Niantic making a daily limit of 50 coins per day from gyms and removing legendaries from research boxes were honestly the worst things they could have ever done
It'd be awesome to have more ways to get legendaries and pokecoins. There are many things that could be implemented if they just listened to their fanbase for 5 minutes. All in All these are just strategies to keep the game pay to win
Remember when incenses lasted an hour with a spawn every 2 minutes? And remember you bought a bunch of incenses because of it? And then niantic retroactively nerfed all the incenses you already paid real money for and wouldn’t compensate you?
Ahh, I remember the days when research breakthroughs were actually good. I got a shiny moltres out of one once! Also, I think it’s hilarious that as soon as he was done talking about heracross’s shiny release problem, I looked down at my Pokémon go and a heracross had just spawned moments ago lol.
I still don’t know why they nerfed the amount of coins from gym, probably because they don’t want us to have too much free. I was thinking about it in the car the other day and I’m glad you brought it up
i would rather take easy 50 coins a day then 100 coins completly hardworking coins plus there was always one team superior with training gastly bots nightmare times
It was because back then, people would put their pokemon in out-of-reach gyms so that they could farm coins daily since there wasn't a cap like there is now. You kept getting coins as long as the pokemon remained in the gym receiving 100 coins daily, and they would use powerful pokemon that people couldn't counter (as Mystic said, there was a lot of blissey and that was one of the reasons why) A lot of people abused the system then. Hence why it's now capped at 50 coins and only getting those when your pokemon returned, rather than getting 100 coins a day for defending a gym
It’s not even the chance for a shiny that upset me, it was the lack of those legendaries. I get that they want people out and about, but even then it can be hard to get enough people playing to do the T5 raids, especially for the small town player. Even still plenty of people work during raid hour, so a big change I’d like back is rotating legendaries. As far as the gyms/free poke coins…that needs some kind of rework, such as being able to pull a mon out to collect coins or coin limits need to be changed or rolled over..it doesn’t seem right that a bliss’s that has been in a gym for over 3 weeks is only going to net 0-50 coins.
You get 50 coins each day. So for small town players it’s ass because I’ve left Pokémon in small town gyms for like 3 weeks while I traveled and they’d come back 3 weeks later at a time when I’ve got other Pokémon in gyms and only get the 50 coins. Adversely. In a city or busy town if your Pokémon are constantly getting knocked out you can still earn coins for the day. Overall. You’re right. It needs a rework. Either more coins per day or more ways to earn coins.
yup u r so rite!! I would love to see legendaries back in breakthough quests. Living in a small town is very difficult with only one gym in the area and only a couple of players playing.
If the game means so much to you, then leave your small town for a little bit. I live in a small town in Florida(pop.-1000) and I just ride to one of two big cities around me to play sometimes when I'm not working. I understand if transportation is an issue tho...
Me, I totally loathe it when I get more than one Pokemon knocked out during the same day. So I can have something in a gym for like a week, but if I already got 50 coins by the time it gets kicked out, I'm SOL. I don't understand why wanting changes to the daily cap is such an unpopular opinion.
I’m happy for friends with remote raid passes. I burn through them but I found international players who seem to be always available when I need raid help 😎
Love how you said July 6th 2020 as the release date for Pokemon Go. Dont know if that was a genuine mistake or the fact that the video is all about mistakes?! Good video and loving the content on the streams and RUclips.
The infuriating thing about pre-2020 weekly research breakthrough legendaries was that their CP's were often low enough to compete in the yet-to-be-a-thing 1500 battle league, if we had saved them. Many players, me included, cleaned out the lower CP legendaries in favor of keeping the higher CP ones.
All old players know they have definitely transferred some good stuff back in the day without knowing it at the time. Don't make me think about it hahahaha
Yup, the only one I have left is raikou on 1500cp I was one of those guys that purified mewtwo as well as I didn’t realise how rare it was back then, it ended up a hundo but I’d rather have the shadow still
Another og player reporting, all of my research breakthrough encounters (mostly consisting of the Gen 3 legendary) were actually all hovering around 1700 CP, so ironically enough I myself wouldn't have been able to use them for great league if it was a thing then. Maybe mine were weather boosted lmao
This is Niantics problem always has been. Their solutions to get people to do more of what they want isn't adding to the game in that area etc it's always to nerf something else good hoping that forces players to do as they please.
I wish I had played a lot more consistently back when the breakthroughs were that great. I only ever got 2 Articuno and a Suicune since I played so sparingly
Atleast you got them... Now try to get them damn near impossible same with Zapdos and Lugia your lucky asf if you have any of them now along with Rayquaza and zekrom and Darkrai wish they make a return
I remember the breakthrough research. I especially remember getting a shiny Ho-oh on my birthday from breakthrough research. Since I never really raided much back then, it was nice getting actual legendaries... Also... I once defended the same gym for 3 months straight and only got 50 PokeCoins total from it. The story behind it was that the park where the gym was... Was closed due to covid so yeah.. my pokemon was in there for 90 days. Great video!! Keep up the amazing work!!! Have a great day!!!
I never knew anything about it until now, I returned to Pokémon Go after 3 years and your video made me learn about Pokémon Go history. Keep up the hard work MYSTIC7!
I just came back in since 2017. I bought pokemon go ++ because i thought it would be epic to automatically spins pokestops and catch pokemons automatically and I can choose great ball and ultra ball to remotely catch pokemon. But Niantic has surely gone downhill. Is it the worst time to come back?
I really miss the old gym system when it came to training them up to fit all the pokemon on there plus the 100 coins daily but having the 1 Pokémon each instead of 10 of the same was a welcomed change
@@MrZorx75 yeah but I feel it’s still something though because it gives free to play players or atleast ppl who decide to spend as little as possible and extra encounter and chance at a shiny or Hundo. Now they are clearly trying to incentivize raiding. They are just trying to get their bread but an extra free encounter from field research wouldn’t hurt them.
@@MrZorx75 i live in a rural place, the closest gym is 10km away and whenever I get the chance to raid there are only 5 to 4 people in the raid, how am I supposed to get legendaries
Thanks for the awesome video. But you forgot the time when niantic added ALL AVAILABLE STARTERS to level 20+ GBL rewards reducing the probability of getting a legendary pokemon from 10-12.5% to about 4%. Also, when Niantic nerfed the GBL stardust rewards to the ground and to answer the community's backlash they gave extra end-of-season stardust which was nothing compared to what we would have earned throughout the season.
I remember those legendary research breakthrough boxes! That was how I got my first ever shiny legendary. Not only was it the first lugia I had EVER gotten, but it was SHINY. I was at my boyfriend’s apartment at the time, completely freaked out when I saw it, and ran to show him. He was so jealous! I will always remember that moment lol.
I miss getting 50 pokeballs from my buddy during community Day. They need to bring that back. And for the research breakthrough, I remember getting shiny Moltres one week, and then shiny groudon the very next week
I live in a pretty rural area with just a few pokestops and gyms. Almost all of them were placed by me after i reached level 40. But, when the research breakthrough box had legendaries in it, i was rarely able to open it because i couldn't get my daily spin stamp. There were absolutely ZERO pokestops in my place, so, for me to spin a pokestop, i had to take the bus and go elsewhere. I still remember going INSANE when the first pokestop appeared in the area, and it was about a 4-5 minute walk from home. But soon after that happened the box was nerfed... But being able to get a legendary from it was SO hype, people who didn't experience that really missed out.
I think a heavy fail is the early gym system where if you battled so hard to beat the gym, the members of that gym could keep feeding unlimited golden razz berries to have full HP or if you defeated a gym and it turned grey, anyone could swipe that gym win
I love watching these old videos lmao Honestly I think Gyms just needed the Winner Priority and all gym slots available. Having to train the gym to unlock the slots was annoying but it was the easiest gold badge. I think 6 pokemon in a gym is a weird number. They could at least made it 8 to match the number of gym badges in the main series. Or left it at 10. They should of also let the first person to put in “Any” pokemon even legendaries/mythical. So they’d be crowned as the Gym leader and get some sort of buff to make their pokemon harder to defeat. Gyms are pretty useless right now. I can easily wipe out any gym with 1 pokemon and if you have friends to help nothing is hard. The pokemon shouldn’t decay and they should have a gym defender buff that makes them feel like a challenge. And once you win gym battles you should get some sort of reward like stardust and xp.
You should have also mentioned the raise in remote raid pass prices because regardless of what pokemon go does we are stupid enough to keep playing the game regardless of price and it will be long forgotten soon that the prices was 250 for 3 passes instead of 300
That and them not doing the remote raid passses in the 1 coin boxes anymore. My discord group is still pissed about that and some I think have stopped playing altogether because remotes are pretty much the only way they can do raids
I've been playing since day one of Pokemon GO, I really appreciate you for making this video and showing newer players what we had and being so honest about their mistakes. Hopefully Niantic will see this and think about things. Thanks again man
Buddy functionality idea: What if for a certain amount of Km walked with a buddy, the trainer were given the ability to improve the buddy’s IVs by 1? And let’s say the Km needed were based on the rarity of the Pokémon and would multiply by 1.2x each IV gained. For example, based on the eggs the Pokémon hatch from, or the level raid needed for the reward encounter, would determine if you needed 20 (tier1), 30 (tier3), 40 (tier4) or 50Km (tier5) walked for a single IV improvement. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Charmander, they would need to walk 148.832km (round to 149) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Gible, they would need to walk 297.664km (round to 298) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Mewtwo, they would need to walk 446.496km (round to 447) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. Pros: - This would make spoofing or radar services less profitable and encourages more gameplay with the same Pokémon. - Entices player to “bond” with a single Pokémon for longer and therefore play the game more often to get the coveted 100% dex. Cons: - All players would have access to the best Pokémon if they walk enough - Pvp players would need to make sure to avoid gaining hearts walking their buddy, or not apply the “bonding” IVs earned. If you can think of any other pros/cons, reply to this comment so we can share our thoughts about the idea and maybe someone at Niantic will pick it up! Ideas welcomed and I’ll update the post accordingly. Side note: Could it be this is why Ash Ketchum’s Pikachu was so powerful? Because Ash built a string relationship with him? Second side note: friend me so we can help each other to lvl50! 6436 8135 6368
The best feature of the game up to this date was trying to find the Pokemon by walking around and getting step counts deppending if you were close or not... It was the most fun feature, they removed it and made them all to appear on pokestops instead, i dunno how u didnt mention this one x)
I was expecting the first Go Fest as one of these. Definitely expected the hearusniantic mess. You probably need to add good Com Day Schedules to this list. Starter/pseudo legendary was great.
There is one more that I would love to see come back. Back in the old gym system there also was AR battling and it was great making the game so much more real and exciting to me.
I had to remind the first 2 seconds of the video like 20 times😂”On July 6 of 2020, Pokémon Go was released” it’s okay, we all know what you meant Mystic
Re: Heracross One of the unfortunate mechanics that Niantic seems to have in their code is that the shiny rate is consistent regardless of how you encounter the pokemon (raids, wild, etc.). For Heracross, they put it in raids and removed it from the wild, and gave us a boosted shiny rate. After the backlash of people complaining, Niantic left Corsola in the wild when it's shiny was released but gave us the base shiny rate, and people complained that it was too hard to raid for the shiny.
Those freaking gyms, man... ok, so I'm team Instinct (smallest team) and I wasn't getting all the good mons for attacking or defending gyms, which meant that all the gyms around me were chock full of defenders from other teams. I could never make a dent in them, and if I was lucky enough to get a mon into a gym, I'd be knocked out twenty minutes later. The entire non-pay method of getting Pokecoins was cut off from me. I much prefer this version of gyms.
I'm also Team Instinct and I remember doing constant trips with my bike into the forrest or mountain areas to take down gyms which were pretty hard to reach. I managed to get my 100 coins almost every day. Tbh it was the most fun I ever had with the game. Right now I can just do everything while sitting on my couch...
Just got back into the game. Thank you for being such a big help to me coming back . I finally got my first mewtwo and other things . You gotta keep making this content brotha
Problem is many people (like me) started playing during Covid and didn't realize that was not how the game usually was. They weren't bonuses to us, they were just the game. The rollbacks still don't make sense to me. Ya, I know, "Niantic's vision." Can you imagine if Microsoft decided their system had to many features and was to easy for people to use, so they went back to Windows 95? Laughable right? :)
That does sound awful but Niantic always finds a way to waste your time with eggs. The number of Vullaby and Scraggy I've hatched trying to find a female Salandit, my god.
I remember all of this stuff. People take the new gym system for granted nowadays, but the gym rework was such a massive deal at the time! If any of your pokemon were in gyms when it happened, they all got kicked out simultaneously. Then gyms were inaccessible for several days, but a bunch of new things converted into gyms as well! Also worth noting that before the rework happened, you couldn’t spin the photo disc at gyms for items. Only pokestops had item-giving powers at first, and gym badges didn’t exist either. It was like a totally different experience.
8:45 I still think I am a winner for NOT buying this ticket, the biggest flob is I purchase this year's GO Fest ticket but I still have fun with it at least
Got take issue with you drawing the line at double-legacy Lapras... that was and still would be an exceptional/welcome research breakthrough. Woobat was the death of the research breakthroughs
Remember when nest spawns got people excited? The last 4 gens released are just route 1 trash in nests now, i miss when something rare was nesting at my local park.
I miss those good research breakthrough boxes! Disabled players finally had a level playing field during the pandemic, not anymore. I knew what the game was when I started playing in 2016, but it was nice to have things equalised for a while ;) Won't stop me playing of course, as I don't remember a single instance of Niantic listening to the disabled Pokemon Go community. So I won't hold my breath ;)
I caught my shiny kyogre back in december 2019 out of the breakthrough boxes, but i have NEVER EVER caught a shiny out of a raid so thats my only shiny legendary
I did take down 10 Blissys once or twice. I remember the hard work I did to get 100 coins a day so I could purchase Lucky Eggs for double XP on evolving, the best way to get XP at the time. I made Level 40 just before the first anniversary, just before they changed the gym system. I was ready to never do another gym battle. Then the change came, and even though the maximum coins were now half, it drew me back in to doing gym battles. Getting a coin every ten minutes is a lot easier than making sure one was live in ten gyms at midnight, which was when they gave the coins out under the old system. Though I get less coins per day than I use to, and I do not like it, I would not be surprised if they have given out more coins per day since then because more people are able to get coins. Also, it made the relationships between the three teams easier, since you now needed them to get your coins. As a whole, it is much better. I still think people who made Level 40 in the first year should get a medal for it; it was harder then. These days, I use the coins more for incubators and raid passes, in that order.
2:56 Did he just say Ditto... Im still trying to catch Ditto for almost 3 years for A Mythical Discovery, Let's Go Meltan, and a field research, and back then you could get them out of a RESEARCH BOX!!!!
I remember the research breakthrough boxes. They were actually insane. It's how I got a shiny Ho-oh and my singular shiny Latios, or as I call him, Minty boi
There was one time back in the good ol’ days where I got a Hundo Exeggute from research, and my immediate research breakthrough encounter was a hundo Lugia
You missed ex raids. Nothing like randomly getting an ex pass and being told to go to a specific stop at a specific time, especially when you were busy at that time
My very first legendary in Pokémon Go was a Suicune that I got from a Research Breakthrough box. Its stats are bad, but I still have it. I wish they’d bring those boxes back.
I stopped playing while the research boxes had legendaries and when I returned I was like Oh boy! What legendary will I get?? then i got a bad pokemon and I was heartbroken
Heracross is only found in half of Florida. I should know, I live just a couple miles north of the the Heracross/Tauros line. I get both without leaving the county
I wish that they added the legendaries back to the research breakthroughs and also made it easier to get coins. I loved the old way of getting coins where you'd collect them every hour for pokemon being in a gym with a daily cap. I hate that you now get them after it's sent back to you. Makes it where each pokemon can get at max 50 and if you get multiple sent back on the same day you're out of luck when it comes to coins...
If it weren't for the platinum medal from research tasks, I wouldn't bother. Breakthroughs aren't worth it and I don't care enough to stack tasks for events
So we're just not going to mention Go Battle Lag. It's nearly impossible to maintain a win streak because of it. They addressed in a while ago and have yet to fix it. It's worse not than it was on launch.
When they had all the birds and the beasts in I got all the birds shiny. One every week it was crazy. The order was Zapdoes, Moltrais and Auticuno. To this day idk if I was lucky or Niantic did something to my game. I didn't get ho oh, Lugia or any of the beasts shiny from those break throughs though.
I started out in late 2019, so my first special research Pokémon was groudon. I was so excited to have a way to get legendary Pokémon, since I lived in a small town where I had no chance of winning a five star raid. The next special research I got was shiny eevee, okay not bad. And then the following Pokémon were not special at all…
As a person who lives in Florida and loves pink shinies, the fact that heracross spawns were turned off during that event still makes me mad to this day.
My brother the other day was like, " I wish I can get a shiny ponyta." 20 minutes later I caught a shiny ponyta which was my third shiny that day in the wild. I caught a shiny tengula and a shiny squirtle.
0:25 NIANTIC GET THESE FRICKING LEGENDS BACK IN THE RESEARCH BREAKTHROUGH!!!!! 8:43 and stop making us paying for just ONE single pokémon every time and event begins
Every time Niantic tries to revert something to how it used to be, it infuriates me. You don't realize the difference stuff like increased click range makes until it's gone.
I get limiting the daily coins to 50, but the fact you can't hold a gym for 4 days and get 200 coins for it is absolutely trash. It literally makes you hope other factions take the gym from you. How can they possibly make sense? You can take over 5 gyms, and if nobody takes one from you you get the same thing as if you did nothing..... BUT, by taking the gym you put coins in the pocket of enemy faction players.
Yeah the research box changes is painful. The only reason I even do research still is for the platinum medal otherwise it’s virtually worthless to even do them
Like does anyone remember those Niantic employees being fired during the Post-Covid game updates who were trying their hardest to make the game better for us? Clearly Niantic hates their fans because even the employees on the inside said they're truly terrible people
If remote passes and premium passes both cost 100 coins. Why can’t we use premium passes as remote passes and why can’t we hold as many remote passes as we like?? Also bring back the old boxes that have 15 passes, 15 incubators and a few other things for 1480 coins!!!!!!!
I spent a lot of money on the game, that's the biggest mistake I made since I started playing, stopped giving Niantic money 2 years ago after that absolute joke of a GO Fest and still haven't given them a penny
Yeah Mystic, Mr Mime was obviously exploitative and paywalled because you paid up front, but Level 50 Legendaries? Not so much, that doesn't get attention because it doesn't FEEL pay to win because you slowly trickle money in and feel like it was your work that got you 296 XLs because you also spent a week raiding. Just some simple manipulation by Niantic that lets them charge 80$ to max out 1 legendary without players having a gut reaction to the obvious scam they're running.
I sincerely miss the old gym system the “new” system was cool for like a year and then it got boring and I missed the genuine challenge the old system brought sure 10 Blissey or Snorlax or a combination of both sucked to face and yeah sometimes gyms did legit take an hour to take but when you do it it felt rewarding it felt like I worked towards something and then to get the levels for other people to join it also felt like the more energy I put into the gym the more I was going to get out of it
Niantic making a daily limit of 50 coins per day from gyms and removing legendaries from research boxes were honestly the worst things they could have ever done
Reverting the pandemic changes was also pretty ass. As well with increasing the remote pass bundle price
It'd be awesome to have more ways to get legendaries and pokecoins. There are many things that could be implemented if they just listened to their fanbase for 5 minutes. All in All these are just strategies to keep the game pay to win
@@leohspies I always thought GBL should grant XP and coins
I understan daily limit. But if tey maid weekly research that has a very small chamce of legned wouæd be THE PLAY
It literally used to be 100 coins a day. They're falling off fr bro
Remember when incenses lasted an hour with a spawn every 2 minutes? And remember you bought a bunch of incenses because of it? And then niantic retroactively nerfed all the incenses you already paid real money for and wouldn’t compensate you?
Tbh. I mostly bought them during events like Go Fest, Community Days, And Spotlight Hours. Ahhh... I miss those days!
Ahh, I remember the days when research breakthroughs were actually good. I got a shiny moltres out of one once! Also, I think it’s hilarious that as soon as he was done talking about heracross’s shiny release problem, I looked down at my Pokémon go and a heracross had just spawned moments ago lol.
You’re right I got shiny ho-oh and shiny groudon out of that box
i also got a shiny moltres from the research breakthroughs back in the day, still my only shiny legendary to this day lol
I got a shiny Moltres too from research breakthroughs! And a hundo Articuno! (Which, to this day, is my only hundo legendary)
I got a shiny moltres, latias and latios out if it.
And today a KlInK
Aye
I still don’t know why they nerfed the amount of coins from gym, probably because they don’t want us to have too much free. I was thinking about it in the car the other day and I’m glad you brought it up
i would rather take easy 50 coins a day then 100 coins completly hardworking coins plus there was always one team superior with training gastly bots nightmare times
It was because back then, people would put their pokemon in out-of-reach gyms so that they could farm coins daily since there wasn't a cap like there is now.
You kept getting coins as long as the pokemon remained in the gym receiving 100 coins daily, and they would use powerful pokemon that people couldn't counter (as Mystic said, there was a lot of blissey and that was one of the reasons why) A lot of people abused the system then.
Hence why it's now capped at 50 coins and only getting those when your pokemon returned, rather than getting 100 coins a day for defending a gym
@@IwillloveY4ever then just put the limit to 100 but u still only get coins when your mon returns
@@bottomtext251 No one complains about it anymore, so it won't ever be changed, but I agree to raise it back to 100
Cause they need to make money and weren't cause lots of people quit.
It’s not even the chance for a shiny that upset me, it was the lack of those legendaries. I get that they want people out and about, but even then it can be hard to get enough people playing to do the T5 raids, especially for the small town player. Even still plenty of people work during raid hour, so a big change I’d like back is rotating legendaries. As far as the gyms/free poke coins…that needs some kind of rework, such as being able to pull a mon out to collect coins or coin limits need to be changed or rolled over..it doesn’t seem right that a bliss’s that has been in a gym for over 3 weeks is only going to net 0-50 coins.
You get 50 coins each day. So for small town players it’s ass because I’ve left Pokémon in small town gyms for like 3 weeks while I traveled and they’d come back 3 weeks later at a time when I’ve got other Pokémon in gyms and only get the 50 coins. Adversely. In a city or busy town if your Pokémon are constantly getting knocked out you can still earn coins for the day. Overall. You’re right. It needs a rework. Either more coins per day or more ways to earn coins.
yup u r so rite!! I would love to see legendaries back in breakthough quests. Living in a small town is very difficult with only one gym in the area and only a couple of players playing.
If the game means so much to you, then leave your small town for a little bit. I live in a small town in Florida(pop.-1000) and I just ride to one of two big cities around me to play sometimes when I'm not working. I understand if transportation is an issue tho...
Me, I totally loathe it when I get more than one Pokemon knocked out during the same day. So I can have something in a gym for like a week, but if I already got 50 coins by the time it gets kicked out, I'm SOL.
I don't understand why wanting changes to the daily cap is such an unpopular opinion.
I’m happy for friends with remote raid passes. I burn through them but I found international players who seem to be always available when I need raid help 😎
"Pokemon Go has never done another event like this"
In walks Keldeo.
"thats what im sayyin"
Love how you said July 6th 2020 as the release date for Pokemon Go. Dont know if that was a genuine mistake or the fact that the video is all about mistakes?! Good video and loving the content on the streams and RUclips.
i was wondering the same lol
yeah i was confused lol
he meant the release date of the pandemic stuff
He wishes for you to forget it
He said it for the comment algorithm
The infuriating thing about pre-2020 weekly research breakthrough legendaries was that their CP's were often low enough to compete in the yet-to-be-a-thing 1500 battle league, if we had saved them. Many players, me included, cleaned out the lower CP legendaries in favor of keeping the higher CP ones.
All old players know they have definitely transferred some good stuff back in the day without knowing it at the time. Don't make me think about it hahahaha
Yup, the only one I have left is raikou on 1500cp I was one of those guys that purified mewtwo as well as I didn’t realise how rare it was back then, it ended up a hundo but I’d rather have the shadow still
I'm always having to remind myself to not raise the CP of some of them because I use them for the 1.5k battle league XD
I have two 1500CP Zapdos from the Breakthrough Box and I can confirm they suck in Great League so lol
Another og player reporting, all of my research breakthrough encounters (mostly consisting of the Gen 3 legendary) were actually all hovering around 1700 CP, so ironically enough I myself wouldn't have been able to use them for great league if it was a thing then. Maybe mine were weather boosted lmao
I love this game. I was just talking about some of these with friends. It is actually a travesty that they took out legendaries from research boxes.
They had Nihilego in one of the research events I believe. Granted not a legendary but he still is a Ultra Beast
@@seabreez2421 it was in raids not reasesrch boxes
@@jacobpommer3825 no the research event was called a Radiant world. I'm not stupid I can what a raid is and research event is.
especially me being a rural player that doesnt spoof, its kinda hard for mento get legendaries…
@@seabreez2421 well you obviously weren’t playing then, because you couldn’t get nihilego from research😭
This is Niantics problem always has been. Their solutions to get people to do more of what they want isn't adding to the game in that area etc it's always to nerf something else good hoping that forces players to do as they please.
I wish I had played a lot more consistently back when the breakthroughs were that great. I only ever got 2 Articuno and a Suicune since I played so sparingly
same, I only got a couple of Latios and Latias from that time. And my only Shiny Kyogre came from those breakthroughs too!
Atleast you got them... Now try to get them damn near impossible same with Zapdos and Lugia your lucky asf if you have any of them now along with Rayquaza and zekrom and Darkrai wish they make a return
I didint get anything. I didint know u could get Those lol
I remember the breakthrough research. I especially remember getting a shiny Ho-oh on my birthday from breakthrough research. Since I never really raided much back then, it was nice getting actual legendaries... Also... I once defended the same gym for 3 months straight and only got 50 PokeCoins total from it. The story behind it was that the park where the gym was... Was closed due to covid so yeah.. my pokemon was in there for 90 days.
Great video!! Keep up the amazing work!!! Have a great day!!!
I got a shiny moltres from a breakthrough box once. Those were the days.
I never knew anything about it until now, I returned to Pokémon Go after 3 years and your video made me learn about Pokémon Go history. Keep up the hard work MYSTIC7!
I just came back in since 2017. I bought pokemon go ++ because i thought it would be epic to automatically spins pokestops and catch pokemons automatically and I can choose great ball and ultra ball to remotely catch pokemon. But Niantic has surely gone downhill. Is it the worst time to come back?
The other big thing I would include is releasing new shinies exclusively in raids with base rate odds. Happened with Rufflet, Corsola, and Snorlax
My first shiny was Latios from a research box. I miss when research boxes were actually worth it :/
Same Here it Was my first legendary and shiny the first time i thought IT was normal for them to be shiny in the Research xD
Same but latias for me
@@jamiehaug3318 same, I only found out otherwise when my next one wasn't shiny
Same but moltres and zapdos
I really miss the old gym system when it came to training them up to fit all the pokemon on there plus the 100 coins daily but having the 1 Pokémon each instead of 10 of the same was a welcomed change
I never got to play during the amazing days of the legendary breakthrough boxes, but i wish niantic brought them back. 😢😢😢
same here that would be really cool
To be fair, they weren’t super exciting, like once a week isn’t much.
@@MrZorx75 yeah but I feel it’s still something though because it gives free to play players or atleast ppl who decide to spend as little as possible and extra encounter and chance at a shiny or Hundo. Now they are clearly trying to incentivize raiding. They are just trying to get their bread but an extra free encounter from field research wouldn’t hurt them.
@@smmsmiley2125 I mean, if you don’t like raiding gbl is an okay way to get legendaries too but yeah
@@MrZorx75 i live in a rural place, the closest gym is 10km away and whenever I get the chance to raid there are only 5 to 4 people in the raid, how am I supposed to get legendaries
Yes 2016…. Man it just makes me almost tear up cuz those were truly unmatched days. That era was too iconic.
Thanks for the awesome video. But you forgot the time when niantic added ALL AVAILABLE STARTERS to level 20+ GBL rewards reducing the probability of getting a legendary pokemon from 10-12.5% to about 4%. Also, when Niantic nerfed the GBL stardust rewards to the ground and to answer the community's backlash they gave extra end-of-season stardust which was nothing compared to what we would have earned throughout the season.
I remember those legendary research breakthrough boxes! That was how I got my first ever shiny legendary. Not only was it the first lugia I had EVER gotten, but it was SHINY. I was at my boyfriend’s apartment at the time, completely freaked out when I saw it, and ran to show him. He was so jealous! I will always remember that moment lol.
just got my first shiny mewtwo, i'm so hype 🤩
10:26 Never say never! You want Melmetal with an exclusive move? Pay us.
I miss getting 50 pokeballs from my buddy during community Day. They need to bring that back.
And for the research breakthrough, I remember getting shiny Moltres one week, and then shiny groudon the very next week
I live in a pretty rural area with just a few pokestops and gyms. Almost all of them were placed by me after i reached level 40. But, when the research breakthrough box had legendaries in it, i was rarely able to open it because i couldn't get my daily spin stamp. There were absolutely ZERO pokestops in my place, so, for me to spin a pokestop, i had to take the bus and go elsewhere. I still remember going INSANE when the first pokestop appeared in the area, and it was about a 4-5 minute walk from home. But soon after that happened the box was nerfed... But being able to get a legendary from it was SO hype, people who didn't experience that really missed out.
I think a heavy fail is the early gym system where if you battled so hard to beat the gym, the members of that gym could keep feeding unlimited golden razz berries to have full HP or if you defeated a gym and it turned grey, anyone could swipe that gym win
I love watching these old videos lmao
Honestly I think Gyms just needed the Winner Priority and all gym slots available. Having to train the gym to unlock the slots was annoying but it was the easiest gold badge.
I think 6 pokemon in a gym is a weird number. They could at least made it 8 to match the number of gym badges in the main series. Or left it at 10.
They should of also let the first person to put in “Any” pokemon even legendaries/mythical. So they’d be crowned as the Gym leader and get some sort of buff to make their pokemon harder to defeat.
Gyms are pretty useless right now. I can easily wipe out any gym with 1 pokemon and if you have friends to help nothing is hard. The pokemon shouldn’t decay and they should have a gym defender buff that makes them feel like a challenge. And once you win gym battles you should get some sort of reward like stardust and xp.
I got a 96% shiny kyogre from the research box back in the day😭 good times.
You should have also mentioned the raise in remote raid pass prices because regardless of what pokemon go does we are stupid enough to keep playing the game regardless of price and it will be long forgotten soon that the prices was 250 for 3 passes instead of 300
That and them not doing the remote raid passses in the 1 coin boxes anymore. My discord group is still pissed about that and some I think have stopped playing altogether because remotes are pretty much the only way they can do raids
I've been playing since day one of Pokemon GO, I really appreciate you for making this video and showing newer players what we had and being so honest about their mistakes. Hopefully Niantic will see this and think about things. Thanks again man
Buddy functionality idea:
What if for a certain amount of Km walked with a buddy, the trainer were given the ability to improve the buddy’s IVs by 1? And let’s say the Km needed were based on the rarity of the Pokémon and would multiply by 1.2x each IV gained. For example, based on the eggs the Pokémon hatch from, or the level raid needed for the reward encounter, would determine if you needed 20 (tier1), 30 (tier3), 40 (tier4) or 50Km (tier5) walked for a single IV improvement. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Charmander, they would need to walk 148.832km (round to 149) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Gible, they would need to walk 297.664km (round to 298) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Mewtwo, they would need to walk 446.496km (round to 447) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs.
Pros:
- This would make spoofing or radar services less profitable and encourages more gameplay with the same Pokémon.
- Entices player to “bond” with a single Pokémon for longer and therefore play the game more often to get the coveted 100% dex.
Cons:
- All players would have access to the best Pokémon if they walk enough
- Pvp players would need to make sure to avoid gaining hearts walking their buddy, or not apply the “bonding” IVs earned.
If you can think of any other pros/cons, reply to this comment so we can share our thoughts about the idea and maybe someone at Niantic will pick it up! Ideas welcomed and I’ll update the post accordingly.
Side note:
Could it be this is why Ash Ketchum’s Pikachu was so powerful? Because Ash built a string relationship with him?
Second side note: friend me so we can help each other to lvl50!
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The best feature of the game up to this date was trying to find the Pokemon by walking around and getting step counts deppending if you were close or not... It was the most fun feature, they removed it and made them all to appear on pokestops instead, i dunno how u didnt mention this one x)
Damn I thought Pokémon go was released in 2016 not 2020.
He made a mistake
@@maxsisto7906 I know. It’s a joke
Been searching for this comment for the whole video
I was expecting the first Go Fest as one of these. Definitely expected the hearusniantic mess.
You probably need to add good Com Day Schedules to this list. Starter/pseudo legendary was great.
There is one more that I would love to see come back. Back in the old gym system there also was AR battling and it was great making the game so much more real and exciting to me.
I'm glad you addressed the research box - I thought Ijke hallucinated the old, cool pokemon. And yes nerfing the gym coins was AWFUL.
I had to remind the first 2 seconds of the video like 20 times😂”On July 6 of 2020, Pokémon Go was released” it’s okay, we all know what you meant Mystic
I'll never forget when Giovanni encounters got stuffed behind event pay walls like 2020
GoFest. I stopped playing the game hardcore since that moment.
Re: Heracross
One of the unfortunate mechanics that Niantic seems to have in their code is that the shiny rate is consistent regardless of how you encounter the pokemon (raids, wild, etc.). For Heracross, they put it in raids and removed it from the wild, and gave us a boosted shiny rate. After the backlash of people complaining, Niantic left Corsola in the wild when it's shiny was released but gave us the base shiny rate, and people complained that it was too hard to raid for the shiny.
Those freaking gyms, man... ok, so I'm team Instinct (smallest team) and I wasn't getting all the good mons for attacking or defending gyms, which meant that all the gyms around me were chock full of defenders from other teams. I could never make a dent in them, and if I was lucky enough to get a mon into a gym, I'd be knocked out twenty minutes later. The entire non-pay method of getting Pokecoins was cut off from me. I much prefer this version of gyms.
I'm also Team Instinct and I remember doing constant trips with my bike into the forrest or mountain areas to take down gyms which were pretty hard to reach. I managed to get my 100 coins almost every day. Tbh it was the most fun I ever had with the game. Right now I can just do everything while sitting on my couch...
Just got back into the game. Thank you for being such a big help to me coming back . I finally got my first mewtwo and other things . You gotta keep making this content brotha
Problem is many people (like me) started playing during Covid and didn't realize that was not how the game usually was. They weren't bonuses to us, they were just the game. The rollbacks still don't make sense to me. Ya, I know, "Niantic's vision." Can you imagine if Microsoft decided their system had to many features and was to easy for people to use, so they went back to Windows 95? Laughable right? :)
I think one that only the og players will remember is eevee in 10k eggs it just felt like a waist of walking
That does sound awful but Niantic always finds a way to waste your time with eggs. The number of Vullaby and Scraggy I've hatched trying to find a female Salandit, my god.
@@bigbearkat2010 at least vullaby can be shiny
I was on a trip to Florida when shiny Heracross came out and I was so confused when it stopped spawning
I miss the legendaries being in research rewards the most
if you got a moltress from the first ever box it’ll say “Obtained: UNOWN” useless fact but cool one. that they just, ignore the boxes.
I remember all of this stuff. People take the new gym system for granted nowadays, but the gym rework was such a massive deal at the time! If any of your pokemon were in gyms when it happened, they all got kicked out simultaneously. Then gyms were inaccessible for several days, but a bunch of new things converted into gyms as well!
Also worth noting that before the rework happened, you couldn’t spin the photo disc at gyms for items. Only pokestops had item-giving powers at first, and gym badges didn’t exist either. It was like a totally different experience.
Unpopular opinion: Taking down Blissey gyms with Machamp and alike then putting a cp10 pidgey in to defend was absolute bliss!
8:45 I still think I am a winner for NOT buying this ticket, the biggest flob is I purchase this year's GO Fest ticket but I still have fun with it at least
lol i actually thought the pokemon is called mr crime
@@mitzki1214 to top it off, I go plus a hundo of Mr. Crime during GO Fest
Got take issue with you drawing the line at double-legacy Lapras... that was and still would be an exceptional/welcome research breakthrough. Woobat was the death of the research breakthroughs
I remember one time getting moltress one time and then I left the game and when I came back I was surprised at how bad the breakthroughs were
Remember when nest spawns got people excited? The last 4 gens released are just route 1 trash in nests now, i miss when something rare was nesting at my local park.
I love this type of content you’ve been putting out! Keep up the good work!
I miss those good research breakthrough boxes! Disabled players finally had a level playing field during the pandemic, not anymore. I knew what the game was when I started playing in 2016, but it was nice to have things equalised for a while ;) Won't stop me playing of course, as I don't remember a single instance of Niantic listening to the disabled Pokemon Go community. So I won't hold my breath ;)
Got some shines today 🙂🙂
I caught my shiny kyogre back in december 2019 out of the breakthrough boxes, but i have NEVER EVER caught a shiny out of a raid so thats my only shiny legendary
In a year Niantic better regret getting rid of our free remote passes
why would they? Whales still buy remote raid passes for money
I'm suprised he didn't bring it up.
I did take down 10 Blissys once or twice. I remember the hard work I did to get 100 coins a day so I could purchase Lucky Eggs for double XP on evolving, the best way to get XP at the time. I made Level 40 just before the first anniversary, just before they changed the gym system. I was ready to never do another gym battle. Then the change came, and even though the maximum coins were now half, it drew me back in to doing gym battles. Getting a coin every ten minutes is a lot easier than making sure one was live in ten gyms at midnight, which was when they gave the coins out under the old system. Though I get less coins per day than I use to, and I do not like it, I would not be surprised if they have given out more coins per day since then because more people are able to get coins. Also, it made the relationships between the three teams easier, since you now needed them to get your coins. As a whole, it is much better. I still think people who made Level 40 in the first year should get a medal for it; it was harder then. These days, I use the coins more for incubators and raid passes, in that order.
I actually managed to pull a shiny Latias and several other legends from the research boxes. Man I miss those times
2:56 Did he just say Ditto... Im still trying to catch Ditto for almost 3 years for A Mythical Discovery, Let's Go Meltan, and a field research, and back then you could get them out of a RESEARCH BOX!!!!
for some reason my friend never told me this but i eventually found out that he got a SHUNDO ho-oh out of a research box
Galarian Mr.Kryme!😂😂😂....spit out the water I was drinking
I have a raikou, moltres, kyoger, and 2 articuno from those boxes. I’m mad they changed cause now they don’t feel as rewarding.
July 6 2020? I think you might be 4 years out with that one :D
Lol you bought the Mr Mime ticket. It was so bad that my friends happily traded theirs away while mine were from later events.
I remember the research breakthrough boxes. They were actually insane. It's how I got a shiny Ho-oh and my singular shiny Latios, or as I call him, Minty boi
The main mistake I remember is no longer having the feet tracker system for wild pokemon. That used to always get me so hyped to play.
I haven’t even started but I’ll never forget the legendary difficulty rocket grunts and bosses that was a ANNOYING time
There was one time back in the good ol’ days where I got a Hundo Exeggute from research, and my immediate research breakthrough encounter was a hundo Lugia
I guess everybody else forgot about the nearby footprints, but I haven’t and never will.
You missed ex raids. Nothing like randomly getting an ex pass and being told to go to a specific stop at a specific time, especially when you were busy at that time
I started playing after the Breakthrough boxes were already made bad (no legendaries)
My very first legendary in Pokémon Go was a Suicune that I got from a Research Breakthrough box. Its stats are bad, but I still have it. I wish they’d bring those boxes back.
I remember getting my first legendary, Latias from the research box, and probably other legendaries. I loved getting it.
I stopped playing while the research boxes had legendaries and when I returned I was like Oh boy! What legendary will I get?? then i got a bad pokemon and I was heartbroken
Heracross is only found in half of Florida. I should know, I live just a couple miles north of the the Heracross/Tauros line. I get both without leaving the county
I really hope they make research breakthroughs good again especially because they have been putting massive emphasis on going out and exploring again
Just got back into the game and with all these cool legendary Pokemon around I get to look at while I try to get far enough to take on a 3 star raid 🤣
I wish that they added the legendaries back to the research breakthroughs and also made it easier to get coins. I loved the old way of getting coins where you'd collect them every hour for pokemon being in a gym with a daily cap. I hate that you now get them after it's sent back to you. Makes it where each pokemon can get at max 50 and if you get multiple sent back on the same day you're out of luck when it comes to coins...
If it weren't for the platinum medal from research tasks, I wouldn't bother. Breakthroughs aren't worth it and I don't care enough to stack tasks for events
So we're just not going to mention Go Battle Lag. It's nearly impossible to maintain a win streak because of it. They addressed in a while ago and have yet to fix it. It's worse not than it was on launch.
Still a lot another young students keep goin! That’s why nevEr stop! I never quit too😊👍
When they had all the birds and the beasts in I got all the birds shiny. One every week it was crazy. The order was Zapdoes, Moltrais and Auticuno. To this day idk if I was lucky or Niantic did something to my game. I didn't get ho oh, Lugia or any of the beasts shiny from those break throughs though.
An awesome type of video! Completely new Brandon :D
BROO I MISS THE RESEARCH BOXES WITH LEGENDARYS SO MUCH I GOT MY FIRST THERE
I started out in late 2019, so my first special research Pokémon was groudon. I was so excited to have a way to get legendary Pokémon, since I lived in a small town where I had no chance of winning a five star raid. The next special research I got was shiny eevee, okay not bad. And then the following Pokémon were not special at all…
As a person who lives in Florida and loves pink shinies, the fact that heracross spawns were turned off during that event still makes me mad to this day.
Bro i went to florida in july for vacation and i found a shiny heracross where i stayed at
My brother the other day was like, " I wish I can get a shiny ponyta." 20 minutes later I caught a shiny ponyta which was my third shiny that day in the wild. I caught a shiny tengula and a shiny squirtle.
I remember I opened a Breakthrough Box during a fire drill once in highschool and got a shiny lugia! good times :')
I still haven't forgotten about the heracross release very upsetting.
0:25 NIANTIC GET THESE FRICKING LEGENDS BACK IN THE RESEARCH BREAKTHROUGH!!!!!
8:43 and stop making us paying for just ONE single pokémon every time and event begins
Every time Niantic tries to revert something to how it used to be, it infuriates me. You don't realize the difference stuff like increased click range makes until it's gone.
I get limiting the daily coins to 50, but the fact you can't hold a gym for 4 days and get 200 coins for it is absolutely trash. It literally makes you hope other factions take the gym from you. How can they possibly make sense? You can take over 5 gyms, and if nobody takes one from you you get the same thing as if you did nothing..... BUT, by taking the gym you put coins in the pocket of enemy faction players.
Yeah the research box changes is painful. The only reason I even do research still is for the platinum medal otherwise it’s virtually worthless to even do them
Your best video yet. Keep calling out niantic! The community deserves it and niantic needs to hear it.
The changes to 1 pokecoin bundles might as well be added to this too
8:11 actually it was every 23hours, I used to set an alarm to claim 😂
Like does anyone remember those Niantic employees being fired during the Post-Covid game updates who were trying their hardest to make the game better for us? Clearly Niantic hates their fans because even the employees on the inside said they're truly terrible people
If remote passes and premium passes both cost 100 coins. Why can’t we use premium passes as remote passes and why can’t we hold as many remote passes as we like??
Also bring back the old boxes that have 15 passes, 15 incubators and a few other things for 1480 coins!!!!!!!
I spent a lot of money on the game, that's the biggest mistake I made since I started playing, stopped giving Niantic money 2 years ago after that absolute joke of a GO Fest and still haven't given them a penny
The gym changes upset us in indiana. Losing the ability to increase how many pokemon in it was sad
Yeah Mystic, Mr Mime was obviously exploitative and paywalled because you paid up front, but Level 50 Legendaries? Not so much, that doesn't get attention because it doesn't FEEL pay to win because you slowly trickle money in and feel like it was your work that got you 296 XLs because you also spent a week raiding.
Just some simple manipulation by Niantic that lets them charge 80$ to max out 1 legendary without players having a gut reaction to the obvious scam they're running.
I sincerely miss the old gym system the “new” system was cool for like a year and then it got boring and I missed the genuine challenge the old system brought sure 10 Blissey or Snorlax or a combination of both sucked to face and yeah sometimes gyms did legit take an hour to take but when you do it it felt rewarding it felt like I worked towards something and then to get the levels for other people to join it also felt like the more energy I put into the gym the more I was going to get out of it