Apprentice Learns how to do EICR's
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Fancy learning years of electrical knowledge in 24 minutes then this is the video for you. Our Human Electrical Book Of Knowledge is giving full in-depth training to Reuben our Apprentice Electrician. Looking at different EICR inspections and referring back to the Electrical regulations. How much information can one apprentice retain in a day? Maybe we should start the college of Artisan Electrics...
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00:00 Coming Up
00:53 Inspection Schedule
04:54 Bonding
06:32 Earthing Conductor
09:49 Escape Route
12:06 Inspecting
15:45 Oh No!
16:50 Switch Problems
18:37 Into The Loft
20:10 Missing Circuits
21:43 Wander Leads
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John is such an asset to your company guys , more videos of him explaining his wealth of knowledge, teaching and problem solving, the guy is a legend 🙌
meet my colleague
That’s a proper apprenticeship. Always taking time to explain everything you are doing, you wouldn’t get that sort of apprenticeship at almost every other company… profits profits profits. But… don’t leave as soon as your qualified you owe them a service for putting the time to make you a top spark. The benefits come later on in your career
Literally mate, apprenticeships nowadays unless you get lucky are very poor, all about making their money out of you and then move you on.
Very true !
As a very old retired electrician and electrical fitter,I'm ver impressed with the standard of workmanship of your electricians ,and the time and training your lads give to apprentices .That time and training is so important for them, to progress to be a proud and professional qualified electrician 💪👊 5 star for sure.🇨🇮
Respect to Jordan for allowing John the time to teach his pupil who will be a top guy in the future. It would be easy to just rush each job just to get the cash in (which I'm not saying is not needed) but this level of teaching will pay dividends! Personally I prefer my electrical work to be done by someone regarded as 'pedantic'. Great work John.
Would love to work under John, the guy is an absolute gem and asset for any company.
Can tell he loves his work and teaching.
Not a sparky but absolutely fascinating episode. Love the fact that Reuben is confident enough to be filmed under instruction. John is such a calm, gentle, knowledgeable teacher and Reuben such a receptive student. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to learn all that detail, with such expertise John is a true asset to the company.
Well done guys, great video, really enjoyed it. 👍
legend has it john is blind. however the glasses and constant wearing of his head torch corrects this
Looks like a really excellent teaching session for Reuben - John seems to be an excellent teacher 👍
Well done Artisan and John on taking time to teach. Investing in the future.
Thanks!
John and Reuben ,
Great vlog of what the journeyman /apprentice interaction should be like . The one to one teaching is critical in order for the apprentice to become farmiliar and comfortible with what he knows and is suppost to know. John did a great job of walking Reuben through the Regs. and how they relate to on site conditions. As Reuben continues with his training the process will become second nature to him and although every job is different the questions will be the same. John is teaching Reuben to think and trouble shoot. It is important that Reuben is learning from as many journeymen as possible during his training .It gives him a broad view of his trade and how to perform it. Each person has their strenghts and John is patient and meticulous.
I like that he said that everyone can do the testing differently but that you have to be able to stand by your testing in court should you have to . Ultimately its about Safety and peoples lives. Many Lessons taught and learned in this vlog.
Great filming Max. You bring these pieces to the greater audience .Thank you
I think John was born with that headlamp attached, great video guys some real gems 💎
You got to record the sound off that ladder!Fine for a horror movie!!🤣
Hats off...
I have to declare...
43 years in this trade...
John is a sh1t hot spark...
A shining example.
( zero puns intended) 100% ace
@5:48 the gas bonding also has to be before the first branch (tee) and ideally 600mm from the meter outlet connection (ideally) not a foot. Gas Safe TB 102. but very good interesting video as always, I am sure Reuben has learnt a lot during this job, but I am sure he learns from the others too. It is good to see him progressing. deffo thumbs up..
Bonding is with in 600mm off the gas meter outlet or before the first tee
I love the John and Reubens team. Just so fun to watch.
Ruben is doing a real good job, hi from a low-voltage guy from Norway😎
Amazing video. So informative and so great watching someone who loves their trade passing it on to the next generation. That’s one lucky apprentice 👍🏼
One of about 6 electricians uk wide that doesn’t instantly c2 a plastic db under the stairs. Refreshing to see!
Ive commented before but John is amazing. A wealth of knowledge. Thanks for the video guys
John strikes me as the guy who arranges his sock drawer on a saturday morning
Unreal knowledge from John, absolute pride taken in his work. 👌🏽
Reuben asking the right questions and soaking up the information like a sponge 🙌🏽
Love this one 🫶🏼
Why is the knowledge unreal ? They are the wiring regs that all qualified electricians should know
like the loft ladder. Sounds like it was being operated by Sooty and Sweep.
Much more informative and enthusiastic John. Excellent.
Really enjoy watching these videos. Really informative. Always good to get other peoples views on EICR’s as I do a lot myself.
Helping those following is what it's all about. Good on you guys. Keep going 💪 and stay powerful.
Man is a genius! more John vids please
Keep up the great work lads!
Great trainer and looks fun to work with. Well done, diamond in the rough. Keep him happy. Good luck lad you will get it.
What a great guy to have on your company.
Not got the glam of Cory but a great video with lots of knowledge. Appreciated. Thanks John
This is great testing and shows me im not too bad. People say I'm pedantic when I test but my view is this - tenants or whoever occupies the premises is relying on me to keep them safe so I have a responsibility to them on a moral level aside from making money. Look at that live cable for example a kid or anyone could have put their hand in that cupboard played with the cable intentionally or unintentionally and died simple as that. Experience and common sense made him hunt for that circuit and he made an important discovery. If he couldn't find the other end obviously he would have pulled it from the DB and if customer gets in touch saying somethings not on then now you know lol 👌
John is such a font of knowledge! Awesome teacher and mentour for Reuben
Big Clive has done some disassembly of RCDs/MCBs which would be good for Reuben.
Great video guys 😎
very interresting , John and Reuben
Great video by the way
The legends say the torch is permanently attached to John.
🤣
I'm I missing something or is John the only spark in the company with his name on his shirt?? Why??? Oh! and great video, as always.
Certainly knows his stuff. I'd become a spark if I could have John teach me!
Gas earth bonding is within 600mm of the outlet before the first T-junction.
Great vlog
Pipe bonding clamp onto PILC... yeah that can be nasty, either comes loose or if too tight can break the paper! Should be a constant pressure spring + braid or sweated-on pigtail...
Wow. John is good 👍
john is the boy!
Hi there great video, can anyone please tell me the book there working from I am considering a career change and would like to have a read though it to help see if this is for me cheers
If that is lead sheath then it needs braid and constant force spring
IP4x top edge, IP2x front and side. First number of IP is solid particals, second number is for liquid.
Out of curiosity in terms of bonding, what do you regard as adequate yo be able to carry out work without changing the bonding, I.e. if you have bonding which is under 10mm but has good continuity or bonding in the wrong place etc.. where do you draw the line and decide it needs doing before work can be carried out. I'm finding this is a bit of a contentious issue.
Not really contentious, I'm afraid: if you've done work that needs you to issue a Minor Works (almost anything these days, given the need to prove to your awarding body, your insurance company and the court that you did not impair the safety of the existing installation) then you must sign to _certify_ (legal responsibility) that the earth bonding was adequate. That means you have assessed that it conforms to the tabulated size, or you bothered to make the adiabatic calculation yourself. When I worked for Housing Associations we had to submit a MWC even for like-for-like replacement of accessories "to prove it was done and properly." I agree that we are going too far down the rabbit hole sometimes, especially when things were "deemed safe under a previous Edition", but if it's printed in black and white then it's not even slightly contentious, regrettably, just more hard work and more expense for the customer :-(
Of course you can just present a warning notice and get the customer to sign it to say they refused to have that piece of work done at this time :-) Like when they don't want you to sell them an SPD for the empty ways you left available for it...
I have the same issues with knowing when to code with bonding sizes / positioning of clamps. In one of the electrical safety first guides it oks allowing a n existing 6mm bond if no signs of thermal damage when changing a CU, so as an engineering judgement, if continuity is good then you are fairly sure it’s going to do a job. Same with where the clamp is situated, often they are beyond 600 of entry but again making a good continuity to all pipework when tested, so from a judgement point of view, you’d feel pretty sure it would do a job 🤷♂️ Would be good to know others thoughts
if continuity is good. it's been in service for decades with no sign of overheating then I think you'd be hard pressed to go beyond a c3 for a 6mm bond where it should be 10.
I feel like this video is an accidental Corn Flakes ad. :D
Interesting video I like the fact that John took the time to reference the regs book when doing EICRs, but the teacher should be clear on the regs before teaching the student I.e. the IP code for consumer units IP4X IP2X, bonding to gas within 600mm not a foot, 0.8 ohms is the ZE not the ZS for TNS, 6mm is fine for bonding in an old system with no thermal damage. It can become confusing for a student when given the incorrect information from there mentor.
19:08 at that point you should've added some horror movie music 😆😆😆
7:34 6mm earth is apparently ok as he states it was ok when installed. EICR is coded to current regs so a 6mm earth should warrant a C3 as minimum on a TN system is 10mm in 18th edition (assuming no thermal damage to show otherwise a different coding)
6mm earth is fine for TN-S on 16mm tails. 10mm is minimum for a TN-C-S system.
@@havoctrousers 6MM was once acceptable for tncs . No signs of thermal damage C3
Jordan - get some Eneloop rechargeable batteries for the testers. Well worth the investment!
In the gas regs the earth bond should be within 600mm and before any branches
Electrics is 600mm as well
@@jonhosier356 yes, but 12 inch was mentioned in the video (unless im confusing it with the porn film i watched similtaniously : )
😂 yeah he said 12 inches - but it’s within 600mm point of entry - or failing that where practically possible
Yup, and always better to do it inside the property when there isn't an annoying T off the top of the meter, to protect the bond from external influences and stop you buggering around inside the gas board's property (that poorly-designed box)
Isn’t the top of the board IP4X? John says it’s IPX4?
the earth bonding on gas should be 600mm from outlet before any tee not about a foot. Your information needs to be accurate if you are mentoring apprentices
I used to work for Bg changing meters and that would of got him investigated leaving them meter tails like that if he was found out. Piss poor work. Wouldn’t be surprised if all the terminals were loose aswell. Also the gas and water pipe should be bonded within 600mm of the outlet or before the first tee fitting
Thermal.....
Or magnetic?
Ip x4 is not concerned about water ingress.
product placement really makes me want cornflakes for breakfast tomorrow...
Reuben learn as much as you can from John
Johnny boy loves an EICR
Looking for an apprenticeship can you hire me ? Age 18 & very interested in electric 🙏🏾
You need to see how it’s done in America. Whole different game.
Having met a US electrician, they don't actually test in the states just turn it on and hope it doesn't go pop
Knows his 🧅🧅
the bonding size to gas and water is 10mm in a domestic property if the meter tails are 25mm and the clamp is fitted on the consumers side of pipework. and i would say the exposed pipework should be bonded even if it is supplied in a plastic pipe the metal pipe could become live if touched by a live conductor if it is all bonded to the main means of earthing it will disconnect the fault.
Bonding is not to prevent the pipe work becoming live in the event of a internal fault within in the installation. It’s to keep everything at the same potential as the installation earth.
Only 2:15 in and... That is truly abysmal and needs a call to DNO! A brand new Trillant telemetry unit and brand new still shiny digital meter, with a label by the cutout that suggests the head was changed in 2015 (perhaps the number above is the old meter reading; I'm on a titchy phone screen so I can't see detail) -- this was a standard cowboy "meter changer" unqualified contractor sent out by the DNO unaudited. Couldn't even be bothered to install the consumer-side iso (I'm pretty darned sure that was a requirement 7 years ago). The only thing they did right was apply the ESC sticker saying "no combustibles here please." To leave that site like that is prosecution-worthy: they will have as part of their contract to ensure the earthing arrangement is still sound and not impacted by their work, but not have the skill or parts on their "van" (probably a secondhand Escort if not the wife's hatchback) to sweat on a proper bond when they found this ancient cable was losing its existing bond. It's obvious they were the ones to put those earth clamps on, but the only thing possible to say in their favour is that they recognized the importance of earth given the cable also feeds another property. Truly shocking 😲, almost literally so ⚡🤯
Edit: now at 3:00, 🤭hot-damn! as the Yanks would say, literally: visible heat damage to the proximal end of the Neutral tail! And apparent discolouration near the supply end of the Line tail. What else could possibly be wrong, and you've not even got to the consumer's property yet!
Meter exchanges are supplier responsibility not dno. And isolator installation wasn't a requirement 7 years ago and still isn't today 🙂
This video is proof of why we should be the same as gas engineers - I mean in terms of it's illegal to work on shit you don't understand. This video is a demonstration of the kind of sparks we should be letting work on stuff. Bloody builders and kitchen fitters (unqualified - some are!) just encouraging more cowboys - if they don't learn and lash stuff in - what's stopping mr jobbing builder?
Is Kelloggs todays sponsor.
For some reason, these guys always find themselves in a … wired 😏 situation 😁
Why did Cory and John swap vans?
You’ll have to wait until august to find out 🤔😏
And some companies are charging as little as £80 for eicr's 🤣🤣🤣
Maaaaaaaaayte it’s not right is it! 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤯
John's in Cory's van ? 👀👀
You’ll have to wait until august to find out 🤔😏
Pov u only watch for Reuben
Already miss cory
He hasn’t left yet!
the little child's finger the British standard finger tool is 12.5mmtry not to give imformation that you are not certain of
Another English Consumer unit user the stairs, Deadly, must Countries in Europe have banned this practise, CU catches fire and people are trapped upstairs.
Supposedly this is now addressed by mandating metal clad CUs. Frequently fitted as a "necessary" compliance issue by cowboys with no other regard to the regs or good workmanship, often leaving the property in a more vulnerable state.
Kellogs
John is a good teacher Ruben will learn more from him than Cory.
John is probably going to be the go-to guy for teaching apprentices, but that doesn't mean Cory has nothing to offer. He seems to be learning from everyone. Lee, Cory, Jordan and John.
It's important to have fun while learning, it helps a lot! A mix of everything will set up this young guy for a long future as a sparky
We’ve found he picks up different gems from different individuals in the company. That’s the best thing about having a variety of backgrounds in our staff!
Come on Artisan!
You present John as the all knowing guru of EICRs, but he does not come across that way to me.
For example, discolouration of the neutral conductor in the meter due to overheating is a serious matter and should be reported to the supplier or DNO without delay.
Consumer unit IP rating of IP4X (not IP4X) has nothing to do with water ingress, but rather penetration by a solid object 1mm in diameter.
Main protective bonding conductors should be connected at the point of entry to the building, and where practicable, within 600mm of the meter, not "a foot".
"Cross bonding" is not and never has been a term used in the regs.
They may seem like small discrepancies, but for a RUclips company, showing off your work to all the world, a little more accuracy please.
It's not that deep bro
You have to be textbook correct when teaching, although very impressive to a young lad, an old fart like me can see the flaws in this video and it’s a shame to see John portrayed as an electrical boffin when actually giving half assed information can be very confusing to a young student.
Ip4x or Ipxxd ! And you really do need to be careful of trusting the voltstick in confirming 230v they will light up with a fairly low induced voltage😁
How is a false positive dangerous then ?
@@Marco-mg9tv obviously it isn't however worth confirming IMO especially seeing as the installation is a bit of a state. Btw I wasn't trying to be an arse just informative, you do you brother 👍