and was especially looking forward to this comparison. I have an Epiphone ES 335 Pro which I really like and which of course has the Classic Pro pickups. I had been considering upgrading them, But after seeing this have decided to wait. I liked the Gibson pickups best of these, They were more articulate in my opinion, but I don't think there was enough of a difference to justify upgrading yet. To be honest I have more important things to focus on such as improving my playing. Your videos are always enjoyable, and usually share some valuable information as well. Thanks.
Hey man, I really dug this. Got an excellent '93 Epiphone Custom (Korea Samick Factory) - it's been an excellent guitar to me over the gigging years but I got a bit of crackle in and around the Vol/Tone Knobs & Jack and it's handy to see you work on them, inspiring me into venturing to do the same. Great channel, great content, excellent entertainment. A good manner about ya as well and a real pleasure to listen too! - Cheers!
This is a great one, Colin! I'm was really very eager to hear how these pups compare. From these 3 sets, I liked the Burstbuckers most, then Probuckers close 2nd. It's definitely not by a mile! The boutique pups were probably better in the feel and responsiveness, but definitely not in my price range... I really appreciate the fact that you did the comparison back to back this time so that we could hear the real differences! And soldering and tinkering part was also very interesting, I can definitely benefit from your experience. It must have taken a lot of time and effort, thanks!
Colinn Thanks so much for this sound comparison of not only the pickups, but hardware, and the actual bodies/resonance at the end as well!!! This was a Great Journey with You, and many times guitarist may know a sound they prefer, but haven't taken the time to really listen and discern the differences!!! I really appreciate Your time, effort, and Humor during this process!!!! Cheers!!!
Great vid Colin mate, very interesting to hear the difference between all the pups in the same guitar. Have a great Jubilee weekend mate, hope you get a beer or 2 in! ;)
All the pickups sound good to my ear and would be happy to have any of them in a guitar I owned, but I think the brighter sounding Epiphone Alnico Classic Pros suited the Tokai the most. But as we all know everyone has different tastes so guess you get what sounds best to you and be happy there are folks like you making these great vids to help us decide. I own Epiphone and Gibson Les Pauls all sound different in their own way hence more than one. Cheers Colin.
Everyone's going to think I'm daft for making yet another comment, but here I go. This film is a great resource for hearing the differences between these pups. I appreciate all of the work that it took to make. I just realized that my Epi SG Custom '61 has the Alnico Pro pups, and my knee jerk, pickup snob reaction was that I should put something better in it. After carefully watching and listening to this again, I realize that it's probably a waste of time. Besides, I like the way it sounds as it is. Thanks for your service to the guitar community, as daft and nerdy as we can be!
To me the BurstBuckers sounded the best of the three today. I'm sure that a huge reason, for me anyway, is because they're unpotted. The other pups don't sound bad, they're just a little stifled by the wax. Out of all of the pups I think the Monty's take it by just a little bit over the BurstBuckers. But after all that, that Tokai actually sounded pretty damned good stock in my opinion. If I didn't have my Epi '59 I would seriously consider getting one. Great video as always...see ya' next Friday!!!
There's a strat talk thread comparing the epiphone probuckers which are alnico 2 and 3 respectively and gibson's classic 57 (They are really close if not exact same) really detailed comparison
Great video. Just what I was wanting to compare. Probuckers vs ACPs vs the Burstbuckers. A set of Gibson 57s would have been a great addition, but overall awesome!
Several times through the video, great playing! I had to grab the Les Paul Tribute and give it a go with the Missing Link Audio Pick Ups in. It’s really amazing what strings and pick ups can change in tone, feel, and response. I chuckled when you cut the connector off the pick up’s wires. 😂
Hi Colin! Thanks for this video! I loved watching the struggles you were having in the beginning, simply because that reminded me of something goofy I would do and I just had to laugh. I also loved watching and hearing the different Epiphone pickups. Epiphone pickups have been slagged for years as junk. But I really think since they've introduce the Alnico Classic Pro's and Probuckers, a lot of people have had to change their minds. I personally think that they are great pickups. My two main guitars (Epiphone Les Paul Studio and ES 339) both have the Alnico Classic Pro's in them. And I have to say that to my ears, my 339 is the best sounding guitar I own! I really love those pickups-so much so, I bought another set and I'm putting them into my new Epiphone 1958 Explorer. That guitar came with some older Epiphone pickups (the previous generation prior to the Alnico and Probuckers). I'm excited to hear what they add to that already awesome guitar. Anyways-sorry for the ramble. Great video, great series, can't wait to see more!! Cheers buddy!
@@theguitaristas They’re not super high end pickups, that’s for sure, but they’re not so bad that they need to be immediately replaced. I know a lot of people used to do that right after they bought an Epiphone. To my ears they’re very good sounding, mid-priced pickup. They’re a great alternative if you’re on a budget and want a vintage sound.
Please get an el cheapo set of eye visors that also magnify to protect your eyes. In the 1980s I was changing a set of strings and overwound the top E ( must have been screwing that tuner tight) thinking of another string and winder. Cut me 1/4' under my eyes. I was in my 20s and could've blinded myself, luckily I just got a neat razor sharp cut across my face. Please be careful.
Your summary was spot on. The guitar, its components and the amp are a dynamic system. Your ears and hands are in the loop. And to a certain extent all of us are able to hear and not hear what we want. Obviously what music you play matters, and maybe you play with/against another guitarist. Etc. So I liked the stock Tokai pups fine after the new tailpiece and top-wrap. I could get whatever else I would need from my rig, touch and pick attack If it ain't broke... For me, the Monty's did it and the Probuckers were surprisingly nice. If one is determined to change pups. Cheers from Dallas/Fort Worth!
Loved the same pickups in different guitars comparison, both sounded great, but I think the logo on the headstock must have a psychological effect on me. Would have been interesting to hear them first without knowing which guitar they were in. Great video as always!
Awesome video Colin! Lots of hard work put into this. I can definitely hear the differences and appreciate your work because i love hearing the comparisons. Those Murray's sound amazing. I have Seymour Duncan Saturday Night Specials in my Les Paul that have similar bite. Also, i always find the slow motion shots totally hilarious! Great fun as always! Cheers, brother!
Hello again Colin, I've been waiting for this next video since last week. Great work again mate , you came to the same conclusion as I have over the years with pickups and modding . All the pickups you wired in sounded great and you'd be hard pressed to say which ones are better than others . Like you said we all have our own sounds in our heads of what we're looking for so it's all a matter of taste anyway . I can honestly say that my tokai experiments with Dimarzio, BHC and BYO pickups were so negligible that I'd be happy with any of them in the guitar. Without changing any settings on my peavey delta blues each set gave me what I wanted. Keep up the good work Colin , and like you said it isn't science and nor should it be .
What your video shows is that Gibson's are very nice guitars and if I had the money I'd have a rack full but I havent. The great thing nowadays is that you can get close sound wise with Epiphones and Tokai's especially if you swap out pickups and for a fraction of the price. Its great really for the guitar buying public.
@@MrYatesj1 Replaced a scratchy stock 250K no name volume pot in my 2007 Squier VM HSS strat with a new 500K CTS audio taper dish back pot. The difference in tone was unexpected and shocking. The guitar with it's DD SC-102 stacked single coil pickups before the swap sounded sterile, lifeless and ice picky, actually didn't play it much as a result. After installing the new pot the guitar came alive with so much more depth and clarity and the ice pickiness was completely gone. Huge change for the better. The 500K volume pot paired with the DD stacked single coils transformed the guitar completely. Has me wondering why Fender used a 250K pot for volume in the first place.
Yet another entertaining and informative show cheers, I have to say I really love the sound of the Murray's. So much so that I've ordered a set for my tokai sg. Will let you know how I feel once there in. Thanks again mate your content is really very helpful and entertaining.
Because of this video, I just bought an Epiphone les Paul Standard IG Ebony to pair with my Epiphone ES335 Raspberry Tea Burst. Thanks for your efforts. Great video.
Have you tried the Sheraton II Pro? I own tons of guitars (many of them very expensive) and the Sheraton might actually be the one that impressed me most over the years. Nope, not an old one, it's a new one. Recently looked to buy an Explorer and tried 3 guitars in a guitar store. One was the top line Gibson. That came out on #2 (a few sloppy craftsmanship flaws that annoyed me). The one I preferred by far (and bought) was the cheapest Epiphone. Whaddayaknow... We've also chosen Epiphones over Gibsons on album recordings on at least two occasions over the years. If it plays good and sounds good it is good. 😎
Another great show. The differences were very subtle yet substantial at the same time. I sure is a matter of choice in what you want to hear. The more feel you play with as a player, the more you can get out any quality of pickup. For example, Jack Pearson who play’s with affinity strats. We just can’t keep getting bamboozled by the latest new thing and focus more on our time playing.
I agree. Don't know if you have seen Dave Simpsons channel (they've had him on Andertons). Anyway, the guy is a Beast, and plays budget guitars like squire bullets and you'd think it was some vintage strat!
So much information jam packed. I'm inspired to change out some pickups this week. Thanks for all the hard work. (the Epiphones held their own didn't they!)
Cheers Margaret, yes I was pleasantly surprised how good the Epiphone's were by comparison! 👍 So If you do decide to change some this weekend pay more attention than I did and you won't get them the wrong way round. 😂🤷♂️
you were staring at the probucker quick-connect , and im thinking - "hmm he's gonna have trouble connecting these" as you proceed to cut the quick connector!! lol. epic moment.
Wow Colin the introduction music is awesome 👌 I know it's intermittent but brilliant mate. Some of the things you do and forget in the videos makes me feel like someone has been watching me.. and then doing a replica video lol
great stuff, thank you for the hard work. the burstbuckers sounded great today, cant wait to see how she sounds with the brass bridge config and looking forward to the next installment in this series.
Great video! The more I play the Alnico Classic Pros in the Epi 335 the more I like them, and it is interesting how you explained that they are more like the 57s..make sense. Looking forward to the next installment Colin..take care
I think on my Gibson 1992 Les Paul there are the 498T and 490R pickups and in the Epiphone l mantein the stock probuckers...l can tell you that l am becoming a fan of the probuckers...l like how they sound very much,also after seeing your experiments on the Tokai...well done Colin...as Always👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣cheers
Colin, I can’t believe that you go through all this trouble swapping in and out and a seemingly endless multitude of pickups for our enjoyment and edification; good on you! I did have to chuckle, however, at the thought of you last time putting in a set of Monty’s pickups and this time saying you’ll be back next week with something completely different. Throw your flannel shirt into the mix and all I have to say is, “I’m a lumberjack, I’m ok!” 😉
Colin- good info. You are a lot braver than me to take apart the guitars. I struggled installing the poker chip on my Tribute…. Keep up the good work- nice guitar work BTW.
Burstbucker 2 has very nice clarity and note separation on bridge, at least when using 50's wiring and 500k pots. Duncan 59 set usually works great with Tokai LP's
Really interesting series Colin. I'm looking forward to what comes next and that's a great tip with the spring and the crocodile clip, I'm fed up having springs pinging all around the room 👍👍👍.
Let me start by saying your playing is my favorite part of the video Well done All the pickups sounded good I think I would be happy with all of them Was pleasantly surprised by the epi pro pickups I like the high end on those
Well done. One of the most informative episodes. I loved the 6 pick up comparison at the end. Most importantly you stated your thought Colin, it helps promote our own. I've got Gibson burstbukers in my Epi '59 so really unferstood the tone, yet I've got Pro buckers in my Epi 60s plus and the have more grit, and I prefer the tone. Now I want to try the '57s. Very stoked with there tone. Never played P90s but thinking of getting another Epi with them. Thanks again for great info and entertainment. Keep 'em coming. 🍻
Cheers man, glad it’s helpful I am getting to the stage where I’m not afraid to trust my own ears a bit more… it’s quite satisfying to discover my hearing still seems to work! 😆👍
@@theguitaristas mate I just love your channel. Opening up so much info. Helps Im around your age perhaps. Im (a youthful, full of piss an vinegar) 52. Cheers again mate. Inspiring me to check out me guitars. About to watch your SG and looping episode. 🍻
Love your content. You have confirmed what I have found over the years. The cheapest way to make the biggest difference in tone quality is replacing the pots, switch and wiring with the highest of quality. Cheap pots can make those beautiful Monty PAFs sound horrible. Cheers!!
@@atlejohnnyrygg7124 After rewatching I don't hear Colin making a comment either way but to my ear the roll off of the new loom was a more even taper allowing more tonal usability over all. I certainly may have injected my opinion which was not Colins' or the groups opinion but from personal experience adding high quality audio/log taper pots are a cheap and fairly easy way to upgrade a guitar.
@@MrYatesj1 at around 48 minutes he says he didn't hear any difference when everything is on ten. Better taper and more usable if you roll off volume and tone. Some wiring looms are quite expensive though. I think the taper and 50s wiring is what will affect tone and usability. In my head 500k ohm is 500k ohm same with caps. You can get linear or audio taper with both cheap and expensive pots, but expensive will probably be more reliable and have better tolerances. Cheapest way to change tone is adjusting pickup-height and/or pole-pieces.
Bought my Gibson Les Paul 2015 anniversary and totally love it (just ordered some aluminium as I'm going to make a removable scratch plate as it was not with guitar and found out Gibson do not sell them and if someone does sell them there going for £175 upwards for a piece of plastic, I will match all the back plates and truss rod covers be rude not to) decided need to sell one of my schecter 7 strings and other stuff to buy a Gibson standard totally love the playability, cracking video again kind sir Thank you very much. Always dropping screws loosing them and finding them two months later in my bare feet 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Not pissing in your pocket here Col, but I think we have similar ears. My preference is a P90, so that’s the way my taste goes. Looking forward to hearing the Murray’s back in the Tokai next week. Rock on, mate.
To my ears I like.. 1. Burstbuckers, 2. Probuckers, 3. Alnico Classic Pro. It's an interesting take on what your ears hear with 57s & 59s comparatively, everything I've heard(and read) about the differences between the 57s & 59s are the magnets, both are wound similarly but the 57s use Alnico 2 magnets and the 59s use Alnico 5 magnets, one would think the 59s would be a bit punchier and brighter sounding vs the 57s. Great video.
The Gibson vs Tokai back to back with the same pups proved to be very interesting. There is an overtone or harmonic distinction, both guitars have it, but the Gibson flourishes a bit more I think - but it's very subtle - at least through my pro audio headphones. As you mentioned, how it "feels" when playing and with amp volume and all of the other attributes is the real difference. I realized too late that I should have closed my eyes so as not to be persuaded by the logo on the headstock! There in lies... Another fine video, Colin!! Thanks for everything you are doing!! 😉👍
It's Friday! Thanks for a great project. For me, the addition of the Burstbuckers gets the Tokai about as close as we are going to get to the Gibson. Not quite but close. It is a Gibson after all. I think the Pro Buckers are a nice second place. I look forward to seeing some Seymour Duncans in action. My favorite is a set of '59 Blues (sh-1). Maybe they will make an appearance? Until next week, Cheers!
Swapped magnets in both Alnico Classic Pros and Probuckers, gives you a little more option wiggle. A5s in a set of PB2&3 in a darkish mahogany top LP, really great! A2s in a set of ACPs in a Lucille knockoff also great. It's basically great luck but combined with other bits you already know the tonal changes, like your Faber tailpiece for instance, you can dial in a good result. Sort of like rejetting a carburetor... Or swapping a carburetor! 🎉
After several listens, the ProBuckers were consistently my favourite. For whatever reason, I liked the BurstBuckers when they were in the Gibson but not in the Tokai.
I thought you'd chewed throught the baseplate thread there Colin...thats why I add those little nuts, you can swap them out several times and not worry about destroying the thread because it has more purchase on the bolt plus holding the pickup more stable helps transfer vibrations.
I thought I had too!.... I can't remember if you include bolts and springs with your pups but it's worth doing as anyone replacing metric pickups will have the wrong bolts. Your system is far superior btw...must take ages to solder those little nuts on! 🙌
@@theguitaristas No I didn't include bolts because I knew you had plenty. Its easy to mount the nut you just screw it onto a bolt and then screw the bolt to the baseplate it lines itself up and you solder away then remove the bolt. It stops the pickups from wobbling in the ring too.
Great vids. I'm not sure if I'm too late to the party however I stumbled across these videos this week and since watched the Epi 335 ones as well. I picked up a Tokai 335-type secondhand during lockdown. I assume it's a Chinese one. The tuneomatic was a bit knackered so I ended up doing some of the changes you've done on this Lock Rock and the 335 - such as the Faber ABR and stop tailpiece. I also replaced the pickups (which weren't terrible but weren't spectacular) with some 57 low wind P.A.F. types from The Creamery in Manchester. They are really good sounding and feel great to play. I did consider replacing the wiring and pots however all the pots felt really good to use and worked well and the switch felt like a good one in use so I left them all (I did get a tech to put the pickups in though because I wouldn't have been able to manage!). I found these videos very well done and engaging. I quite liked the playing as well. All the best.
@@theguitaristas - no problems. I've watched a couple more videos and subscribed now. As a side note, I was really surprised at the quality of the Tokai I got - it really left me questioning my ability to discern what a 'good guitar' was because I picked it up so cheaply!
BRAVO...!!! Monty's and Probuckers do it for my ears. If going for the '57 sounds, the Murray's would be the obvious choice I think. YES... Personally learning much as well as getting my ears tuned up 😎👍 Thanks Colin...BRILLIANT 😎👍 😎👍❤🖖 Love Brother
18:36 lmfao, great edit too,...ive being putting off adapting my set for a while:),... naturally most routes in epi's are way too thin for the quick connect plug. Gibby's have generally had thicker routing channels. great vid so far👍
😆 another tip though... the wires were too short to directly solder them back to the pots as I had intended so had to reconnect the plugs to put back in epiphone. We learned something! 😂👍
Just got the Les Paul 61 SG from Epiphone and the Burstbuckers really have an "attitude" to them the Probuckers and Alnico Classic's kinda don't. That said, I don't think any of these pickups sound bad. Good video! Earned you a sub, been watching various videos of yours suggested to me for a few months now!
With the same pickups, the Gibson sounded slightly brighter and more dynamic than the Tokai. Both of them are within the general parameters of good Les Paul sound. I preferred the Gibson, but I the Tokai sound is how I imagine the Les Paul sound to be having played Les Pauls extensively without ever having owned or fallen in love with one. The Tokai has that kind of syrupy ooze that I imagine some players look for in a Les Paul. Of the pickups you tried today, I really liked the Burstbuckers and Probuckers. Your final back-to-back has started to convince me of the basis for your Monty's enthusiasm. They sound great. They don't sound like P-90s to me, but they have a stringiness that I really like when I'm playing a guitar as opposed to just listening to it.
no need to cut the wires , you can use small needle or small screw driver push that pin out of plastic quick connect, pickup always keep the wires long as you can,those epiphone pickup sounds not bad, there no one pickup is bad sound , all pickup sounds quite nice ,all about your personal taste, no right or wrong. i edit this comment few times, because im watching and make comment at the same time, so keep changing what i felt, i guess finish the whole first ,then make your comment. great video!
The more I watch your struggles, the more I am convinced, I keep the original PUs in my Tokai. I did another thing. There are 2 reviewers I trust on RUclips, Guitaristas and John Robson. Most other channels are sponsored and don't give honest reviews IMHO. So I blame both of you on my latest acquisitions. in the last months I've bought, 2 Tokai Love Rocks, 1 sold with huge profit. 1 Sire Larry Carlton L7. 1 Gibson Les Paul Tribute. If I want another sound, I just get one of the other guitars. 😂😂😂 PS. I like the neck rest Colin uses soooo much. I've ordered it on Ebay. It is the: Hercules Stands HA206
Great video Colin. The burstbuckers have modern twist with vintage vibe. Same with the alnico classic which have brass backplates will sound different to probuckers and burstbuckers which both have nickel silver baseplate. The probuckers sound most like pafs compared to the others. The biggest difference is due to the metals the pickups are made of, specifically the backplates and covers. Nickel silver was chosen because of its low conductivity. You see the conductivity or a metal when in presence of a magnetic field causes eddy currents which resist or fight back the magnetic field of the pickup magnet. This results in a loss of induction which changes frequency response of a pickup. All metals and alloys used for pickup covers have different characteristics because nickel silver was traditional used is what we think a humbucker should sound like. Now nickel silver isn't cheep brass was used as a alternative but because it has different electrical characteristics it sounds more bright where as nickel silver sounds more dark. brass isn't cheep these days either. As you said Colin it's all subjective all the pickups in the video sound brilliant. Very good video mate.
I think you are correct in saying the classic pro's are brighter than the probuckers. I have classic pro's in my epi les paul and the bridge is a bit too bright for me. I need the tone knob on 7 or 8. The neck however I really like. Maybe I should consider a probucker bridge and a classic pro neck. Added bonus is no soldering 🤘
My goodness sir, you are going above and beyond the call. Thank you. BTW are the Burstbuckers wax potted? I read somewhere that all Gibson pups that come stock with the guitar are potted. Thanks!! can't wait for the rest of the videos.
After playing humbuckers for a long time , i have totally switched to P 90 pu's . I have 2 guitars at the moment with P 90 pu's and they both sound great , in all fairness , if you don't like that wooly full /thick humbucker sound ( wich i don't ) and you want the clarity and bite off an single coil ( wich in fact a P90 is ) together with some fullness ( is that a good englisch word ? ) then do yourself a favor and just install a set off good P 90 pu's in you're guitar and forget about humbuckers .
@@theguitaristas And just a little more than a month away from my new Yamaha RSS02T. P90 goodness. Decided to put up an add to trade my new Catalyst for the Keeley Darkside v2...no takers yet.🤞
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I'm a firm believer that the quality of one's guitar tone is closely related to the brand of beer which one is drinking. Excellent stuff, Colin. Thanks!
It works for you as well! I thought it was only me 😂
Debate settled.
My guitar sounds like tabs..
This is true
Yep! Enough New Castle for me and they all sound good...
This channel is criminally underrated. Great content, phenomenal playing, and highly entertaining. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks mate that’s appreciated! 🙏😎
What I love about your presentations is your honesty and easy going manner, if you make an error you leave it in and that makes what you say completely credible. Everyone can learn from that. 👍👍👍
After years of swapping Pups in and out of various guitars I came to the conclusion that its horses for courses, certain Pups suit certain types of music but then you can always use EQ to adjust the sound to suit, I have not bought any new pickups for about three years and am happy with the sounds of my guitars but knowing fullwell that somewhere along the line someone will come out with a set of Pups that have me drooling at the mouth
True. I've got stock Wilkinson 's in my Vintage which sound fine with my modest pedal board and some tweaking to my Code 50.
Having said that I can spend hours poring over pedals and pick ups etc. !
Im well sold on the fact that the Epiphone pups are not just "good enough" but strong contenders. I think they hold their own very nicely. Cheers sir!
Yes absolutely! and as you also just proved it's hard to tell them apart from ones that cost much more... I got them all wrong in your test Mike! 🤣🤣
Epiphone have a cool video where they trick the editor of guitarist that they're paf pickups in a blind test.
The video is on RUclips. It's s great watch.
@@SionynJones Cheers I shall check that out! 👍
Yes Colin! I found that strumming the chords simply and letting them ring back-to-back was perfect! For me personally, I was much better able to discern if there was a significant difference between the two guitars with the exact same pickups. For all intents and purposes, the Gibson pickups in the (Tokai/Epiphone) made the two virtually identical in sound. Quite frankly, it's all about the pickups and not anything much to do about the company that made the guitar. It seems to me it becomes difficult to justify paying thousands extra for the name on the headstock...Thanks for a fun series!
Loving this series, Colin. I had to do some catching up on episodes as I was out of town dealing with ailing parents, but I am back home now and all is well. Thank you for all of the amazing work on these films.
Thanks man, hope you have a relaxing weekend 😎👍
The Murray's by far my favourite sounding, would love to try a set similar out at some point. The Epiphones surprised me how well they held up, that wiring loom is really doing the work helping them be their best.
Thanks!
Ah cheers Hod mate that's really appreciated!! 🙏😊
Your channel is an absolute marvel. I can't say which were better, but I personally loved the Alnico ones because of that extra bite. Great stuff 🍻
Great entertainment! Please keep these kinds of videos coming. I recently bought an Epiphone Les Paul Custom fully expecting to hate the Probuckers and planned on changing them. I was surprised how good they sound to me and I will keep them. I think the Murray's sounded very nice!
Cheers man, I am seriously close to getting one of those.... white, korina, or Jerry Cantrell wino has me in a spin! 😆👍
Really enjoying the show this week. Great source of info and that joke ‘let’s solder on’ priceless🤣
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I love your channel and was especially looking forward to this comparison. I have an Epiphone ES 335 Pro which I really like and which of course has the Classic Pro pickups. I had been considering upgrading them, But after seeing this have decided to wait. I liked the Gibson pickups best of these, They were more articulate in my opinion, but I don't think there was enough of a difference to justify upgrading yet. To be honest I have more important things to focus on such as improving my playing. Your videos are always enjoyable, and usually share some valuable information as well. Thanks.
Cheers Jeff, I think this does show that these Alnico Pro pickups I removed from my 335 were not the cause of the problem! 😆👍
Hey man, I really dug this. Got an excellent '93 Epiphone Custom (Korea Samick Factory) - it's been an excellent guitar to me over the gigging years but I got a bit of crackle in and around the Vol/Tone Knobs & Jack and it's handy to see you work on them, inspiring me into venturing to do the same. Great channel, great content, excellent entertainment. A good manner about ya as well and a real pleasure to listen too!
- Cheers!
Cheers man… hey if I can do it anyone can! 😆👍
This is a great one, Colin! I'm was really very eager to hear how these pups compare. From these 3 sets, I liked the Burstbuckers most, then Probuckers close 2nd. It's definitely not by a mile! The boutique pups were probably better in the feel and responsiveness, but definitely not in my price range... I really appreciate the fact that you did the comparison back to back this time so that we could hear the real differences! And soldering and tinkering part was also very interesting, I can definitely benefit from your experience. It must have taken a lot of time and effort, thanks!
Grabbing the wrong axe for the outro is classic! It sounded great!
Colinn Thanks so much for this sound comparison of not only the pickups, but hardware, and the actual bodies/resonance at the end as well!!! This was a Great Journey with You, and many times guitarist may know a sound they prefer, but haven't taken the time to really listen and discern the differences!!! I really appreciate Your time, effort, and Humor during this process!!!! Cheers!!!
Cheers Blake! 😎👍
Colin's back! Really looking forward to this episode, as I am a big fan of the Epi Probuckers!
They did good! 😎👍
Great vid Colin mate, very interesting to hear the difference between all the pups in the same guitar. Have a great Jubilee weekend mate, hope you get a beer or 2 in! ;)
Excellent series Col. Look forward to the future episodes.
All the pickups sound good to my ear and would be happy to have any of them in a guitar I owned, but I think the brighter sounding Epiphone Alnico Classic Pros suited the Tokai the most. But as we all know everyone has different tastes so guess you get what sounds best to you and be happy there are folks like you making these great vids to help us decide. I own Epiphone and Gibson Les Pauls all sound different in their own way hence more than one. Cheers Colin.
Thank you very much for this huge amount of work that you did for our entertainment, Colin 👌👍🙏
My pleasure! 😎👍
32:55 that's the way to do it! Great stuff. Thank's!
Everyone's going to think I'm daft for making yet another comment, but here I go. This film is a great resource for hearing the differences between these pups. I appreciate all of the work that it took to make. I just realized that my Epi SG Custom '61 has the Alnico Pro pups, and my knee jerk, pickup snob reaction was that I should put something better in it. After carefully watching and listening to this again, I realize that it's probably a waste of time. Besides, I like the way it sounds as it is. Thanks for your service to the guitar community, as daft and nerdy as we can be!
Man this was a lot of work but it was definitely entertaining! Thank you!
To me the BurstBuckers sounded the best of the three today. I'm sure that a huge reason, for me anyway, is because they're unpotted. The other pups don't sound bad, they're just a little stifled by the wax.
Out of all of the pups I think the Monty's take it by just a little bit over the BurstBuckers.
But after all that, that Tokai actually sounded pretty damned good stock in my opinion. If I didn't have my Epi '59 I would seriously consider getting one.
Great video as always...see ya' next Friday!!!
Cheers Joe, have a great weekend mate!
I think for me, the Murry's... and the brass saddle will be cool! Thanks Colin. Have a great weekend. EPIPHONES ROCK
"This is not science, this is going to be flawed." Is the guiding principle in my life, all 55 years and so far still breathing. Great videos
Peace ✌️
Cheers Chris! 😆👍
Great video again Colin mate. I like the Alnico's surprisingly but every time I hear those Murrays I think "yep, they're the ones".
Cheers Mark! 😎👍
There's a strat talk thread comparing the epiphone probuckers which are alnico 2 and 3 respectively and gibson's classic 57
(They are really close if not exact same) really detailed comparison
Great video. Just what I was wanting to compare. Probuckers vs ACPs vs the Burstbuckers. A set of Gibson 57s would have been a great addition, but overall awesome!
Several times through the video, great playing!
I had to grab the Les Paul Tribute and give it a go with the Missing Link Audio Pick Ups in.
It’s really amazing what strings and pick ups can change in tone, feel, and response.
I chuckled when you cut the connector off the pick up’s wires. 😂
Cheers Pinkie, originally that was just a minute of me ‘looking’ at a plug which I thought might test peoples patience a bit? 🤣👍
@@theguitaristas The comedy of looking at it, the slow-mo of cutting it, with the pronounced audio of the “snip” was great.
@@pinkiewerewolf 😆👍I enjoy leaving in moments like that to frustrate the tiktok generation 🤣
@@theguitaristas That makes me chuckle even more! 😂
@@pinkiewerewolf Just gave me an idea for a little extra on the subscription channel... I shall try to upload later! 😆
Hi Colin! Thanks for this video! I loved watching the struggles you were having in the beginning, simply because that reminded me of something goofy I would do and I just had to laugh. I also loved watching and hearing the different Epiphone pickups. Epiphone pickups have been slagged for years as junk. But I really think since they've introduce the Alnico Classic Pro's and Probuckers, a lot of people have had to change their minds. I personally think that they are great pickups. My two main guitars (Epiphone Les Paul Studio and ES 339) both have the Alnico Classic Pro's in them. And I have to say that to my ears, my 339 is the best sounding guitar I own! I really love those pickups-so much so, I bought another set and I'm putting them into my new Epiphone 1958 Explorer. That guitar came with some older Epiphone pickups (the previous generation prior to the Alnico and Probuckers). I'm excited to hear what they add to that already awesome guitar.
Anyways-sorry for the ramble. Great video, great series, can't wait to see more!! Cheers buddy!
Don't apologise its always good to hear from you! 😆 I was pleasantly surprised to find out how well these modern Epiphone pups held up! 😎👍
@@theguitaristas They’re not super high end pickups, that’s for sure, but they’re not so bad that they need to be immediately replaced. I know a lot of people used to do that right after they bought an Epiphone. To my ears they’re very good sounding, mid-priced pickup. They’re a great alternative if you’re on a budget and want a vintage sound.
Please get an el cheapo set of eye visors that also magnify to protect your eyes.
In the 1980s I was changing a set of strings and overwound the top E ( must have been screwing that tuner tight) thinking of another string and winder. Cut me 1/4' under my eyes. I was in my 20s and could've blinded myself, luckily I just got a neat razor sharp cut across my face. Please be careful.
Your summary was spot on. The guitar, its components and the amp are a dynamic system. Your ears and hands are in the loop. And to a certain extent all of us are able to hear and not hear what we want. Obviously what music you play matters, and maybe you play with/against another guitarist. Etc. So I liked the stock Tokai pups fine after the new tailpiece and top-wrap. I could get whatever else I would need from my rig, touch and pick attack If it ain't broke... For me, the Monty's did it and the Probuckers were surprisingly nice. If one is determined to change pups. Cheers from Dallas/Fort Worth!
Cheers Ed, yes I’d say the new wiring definitely made the stock pickups more useable and they weren’t far off the others 😎👍
Loved the same pickups in different guitars comparison, both sounded great, but I think the logo on the headstock must have a psychological effect on me. Would have been interesting to hear them first without knowing which guitar they were in. Great video as always!
Awesome video Colin! Lots of hard work put into this. I can definitely hear the differences and appreciate your work because i love hearing the comparisons. Those Murray's sound amazing. I have Seymour Duncan Saturday Night Specials in my Les Paul that have similar bite. Also, i always find the slow motion shots totally hilarious! Great fun as always! Cheers, brother!
😆👍 Cheers Vad!
Hello again Colin, I've been waiting for this next video since last week. Great work again mate , you came to the same conclusion as I have over the years with pickups and modding . All the pickups you wired in sounded great and you'd be hard pressed to say which ones are better than others . Like you said we all have our own sounds in our heads of what we're looking for so it's all a matter of taste anyway . I can honestly say that my tokai experiments with Dimarzio, BHC and BYO pickups were so negligible that I'd be happy with any of them in the guitar. Without changing any settings on my peavey delta blues each set gave me what I wanted.
Keep up the good work Colin , and like you said it isn't science and nor should it be .
You are a lovely person with a great sense of humor! I like your videos very much!
Thanks for the kind words and support that's very much appreciated!! 🙏😊
What your video shows is that Gibson's are very nice guitars and if I had the money I'd have a rack full but I havent. The great thing nowadays is that you can get close sound wise with Epiphones and Tokai's especially if you swap out pickups and for a fraction of the price. Its great really for the guitar buying public.
The Pots will give you the greatest bang for your buck. Crappy pots will make the best pickups sound thin and breathless.
@@MrYatesj1 Replaced a scratchy stock 250K no name volume pot in my 2007 Squier VM HSS strat with a new 500K CTS audio taper dish back pot. The difference in tone was unexpected and shocking. The guitar with it's DD SC-102 stacked single coil pickups before the swap sounded sterile, lifeless and ice picky, actually didn't play it much as a result. After installing the new pot the guitar came alive with so much more depth and clarity and the ice pickiness was completely gone. Huge change for the better. The 500K volume pot paired with the DD stacked single coils transformed the guitar completely. Has me wondering why Fender used a 250K pot for volume in the first place.
Excellent video and a lot of work. thanks so much for going through all that so we can all hear it for ourselves.
My pleasure! 😎👍
Yet another entertaining and informative show cheers, I have to say I really love the sound of the Murray's. So much so that I've ordered a set for my tokai sg. Will let you know how I feel once there in. Thanks again mate your content is really very helpful and entertaining.
Nice one Troy! 😎👍👍
It's the Murray's for me. Had a kind of harmonic resonance and bite that the others didn't. Sounded more vintage authentic at least to me...
Because of this video, I just bought an Epiphone les Paul Standard IG Ebony to pair with my Epiphone ES335 Raspberry Tea Burst. Thanks for your efforts. Great video.
Nice one! 😁👍
Have you tried the Sheraton II Pro? I own tons of guitars (many of them very expensive) and the Sheraton might actually be the one that impressed me most over the years. Nope, not an old one, it's a new one. Recently looked to buy an Explorer and tried 3 guitars in a guitar store. One was the top line Gibson. That came out on #2 (a few sloppy craftsmanship flaws that annoyed me). The one I preferred by far (and bought) was the cheapest Epiphone. Whaddayaknow... We've also chosen Epiphones over Gibsons on album recordings on at least two occasions over the years. If it plays good and sounds good it is good. 😎
Another great show. The differences were very subtle yet substantial at the same time. I sure is a matter of choice in what you want to hear. The more feel you play with as a player, the more you can get out any quality of pickup. For example, Jack Pearson who play’s with affinity strats. We just can’t keep getting bamboozled by the latest new thing and focus more on our time playing.
I agree. Don't know if you have seen Dave Simpsons channel (they've had him on Andertons).
Anyway, the guy is a Beast, and plays budget guitars like squire bullets and you'd think it was some vintage strat!
@@ceebee491 I have seen his channel. He is a beast and very to the point.
So much information jam packed. I'm inspired to change out some pickups this week. Thanks for all the hard work. (the Epiphones held their own didn't they!)
Cheers Margaret, yes I was pleasantly surprised how good the Epiphone's were by comparison! 👍 So If you do decide to change some this weekend pay more attention than I did and you won't get them the wrong way round. 😂🤷♂️
i think we are hearing only the neck picup in the video.
i love the channel !!!!!
greatings from Greece
you were staring at the probucker quick-connect , and im thinking - "hmm he's gonna have trouble connecting these" as you proceed to cut the quick connector!! lol. epic moment.
Your videos are very entertaining and informative. I love them and I appreciate the time and effort you put into these films. Thank you
Cheers Mike thanks for the support! 😎👍
Wow Colin the introduction music is awesome 👌 I know it's intermittent but brilliant mate. Some of the things you do and forget in the videos makes me feel like someone has been watching me.. and then doing a replica video lol
Excelent video as always, i really enjoy your content. I have a set of Probuckers that came in my Les Paul and i love them.
great stuff, thank you for the hard work. the burstbuckers sounded great today, cant wait to see how she sounds with the brass bridge config and looking forward to the next installment in this series.
Great video! The more I play the Alnico Classic Pros in the Epi 335 the more I like them, and it is interesting how you explained that they are more like the 57s..make sense. Looking forward to the next installment Colin..take care
Cheers Todd, have a good weekend mate! 😎👍👍
I think on my Gibson 1992 Les Paul there are the 498T and 490R pickups and in the Epiphone l mantein the stock probuckers...l can tell you that l am becoming a fan of the probuckers...l like how they sound very much,also after seeing your experiments on the Tokai...well done Colin...as Always👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣cheers
Cheers Marco! 😎👍
Definitely the Murray great video you have the patience of a Saint
Cheers Alan! 😆👍
Colin, I can’t believe that you go through all this trouble swapping in and out and a seemingly endless multitude of pickups for our enjoyment and edification; good on you! I did have to chuckle, however, at the thought of you last time putting in a set of Monty’s pickups and this time saying you’ll be back next week with something completely different. Throw your flannel shirt into the mix and all I have to say is, “I’m a lumberjack, I’m ok!” 😉
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Colin- good info. You are a lot braver than me to take apart the guitars. I struggled installing the poker chip on my Tribute…. Keep up the good work- nice guitar work BTW.
What a wonderful three weeks. Loved the effing and blinding, goes hand in hand with guitar rewiring, especially 50’s style with switchcraft
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Great this little comparison series. You should try the Throbak koss paf pick ups
Burstbucker 2 has very nice clarity and note separation on bridge, at least when using 50's wiring and 500k pots. Duncan 59 set usually works great with Tokai LP's
Really interesting series Colin. I'm looking forward to what comes next and that's a great tip with the spring and the crocodile clip, I'm fed up having springs pinging all around the room 👍👍👍.
Great vid as usual Colin! You’re providing an extremely useful service to our wee guitar community. That Tokai looks superb by the way 👌.
Thanks mate! 😎👍👍
I LOVE your videos Colin, greetings from Ipswich:)
Let me start by saying your playing is my favorite part of the video
Well done
All the pickups sounded good
I think I would be happy with all of them
Was pleasantly surprised by the epi pro pickups
I like the high end on those
Thanks that's appreciated! 🙏😊
Well done. One of the most informative episodes. I loved the 6 pick up comparison at the end. Most importantly you stated your thought Colin, it helps promote our own. I've got Gibson burstbukers in my Epi '59 so really unferstood the tone, yet I've got Pro buckers in my Epi 60s plus and the have more grit, and I prefer the tone. Now I want to try the '57s. Very stoked with there tone. Never played P90s but thinking of getting another Epi with them. Thanks again for great info and entertainment. Keep 'em coming. 🍻
Cheers man, glad it’s helpful I am getting to the stage where I’m not afraid to trust my own ears a bit more… it’s quite satisfying to discover my hearing still seems to work! 😆👍
@@theguitaristas mate I just love your channel. Opening up so much info. Helps Im around your age perhaps. Im (a youthful, full of piss an vinegar) 52. Cheers again mate. Inspiring me to check out me guitars. About to watch your SG and looping episode. 🍻
Love your content. You have confirmed what I have found over the years. The cheapest way to make the biggest difference in tone quality is replacing the pots, switch and wiring with the highest of quality. Cheap pots can make those beautiful Monty PAFs sound horrible. Cheers!!
That wasn't the conclusion in the previous video...
@@atlejohnnyrygg7124 I will have to revisit the earlier videos. Thanks
@@atlejohnnyrygg7124 After rewatching I don't hear Colin making a comment either way but to my ear the roll off of the new loom was a more even taper allowing more tonal usability over all. I certainly may have injected my opinion which was not Colins' or the groups opinion but from personal experience adding high quality audio/log taper pots are a cheap and fairly easy way to upgrade a guitar.
@@MrYatesj1 at around 48 minutes he says he didn't hear any difference when everything is on ten.
Better taper and more usable if you roll off volume and tone.
Some wiring looms are quite expensive though.
I think the taper and 50s wiring is what will affect tone and usability.
In my head 500k ohm is 500k ohm same with caps.
You can get linear or audio taper with both cheap and expensive pots, but expensive will probably be more reliable and have better tolerances.
Cheapest way to change tone is adjusting pickup-height and/or pole-pieces.
@@atlejohnnyrygg7124 I respect your opinion. Cheers
Nice one! Murray's and brass saddle would be my top pick so far.
great series on this guitar, grtz from the netherlands 🇳🇱
more i listen to you ...more i am blow away by ur playing full of feeling and beautiful sound❤❤
Thanks mate that's really kind! 😊🙏
Bought my Gibson Les Paul 2015 anniversary and totally love it (just ordered some aluminium as I'm going to make a removable scratch plate as it was not with guitar and found out Gibson do not sell them and if someone does sell them there going for £175 upwards for a piece of plastic, I will match all the back plates and truss rod covers be rude not to) decided need to sell one of my schecter 7 strings and other stuff to buy a Gibson standard totally love the playability, cracking video again kind sir Thank you very much. Always dropping screws loosing them and finding them two months later in my bare feet 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Ouch! 🤣👍
@@theguitaristas when I do it it's more ohhhhhh you fucker.........then I larff and think "I'm a dick" 🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Not pissing in your pocket here Col, but I think we have similar ears. My preference is a P90, so that’s the way my taste goes. Looking forward to hearing the Murray’s back in the Tokai next week. Rock on, mate.
Cheers John, nice one what a great saying and terrible vision that is! 🤣👍 thanks mate have a great weekend 😎
Love this stuff Colin, congratulations on 20k subs, 🎸✌️
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I like the Murray’s best but they all sound good to my ear.
Thanks Colin, interesting video.
To my ears I like.. 1. Burstbuckers, 2. Probuckers, 3. Alnico Classic Pro. It's an interesting take on what your ears hear with 57s & 59s comparatively, everything I've heard(and read) about the differences between the 57s & 59s are the magnets, both are wound similarly but the 57s use Alnico 2 magnets and the 59s use Alnico 5 magnets, one would think the 59s would be a bit punchier and brighter sounding vs the 57s. Great video.
Im getting my tokai tomorrow at last , the als68 model in tobacco burst ❤
Extremely helpful. Thank you for this.
I cringed when Colin cut the connector off of that pickup. I didn't think he'd do it but he did. Awesome stuff!
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The Gibson vs Tokai back to back with the same pups proved to be very interesting. There is an overtone or harmonic distinction, both guitars have it, but the Gibson flourishes a bit more I think - but it's very subtle - at least through my pro audio headphones. As you mentioned, how it "feels" when playing and with amp volume and all of the other attributes is the real difference. I realized too late that I should have closed my eyes so as not to be persuaded by the logo on the headstock! There in lies... Another fine video, Colin!! Thanks for everything you are doing!! 😉👍
Thanks mate 😎👍
It's Friday! Thanks for a great project. For me, the addition of the Burstbuckers gets the Tokai about as close as we are going to get to the Gibson. Not quite but close. It is a Gibson after all. I think the Pro Buckers are a nice second place. I look forward to seeing some Seymour Duncans in action. My favorite is a set of '59 Blues (sh-1). Maybe they will make an appearance? Until next week, Cheers!
Cheers man, have a great weekend! 😎👍
Swapped magnets in both Alnico Classic Pros and Probuckers, gives you a little more option wiggle. A5s in a set of PB2&3 in a darkish mahogany top LP, really great! A2s in a set of ACPs in a Lucille knockoff also great. It's basically great luck but combined with other bits you already know the tonal changes, like your Faber tailpiece for instance, you can dial in a good result. Sort of like rejetting a carburetor... Or swapping a carburetor! 🎉
Enjoyed this ,great stuff ,Colin ,love your channel 👍
Cheers Steven! 😎👍
After several listens, the ProBuckers were consistently my favourite. For whatever reason, I liked the BurstBuckers when they were in the Gibson but not in the Tokai.
I thought you'd chewed throught the baseplate thread there Colin...thats why I add those little nuts, you can swap them out several times and not worry about destroying the thread because it has more purchase on the bolt plus holding the pickup more stable helps transfer vibrations.
I thought I had too!.... I can't remember if you include bolts and springs with your pups but it's worth doing as anyone replacing metric pickups will have the wrong bolts. Your system is far superior btw...must take ages to solder those little nuts on! 🙌
@@theguitaristas No I didn't include bolts because I knew you had plenty. Its easy to mount the nut you just screw it onto a bolt and then screw the bolt to the baseplate it lines itself up and you solder away then remove the bolt. It stops the pickups from wobbling in the ring too.
Great vids. I'm not sure if I'm too late to the party however I stumbled across these videos this week and since watched the Epi 335 ones as well.
I picked up a Tokai 335-type secondhand during lockdown. I assume it's a Chinese one. The tuneomatic was a bit knackered so I ended up doing some of the changes you've done on this Lock Rock and the 335 - such as the Faber ABR and stop tailpiece.
I also replaced the pickups (which weren't terrible but weren't spectacular) with some 57 low wind P.A.F. types from The Creamery in Manchester. They are really good sounding and feel great to play.
I did consider replacing the wiring and pots however all the pots felt really good to use and worked well and the switch felt like a good one in use so I left them all (I did get a tech to put the pickups in though because I wouldn't have been able to manage!).
I found these videos very well done and engaging. I quite liked the playing as well. All the best.
Cheers Paul! 😎👍
@@theguitaristas - no problems. I've watched a couple more videos and subscribed now. As a side note, I was really surprised at the quality of the Tokai I got - it really left me questioning my ability to discern what a 'good guitar' was because I picked it up so cheaply!
BRAVO...!!!
Monty's and Probuckers do it for my ears.
If going for the '57 sounds, the Murray's would be the obvious choice I think.
YES... Personally learning much as well as getting my ears tuned up 😎👍
Thanks Colin...BRILLIANT 😎👍
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Love Brother
Cheers Richard my friend have a great weekend! 😎👍👍
IMO, Monty's are my favorite. I love that dirty growl that they had
Great video Colin. How about trying a set of House of Tone TRU PAF’s. I have just put a set in my Epiphone Les Paul.
My list is getting longer! 😆👍
18:36 lmfao, great edit too,...ive being putting off adapting my set for a while:),... naturally most routes in epi's are way too thin for the quick connect plug. Gibby's have generally had thicker routing channels. great vid so far👍
😆 another tip though... the wires were too short to directly solder them back to the pots as I had intended so had to reconnect the plugs to put back in epiphone. We learned something! 😂👍
Great series of videos Colin, really enjoyed them, learned lots of new stuff. Thanks for sharing man, stay well, take care ✌️😎✌️🎸
Cheers David! 😎👍
Just got the Les Paul 61 SG from Epiphone and the Burstbuckers really have an "attitude" to them the Probuckers and Alnico Classic's kinda don't. That said, I don't think any of these pickups sound bad. Good video! Earned you a sub, been watching various videos of yours suggested to me for a few months now!
Cheers man. thanks for the sub and support! 😎👍
With the same pickups, the Gibson sounded slightly brighter and more dynamic than the Tokai. Both of them are within the general parameters of good Les Paul sound. I preferred the Gibson, but I the Tokai sound is how I imagine the Les Paul sound to be having played Les Pauls extensively without ever having owned or fallen in love with one. The Tokai has that kind of syrupy ooze that I imagine some players look for in a Les Paul.
Of the pickups you tried today, I really liked the Burstbuckers and Probuckers. Your final back-to-back has started to convince me of the basis for your Monty's enthusiasm. They sound great. They don't sound like P-90s to me, but they have a stringiness that I really like when I'm playing a guitar as opposed to just listening to it.
no need to cut the wires , you can use small needle or small screw driver push that pin out of plastic quick connect, pickup always keep the wires long as you can,those epiphone pickup sounds not bad, there no one pickup is bad sound , all pickup sounds quite nice ,all about your personal taste, no right or wrong.
i edit this comment few times, because im watching and make comment at the same time, so keep changing what i felt, i guess finish the whole first ,then make your comment. great video!
Good tip I shall investigate that! Thanks man 😎👍
The more I watch your struggles, the more I am convinced, I keep the original PUs in my Tokai. I did another thing.
There are 2 reviewers I trust on RUclips, Guitaristas and John Robson. Most other channels are sponsored and don't give honest reviews IMHO.
So I blame both of you on my latest acquisitions. in the last months I've bought,
2 Tokai Love Rocks, 1 sold with huge profit.
1 Sire Larry Carlton L7.
1 Gibson Les Paul Tribute.
If I want another sound, I just get one of the other guitars. 😂😂😂
PS. I like the neck rest Colin uses soooo much. I've ordered it on Ebay. It is the:
Hercules Stands HA206
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Once again, Thank you Sir. Now I know one thing, I like them all!!!😁🎸🎸😁
Great video Colin.
The burstbuckers have modern twist with vintage vibe. Same with the alnico classic which have brass backplates will sound different to probuckers and burstbuckers which both have nickel silver baseplate. The probuckers sound most like pafs compared to the others.
The biggest difference is due to the metals the pickups are made of, specifically the backplates and covers. Nickel silver was chosen because of its low conductivity.
You see the conductivity or a metal when in presence of a magnetic field causes eddy currents which resist or fight back the magnetic field of the pickup magnet. This results in a loss of induction which changes frequency response of a pickup.
All metals and alloys used for pickup covers have different characteristics because nickel silver was traditional used is what we think a humbucker should sound like. Now nickel silver isn't cheep brass was used as a alternative but because it has different electrical characteristics it sounds more bright where as nickel silver sounds more dark. brass isn't cheep these days either.
As you said Colin it's all subjective all the pickups in the video sound brilliant. Very good video mate.
Cheers Sionyn, that's good info and I shall do some more research... I need to know this stuff!! 😎👍
Good show Colin, thanks
Cheers John, have a great weekend! 😎👍
@@theguitaristas You too Colin!
A spectrum analyzer . better than the human ear. Can show the frequencies each pu puts out. Thats my two cents. Great videos Colin! Love them all!
I think you are correct in saying the classic pro's are brighter than the probuckers. I have classic pro's in my epi les paul and the bridge is a bit too bright for me. I need the tone knob on 7 or 8. The neck however I really like. Maybe I should consider a probucker bridge and a classic pro neck. Added bonus is no soldering 🤘
My goodness sir, you are going above and beyond the call. Thank you.
BTW are the Burstbuckers wax potted? I read somewhere that all Gibson pups that come stock with the guitar are potted.
Thanks!! can't wait for the rest of the videos.
No I checked in this film and they don’t seem to be. Cheers! 😎👍
After playing humbuckers for a long time , i have totally switched to P 90 pu's . I have 2 guitars at the moment with P 90 pu's and they both sound great , in all fairness , if you don't like that wooly full /thick humbucker sound ( wich i don't ) and you want the clarity and bite off an single coil ( wich in fact a P90 is ) together with some fullness ( is that a good englisch word ? ) then do yourself a favor and just install a set off good P 90 pu's in you're guitar and forget about humbuckers .
I am with you Antoon... P90s are really where the most interesting tones come from 😎👍
Gotta agree with this.😉😎👍
@@ditchgator1 P90's are the tone of the gods!! 🙌😆
@@theguitaristas
And just a little more than a month away from my new Yamaha RSS02T.
P90 goodness.
Decided to put up an add to trade my new Catalyst for the Keeley Darkside v2...no takers yet.🤞
Good humbuckers sound like P-90's...imolol