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when does this giveaway end? also, if we enter the giveaway, is there a way to choose which one we'd want? So if you entered and wanted the 450ss, would there be a way to clarify that, or if you happened to win, would it just be random which one you win?
I know that small Bikes are called beginner bikes. But old guys like me who mostly use their motorcycles for around town like them as well. They are cheap on gas, cheap on insurance, and they are light. They are perfect if you want something a little more than a scooter. They can take you a lot farther than a scooter could as well.😊 Don’t tell the cannonball scooter riders say I said that.
They can also be a ton of fun to rip on. Running my Versys 300 up over 12,000 RPM through multiple gears without doing go-to-jail speeds is great! My last bike was a CB1000R and by the time you shift to 2nd gear, you have to start slowing down unless you're on a track.
OC. Just picked up the 24 model/450ss in black last week. Love it so far, it was nice to change the shift pattern to GP shift without having to spend another $400 to $500 for rear sets to accommodate GP! I did have a lot of play in the throttle but the cable adjustment by the throttle fix that issue. My clutch starts to engage about 20% of being released, other then that I agree with your comments. Bought it to have fun on the track, 65 yrs old & still having fun!
Not at all, 8k OTD here in central Forida. I was seriously looking at the new Aprilla 457 but it was 1k more for the bike/1k more in fees bringing the total 2k more then the 450ss. I don't regret pulling the trigger on the 450ss.
Been riding my 2024 450SR-S for a month and loving it! It's a great beginner/learner bike with plenty of power to learn on. Lightweight, single swing arm, sounds great, nimble, predictable power and fun. Traction Control feature for riding in the wet or loose gravel road is a bonus for beginner riders too. Definitely a fun/fantastic first bike to learn on before upgrading to a 600cc+ bike later down the track. I'm considering an Aprilia RS660 as my 2nd bike, but for now, I'm absolutely loving this 450SR-S.
I'm still waiting for SR-S review, so thank you for your comment about this bike. I've put my eye on it because it looks better, has TC and bigger brake disc on the back wheel. How's it performing on straights and on twisty roads as well?
@@uros2909 Being lightweight, it’s extremely nimble and flickable along twisty roads. On the FWY it has plenty of power to overtake too. I haven’t timed straight line acceleration but from what I can tell and feel, it’s quick enough from the lights to leave traffic behind without too much effort. It’s a great peppy little bike for city commuting, and sounds pretty good with the stock exhaust and that 270 degree crank. I don’t really see a need for a loud obnoxious exhaust. Sounds pretty good in stock form. I wish it had a little more torque, but it’s decent enough for a 450cc bike and can still push you back in your seat under hard acceleration. It’s the perfect beginner bike IMO.
@@uros2909 The bike is really easy to ride and loves cornering. Really sticks to a line and is light enough to chuck it around corners easily. Freeway is no issues! Plenty of overtaking power. Light clutch. Great brakes. Fully adjustable suspension 👍🏼
@@mervyoung5397 That’a what I like to hear! I’ve recently started to save for it, it’s around $6800 with registration in my country, so hopefully I’ll be riding it next summer!
OC: I put around 8K miles on mine in 8 months. had it stolen, and tracked it back down, still no mechanical issues - I agree with the clutch issue but you will absolutely get used to it
I'm 6ft tall. I fit on my 450SS nicely. It's actually the most comfortable bike I've had. CFMOTO does make a more comfortable seat option. I have one on my bike. Genuine CFMOTO upgrade for the CFMOTO 450SS. Padding it thicker and the seat skin is a better material than the standard seat.
re: throttle freeplay. You can adjust that on the throttle cable. My 300Nk also had that issue, and it of course loosens over time. It's not throttle-by-wire, its a cable. So peel back the rubber, and adjust the throttle cable nuts to tighten up the cable slack, you can get the freeplay under control.
You can remove the throttle slack super easily by pulling back the little rubber covers that go over the throttle cables on the handle. Just tighten or loosen them to achieve the feel you want. Mine had the same amount of play you had but now it has none.
Bought this bike in black/red a couple weeks ago as my first ever street bike and I LOVE it! Im having so much fun on it. The dealership i bought mine from actually took out that throttle slack for me before i came back to pick it up becuase i mentioned how much i didnt like that feeling. Feels exactly how i was hoping it would once they adjusted that! Definetly hoping for a phone mount soon though haha.
100% can confirm this bike is great. My 450ss was my 23rd bike and I got it to hit the roads near me. It completely blew me away with how much fun it was. I went and completely decked it out with parts from AliExpress and eBay. Some people won’t agree with that and I understand. However I wanted to keep this bike as Chinese as possible lol. When I bought this bike I also had a few others and that included a Kawasaki ZH2. I sold it a few months later because I was always riding the CFmoto. It’s definitely a great beginner bike but it can be a really fun bike for experienced riders as well🤙🏼
I just recently saw the CFMOTO brand as a beginner motorcyclist, or soon to be anyway. This video really helped me out with if I'd like to check into this bike as an option, and I definitely put it on my list. I also became a member with y'all, Thank you for making these videos man ^^
Beginner just starting out but grabbed a dark grey and black 300ss totally stock for $3500 and only 2k miles I’m super excited to start learning! That 450ss with your gear in the learning to ride video was so CLEAN I’m definitely gonna save up some cash to grab that top and gloves looked so good
@@yasugi0153 with me being a totally new rider I think the 300ss has been a great starting bike it’s really taught me to get comfortable with shifting and braking. That being said I don’t really have to be on the main road where the speed limit is 55-65 that’s the only time where I have to really throttle hard to get up to speed
Aprilia rs457 best entry level. Ride-by-wire allowing for quick shifter and auto blipper (plus no slack in the throttle). More torque. More HP than cf-moto after ECU flash. For a bike you are going to trade up, cf-moto. For a bike you plan on keeping, Aprilia. 💯%
literally debating between the ninja 400 and this bike, kinda leaning towards the cfmoto rn and ive been leaning towards this so this was really informative! thanks!
Get the 400 you get reliability and parts easy to get I just got 450ss yesterday and now I'm kind of regretting I bought it because of it's reliability I really want it to last long
@@stewwey4059 the TFT display navigation seems really convenient for me because my sense of direction is god damn bad and i would get so lost without it. a phone mount isn't as good since it shakes so much that i can't see anything(+ my eyesight is bad, i use glasses)
OC. Thank you soo much for this review. I'm in the market for a bike to get back into riding. I haven't rode in 10+ years so I'm a lil nervous. This bike was introduced to me today at a local dealer and I feel in love immediately. After watching this review I really can't wait to get it now.
@@marcusvalentin5485 it is better than I expected. Funny enough I just bought it today and I’m quite impressed. It sounds phenomenal, like an R7. It handles great, the styling is so eye catching, and the brakes are over performing in a good way. My only knock at the bike is that the engagement of the clutch in 1st gear is quite awkward. But I’ve already been getting used to it, and all the other gear shifts are flawless. I did get a used one for $4,750. I wouldn’t get a new one since the dealership will screw you over big time with the fees. I hope this helps 👍
OC I've been wanting to learn how to ride for so long and I've decided that I really really want this as my first bike, it looks so fun and enjoyable. Getting myself prepared for the msf course in the near future
OC. I love everything about the bike. Asian market already has some aftermarket windscreen options with a more integrated windscreen-fairing look. I vote for the track day and long ride vids too.
I have a quad lock on my 450ss, uses the handle bar mount and got it pretty tight on there. It is centered too with the extension so it almost looks like a fork stem mount
OC: IMO the Ninja 400 is still the King of the beginner bike market. Even with the new Ninja 500("Ninja 450") the Ninja 400 has everything you really need in a beginner sportbike. Which is also why i believe the Z400 is the best beginner naked bike. Plus either Ninja 400 or Z400 will definitely hold their resale value. That said it does seem like CFMoto is aiming for the Ninja 400's crown with the 450SS. But I still feel if you are a beginner rider and you ask someone whose more experienced with riding the Ninja 400 will hands down be the most recommended bike and I don't really see that changing entirely to be the 450SS being the most recommended. CFMoto has done an amazing job shaking off that Chinese motorcycle stigma about build quality and reliability, but their not at the level of Kawasaki just yet.
Its crazy because Google maps does the same thing to me. If I leave it in my pocket I'm never told any directions at all. Quadlock is a must. I don't understand when audio directions went backwards but these apps have definitely regresssed.
The complaints about the clutch sound like what I spent a LOT of money to GET in my manual cars, a clutch that engages or releases REALLY fast RIGHT at the start of the clutch throw and is very short. You get faster, more precise shifts that way in a car. Ideally you have a properly adjusted STOP for the clutch pedal so it blocks the pedal from moving JUST PAST the engagement. That way under spirited driving you never think about the clutch, just STOMP it and it'll always hit perfect.
OC. As much as I love my RC 390. It's been giving me problem after problem after problem and I've been spending in it like crazy. I really wish we had a better presence of CF Moto in India. I'd buy this in a heartbeat!
I think its the best looking small cc bike you can get. I have a zx4-rr, which I think is a better bike, but the 450ss has it beat on looks, easily. If it had two front brake discs and nicer suspension, I'd have it in addition to the 4rr. I think its styled to perfection, given the cost. In fact, its styled ABOVE the cost. Good for CF Moto. I'd love to see the bigger sport bike coming out next year. The OC, Tuesdays on Fox
Chase for the phone mount, you can use a quad lock handlebar mount kit and place it around the gap on either side of the triple tree! It clamps down and with the bar that comes in the kit, it places the phone centered over the triple tree bolt!
☝This. Was looking for a comment saying this to vote it up. :D I've had the quad lock mount on there just like you would a normal handlebar for almost a year now, had zero issues with it.
Chase I'm 5' 10" as well bt only have a 30" inseam, my problem with that machine would be leaning over the tank I would love to see the IBEX version. Adjust the cable to get rid of the free play, you're paying attention to the maintenance schedule.
i tested this bike and found the position very comfortable and i am 6.0 but i do believe if you are above 6.0 it will be a bit of a problem for longer rides
Cfmoto is such an underrated company. I live in Australia, and have just bought a 800nk Advance. It's just a Duke 790 with all the bells and whistles, for half the price.
If I am not mistaken, you should be able to put your navigation on that fancy tft dashboard, so there is no need to mount your phone on the handlebars. But I am not sure how that works yet :D I am planing to get this bike, I heard only great reviews so far :)
@@chaseontwowheels I'll even take the 300. I’m putting in my raffles friday, chase I need this thing man. i've been watching your reviews for a while and I’m ready to get on 2 wheels man. come through for me.
I hate how whenever people talk about the 400cc class they always preface everything with, "For an entry level bike..." or "For a beginner bike..." To me this seems very backhanded. It's like telling a woman, "For a 40-year-old mom, you look really good!" I get that it's still a complement but it kind of implies that they only look good in a certain context. I've been riding on and off for almost 10 years, gone through a shit load of bikes, and now that I'm an experienced rider I'm gravitating towards this lightweight small cc class. I would like to change the narrative that these bikes are especially great for experienced riders that have already experimented with all sizes and speeds of bikes. anyway, I have an inflated ego and low self-esteem :D
Oc. This video is awesome, I am a 17 year old really looking into riding and getting into the community as I head off to college in a few months and would love to take a bike into the "city" I am heading to. I really am liking this bike as it reminds me a lot of the ninja 400 but with a lot more features on it which I really like. Anyway, thanks for the awesome video and your feedback on the bike.
I think cf moto might start selling things like there tf to other brand since they have done hand down such a good job with it and people seem to love it
Want this because in a year I'll be a hour and half from work so I'm gonna need it for highway commute wanted the NK or the Mt 03 but worried about the wind passing me
This bike won't make sense where iam from because of our tiered license system. At 450cc, I'll need to get the full class 2 unlimited licence. My current intermediate class 2A licence already goes up to 400cc. It's such a good looking bike too.
Track day this vs ninja 400 back to back experience pleeaaase, wondering if I should 'upgrade' to the new 450 sr-s or to be known in America I guess the ss-s
I'm so lost on what to do next. Just got back into riding at 42 and bought a cheap 04 heritage softail cruiser and made into a cholo vicla build. Here's the ISSUE, I am 6'4 and I need a new bike. I feel like everyone in my age group just gets a Road Glide Bagger and cruises around. Am I too old to get something like a sport bike or an MT-10 nake bike? wtf do I do here. I don't ride for multi day trips, I'm not a race track rider, I don't like dirt bike trail riding but I do know the bike I have now was great to start back on but it is the most uncomfortable thing ever (probably due to my build changes but still), but I don't think I can lean over on a bike for hours on end on something like an R1 or whatever for example. What does a 40s tall rider get in this situation?
Hi i have a question about the bike, im getting mine next week, with th 5 year cfmoto warranty, but in the manual it says that ANY mods to the bike void the warranty, including mods to the exhaust. Will that mean if i put on a slip on my warranty is gone? Because if so i would rather keep it stock.
No apparently they are talking removing emission controls. But putting a complete exhaust and slip on is okay....I was told they won't warranty exhaust.
I would like to see a duration video on comfort. Granted i have the cbr500r, so this would be on par im guessing? How about a conparison between the cbr500r, and this bike? They should be pretty close....unless you say different? Besides the weight
OC. Your timing is perfect, as I have one on hold at the dealership right now. Was deciding between it and a ninja 400/500. Also struggling between a gsx8s vs 8r and that keeps trying to overlap my decision!
So in Europe there's a new version of this coming called the sr-s that's the same power but with tc and a single sided swing arm and aprrently some other cool tech so will be interested to see if it's just as good
I am planning on buying my 1st bike. Going for a MT07. My only concern is that I am 6.2 ft and 230 pounds. is that an issue? Should I be looking at a different bike? Also would be cool if you made a video on what gear you recommend for new riders. Love the content have learnt so much watching ur videos!
I can def make a video like that. You looking for full head to toe gear recommendation? Also, that MT07 is a solid choice for a build like that. Plenty of power and you shouldn't be cramped up.
@@chaseontwowheels yep, full gear. Live in new zealand and weather is very unpredictable here. Thats awesome about the MT07 i was able to sit on one and felt comfortable and yeah I do hear it was plenty of torque. Cant wait to start learning hehe.
But wouldnt the clutch be in a good spot since it is pretty soft? So it doesnt give ur fingers and hand fatigue. Never tried a 400cc bike for an hour, but using lower CC bikes, their clutches are kinda hard and my hand fatigues after long rides. What's your take on it?
I like the 450ss but it's taboo for me personally. I couldn't buy one. To the point I'd rather spend the money on a zx4rr. I currently have a Rebel 500 from last year. Had liter bikes before, but felt useless on them. Looking for another style of bike this year as well. I have a Cruiser and Boulevard Thumper already. I want a sport and an adv next to round out the collection.
@@hihellothere9569 yes, taboo as in disapprove of the company as a whole. Looks great, sounds great, and seem like on paper is great, but I can't get behind the company for personal reasons. No issue with others buying it, but I wouldn't ever do so myself.
I'm interested in CF MOTO 450 MT (Ibex), today i have a FJR 1300, and love the power, but it's 292 KG!! I think the 450 MT nails a sweetspot between weight and power... But will i think it's enough? Almost 100 hp less than i have today. I know i have to have realistic expectations... Will the 450MT handle some 2up riding from time to time? I have been riding 2up on a 650cc in the past... but a 450??? What do you think?
@Chaseontwowheels Great overview on 450SS!! Keep it up! Im looking for my first bike and im between 450ss and 300ss. Should I consider 300ss at all or go directly for 450ss? Thanks in advance!
This is a good motorcycle for a person like me that is just getting into motorcycle world or just go for something little small like ktm rc 390 or fc 300ss ?
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when does this giveaway end? also, if we enter the giveaway, is there a way to choose which one we'd want? So if you entered and wanted the 450ss, would there be a way to clarify that, or if you happened to win, would it just be random which one you win?
I know that small Bikes are called beginner bikes. But old guys like me who mostly use their motorcycles for around town like them as well. They are cheap on gas, cheap on insurance, and they are light. They are perfect if you want something a little more than a scooter. They can take you a lot farther than a scooter could as well.😊 Don’t tell the cannonball scooter riders say I said that.
I'm 75, know what you mean..
I Road raced for 30 years on 600cc suzuki...
They can also be a ton of fun to rip on. Running my Versys 300 up over 12,000 RPM through multiple gears without doing go-to-jail speeds is great! My last bike was a CB1000R and by the time you shift to 2nd gear, you have to start slowing down unless you're on a track.
I get what you saying but I wouldn’t compare this to a scooter lol
OC. Just picked up the 24 model/450ss in black last week. Love it so far, it was nice to change the shift pattern to GP shift without having to spend another $400 to $500 for rear sets to accommodate GP! I did have a lot of play in the throttle but the cable adjustment by the throttle fix that issue. My clutch starts to engage about 20% of being released, other then that I agree with your comments. Bought it to have fun on the track, 65 yrs old & still having fun!
mind me asking you what you got it for? Local dealer asked $7855 OTD here in Texas. Thought that seemed high
Over 2k in fees? Thats crazy@@chancer194
Not at all, 8k OTD here in central Forida. I was seriously looking at the new Aprilla 457 but it was 1k more for the bike/1k more in fees bringing the total 2k more then the 450ss. I don't regret pulling the trigger on the 450ss.
@@richardm7026I got a $7150 OTD in sanford
Just brought a 2024 450ss yesterday waiting on delivery
I'm 6' 210# I'm very comfortable and go for 4 hours without stopping..
The seat is fine..
Really? Cause i'm 6'+ and around the same weight, and i wasn't sure on how comfy i would find myself on this
@derhasso6123 so far so good, but I'm 76 and maybe numb..
I Don't like cushy..
Retired from road racing 30 years..
Been riding my 2024 450SR-S for a month and loving it! It's a great beginner/learner bike with plenty of power to learn on. Lightweight, single swing arm, sounds great, nimble, predictable power and fun. Traction Control feature for riding in the wet or loose gravel road is a bonus for beginner riders too. Definitely a fun/fantastic first bike to learn on before upgrading to a 600cc+ bike later down the track. I'm considering an Aprilia RS660 as my 2nd bike, but for now, I'm absolutely loving this 450SR-S.
I'm still waiting for SR-S review, so thank you for your comment about this bike. I've put my eye on it because it looks better, has TC and bigger brake disc on the back wheel. How's it performing on straights and on twisty roads as well?
@@uros2909 Being lightweight, it’s extremely nimble and flickable along twisty roads. On the FWY it has plenty of power to overtake too. I haven’t timed straight line acceleration but from what I can tell and feel, it’s quick enough from the lights to leave traffic behind without too much effort. It’s a great peppy little bike for city commuting, and sounds pretty good with the stock exhaust and that 270 degree crank. I don’t really see a need for a loud obnoxious exhaust. Sounds pretty good in stock form. I wish it had a little more torque, but it’s decent enough for a 450cc bike and can still push you back in your seat under hard acceleration. It’s the perfect beginner bike IMO.
@@mervyoung5397 Thank you man, I appreciate it!
@@uros2909 The bike is really easy to ride and loves cornering. Really sticks to a line and is light enough to chuck it around corners easily. Freeway is no issues! Plenty of overtaking power. Light clutch. Great brakes. Fully adjustable suspension 👍🏼
@@mervyoung5397 That’a what I like to hear! I’ve recently started to save for it, it’s around $6800 with registration in my country, so hopefully I’ll be riding it next summer!
OC: I put around 8K miles on mine in 8 months. had it stolen, and tracked it back down, still no mechanical issues - I agree with the clutch issue but you will absolutely get used to it
I'm 6ft tall. I fit on my 450SS nicely. It's actually the most comfortable bike I've had. CFMOTO does make a more comfortable seat option. I have one on my bike. Genuine CFMOTO upgrade for the CFMOTO 450SS. Padding it thicker and the seat skin is a better material than the standard seat.
I'm yet to sit on the bike but I'm 6ft1 so this is good news to hear 😊
6’2 looking at one of these, have you done any long distance trips (4-8 hours)?
re: throttle freeplay. You can adjust that on the throttle cable. My 300Nk also had that issue, and it of course loosens over time. It's not throttle-by-wire, its a cable. So peel back the rubber, and adjust the throttle cable nuts to tighten up the cable slack, you can get the freeplay under control.
You should do a RUclips video on that. 👌🏾
they nailed the styling, so much better than the established manufacturers. REAL HEADLIGHTS!
OC: CFMoto honestly have made one of the greatest looking “beginner bikes”, super rad bike and can’t wait for someone to win it!
You can remove the throttle slack super easily by pulling back the little rubber covers that go over the throttle cables on the handle. Just tighten or loosen them to achieve the feel you want. Mine had the same amount of play you had but now it has none.
Bought this bike in black/red a couple weeks ago as my first ever street bike and I LOVE it! Im having so much fun on it. The dealership i bought mine from actually took out that throttle slack for me before i came back to pick it up becuase i mentioned how much i didnt like that feeling. Feels exactly how i was hoping it would once they adjusted that! Definetly hoping for a phone mount soon though haha.
100% can confirm this bike is great. My 450ss was my 23rd bike and I got it to hit the roads near me. It completely blew me away with how much fun it was. I went and completely decked it out with parts from AliExpress and eBay. Some people won’t agree with that and I understand. However I wanted to keep this bike as Chinese as possible lol. When I bought this bike I also had a few others and that included a Kawasaki ZH2. I sold it a few months later because I was always riding the CFmoto. It’s definitely a great beginner bike but it can be a really fun bike for experienced riders as well🤙🏼
Thought I was completely decided on buying a new R3 but now this is making me question that. Super undecided between the two!
The R3 has 38HP THIS HAS 50HP.....depends if want to take it on Hwy. You max out about 99mph on R3, and about 120-130mph based on weight on 450SS
@@JessicaSimonson1976 google claims 112 but I was told by the owner of the dealership today that a customer got his to 130.
I just recently saw the CFMOTO brand as a beginner motorcyclist, or soon to be anyway. This video really helped me out with if I'd like to check into this bike as an option, and I definitely put it on my list. I also became a member with y'all, Thank you for making these videos man ^^
Beginner just starting out but grabbed a dark grey and black 300ss totally stock for $3500 and only 2k miles I’m super excited to start learning! That 450ss with your gear in the learning to ride video was so CLEAN I’m definitely gonna save up some cash to grab that top and gloves looked so good
how do you feel with it? worth the investment or shouldve saved for 450
@@yasugi0153 with me being a totally new rider I think the 300ss has been a great starting bike it’s really taught me to get comfortable with shifting and braking. That being said I don’t really have to be on the main road where the speed limit is 55-65 that’s the only time where I have to really throttle hard to get up to speed
Aprilia rs457 best entry level. Ride-by-wire allowing for quick shifter and auto blipper (plus no slack in the throttle). More torque. More HP than cf-moto after ECU flash. For a bike you are going to trade up, cf-moto. For a bike you plan on keeping, Aprilia. 💯%
literally debating between the ninja 400 and this bike, kinda leaning towards the cfmoto rn and ive been leaning towards this so this was really informative! thanks!
Get the 400 you get reliability and parts easy to get I just got 450ss yesterday and now I'm kind of regretting I bought it because of it's reliability I really want it to last long
@@stewwey4059how do you regret buying it because of the reliability if you haven't even had any problems yet?
@@mr-ama4572 that's why I regret it because it's unknown reliability
@@mr-ama4572 I just found out that parts are really hard to find while Kawasaki you can buy it directly from them
@@stewwey4059 the TFT display navigation seems really convenient for me because my sense of direction is god damn bad and i would get so lost without it. a phone mount isn't as good since it shakes so much that i can't see anything(+ my eyesight is bad, i use glasses)
Sat on one last week. So much more comfortable than my rc51. Thinking of getting this to tool around, and also let my sons learn to ride
OC. Thank you soo much for this review. I'm in the market for a bike to get back into riding. I haven't rode in 10+ years so I'm a lil nervous. This bike was introduced to me today at a local dealer and I feel in love immediately. After watching this review I really can't wait to get it now.
Did you get it? If so, how had the journey been so far? I’m getting a 2024 model this week.
@@wildlifeshorts3475Is it as you expected?
@@marcusvalentin5485 it is better than I expected. Funny enough I just bought it today and I’m quite impressed. It sounds phenomenal, like an R7. It handles great, the styling is so eye catching, and the brakes are over performing in a good way. My only knock at the bike is that the engagement of the clutch in 1st gear is quite awkward. But I’ve already been getting used to it, and all the other gear shifts are flawless. I did get a used one for $4,750. I wouldn’t get a new one since the dealership will screw you over big time with the fees. I hope this helps 👍
can't wait for cfmoto to release the ibex450.
by the way, 14:13 sounds amazing
OC I've been wanting to learn how to ride for so long and I've decided that I really really want this as my first bike, it looks so fun and enjoyable. Getting myself prepared for the msf course in the near future
OC. I love everything about the bike. Asian market already has some aftermarket windscreen options with a more integrated windscreen-fairing look. I vote for the track day and long ride vids too.
I have a quad lock on my 450ss, uses the handle bar mount and got it pretty tight on there. It is centered too with the extension so it almost looks like a fork stem mount
OC : aliexpress will b your best friend for mods on the motorcycle until the rest of the market catches up
I noticed this too. Looks like you can even can Shad-compatible side and top racks from there to make this a baby sport tourer
OC: IMO the Ninja 400 is still the King of the beginner bike market. Even with the new Ninja 500("Ninja 450") the Ninja 400 has everything you really need in a beginner sportbike. Which is also why i believe the Z400 is the best beginner naked bike. Plus either Ninja 400 or Z400 will definitely hold their resale value. That said it does seem like CFMoto is aiming for the Ninja 400's crown with the 450SS. But I still feel if you are a beginner rider and you ask someone whose more experienced with riding the Ninja 400 will hands down be the most recommended bike and I don't really see that changing entirely to be the 450SS being the most recommended. CFMoto has done an amazing job shaking off that Chinese motorcycle stigma about build quality and reliability, but their not at the level of Kawasaki just yet.
No but partnered with KTM, Yamaha, and Kawasaki.
Can’t wait for a 800 SS / SRS
Imagine that sound if this one stock is already i think the nicest sound for a 450cc?
675sr to be released this year we hope!
The seat has 3 options, 785, 795 and 815 mm. I tried the 815 one being a taller rider and it's perfect.
You can tighten the throttle cable and remove the slack. Mine has none after adjustment.
Love the review!! Your videos are just so perfect.
I would love to see a 6 hour long ride on this bike before you let it go :)
Its crazy because Google maps does the same thing to me. If I leave it in my pocket I'm never told any directions at all. Quadlock is a must. I don't understand when audio directions went backwards but these apps have definitely regresssed.
The complaints about the clutch sound like what I spent a LOT of money to GET in my manual cars, a clutch that engages or releases REALLY fast RIGHT at the start of the clutch throw and is very short. You get faster, more precise shifts that way in a car. Ideally you have a properly adjusted STOP for the clutch pedal so it blocks the pedal from moving JUST PAST the engagement. That way under spirited driving you never think about the clutch, just STOMP it and it'll always hit perfect.
OC: CF MOTO needs to make a 450 version of the Papio SS. That bike tpuld get me out of the small bores for sure
OC. As much as I love my RC 390. It's been giving me problem after problem after problem and I've been spending in it like crazy. I really wish we had a better presence of CF Moto in India. I'd buy this in a heartbeat!
I think its the best looking small cc bike you can get. I have a zx4-rr, which I think is a better bike, but the 450ss has it beat on looks, easily. If it had two front brake discs and nicer suspension, I'd have it in addition to the 4rr. I think its styled to perfection, given the cost. In fact, its styled ABOVE the cost. Good for CF Moto. I'd love to see the bigger sport bike coming out next year. The OC, Tuesdays on Fox
Chase for the phone mount, you can use a quad lock handlebar mount kit and place it around the gap on either side of the triple tree!
It clamps down and with the bar that comes in the kit, it places the phone centered over the triple tree bolt!
☝This. Was looking for a comment saying this to vote it up. :D I've had the quad lock mount on there just like you would a normal handlebar for almost a year now, had zero issues with it.
Or the brake perch mount. The one that bolts not to the reservoir, but to the handlebar bolts
OC might be my first road bike. Dirtbike person for 20 years now (33) but damn, this looks fun as hell
"I like to come into the throttle really smooth" 👀
im 6 foot 1 and 160lbs and i fit perfectly
Chase I'm 5' 10" as well bt only have a 30" inseam, my problem with that machine would be leaning over the tank I would love to see the IBEX version. Adjust the cable to get rid of the free play, you're paying attention to the maintenance schedule.
OC: Saw a video where a guy must have removed the cap on the triple tree to use his quadlock.
Picking my CFMoto 450SR 2023 up hopefully this week!
I test rode a 22 ninja 650 today and a 24 450ss and while a 650 is quicker in a straight line the 450 beat its but in over all feel!
i tested this bike and found the position very comfortable and i am 6.0 but i do believe if you are above 6.0 it will be a bit of a problem for longer rides
Cfmoto is such an underrated company. I live in Australia, and have just bought a 800nk Advance. It's just a Duke 790 with all the bells and whistles, for half the price.
And likely 2x worse resale
6 hour ride would be great!
the SRS version has fully adjustable front and you can option a taller seat from factory.
If I am not mistaken, you should be able to put your navigation on that fancy tft dashboard, so there is no need to mount your phone on the handlebars. But I am not sure how that works yet :D I am planing to get this bike, I heard only great reviews so far :)
chase I need this, like bad. like I’m so serious not kidding I really do need this bike.
Lucky you. You can win it for $5 bucks. haha
@@chaseontwowheels I'll even take the 300. I’m putting in my raffles friday, chase I need this thing man. i've been watching your reviews for a while and I’m ready to get on 2 wheels man. come through for me.
It is an awesome bike. I have had it since it came out. 4k miles on it and no problems. It's a blast.
OC. I can't wait to ride the 2023 CF Moto this summer
You should see the 450srs even more lovely with the single sided swing arm!.
IBEX450 is being sold at 4500usd in China started from yesterday, hope it get to the states soon
I hate how whenever people talk about the 400cc class they always preface everything with, "For an entry level bike..." or "For a beginner bike..." To me this seems very backhanded. It's like telling a woman, "For a 40-year-old mom, you look really good!" I get that it's still a complement but it kind of implies that they only look good in a certain context.
I've been riding on and off for almost 10 years, gone through a shit load of bikes, and now that I'm an experienced rider I'm gravitating towards this lightweight small cc class.
I would like to change the narrative that these bikes are especially great for experienced riders that have already experimented with all sizes and speeds of bikes.
anyway, I have an inflated ego and low self-esteem :D
If you had to compare it to the new ninja 500 which one would come out on top for more power delivery or better in general performance?
The Ninja 500 is more “mad” at High rpm, but CFMoto pulls all the time.
Ninja 500 feels a bit slower (weight), and it’s Sound is really bad stock
Oc. This video is awesome, I am a 17 year old really looking into riding and getting into the community as I head off to college in a few months and would love to take a bike into the "city" I am heading to. I really am liking this bike as it reminds me a lot of the ninja 400 but with a lot more features on it which I really like. Anyway, thanks for the awesome video and your feedback on the bike.
I’m 5’11.5 so 6ft lol but my legs don’t really fit on the 300ss but for me I tried a 450 and it’s perfect
GPR Deeptone with the baffle out would sound amazing
I think cf moto might start selling things like there tf to other brand since they have done hand down such a good job with it and people seem to love it
Would you ever do a bike tier list? Maybe for each level of riding
Want this because in a year I'll be a hour and half from work so I'm gonna need it for highway commute wanted the NK or the Mt 03 but worried about the wind passing me
There's also the 450 CL-C.
This bike won't make sense where iam from because of our tiered license system. At 450cc, I'll need to get the full class 2 unlimited licence. My current intermediate class 2A licence already goes up to 400cc.
It's such a good looking bike too.
Track day this vs ninja 400 back to back experience pleeaaase, wondering if I should 'upgrade' to the new 450 sr-s or to be known in America I guess the ss-s
Track day use Ninja
yeah i would like for sure a video of a long ride using the 450ss
It definitely does look and sound good
I'm so lost on what to do next. Just got back into riding at 42 and bought a cheap 04 heritage softail cruiser and made into a cholo vicla build. Here's the ISSUE, I am 6'4 and I need a new bike. I feel like everyone in my age group just gets a Road Glide Bagger and cruises around. Am I too old to get something like a sport bike or an MT-10 nake bike? wtf do I do here. I don't ride for multi day trips, I'm not a race track rider, I don't like dirt bike trail riding but I do know the bike I have now was great to start back on but it is the most uncomfortable thing ever (probably due to my build changes but still), but I don't think I can lean over on a bike for hours on end on something like an R1 or whatever for example.
What does a 40s tall rider get in this situation?
Maybe try looking into these bikes:
Kawasaki Versys 650
Kawasaki Versys 1000
Kawasaki Concours 14
Suzuki V-Strom 650
Suzuki V-Strom 800
Suzuki V-Strom 1050
Yamaha Super Teneré
Yamaha FJR1300
CfMoto Adventura
CfMoto IBex 800T
Hopefully this helps!
So when are we getting a review on the new 675 SS!?!
Real keen to try one of these out. I might have to trade my R3, if the comp isn't open for Australians 😅
(OC)
There is an optional higher seat available for these!!
I do believe that cfmoto have extra seat swab options from dealers +/- 10mm
The sr-s does have adjustable suspension
I'm saving up for this bike 🚲 right now can't wait to ride it one of these days
You should review the ninja 500 to see how it compare,
Hi i have a question about the bike, im getting mine next week, with th 5 year cfmoto warranty, but in the manual it says that ANY mods to the bike void the warranty, including mods to the exhaust. Will that mean if i put on a slip on my warranty is gone? Because if so i would rather keep it stock.
if anything was to go wrong just remove it and put stock back in :) easy peasy
No apparently they are talking removing emission controls. But putting a complete exhaust and slip on is okay....I was told they won't warranty exhaust.
Thing sounds like a nascar even with just a slip on exhaust
I have this bike with quad lock i put it on my Steering damper :)
Damn I wish Triumph would do a TFT that good on the Street Triple. 😔
I would like to see a duration video on comfort. Granted i have the cbr500r, so this would be on par im guessing? How about a conparison between the cbr500r, and this bike? They should be pretty close....unless you say different? Besides the weight
OC. Love it!
OC. Your timing is perfect, as I have one on hold at the dealership right now. Was deciding between it and a ninja 400/500. Also struggling between a gsx8s vs 8r and that keeps trying to overlap my decision!
So in Europe there's a new version of this coming called the sr-s that's the same power but with tc and a single sided swing arm and aprrently some other cool tech so will be interested to see if it's just as good
Hey Chase, out of curiosity, which would you prefer. The ktm rc 390 or the cfmotto 450
Use the ixil exhaust or the vanhoof the best in my opinion
I am planning on buying my 1st bike. Going for a MT07. My only concern is that I am 6.2 ft and 230 pounds. is that an issue? Should I be looking at a different bike?
Also would be cool if you made a video on what gear you recommend for new riders.
Love the content have learnt so much watching ur videos!
I can def make a video like that. You looking for full head to toe gear recommendation? Also, that MT07 is a solid choice for a build like that. Plenty of power and you shouldn't be cramped up.
@@chaseontwowheels yep, full gear.
Live in new zealand and weather is very unpredictable here.
Thats awesome about the MT07 i was able to sit on one and felt comfortable and yeah I do hear it was plenty of torque.
Cant wait to start learning hehe.
People laugh when I get on my 450ss. The suspension doesn't move. 5 ft 7 140 pounds.
Can you explain? Do you mean this is a good quality for suspension or bad?
I use the tank bag phone mount it is sweet
Makes me wonder if kawasakis bump up to 450cc on the ninja is a reaction to sales of this one
But wouldnt the clutch be in a good spot since it is pretty soft? So it doesnt give ur fingers and hand fatigue. Never tried a 400cc bike for an hour, but using lower CC bikes, their clutches are kinda hard and my hand fatigues after long rides. What's your take on it?
I like the 450ss but it's taboo for me personally. I couldn't buy one. To the point I'd rather spend the money on a zx4rr. I currently have a Rebel 500 from last year. Had liter bikes before, but felt useless on them. Looking for another style of bike this year as well. I have a Cruiser and Boulevard Thumper already. I want a sport and an adv next to round out the collection.
Taboo?
@@hihellothere9569 yes, taboo as in disapprove of the company as a whole. Looks great, sounds great, and seem like on paper is great, but I can't get behind the company for personal reasons. No issue with others buying it, but I wouldn't ever do so myself.
I'm interested in CF MOTO 450 MT (Ibex), today i have a FJR 1300, and love the power, but it's 292 KG!! I think the 450 MT nails a sweetspot between weight and power... But will i think it's enough? Almost 100 hp less than i have today. I know i have to have realistic expectations... Will the 450MT handle some 2up riding from time to time? I have been riding 2up on a 650cc in the past... but a 450??? What do you think?
Seems to check all the boxes. so how are the vibes? Buzzy?
Hope They Drop A Supermoto-esque Bike
can someone tell we how high the consumption is. I wanna buy one
fun bike and all but imo i think ur better off with a kawasaki ninja 450 for the same price new
8 months then I get my bike and the moto 450 ss is what I want 😢
OC. I’ve never wanted a small bike so bad lol 😂
@Chaseontwowheels Great overview on 450SS!! Keep it up! Im looking for my first bike and im between 450ss and 300ss. Should I consider 300ss at all or go directly for 450ss? Thanks in advance!
That's a great question and we are working on a comparison video which will probably help you out a ton.
@@chaseontwowheels awesome!! Looking forward to it!
This is a good motorcycle for a person like me that is just getting into motorcycle world or just go for something little small like ktm rc 390 or fc 300ss ?
Can't wait for 500ss and 675ss
How about the navigation built into the bike by using the app?
Yeah I’ve heard so many mixed reviews about how the navigation works
@JampaniaMusic I've had my 450ss for only a week, and the navigation did freeze up the first time trying which was unfortunately.
I haven't gotten that setup yet so I'm not sure.
@chaseontwowheels CS moto ride on the app store.
The navigation works alright if you can ride highways but it has no option to change or modify the route